The reason that won't happen is then vote selling could really happen. I give you $20 to vote for bob, you go do so and give me your number so I can verify it.
I would rather admins admit when they are out of their area and go for a workable outside solution rather then just trying to suck it up and force an incomplete solution that probably does not meet the needs and is often not properly maintained.
How many of the corporate spam zombies you see out there do you think are due to that mentality?
He said that he was unaware he was getting laid off, my guess is they probably escorted him out of the building too and when you are getting laid off, that update you kicked off may not be the most pressing issue on his mind.
Also it is an oracle server, it may have just crashed randomly since it was a day that ended in 'y' anyway.
Other then the fact you can't prove a negative. And the series of investigations from both the US and the UN that found no traces of WMD. (Ok granted there were still some chemical agents around, but they had all been disclosed and they were all from decades earlier, and were not considered WMD anyway).
Well, had the US intelligence community known that there was no active WMD program, we would not have invaded. This was never about 'what Iraqis do to each other'. It started as a response to a dictator that could not assure us he wasn't in possession of certain weapons . He was given ample opportunity to prove to us he didn't have them. We offered to provide and pay the people to gather that proof. He refused. What other option did we have, given that he could have potentially sold these weapons or smuggled them to the same type of people who attacked us in 2001? The fact that he didn't have any is tragic, yes, but those deaths from the resulting military action are Saddam's fault, not ours.
What do you mean, 'deal with these nutjobs'? Who do you think is causing all this shit in Iraq? its the same foreign fighters, recruiting and stirring up local populations. Iraq has become a calling card for foreign jihadis. If we are going to 'deal with these nutjobs', we are going to find them in Iraq. Pulling out would be avoiding dealing with them.
Yes there are outside influences from terror organizations. However much of the violence are from rival internal factions, many of whom are trying to get the occupiers (us) out of their country.
All the shit in Iraq is because we went in, and systematically dismantled every existing social structure they had in place to keep order. You want to talk about creating a vacuum, we did it alright. Pulling out entirely would create another one of course, however us staying there and not working to withdraw is just sitting poking a hornet's nest. As long as we are there it is not going to stabilize, and is just going to continue to escalate the problem.
The other issue is the fact we are not rebuilding, we are not creating new infrastructure, sure we are paying people to do it, but with no accountability or oversight we all see how much they are doing. The entire situation can easily be described using the word cluster, but us being there just increases the number of terrorists and people around the world who hate the US.
The thing is the primary interest to the EFF here is not the ballot measure it is the lack of the audit trail in it. Granted the initiative might be of interest to some slashdot posters, but to the EFF it does not matter.
Right, but going back to the wikipedia entry (and it does quote the source): "The study found that, during 2003-2004, at any given time, 26.8% of women aged 14 to 59 were infected with at least one type of HPV (including those that are harmless). This was higher than previous estimates. Of the four types prevented by the Gardasil vaccine, however, only 3.4% were infected, which was lower than previous estimates. Of the high-risk types that cause cancer, 15.2% were infected.[6]
Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]"
which was really a surprise to me, I had been thinking the 50% figure was across the entire HPV spectrum.
Unless there is something I have not seen, I think you mean cervical cancer which is caused by HPV. However there are over 100 types of hpv, many of which are transmitted by skin contact or even just things in the environment that can make it manifest on it's own. I was going to make a point about the 50% having any type of hpv, but nope you are right it is the sexually transmitted kind that over 50% of women will have some point in their life, interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hpv#Genital_HPV_Preva lence_in_the_United_States
When you get:
B) Scientist 'Y' accidentally discovers 'free energy', and cannot disprove that it is actually 'free'
They submit it to a peer reviewed journal so it can be re-created by independent scientists then it will be creditable.
There is a reason that someone coming out of left field with something like this gets skeptics, it's because it has not been proven yet by the scientific method. Once it can be duplicated and examined by someone who is not seeing VC money over the item, thats when it will get credibility.
Wow that was fun, it stripped out all of my carriage returns. Teach me to not preview first, here it is again with proper returns:
Stupid question here, were they not god's commandments, or is this part of the father/son/ghost thing?
How did porn affect your life, honestly? Most folks I know that have a porn addiction, either are just using personal sexual gratification as another alternative to get the pleasure center of the brain met, it just happened to be the addiction they found. And in most cases either they would have had a similar problem without easy access to porn or would have found another addiction. The other thing I wonder every time I hear about porn addicts, is it the porn itself or is it seeing something taboo? Many of the people I have talked to that have had porn addictions come from hard lining religious or social backgrounds that very much vilify it, and just like drugs kids get into it as an act of rebellion, and because they do not understand the truth about what they are seeing and experiencing they do not know how to handle or control it.
Also with the hard core porn out there, that is not what kids need to be seeing out of the gate. Being able to sit down with a child and talk about the human body and expressions of physical love with images to help explain it can be wonderful for a child to get reality and understand what things mean. I meet so many teens that just don't understand about interpersonal affection and what it can mean. Our society taboos sex and due to sensationalist nature of our media loves to portray it in the most extreme situations and for the most impact. I don't think you need to give your 4 year old a login to some hard-core adult site, but sit down your 8 or 9 year old and give them the basics of sex, and not just the technical "here is what it is and what it is for" but also the beauty and connection of what it can mean. You can get into the 'why do people have fetishes' and 'what is a donkey punch' when the kids are older and ready to handle it.
Honestly I have yet to meet someone who was exposed to sex at an early age, in a responsible manner, that did not turn out at least 'normal' [if not really well adjusted] in regards to sex, their sexual identity and security. If we go back to the second commandment, it would be more like not exposing your neighbor (if they did not want to be exposed) to your sexual acts or porn. You stopping viewing porn does not affect your neighbor, also taking your idea further it really means you should stop driving because you could potentially hit and kill someone which is far worse. Also you should never smoke because the second hand smoke can affect the health of those around you, and really you should make sure everything you do is green or at least carbon neutral since environmental impact affects everyone.
Serious question on your porn addiction, if you had been shown pictures of naked women when you were starting to get to that age and explained about love and sexual intimacy, would viewing porn later had the same impact on you? Also if you had been in a social environment where you could have discussed it, and talked openly about how you were feeling and that you felt you might have a problem, do you think it would have had less of an impact on your life?
Stupid question here, were they not god's commandments, or is this part of the father/son/ghost thing?
How did porn affect your life, honestly? Most folks I know that have a porn addiction, either are just using personal sexual gratification as another alternative to get the pleasure center of the brain met, it just happened to be the addiction they found. And in most cases either they would have had a similar problem without easy access to porn or would have found another addiction.
The other thing I wonder every time I hear about porn addicts, is it the porn itself or is it seeing something taboo? Many of the people I have talked to that have had porn addictions come from hard lining religious or social backgrounds that very much vilify it, and just like drugs kids get into it as an act of rebellion, and because they do not understand the truth about what they are seeing and experiencing they do not know how to handle or control it.
Also with the hard core porn out there, that is not what kids need to be seeing out of the gate. Being able to sit down with a child and talk about the human body and expressions of physical love with images to help explain it can be wonderful for a child to get reality and understand what things mean. I meet so many teens that just don't understand about interpersonal affection and what it can mean. Our society taboos sex and due to sensationalist nature of our media loves to portray it in the most extreme situations and for the most impact.
I don't think you need to give your 4 year old a login to some hard-core adult site, but sit down your 8 or 9 year old and give them the basics of sex, and not just the technical "here is what it is and what it is for" but also the beauty and connection of what it can mean. You can get into the 'why do people have fetishes' and 'what is a donkey punch' when the kids are older and ready to handle it. But honestly I have yet to meet someone who was exposed to sex at an early age, in a responsible manner, that did not turn out at least 'normal' [if not really well adjusted] in regards to sex, their sexual identity and security.
If we go back to the second commandment, it would be more like not exposing your neighbor (if they did not want to be exposed) to your sexual acts or porn. You stopping viewing porn does not affect your neighbor, also taking your idea further it really means you should stop driving because you could potentially hit and kill someone which is far worse. Also you should never smoke because the second hand smoke can affect the health of those around you, and really you should make sure everything you do is green or at least carbon neutral since environmental impact affects everyone.
Serious question on your porn addiction, if you had been shown pictures of naked women when you were starting to get to that age and explained about love and sexual intimacy, would viewing porn later had the same impact on you? Also if you had been in a social environment where you could have discussed it, and talked openly about how you were feeling and that you felt you might have a problem, do you think it would have had less of an impact on your life?
You pretty much nailed the defination there. I have met folks who call themselves athiests but believe that there are still souls. That is similiar to a vegiterian who eats 'a little meat now and again'. There are also agnostics who just don't know but are open to other ideas, and theists who believe in a higher power but do not subscribe to a specific religion (many of the founding fathers of the US were theists).
Right it doesn't, but that was part of my point, in specific very narrow metrics yes a modern single intel/amd server could have a massive performance gain over a large number of sun boxes from the late 90's. It does not mean its even close to a fair comparison, and it definantly does not factor in all of the things that really matter with running a real server, but you can tweak the stats enough to claim it.
Nah it could well be true. He just is not saying what generation Sparc they are using. I have seen a number of shops scrapping e250's left and right, so I am sure many places have large database setups running on much older sun equipment. My desktop [p4] runs circles around many of our old Sun boxes, granted those sun boxes have been working near flawlessly for well over half a decade.
Many places did their 3-5 year server replacement cycle and used that to migrate off of Sun due to the higher reliability of some of the newer x86_64 platforms, I could see a 10-50x increase in performance on it.
Also I have seen some really ugly replication setups for distributed databases so condensing it all on one higher powered box can give a nice speed boost.
But I see it as less to do with omg bsd 0wnz solaris then it is with Moore's law.
Also postgres is far more lightweight then oracle. Oracle can be tuned (and often is) really poorly, it is the same thing that we have seen with some of the microsoft TCO reports against Linux. A fully tuned Windows server with a series of add-ons and hundreds of man hours to tweak it, vs an out of the box install of linspire on a off the shelf desktop. Apples and Oranges.
Oh and Oracle sucks.
Hrmm I had not done the tracking of his voting record and I could be wrong. However is that his entire time in senate or just the past few years. Honestly until he ran with Gore, I had not followed him much, but it seems in the past 4-5 years his voting record has greatly changed, and I was wondering is that his entire voting record or just the past few years?
Liberman's moderate thinking? Liberman has been voting to the right of much of the republican party for a number of years, Kerry is a moderate, Clinton was a moderate, Liberman is a neo-con.
Those are seperate systems. There are virtualization applications (VMware, VirtualPC) which run as applications and will emulate an entire computer as the program so you can install a fresh OS on top of it and run it in its own little happy sandbox.
There are also programs such as wine, crossover, etc, which emulate windows from inside *nix, so they give you the nessecery dll files and hooks to be able to run Windows binaries on unix-based systems.
So if you wanted to play Everquest/Wow/Civ4 from your Linux box you would use Wine. If you wanted to run a Linux server for testing from your Windows box you would use VMware.
If you are not aware of it (I wasn't until earlier today)
Microsoft is now putting Virtual PC 04 and 07 [still in beta] out for free.
Virtual PC Website
Slashdot Mirror
The reason that won't happen is then vote selling could really happen. I give you $20 to vote for bob, you go do so and give me your number so I can verify it.
I would rather admins admit when they are out of their area and go for a workable outside solution rather then just trying to suck it up and force an incomplete solution that probably does not meet the needs and is often not properly maintained.
How many of the corporate spam zombies you see out there do you think are due to that mentality?
He said that he was unaware he was getting laid off, my guess is they probably escorted him out of the building too and when you are getting laid off, that update you kicked off may not be the most pressing issue on his mind. Also it is an oracle server, it may have just crashed randomly since it was a day that ended in 'y' anyway.
The temperatures on Pluto are much cooler then 0F, but are still above absolute zero K. 0K is not something that changes, Wikipedia's Pluto Article
Other then the fact you can't prove a negative. And the series of investigations from both the US and the UN that found no traces of WMD. (Ok granted there were still some chemical agents around, but they had all been disclosed and they were all from decades earlier, and were not considered WMD anyway).
Well, had the US intelligence community known that there was no active WMD program, we would not have invaded. This was never about 'what Iraqis do to each other'. It started as a response to a dictator that could not assure us he wasn't in possession of certain weapons . He was given ample opportunity to prove to us he didn't have them. We offered to provide and pay the people to gather that proof. He refused. What other option did we have, given that he could have potentially sold these weapons or smuggled them to the same type of people who attacked us in 2001? The fact that he didn't have any is tragic, yes, but those deaths from the resulting military action are Saddam's fault, not ours.
What do you mean, 'deal with these nutjobs'? Who do you think is causing all this shit in Iraq? its the same foreign fighters, recruiting and stirring up local populations. Iraq has become a calling card for foreign jihadis. If we are going to 'deal with these nutjobs', we are going to find them in Iraq. Pulling out would be avoiding dealing with them.
Yes there are outside influences from terror organizations. However much of the violence are from rival internal factions, many of whom are trying to get the occupiers (us) out of their country.
All the shit in Iraq is because we went in, and systematically dismantled every existing social structure they had in place to keep order. You want to talk about creating a vacuum, we did it alright. Pulling out entirely would create another one of course, however us staying there and not working to withdraw is just sitting poking a hornet's nest. As long as we are there it is not going to stabilize, and is just going to continue to escalate the problem.
The other issue is the fact we are not rebuilding, we are not creating new infrastructure, sure we are paying people to do it, but with no accountability or oversight we all see how much they are doing. The entire situation can easily be described using the word cluster, but us being there just increases the number of terrorists and people around the world who hate the US.
The thing is the primary interest to the EFF here is not the ballot measure it is the lack of the audit trail in it. Granted the initiative might be of interest to some slashdot posters, but to the EFF it does not matter.
Nixon at least had a pretty decent grasp of foreign policy.
So... cannibalism?
Right, but going back to the wikipedia entry (and it does quote the source):
"The study found that, during 2003-2004, at any given time, 26.8% of women aged 14 to 59 were infected with at least one type of HPV (including those that are harmless). This was higher than previous estimates. Of the four types prevented by the Gardasil vaccine, however, only 3.4% were infected, which was lower than previous estimates. Of the high-risk types that cause cancer, 15.2% were infected.[6]
Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]"
which was really a surprise to me, I had been thinking the 50% figure was across the entire HPV spectrum.
Unless there is something I have not seen, I think you mean cervical cancer which is caused by HPV.a lence_in_the_United_States
However there are over 100 types of hpv, many of which are transmitted by skin contact or even just things in the environment that can make it manifest on it's own.
I was going to make a point about the 50% having any type of hpv, but nope you are right it is the sexually transmitted kind that over 50% of women will have some point in their life, interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hpv#Genital_HPV_Prev
When you get:
B) Scientist 'Y' accidentally discovers 'free energy', and cannot disprove that it is actually 'free'
They submit it to a peer reviewed journal so it can be re-created by independent scientists then it will be creditable. There is a reason that someone coming out of left field with something like this gets skeptics, it's because it has not been proven yet by the scientific method. Once it can be duplicated and examined by someone who is not seeing VC money over the item, thats when it will get credibility.
Wow that was fun, it stripped out all of my carriage returns. Teach me to not preview first, here it is again with proper returns:
Stupid question here, were they not god's commandments, or is this part of the father/son/ghost thing?
How did porn affect your life, honestly? Most folks I know that have a porn addiction, either are just using personal sexual gratification as another alternative to get the pleasure center of the brain met, it just happened to be the addiction they found. And in most cases either they would have had a similar problem without easy access to porn or would have found another addiction. The other thing I wonder every time I hear about porn addicts, is it the porn itself or is it seeing something taboo? Many of the people I have talked to that have had porn addictions come from hard lining religious or social backgrounds that very much vilify it, and just like drugs kids get into it as an act of rebellion, and because they do not understand the truth about what they are seeing and experiencing they do not know how to handle or control it.
Also with the hard core porn out there, that is not what kids need to be seeing out of the gate. Being able to sit down with a child and talk about the human body and expressions of physical love with images to help explain it can be wonderful for a child to get reality and understand what things mean. I meet so many teens that just don't understand about interpersonal affection and what it can mean. Our society taboos sex and due to sensationalist nature of our media loves to portray it in the most extreme situations and for the most impact. I don't think you need to give your 4 year old a login to some hard-core adult site, but sit down your 8 or 9 year old and give them the basics of sex, and not just the technical "here is what it is and what it is for" but also the beauty and connection of what it can mean. You can get into the 'why do people have fetishes' and 'what is a donkey punch' when the kids are older and ready to handle it.
Honestly I have yet to meet someone who was exposed to sex at an early age, in a responsible manner, that did not turn out at least 'normal' [if not really well adjusted] in regards to sex, their sexual identity and security. If we go back to the second commandment, it would be more like not exposing your neighbor (if they did not want to be exposed) to your sexual acts or porn. You stopping viewing porn does not affect your neighbor, also taking your idea further it really means you should stop driving because you could potentially hit and kill someone which is far worse. Also you should never smoke because the second hand smoke can affect the health of those around you, and really you should make sure everything you do is green or at least carbon neutral since environmental impact affects everyone.
Serious question on your porn addiction, if you had been shown pictures of naked women when you were starting to get to that age and explained about love and sexual intimacy, would viewing porn later had the same impact on you? Also if you had been in a social environment where you could have discussed it, and talked openly about how you were feeling and that you felt you might have a problem, do you think it would have had less of an impact on your life?
Stupid question here, were they not god's commandments, or is this part of the father/son/ghost thing? How did porn affect your life, honestly? Most folks I know that have a porn addiction, either are just using personal sexual gratification as another alternative to get the pleasure center of the brain met, it just happened to be the addiction they found. And in most cases either they would have had a similar problem without easy access to porn or would have found another addiction. The other thing I wonder every time I hear about porn addicts, is it the porn itself or is it seeing something taboo? Many of the people I have talked to that have had porn addictions come from hard lining religious or social backgrounds that very much vilify it, and just like drugs kids get into it as an act of rebellion, and because they do not understand the truth about what they are seeing and experiencing they do not know how to handle or control it. Also with the hard core porn out there, that is not what kids need to be seeing out of the gate. Being able to sit down with a child and talk about the human body and expressions of physical love with images to help explain it can be wonderful for a child to get reality and understand what things mean. I meet so many teens that just don't understand about interpersonal affection and what it can mean. Our society taboos sex and due to sensationalist nature of our media loves to portray it in the most extreme situations and for the most impact. I don't think you need to give your 4 year old a login to some hard-core adult site, but sit down your 8 or 9 year old and give them the basics of sex, and not just the technical "here is what it is and what it is for" but also the beauty and connection of what it can mean. You can get into the 'why do people have fetishes' and 'what is a donkey punch' when the kids are older and ready to handle it. But honestly I have yet to meet someone who was exposed to sex at an early age, in a responsible manner, that did not turn out at least 'normal' [if not really well adjusted] in regards to sex, their sexual identity and security. If we go back to the second commandment, it would be more like not exposing your neighbor (if they did not want to be exposed) to your sexual acts or porn. You stopping viewing porn does not affect your neighbor, also taking your idea further it really means you should stop driving because you could potentially hit and kill someone which is far worse. Also you should never smoke because the second hand smoke can affect the health of those around you, and really you should make sure everything you do is green or at least carbon neutral since environmental impact affects everyone. Serious question on your porn addiction, if you had been shown pictures of naked women when you were starting to get to that age and explained about love and sexual intimacy, would viewing porn later had the same impact on you? Also if you had been in a social environment where you could have discussed it, and talked openly about how you were feeling and that you felt you might have a problem, do you think it would have had less of an impact on your life?
You pretty much nailed the defination there. I have met folks who call themselves athiests but believe that there are still souls. That is similiar to a vegiterian who eats 'a little meat now and again'. There are also agnostics who just don't know but are open to other ideas, and theists who believe in a higher power but do not subscribe to a specific religion (many of the founding fathers of the US were theists).
Right it doesn't, but that was part of my point, in specific very narrow metrics yes a modern single intel/amd server could have a massive performance gain over a large number of sun boxes from the late 90's. It does not mean its even close to a fair comparison, and it definantly does not factor in all of the things that really matter with running a real server, but you can tweak the stats enough to claim it.
The resistance to change cost/energy that goes into any migration should never be overlooked =).
Ok I need to learn to preview. Where did my line breaks go?
Nah it could well be true. He just is not saying what generation Sparc they are using. I have seen a number of shops scrapping e250's left and right, so I am sure many places have large database setups running on much older sun equipment. My desktop [p4] runs circles around many of our old Sun boxes, granted those sun boxes have been working near flawlessly for well over half a decade. Many places did their 3-5 year server replacement cycle and used that to migrate off of Sun due to the higher reliability of some of the newer x86_64 platforms, I could see a 10-50x increase in performance on it. Also I have seen some really ugly replication setups for distributed databases so condensing it all on one higher powered box can give a nice speed boost. But I see it as less to do with omg bsd 0wnz solaris then it is with Moore's law. Also postgres is far more lightweight then oracle. Oracle can be tuned (and often is) really poorly, it is the same thing that we have seen with some of the microsoft TCO reports against Linux. A fully tuned Windows server with a series of add-ons and hundreds of man hours to tweak it, vs an out of the box install of linspire on a off the shelf desktop. Apples and Oranges. Oh and Oracle sucks.
Hrmm I had not done the tracking of his voting record and I could be wrong. However is that his entire time in senate or just the past few years. Honestly until he ran with Gore, I had not followed him much, but it seems in the past 4-5 years his voting record has greatly changed, and I was wondering is that his entire voting record or just the past few years?
Liberman's moderate thinking? Liberman has been voting to the right of much of the republican party for a number of years, Kerry is a moderate, Clinton was a moderate, Liberman is a neo-con.
I am not in disagreement with your statement, but one other thing that is often overlooked, is Mexico is part of North America...
Those are seperate systems. There are virtualization applications (VMware, VirtualPC) which run as applications and will emulate an entire computer as the program so you can install a fresh OS on top of it and run it in its own little happy sandbox. There are also programs such as wine, crossover, etc, which emulate windows from inside *nix, so they give you the nessecery dll files and hooks to be able to run Windows binaries on unix-based systems. So if you wanted to play Everquest/Wow/Civ4 from your Linux box you would use Wine. If you wanted to run a Linux server for testing from your Windows box you would use VMware.
If you are not aware of it (I wasn't until earlier today) Microsoft is now putting Virtual PC 04 and 07 [still in beta] out for free. Virtual PC Website
I wonder if there is any concidence between this and Virtual PC 04/07 being released free. Hrmm...
Like post on slashdot?