err, I beg to differ. I don't know what chipset you've had trouble with, but even the laptop chipset of my athlon XP-M gives gentoo no trouble. Almost all chipsets are now supported by linux, at least most of the VIA I've tried, and the kernel lists a big bunch, which are not for Intel processors. I've had linux on 3 computers with all a different motherboard, but all AMD CPUs: Duron 1.3 GHz, Athlon XP 1800+ and Athlon XP-M 2400+. No trouble from linux with those chips.
I'm afraid that this time, you're not looking at where MS comes from. He does have a point!
Windows, yes, even NT, evolved from the same point. They wanted to start from scratch, so re-wrote alot of the code. But there are so many flaws common to both NT-based and DOS-based versions of windows that you can assume they didn't rewrite the entire OS, only the parts of it that were preventing a good network management.
Now look also at the licensing of windows: each workstation has to run it's own OS, and for each workstation you have to pay a license. So, yes, indeed, even NT, 2000 or XP is a standalone OS.
It's not the technology that's lacking to have multiple terminals from the same kernel, in fact, Microsoft does have them, they just don't advertise it. Just like the LTSP project, Microsoft has it's own server/client software. So why is it that every company seems to need each employee to use his or her own computer as a standalone?
And if Windows was even partially designed for distributed computing I'd be interested to know why no one has attempted this before? Surely you can't tell me someone at MS wouldn't have thought about it until just now...
I for one welcome the fact that MS is trying to enter a market where linux dominates, because in my opinion it'll show Windows' weaknesses, and more importantly, that MS is a very good marketing company, except that their software isn't up to the challenge.
I'm not. In case you hadn't bothered to read my comment completely I said I moved to california only recently. And I kept my email. Is that such a problem? Besides, I'm in Ventura county.
Well, Blender is kinda hard to learn, and counter-intuitive... However, I've heard alot of people saying that the Gimp is an Opensource Photoshop clone. While I don't think it is one, many people do, and expect to find the same UI in the Gimp that they'll have in Photoshop, or at least relatively similar.
I personally think that as was mentionned in another post there should be a completely separate themeing set, where people can create their own designs, specify whether windows are independent or not.
I like being able to open various windows on various virtual desktops, and it's a perfect tool for me, but for others it's less than helpful because they have to switch from one window to the other using alt-tab or clicking in the dock or taskbar. This is especially true on Windows, but also for KDE or Gnome users...
I think that using something like Enlightenment's Edje library for themeing would be more than perfect to allow various themes for the Gimp, letting people choose how to open menus and whatnot, but unfortunately, Edje is still pre-alpha, and it would probably require a major re-write of the Gimp's code, which I doubt the devs are ready for.
As a matter of fact the car comparison is pulled from a Californian talk show (can't remember which one), that said that there was the lowest rate of car returns ever. Besides, for alternative OS saturation, I haven't seen a single Apple store in my county. And it's not exactly far from everything or unpopulated. As I said, I'm talking about southern california, not northern california.
And I wonder why I'm even answering an anonymous coward.
Californians can't be bothered. It's the same problem with car recalls... The car dealers recall them, but people never bring them back to be fixed. I hate to say it, but Californians are just plain lazy. They don't want to wait for something to be ready, it all has to be instantaneous (try explaining that in France cheese takes over a year to mature), and you have to be able to buy it with money. This is from southern california, I can't speak for the rest of the state, but this is what I've seen. And I'm not eligible because I moved in the state after the settlement. I hope this explains it plain and simple. People here do not like Microsoft, they just don't know of anything else, so they stick with it, like too many people. They hate it, but they're too lazy to find an alternative.
already exists. It's frozen carbon dioxide. Used to have fun in the lab with that. Take a tiny bit, put it in one of the smallest eppendorf tubes and it pops like a firecracker... scared the shit out of colleagues too.
remember, this is in a small (250) corporation. Also, it's excluding the cost of antivirus protection and all the malware costs. Probably excluding the cost of spam filters too. So in fact, it is much more than that, but they proved that even buying into MS's FUD doesn't save Windows in the TCO evaluation. In fact, if anything it undoes most of MS's arguments that Linux's TCO is higher. It PROVES to any person trying to justify using windows that they're not justified. Especially because this evaluation is using all of MS's proponent arguments. When companies realize that most of that was BS anyway, the migration will start at a much higher rate.
Trust me, it will happen, it's just a matter of time.
I agree, but I'm talking about offering support for it, and encouraging students to run firefox, not forcing it to anyone. To unify the environment here they even use IE in the mac labs. Now isn't THAT a bad decision? IE is bad enough, but then they use IE for mac, when all owners of a mac presumably use safari... So let's unify it by using a DECENT browser on both platforms.
And yes, I've heard that argument too, but I've proved them wrong because I personally use linux, and their web applications that work only using IE work fine with firefox.
Yeah, I tried it here too, here being a small liberal arts college. We did a student referendum though, and it turned out 47% for Firefox to 53% for IE... Next semester maybe...
Which is probably where Open Source software will eventually win. I remember a Mozilla/Firefox exploit that was patched in an hour... Compare that to the 6 months it took Microsoft to issue a few "simple" patches to Internet Explorer. I think that to defeat these groups the easiest way is to use the least vulnerable software, which for an x86 platform right now seems to be OpenSource software. Didn't apache have a bug that was fixed in less than 30 minutes after the flaw was discovered? How many corporations can brag in the same way about their programs? Not that many, if not none. Way to go, Linux and *BSDs! Eventually people will look for alternatives to Windows because windows will be the same as SkyNet for your computer: install windows and your box will fry under the assaults of virii and other remote-control bots. Use Linux and defeat all those little buggers by not offering the holes:)
I've seen a few SVGA extension cords before, I'm sure they're still around.
But if you're going high tech, don't waste quality with a VGA connection, buy a DVI screen, most ATI graphics cards come with one, not sure about nVidia's. DVI transfers a digital signal, instead of having a digital signal converted to analog for the SVGA and converted to digital again by the screen.
And I'm sure you can find extension cords for those things too, but my suggestion is, put all the cables behind a desk, and put a piece of wood in front of the cables that is glued to your desk (or screwed in, or nailed, or however you feel like attaching it) to protect them from access from your 1 year old. I babysitted a 3 year old, and it's when he gets older you gotta be careful, because they start to learn how to take things apart.
But kids are wonderful, so cheers!
I'm in college, and recently to prevent anyone from the outside to connecting to the campus' wireless network they decided to use Perfigo's smart enforcer client, which requires one to login... I'm pretty sure the server for that thing can accomodate tracking time and or limiting time based on an account balance... Give it a kick.
HP is already selling Pavilions with linux on it. Why not include fully compatible hardware?
And a windows user would buy that because the opensource drivers for windows might be more performant than the windows drivers themselves... Does that make any sense economically?
hey, maybe you don't have the same tastes... but that's why E is great, you can create your own theme from scratch if you want to, and DR17 is going to be no exception, there's going to be alot of configurability for folks like you to make it pretty in their own way.
err, have you tried clicking around? have you noticed left click, middle click and right click all popup different menus? Do you understand the names on those menus? they're pretty self-explanatory...
And yes, E is for Excellency.
You know, with HP and IBM saying they're backing Linux, and HP selling linux laptops, I'd say they should try get help from there. If they're going to succeed, they need a vendor anyway, and what better way than HP's linux laptops? Adapt the chips to both desktop and laptop formats, get a high rate sales like HP and everyone will be happy: the linux community because it'll finally happen, the company because they're making money, and the customers because they've got 100% Linux support on their hardware, which to me is the best price/value to find right now!
~/CS for my computer science programs, ebooks etc..
~/system for any programs or other themes I download that I haven't extracted/installed yet.
~/school for all my homework, sub-dirs by subjects
~/Music -- self-explanatory
~/blends for all my Blender files, with subdirs relevant to type of files (materials for textures, rendering for images in progres...)
and most of the other stuff, well, since my windows C:\ drive is a mess with all those windows dirs anyway, I just put things randomly in it...
Still boots, for when I'm off a network and wanna play a game... So most of the crap I dunno where to put goes in/win:)
Cheers
ah, but then let's put IS under the GPL and then we can all say together: Microsoft IS the worst available, Windows IS a nightmare. And how are they going to reply? Saying that Microsoft IsNot bad? How will the patent play against them in that case?
On the other hand, pro-war and pro-Bush seem to have a hard time admitting that they may be wrong. Why is it that even though the whole planet disagrees with the US that the US HAVE TO BE RIGHT??? I've been accused many times of being narrow minded, but in this instance, I think I'm being open-minded to what other people, who, incidentally happen to be closer to Iraq and more threatened by it's potential WMDs, have to say!
I live in the US now, but looking at the media, I can understand how the public here doesn't understand basics in world politics. In fact, as soon as I get a chance, I'm getting out of this country. It claims to have the most freedoms ever, but when you look closely, it's not quite true. At least not anymore. Germany, the UK and Switzerland offer more freedom to individuals than the US.
So suck that pride of yours, look at facts presented from another side and try and be just a bit critical of your own opinions.
don't forget we're only catching a tiny amount of those anomalies... if we had more, Kerry would've won. So I just say "stand still until January 20th, and lets see who sings the sad song then". It'll probably be me, but so what? At least I'll have a reason to.
you evidently didn't read about the fact that Bush has limited access to his website to people in the US only... Does he have anything to hide? Like the blatant truth maybe? Come on, we all know he screwed up with Iraq, we shouldn't be there in the first place! Kerry said so during the debates "The role of the sanctions were to remove the WMDs from Saddam Hussein, not to get rid of Saddam. And they succeeded at it too."
To which Bush didn't have anything else to respond that "He had the intention to". Yeah, ok, when we're kids there's always someone we want to kill or something we want, and when we grow up, we don't kill or get that thing, at least not many people! Why can't Americans just take the facts and analyze them without the comments from politicians which are obviously biaised?
first, your argument doesn't stand up. Second, when you make spelling mistakes like democracys and representive republic you lose all credibility. Get your facts straight, the United States are supposed to be a Representative Democracy, not republic. I know it, I'm studying the Federalist Papers, anti-federalist papers and other Madison notes in class right now.
They already HAVE an Aircraft carrier. Only one, but they do!
The following countries have AC's:
ordered by number of AC's, I don't have the precise numbers, but I know it's in that order.
USA
UK
France
Russia
China
Just thought I'd let you in on that.
I don't care all that much about CPU performance, it's what it is, with or without recompile. What matters to me is memory usage, as I posted in a comment further up.
If I can shave off a few hundred kilobytes that can be used for 3D modelling instead, well it's worth it for me. I NEED that memory space that other distros eat up by loading all sorts of things I don't know.
Maybe you should've read my answers to some of the other comments first!
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err, I beg to differ. I don't know what chipset you've had trouble with, but even the laptop chipset of my athlon XP-M gives gentoo no trouble. Almost all chipsets are now supported by linux, at least most of the VIA I've tried, and the kernel lists a big bunch, which are not for Intel processors. I've had linux on 3 computers with all a different motherboard, but all AMD CPUs: Duron 1.3 GHz, Athlon XP 1800+ and Athlon XP-M 2400+. No trouble from linux with those chips.
I'm afraid that this time, you're not looking at where MS comes from. He does have a point! Windows, yes, even NT, evolved from the same point. They wanted to start from scratch, so re-wrote alot of the code. But there are so many flaws common to both NT-based and DOS-based versions of windows that you can assume they didn't rewrite the entire OS, only the parts of it that were preventing a good network management. Now look also at the licensing of windows: each workstation has to run it's own OS, and for each workstation you have to pay a license. So, yes, indeed, even NT, 2000 or XP is a standalone OS. It's not the technology that's lacking to have multiple terminals from the same kernel, in fact, Microsoft does have them, they just don't advertise it. Just like the LTSP project, Microsoft has it's own server/client software. So why is it that every company seems to need each employee to use his or her own computer as a standalone? And if Windows was even partially designed for distributed computing I'd be interested to know why no one has attempted this before? Surely you can't tell me someone at MS wouldn't have thought about it until just now... I for one welcome the fact that MS is trying to enter a market where linux dominates, because in my opinion it'll show Windows' weaknesses, and more importantly, that MS is a very good marketing company, except that their software isn't up to the challenge.
I'm not. In case you hadn't bothered to read my comment completely I said I moved to california only recently. And I kept my email. Is that such a problem? Besides, I'm in Ventura county.
Well, Blender is kinda hard to learn, and counter-intuitive... However, I've heard alot of people saying that the Gimp is an Opensource Photoshop clone. While I don't think it is one, many people do, and expect to find the same UI in the Gimp that they'll have in Photoshop, or at least relatively similar. I personally think that as was mentionned in another post there should be a completely separate themeing set, where people can create their own designs, specify whether windows are independent or not. I like being able to open various windows on various virtual desktops, and it's a perfect tool for me, but for others it's less than helpful because they have to switch from one window to the other using alt-tab or clicking in the dock or taskbar. This is especially true on Windows, but also for KDE or Gnome users... I think that using something like Enlightenment's Edje library for themeing would be more than perfect to allow various themes for the Gimp, letting people choose how to open menus and whatnot, but unfortunately, Edje is still pre-alpha, and it would probably require a major re-write of the Gimp's code, which I doubt the devs are ready for.
As a matter of fact the car comparison is pulled from a Californian talk show (can't remember which one), that said that there was the lowest rate of car returns ever. Besides, for alternative OS saturation, I haven't seen a single Apple store in my county. And it's not exactly far from everything or unpopulated. As I said, I'm talking about southern california, not northern california. And I wonder why I'm even answering an anonymous coward.
Californians can't be bothered. It's the same problem with car recalls... The car dealers recall them, but people never bring them back to be fixed. I hate to say it, but Californians are just plain lazy. They don't want to wait for something to be ready, it all has to be instantaneous (try explaining that in France cheese takes over a year to mature), and you have to be able to buy it with money. This is from southern california, I can't speak for the rest of the state, but this is what I've seen. And I'm not eligible because I moved in the state after the settlement. I hope this explains it plain and simple. People here do not like Microsoft, they just don't know of anything else, so they stick with it, like too many people. They hate it, but they're too lazy to find an alternative.
already exists. It's frozen carbon dioxide. Used to have fun in the lab with that. Take a tiny bit, put it in one of the smallest eppendorf tubes and it pops like a firecracker... scared the shit out of colleagues too.
remember, this is in a small (250) corporation. Also, it's excluding the cost of antivirus protection and all the malware costs. Probably excluding the cost of spam filters too. So in fact, it is much more than that, but they proved that even buying into MS's FUD doesn't save Windows in the TCO evaluation. In fact, if anything it undoes most of MS's arguments that Linux's TCO is higher. It PROVES to any person trying to justify using windows that they're not justified. Especially because this evaluation is using all of MS's proponent arguments. When companies realize that most of that was BS anyway, the migration will start at a much higher rate. Trust me, it will happen, it's just a matter of time.
I agree, but I'm talking about offering support for it, and encouraging students to run firefox, not forcing it to anyone. To unify the environment here they even use IE in the mac labs. Now isn't THAT a bad decision? IE is bad enough, but then they use IE for mac, when all owners of a mac presumably use safari... So let's unify it by using a DECENT browser on both platforms. And yes, I've heard that argument too, but I've proved them wrong because I personally use linux, and their web applications that work only using IE work fine with firefox.
Yeah, I tried it here too, here being a small liberal arts college. We did a student referendum though, and it turned out 47% for Firefox to 53% for IE... Next semester maybe...
Which is probably where Open Source software will eventually win. I remember a Mozilla/Firefox exploit that was patched in an hour... Compare that to the 6 months it took Microsoft to issue a few "simple" patches to Internet Explorer. :)
I think that to defeat these groups the easiest way is to use the least vulnerable software, which for an x86 platform right now seems to be OpenSource software.
Didn't apache have a bug that was fixed in less than 30 minutes after the flaw was discovered?
How many corporations can brag in the same way about their programs? Not that many, if not none.
Way to go, Linux and *BSDs! Eventually people will look for alternatives to Windows because windows will be the same as SkyNet for your computer: install windows and your box will fry under the assaults of virii and other remote-control bots. Use Linux and defeat all those little buggers by not offering the holes
I've seen a few SVGA extension cords before, I'm sure they're still around. But if you're going high tech, don't waste quality with a VGA connection, buy a DVI screen, most ATI graphics cards come with one, not sure about nVidia's. DVI transfers a digital signal, instead of having a digital signal converted to analog for the SVGA and converted to digital again by the screen. And I'm sure you can find extension cords for those things too, but my suggestion is, put all the cables behind a desk, and put a piece of wood in front of the cables that is glued to your desk (or screwed in, or nailed, or however you feel like attaching it) to protect them from access from your 1 year old. I babysitted a 3 year old, and it's when he gets older you gotta be careful, because they start to learn how to take things apart. But kids are wonderful, so cheers!
I'm in college, and recently to prevent anyone from the outside to connecting to the campus' wireless network they decided to use Perfigo's smart enforcer client, which requires one to login... I'm pretty sure the server for that thing can accomodate tracking time and or limiting time based on an account balance... Give it a kick.
HP is already selling Pavilions with linux on it. Why not include fully compatible hardware? And a windows user would buy that because the opensource drivers for windows might be more performant than the windows drivers themselves... Does that make any sense economically?
hey, maybe you don't have the same tastes... but that's why E is great, you can create your own theme from scratch if you want to, and DR17 is going to be no exception, there's going to be alot of configurability for folks like you to make it pretty in their own way.
err, have you tried clicking around? have you noticed left click, middle click and right click all popup different menus? Do you understand the names on those menus? they're pretty self-explanatory... And yes, E is for Excellency.
You know, with HP and IBM saying they're backing Linux, and HP selling linux laptops, I'd say they should try get help from there. If they're going to succeed, they need a vendor anyway, and what better way than HP's linux laptops? Adapt the chips to both desktop and laptop formats, get a high rate sales like HP and everyone will be happy: the linux community because it'll finally happen, the company because they're making money, and the customers because they've got 100% Linux support on their hardware, which to me is the best price/value to find right now!
~/CS for my computer science programs, ebooks etc.. ~/system for any programs or other themes I download that I haven't extracted/installed yet. ~/school for all my homework, sub-dirs by subjects ~/Music -- self-explanatory ~/blends for all my Blender files, with subdirs relevant to type of files (materials for textures, rendering for images in progres...) and most of the other stuff, well, since my windows C:\ drive is a mess with all those windows dirs anyway, I just put things randomly in it... Still boots, for when I'm off a network and wanna play a game... So most of the crap I dunno where to put goes in /win :)
Cheers
ah, but then let's put IS under the GPL and then we can all say together: Microsoft IS the worst available, Windows IS a nightmare.
And how are they going to reply? Saying that Microsoft IsNot bad? How will the patent play against them in that case?
On the other hand, pro-war and pro-Bush seem to have a hard time admitting that they may be wrong. Why is it that even though the whole planet disagrees with the US that the US HAVE TO BE RIGHT??? I've been accused many times of being narrow minded, but in this instance, I think I'm being open-minded to what other people, who, incidentally happen to be closer to Iraq and more threatened by it's potential WMDs, have to say! I live in the US now, but looking at the media, I can understand how the public here doesn't understand basics in world politics. In fact, as soon as I get a chance, I'm getting out of this country. It claims to have the most freedoms ever, but when you look closely, it's not quite true. At least not anymore. Germany, the UK and Switzerland offer more freedom to individuals than the US. So suck that pride of yours, look at facts presented from another side and try and be just a bit critical of your own opinions.
don't forget we're only catching a tiny amount of those anomalies... if we had more, Kerry would've won. So I just say "stand still until January 20th, and lets see who sings the sad song then". It'll probably be me, but so what? At least I'll have a reason to.
you evidently didn't read about the fact that Bush has limited access to his website to people in the US only... Does he have anything to hide? Like the blatant truth maybe? Come on, we all know he screwed up with Iraq, we shouldn't be there in the first place! Kerry said so during the debates "The role of the sanctions were to remove the WMDs from Saddam Hussein, not to get rid of Saddam. And they succeeded at it too." To which Bush didn't have anything else to respond that "He had the intention to". Yeah, ok, when we're kids there's always someone we want to kill or something we want, and when we grow up, we don't kill or get that thing, at least not many people! Why can't Americans just take the facts and analyze them without the comments from politicians which are obviously biaised?
first, your argument doesn't stand up. Second, when you make spelling mistakes like democracys and representive republic you lose all credibility. Get your facts straight, the United States are supposed to be a Representative Democracy, not republic. I know it, I'm studying the Federalist Papers, anti-federalist papers and other Madison notes in class right now.
They already HAVE an Aircraft carrier. Only one, but they do! The following countries have AC's: ordered by number of AC's, I don't have the precise numbers, but I know it's in that order. USA UK France Russia China Just thought I'd let you in on that.
I don't care all that much about CPU performance, it's what it is, with or without recompile. What matters to me is memory usage, as I posted in a comment further up. If I can shave off a few hundred kilobytes that can be used for 3D modelling instead, well it's worth it for me. I NEED that memory space that other distros eat up by loading all sorts of things I don't know. Maybe you should've read my answers to some of the other comments first!