China is one of the larger countries in the world. Not only in population, but in sheer physical size. So obviously there will be multiple cultures there. You should know that even better than me (My knowledge of China is limited, but my fiancee is chinese, and thus all of the family on that side). Its even moreso in China than in other countries, since you guys have very defined cultural separations (for example, the different dialects). Thus, what holds true in one half of china, is totally wrong on the other half. Hell, I'm sure there are places in China where piracy is almost unheard of (probably very few, but still).
What im saying is: in -Canada- there are places where you can talk about a console, and no one ever heard of them. Same in the US. So, OMG, same in China. Doesn't change that console gaming is big in China (when the consoles actualy become available that is, though there is a huge import market).
No new hardware allowed rule? The reason changing chipset hoses a install is just because of stupidity in MS' hardware detection, and has nothing to do with any of that junk. Its just a registery tweak or two away to make sure Windows redetect it. Actualy, the computer I'm typing this on was setup this way (it did have to reactivate...but the harddrive was the ONLY piece of hardware that didn't change, so that part is understandable:) )
So to make those with 10 years old hardware happy, we have to hold everyone back? No, there ARE lightweight distros. However, the mainstream distros will try and be current. One of the edges MacOSX has over Windows is that Windows clings to legacy (not much choice with their market share, but still). If mainstream distros cling to legacy, they will fall behind. There will always be debian and co for people with lighter hardware.
But that's just a market thing. Phone calls in the US have always been cheaper than Australia (and most other places too, AFAIK). If Australia had the population density of the US, or the population to support the levels of competition in the US, we would pay much less per minute for outgoing calls.
Nothing to do with it: Im canadian and I pay roughly the same price (less?) than my girlfriend (New Yorker) does, even if we check different phone companies:)
End of line is: this is just a cultural thing. I beleive that making people pay because -I- decided to have a cellphone, is rediculous. You guys feel that making someone else than the caller pay, is rediculous. When you think about it, both make sense. So it just depends which one you've been used to.
Having done that with WinXP douzans of time, that never triggered reactivation issues (worked for a company that only bought craptastic hardware, so we changed it every few months...and no, we didnt use corporate version of windows).
That being said, Nvidia and ATI would be out of business if only serious gamers and artists had non-integrated boards:)
bingo. And it will be the same for Vista. It will just be a 5 minutes phone call away if you get activation issues, even if its not ligitimate.
All this is, is an annoying way to "educate" (i use this lightly) people who don't know about how microsoft junk is being licensed. Aside for the phone call, you'll be able to do whatever with your CD... this is just for show more than anything else.
I didnt read the article, but the little bits above says that the algorythm is more forgiving than XP. in XP you can change almost everything and it doesn't notice... You think changing your videocard will trigger anything in Vista?
It probably means that since you can only change your machine once, that they made the description of what is a change in machine a lot more flexible. Most likely as long as you don't change 90% of the hardware in ONE shot, it doesnt count... Aka: if you change the board, the video card, the sound card, the network card, the monitor (lol), etc in one shot, it will count as changing machine. But if one month you change the board, next month the video, next month the sound, etc, it won't use up your "one time chance", ever.
Thats my guess anyway. I flipped my machine upside down, and WinXP didn't notice...so if Vista's is even MORE forgiving...you probably can install it on a Mac from a Pc and it wont realize it >.>
Keep in mind that the rule was that the file had to be a self executable. If you just did default gziping, you'd have to include the overhead of a self executable in the total.
As far as I know its illegal for telemarkers to call cellphones, and they have to remove you from their list if they catch you by mistake, etc. I have never, ever, not even a single time, got a telemarker on my cell, ever.
And it really is just a matter of how you see things. Right now, I'm looking for a job, and i'm out a lot... The idea of someone calling me for an interview, and having to pay for calling me, is just messed up. So both ways have their advantages.
Also, a lot of cellphone plans have "free incoming calls", so -no one- pays for those, thats always great.
Err...how do you think I deal with CSS/XHTML (hell, even plain HTML)-right now-, since no editor can handle it fine? By using mind control on my computer?
I can code by hand, there are just things in life (like...err...-visual components-) that are better handled without. This is the same way as I -can- code C++, Java, or C# in VIM, create make files, compile it through command line. It is simply not the most efficient way of doing things in fast paced business environments.
Currently with the web, unless you use Flash or something, you have no choice: you have to do most of the work by hand (you can -start- in a wysiwyg editor to get a rough template...thats about it, unless you, like, use Dreamweaver for a flat HTML page with table layouts or something, and that doesn't cut it). Great development environments have both (for example, I can make a windows form in C# by hand, or I can use Visual Studio's editor, and both work peachy). The fact that XHTML/CSS' architecture is made in a way that it might still be years (decades?) before any decent wysiwyg editor can deal with it (hell, there isn't even any browser that deal with it at 100% yet!) is a weakness, in my opinion.
Yeah, that is my issue with the W3C. They honestly live in a world of unicorn and little pink imps.
Too busy seeing XHTML/CSS has the -core- of everything and anything, they forget that we're not 10 years ago, and that developers actualy could care less about the theorical integrity of their apps, they just want it to work, and be maintainable. And sorry, needing 15 divs wrapped around a single element to get it positioned the way I want it to does NOT make it easier to maintain. Having a formatting spec that is almost impossible to implement in a wysiwyg editor does NOT add value to my app (since I have to hire more qualified people to do seemingly simple things). The good part about XHTML is how it makes for some cleaner code (case sensitive, closing tags, etc). The rest can honestly go to hell. For a lot of us, the presentation layer is only 1 layer out of 10+ in our apps. We don't feel like spending 50% of our time on it.
That really shows how clueless the Slashdot crowd can be sometimes, considering how many places this comment pops up.
Yes, WGA is easy to defeat. Thats not the point. There are douzans of thousands (dare I say hundreds of thousands?) of people who copy CDs and install them all over (even large corporations!) because they don't realise that its 1 license per user. Read that again: They don't realise it, they don't know it. Many -consulting firms- (thats geeks here!) buy 1 MSDN Universal subscriptions, and use them for 20 developers, thinking its what you're SUPPOSED to do. Same with Windows, same with Office, same with everything.
These tools are ONLY meant to stop those people. No one else. Yes they will lose a few customers (a lot even) in the process. But they'll make it back up. You have no idea how many people I know purchased legit copies of Windows just because of the original WinXP's activation scheme, going "Wha? You mean if you own the CD its not enough to install it on my 8 computers? How come?", until they got explained how things work in the non-free world.
Remember, from Microsoft's point of view, real world problems are problems that start when you're a multi million dollar corporation doing complex software integration.
One of the places that a lot of people working in that environment ends up, is needing a rendering engine to...render stuff. For a lot of reasons, IE's engine is used a lot, in a LOT of places that have -jack shit- to do with the web. Good reasons too. And this "problem" is one that quickly becomes hell if you change IE too much.
Being one of the people in that situation...I still wish they had fixed CSS better: I prefer having to fix the internal rendering of a custom reporting engine, than having to fight with internet facing pages. But it seems like people with more millions than I do bitched louder:)
Yeah, that would be pretty bad. This is something that has always been bothering me, but I just thought about something while reading your post.
While not 100% true in all cases, the beauty of java isn't really in the base JVM, its in J2EE. At least, it is what pushes it in the corporate space, where the money is. With that in mind, a specific J2EE implementation usualy has a couple of "supported" JVMs (sometimes only one even). So I suspect even these alternate JVMs, at least the serious ones (which would want to work with J2EE, or else be forgotten), will stay in line (read: compatible) with the commercial J2EE implementations, or die. So while we WILL see a bunch of weirdo useless JVM/Java implementations (I realise both aren't the same thing, but the logic still stands), there should be a couple that stay at the top, and we'll just use those.
Im not positive, but I thought the rumble feature was taken out because of licensing issues (which Nintendo and Microsoft dealt with, but not Sony).
Could be wrong though.
That is true. That is why even those of us who will keep using Microsoft products, are thankful for things like Linux, Firefox, OpenOffice, Java, etc. All these things made Microsoft products better:)
Thats unavoidable, unfortunately. The vocal majority is rarely the majority. So people who complain tends not to state what people in general wants...so you either make the loud mouths happy, or the quiet majority...but you won't get both. Unfortunately, both have roughly the same amount of power, even though their is a huge numerical imbalance:(
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China is one of the larger countries in the world. Not only in population, but in sheer physical size. So obviously there will be multiple cultures there. You should know that even better than me (My knowledge of China is limited, but my fiancee is chinese, and thus all of the family on that side). Its even moreso in China than in other countries, since you guys have very defined cultural separations (for example, the different dialects). Thus, what holds true in one half of china, is totally wrong on the other half. Hell, I'm sure there are places in China where piracy is almost unheard of (probably very few, but still).
What im saying is: in -Canada- there are places where you can talk about a console, and no one ever heard of them. Same in the US. So, OMG, same in China. Doesn't change that console gaming is big in China (when the consoles actualy become available that is, though there is a huge import market).
Me, I read throwable as in "disposable". Go and picture my face when I read that.
Then they can use reptile names! Mac OS X Cobra has a nice ring to it.
Before someone who totally didn't get it replies "lololz Windows Server is the same thing as windows desktop except with 2-3 different features..."
I meant when it came to licensing and software restriction and activation and all that junk.
Last I checked, Vista wasn't a server operating system, and Windows server worked totally differently.
No new hardware allowed rule? The reason changing chipset hoses a install is just because of stupidity in MS' hardware detection, and has nothing to do with any of that junk. Its just a registery tweak or two away to make sure Windows redetect it. Actualy, the computer I'm typing this on was setup this way (it did have to reactivate...but the harddrive was the ONLY piece of hardware that didn't change, so that part is understandable :) )
Ironicaly enough, Windows work better as a server than it does as a desktop :)
So to make those with 10 years old hardware happy, we have to hold everyone back? No, there ARE lightweight distros. However, the mainstream distros will try and be current. One of the edges MacOSX has over Windows is that Windows clings to legacy (not much choice with their market share, but still). If mainstream distros cling to legacy, they will fall behind. There will always be debian and co for people with lighter hardware.
Nothing to do with it: Im canadian and I pay roughly the same price (less?) than my girlfriend (New Yorker) does, even if we check different phone companies
End of line is: this is just a cultural thing. I beleive that making people pay because -I- decided to have a cellphone, is rediculous. You guys feel that making someone else than the caller pay, is rediculous. When you think about it, both make sense. So it just depends which one you've been used to.
Having done that with WinXP douzans of time, that never triggered reactivation issues (worked for a company that only bought craptastic hardware, so we changed it every few months...and no, we didnt use corporate version of windows). :)
That being said, Nvidia and ATI would be out of business if only serious gamers and artists had non-integrated boards
bingo. And it will be the same for Vista. It will just be a 5 minutes phone call away if you get activation issues, even if its not ligitimate.
All this is, is an annoying way to "educate" (i use this lightly) people who don't know about how microsoft junk is being licensed. Aside for the phone call, you'll be able to do whatever with your CD... this is just for show more than anything else.
I didnt read the article, but the little bits above says that the algorythm is more forgiving than XP. in XP you can change almost everything and it doesn't notice... You think changing your videocard will trigger anything in Vista?
It probably means that since you can only change your machine once, that they made the description of what is a change in machine a lot more flexible. Most likely as long as you don't change 90% of the hardware in ONE shot, it doesnt count... Aka: if you change the board, the video card, the sound card, the network card, the monitor (lol), etc in one shot, it will count as changing machine. But if one month you change the board, next month the video, next month the sound, etc, it won't use up your "one time chance", ever. Thats my guess anyway. I flipped my machine upside down, and WinXP didn't notice...so if Vista's is even MORE forgiving...you probably can install it on a Mac from a Pc and it wont realize it >.>
Keep in mind that the rule was that the file had to be a self executable. If you just did default gziping, you'd have to include the overhead of a self executable in the total.
As far as I know its illegal for telemarkers to call cellphones, and they have to remove you from their list if they catch you by mistake, etc. I have never, ever, not even a single time, got a telemarker on my cell, ever.
And it really is just a matter of how you see things. Right now, I'm looking for a job, and i'm out a lot... The idea of someone calling me for an interview, and having to pay for calling me, is just messed up. So both ways have their advantages.
Also, a lot of cellphone plans have "free incoming calls", so -no one- pays for those, thats always great.
Err...how do you think I deal with CSS/XHTML (hell, even plain HTML)-right now-, since no editor can handle it fine? By using mind control on my computer?
I can code by hand, there are just things in life (like...err...-visual components-) that are better handled without. This is the same way as I -can- code C++, Java, or C# in VIM, create make files, compile it through command line. It is simply not the most efficient way of doing things in fast paced business environments.
Currently with the web, unless you use Flash or something, you have no choice: you have to do most of the work by hand (you can -start- in a wysiwyg editor to get a rough template...thats about it, unless you, like, use Dreamweaver for a flat HTML page with table layouts or something, and that doesn't cut it). Great development environments have both (for example, I can make a windows form in C# by hand, or I can use Visual Studio's editor, and both work peachy). The fact that XHTML/CSS' architecture is made in a way that it might still be years (decades?) before any decent wysiwyg editor can deal with it (hell, there isn't even any browser that deal with it at 100% yet!) is a weakness, in my opinion.
Yeah, that is my issue with the W3C. They honestly live in a world of unicorn and little pink imps.
Too busy seeing XHTML/CSS has the -core- of everything and anything, they forget that we're not 10 years ago, and that developers actualy could care less about the theorical integrity of their apps, they just want it to work, and be maintainable. And sorry, needing 15 divs wrapped around a single element to get it positioned the way I want it to does NOT make it easier to maintain. Having a formatting spec that is almost impossible to implement in a wysiwyg editor does NOT add value to my app (since I have to hire more qualified people to do seemingly simple things). The good part about XHTML is how it makes for some cleaner code (case sensitive, closing tags, etc). The rest can honestly go to hell. For a lot of us, the presentation layer is only 1 layer out of 10+ in our apps. We don't feel like spending 50% of our time on it.
That really shows how clueless the Slashdot crowd can be sometimes, considering how many places this comment pops up.
Yes, WGA is easy to defeat. Thats not the point. There are douzans of thousands (dare I say hundreds of thousands?) of people who copy CDs and install them all over (even large corporations!) because they don't realise that its 1 license per user. Read that again: They don't realise it, they don't know it. Many -consulting firms- (thats geeks here!) buy 1 MSDN Universal subscriptions, and use them for 20 developers, thinking its what you're SUPPOSED to do. Same with Windows, same with Office, same with everything. These tools are ONLY meant to stop those people. No one else. Yes they will lose a few customers (a lot even) in the process. But they'll make it back up. You have no idea how many people I know purchased legit copies of Windows just because of the original WinXP's activation scheme, going "Wha? You mean if you own the CD its not enough to install it on my 8 computers? How come?", until they got explained how things work in the non-free world.
SLIGHTLY?!
Remember, from Microsoft's point of view, real world problems are problems that start when you're a multi million dollar corporation doing complex software integration. One of the places that a lot of people working in that environment ends up, is needing a rendering engine to...render stuff. For a lot of reasons, IE's engine is used a lot, in a LOT of places that have -jack shit- to do with the web. Good reasons too. And this "problem" is one that quickly becomes hell if you change IE too much.
:)
Being one of the people in that situation...I still wish they had fixed CSS better: I prefer having to fix the internal rendering of a custom reporting engine, than having to fight with internet facing pages. But it seems like people with more millions than I do bitched louder
Yeah, that would be pretty bad. This is something that has always been bothering me, but I just thought about something while reading your post.
While not 100% true in all cases, the beauty of java isn't really in the base JVM, its in J2EE. At least, it is what pushes it in the corporate space, where the money is. With that in mind, a specific J2EE implementation usualy has a couple of "supported" JVMs (sometimes only one even). So I suspect even these alternate JVMs, at least the serious ones (which would want to work with J2EE, or else be forgotten), will stay in line (read: compatible) with the commercial J2EE implementations, or die. So while we WILL see a bunch of weirdo useless JVM/Java implementations (I realise both aren't the same thing, but the logic still stands), there should be a couple that stay at the top, and we'll just use those.
Im not positive, but I thought the rumble feature was taken out because of licensing issues (which Nintendo and Microsoft dealt with, but not Sony).
Could be wrong though.
That is true. That is why even those of us who will keep using Microsoft products, are thankful for things like Linux, Firefox, OpenOffice, Java, etc. All these things made Microsoft products better :)
Thats unavoidable, unfortunately. The vocal majority is rarely the majority. So people who complain tends not to state what people in general wants...so you either make the loud mouths happy, or the quiet majority...but you won't get both. Unfortunately, both have roughly the same amount of power, even though their is a huge numerical imbalance :(