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Male Blood Elves Get Pumped Up

Kotaku reports that the Male Blood Elves, from the upcoming World of Warcraft expansion Burning Crusade, have been made more masculine by their Blizzard overseers. Which totally makes sense, because when I think elves I think paragons of masculinity. From the article: "You changed it because your constituency is a bunch of capslock-riding asshats who are threatened by bishy player characters. The reason Blood Elves were Horde in the first place is because everyone was whining about all the Horde races being ugly juggernauts. The point of Blood Elves was to inject some swish into a very physically intimidating set of races. They're not exactly chunky now, and I do not begrudge a game company making prerelease aesthetic changes, but their reasons for doing so are pathetic. " Before and after photos are available in their post.

232 comments

  1. congratulations, blizzard by blackcoot · · Score: 5, Funny

    you've taken characters that were previously more like sensitive, artsy types and made them look like hulk hogan in drag. bravo.

    1. Re:congratulations, blizzard by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is this news?

      Because it is so much more "news for nerds" than the info Apple posted about adding application signing, mandatory access controls, resolution independence, OpenGL 2.1, and automatic threading to use multiple cores for single threaded OpenGL applications in Leopard, that I submitted and had rejected yesterday.

    2. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It must be pretty bad, the site has been blocked by WebSense.

    3. Re:congratulations, blizzard by hymie3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      If by "bad" you mean "blocked because it includes a link to gaygamer.net", then yes.

    4. Re:congratulations, blizzard by blackcoot · · Score: 4, Funny

      because there's a sensitive, artsy type amongst the editors that resents being forced to look like hulk hogan in drag?

      your guess is as good as mine.

    5. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      So they're like Mac users who converted to Windows?

    6. Re:congratulations, blizzard by bryanb80 · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...because Blizzard's market share is larger than Apples?

    7. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Ubergrendle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately many more people find this minor tidbit of information more interesting and relevant than a tedious discussion about program controls for a minor platform.

      A less hostile way of stating it is: to appeal to the masses you need to aim for the median, to appeal to the specialists you need to be specific.

      If you're uninterested in gaming content, you can unsubscribe from that channel in Slashdot.

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    8. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oddly, I can access gaygamer.net just fine.

    9. Re:congratulations, blizzard by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately many more people find this minor tidbit of information more interesting and relevant than a tedious discussion about program controls for a minor platform. /i>

      Yeah. Those people are called "nerds." Oh well. I'm sure I can half-heartedly pay attention to a horribly misinformed discussion about these features in ten years, when Micrososft gets around to copying them.

    10. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the way you take said rejection; you'd think they hit on your sister and insulted your mother. Lighten up dude.

    11. Re:congratulations, blizzard by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      ...and the way you take said rejection; you'd think they hit on your sister and insulted your mother. Lighten up dude.

      I don't mind a discussion about the size of digital elf pectorals. It is inane, but mildly amusing. Still, I can get the same discussion on Digg or somewhere else. The quality of the comments is not related to the audience base of Slashdot. It is hard, however, to find a forum where one can have a real, informed discussion about emerging security mechanisms, just now preparing to enter the mainstream. I can discuss them with five guys on a BSD forum, who are very knowledgeable, but in order to get some more varied information a wider discussion is in order.

      I don't care if the editors post my story. I just want them to post the info from someone so that I can actually ask a few real questions and get some feedback. It has been three days now since this info was released and still nothing has made it on any forums or major news sites. I resubmitted the info as another story with more quotes and more of my own opinions and it has been pending for a while now.

      The only reason I interjected it here was because someone else brought up the subject of whether the WoW blurb was really news and I thought it was a funny demonstration of what is and is not accepted as "news for nerds." Given the fact that it was for several hours the only +5 modded post here, I suspect I'm not the only one who thought so.

    12. Re:congratulations, blizzard by IcarusMoth · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Bitter much?

    13. Re:congratulations, blizzard by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      Bitter much?

      Read this comment I made in reply to the previous post that said the same basic thing as yours.

    14. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, this story and yours are both equally "news for nerds".

      However, only this one is "stuff that matters".

    15. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Nushio · · Score: 0

      Yeah! I won't be happy until WoW females have their own anti-gravity bikinis, as expressed here

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    16. Re:congratulations, blizzard by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oddly, I can access gaygamer.net just fine.

            Well, isn't that just... special

      (not that there's anything wrong with that)

    17. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange to think that the people that most 'nerds' aspire to be like (non-blizzard game developers, open source professionals, etc) couldn't give two shits about world of warcraft, and generally prefer spending time in the big blue room with the normal people.

    18. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly this is the end of the world.....

      of Warcraft.

    19. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Raenex · · Score: 1
      I don't care if the editors post my story.

      Yes you do. Rejection hurts, and it's natural to feel bitter. I remember my first rejection after getting my first two submissions accepted. Rationally, I knew it was a stupid thing to feel bitter about, but emotionally I couldn't help it. I think I stopped visiting daily and meta-moderating for a while too.

    20. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is this news? because unlike Linux or anything else thats open source and free, people have to pay for it, its not that i dont care about Linux / Open source etc, its just that I contribute to the $100 million per month that blizzard rake in with subscriber costs - therefore i would hope like all hell when something happens - I find out.

    21. Re:congratulations, blizzard by HeroreV · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It's really obvious why they did this; the character looked gay and Blizzard hates gay people. They've banned guilds from advertising sexual preferences, and they don't do anything about in-game gay bashing. If they didn't hate gay people, Blizzard would give players an option about which design they want their character to be instead of just forcing the more "masculine" one on them.

    22. Re:congratulations, blizzard by jiipee · · Score: 1

      Tom of Azeroth: Illidan and the muscle academy.

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    23. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Those people are called "nerds."

      Actually, I think the technical term is not "Nerd", but rather "Mac Weenie"

    24. Re:congratulations, blizzard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So in other words, Blizzard finally nerfed twinks?

    25. Re:congratulations, blizzard by blackcoot · · Score: 1

      you know what they say: muscle bears are the new black. or something.

  2. so... by mmmmbeer · · Score: 5, Funny

    So a bunch of whiny pansies are bitching about Blizzard giving in to a bunch of whiny pansies? Will that make them change it back?

  3. "Some swish"? by Canthros · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Bishy"?

    Are we reading the rantings of some crazed slash-fiction writer? This has to be the most mind-numbingly stupid objection to a change that I've ever heard.

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    1. Re:"Some swish"? by Ironsides · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Bishy"?

      Bishy: Short for Bishounen.

      Bishounen: Japanese word translating roughly as "Pretty Boy". Used to refer to males who are very handsome/pretty and sometimes very androgynous. Wiki Link

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    2. Re:"Some swish"? by blueZhift · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Bishy"?

      This probably refers to the Japanese term, bishonen, which means "beautiful boy". Just think of Orlando Bloom who plays Legolas in the LotR movies. You'll also see this in Japanese RPGs such as the Final Fantasy series. I guess some guys are too macho to play as bishonen, eh?

    3. Re:"Some swish"? by Kimos · · Score: 1

      Alternately: Bishy

    4. Re:"Some swish"? by Canthros · · Score: 1

      To the innumerable helpful pedants: I already knew what 'bishy' meant.

      It's not really something that pops up in conversation with normal people, though.

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    5. Re:"Some swish"? by theskipper · · Score: 1

      Lesson learned today: Don't mess with Billy Robertson.

      Or his enemies.

    6. Re:"Some swish"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It's not really something that pops up in conversation with normal people, though.

      Forget where you were posting again?

    7. Re:"Some swish"? by Virak · · Score: 1
      It's not really something that pops up in conversation with normal people, though.

      You must be new here.
    8. Re:"Some swish"? by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      In other words, if it doesn't affect you personally, you don't give a damn how other people feel.

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    9. Re:"Some swish"? by Canthros · · Score: 1

      Not really, no.

      I did specify normal as a qualifier, after all. Also, 4-digit uid. I'd like to claim that Slashdotters had a bit more perspective, back in the day. However, I've been here plenty long enough to doubt that.

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    10. Re:"Some swish"? by Canthros · · Score: 1

      Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Unless I mean that it's a petty and trivial thing to get worked up over, and maybe the writer should relax, take a break, and visit the Big Blue Room with the Daystar in it?

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    11. Re:"Some swish"? by Tsuzuki · · Score: 1

      It's obvious you understand the term, or else you wouldn't have mentioned slash...

      But the "crazed slash-fiction writer" types are probably the ones most affected by the change. They're playing as male Blood Elves mostly for the aesthetics of the character, including the bish and the swish. ;D Say whatever you like about the changes, but they're still paying customers!

    12. Re:"Some swish"? by Knara · · Score: 1

      I dunno, it seems to be that "back in the day" there was a barrier to entry (what's this "www" thing you speak of) that kept things from being as reactionary. Though, I guess I'm probably wrong there and seeing it through slashdot-colored glasses.

    13. Re:"Some swish"? by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1

      i.e. every square-enix character, ever. Spikey silver hair optional.

    14. Re:"Some swish"? by Wovel · · Score: 1

      Certainly is nice to see Bishy and Asshat right on the front page at Slashdot. Well done.

    15. Re:"Some swish"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't even know what the zrigging word meant but I sort of glarfed the meaning anyway.

      Bishy. I like it. It's like "frou-frou". bishy bishy bishy bishy bishy.

    16. Re:"Some swish"? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 2, Informative

      He could have used the (somewhat) more mainstream term "Metrosexual" which means roughly the same thing, but is actually meaningful to people who don't spend half their lives watching crappy cartoons from halfway across the world.

      Anyway, the objection that the horde didn't have any "attractive" characters was/is entirely valid. That's why, IMO, the majority of servers have a lot more population on the alliance side than the horde side. Who wants to look at a tauren's ass all day when you can look at a sexy night elf's ass?

    17. Re:"Some swish"? by Ironsides · · Score: 1

      too true, too true. They even give Sora, from Kingdom Hearts, as an example.

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    18. Re:"Some swish"? by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

      "Who wants to look at a tauren's ass all day when you can look at a sexy night elf's ass?"

      I'm a furry, you insensitive clod!

    19. Re:"Some swish"? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Hey, I was looking forward to some hot elf ya-- er, I mean, body mass hurrah!

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    20. Re:"Some swish"? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Hey, don't dis Orlandu (who'd only pass as a bishounen if Sean Connery passed as one), else T.G. Cid will lay waste to you, your town and your entire country. Dunno what he'll do with the rest of the afternoon, though.

      (Once more I thank Squarenix for making FFT unlike most other FF games and I curse them for reversing this design decision with FFTA. Also, I pray to T.G. Cid because he could beat up JHWH and get away with it. Yay for the god-character!)

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    21. Re:"Some swish"? by jtev · · Score: 1

      Back in the day www.slashdot.org didn't work. Which was even more of a barrier, because people would assume all web addresses started with www unless they were in the know.

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  4. Some real problems in this article by ajs · · Score: 1

    There is a presumption that the BEs were being added because players wanted a less physically intimidating race or a less ugly race or both. I disagree. I think they are being added because they were an obvious choice from the existing Warcraft storyline, and the contrast of elves with the magic-adiction-fueled willingness to do anything to restore their place in the world is a fairly decent intro for a new horde race.

    The look is rather arbitrary, but I'm overall pleased that a BE warrior won't look like a string-bean in a trash-can. The armor graphics would look pretty silly on the old model.

    1. Re:Some real problems in this article by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      I think it was at least partially done to give the Horde an attractive race. I suspect that the number of Horde players will increase dramatically with BC. I know I'll be rolling a female blood elf.

    2. Re:Some real problems in this article by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      But that's not an argument for a playable race, its an argument for a story. Playable character arguments need to be examined by the balance that exists. Alliance had, for a very long time, overwhelming numbers. And you can probably guess that nobody was playing as male blood elves. Maybe nobody has the post-modernist tolerance to stomach pretending to be an elf that runs around pretending to be a woman?

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    3. Re:Some real problems in this article by ajs · · Score: 1, Informative
      And you can probably guess that nobody was playing as male blood elves. Maybe nobody has the post-modernist tolerance to stomach pretending to be an elf that runs around pretending to be a woman?


      Two things: first off, there's no such race. This is a race which will first appear in 2008 when the expansion is released. It does not exist at all now, so I'm not sure where you're getting this information about the population distribution of BEs....

      Second, please do not confuse post-modernism with blurring of gender roles. The one may have had some influence on the other, but that's pretty much were the line stops. Post-modernism is, at its core, a reaction to mondernism and its strict abandonment of the stylized themes of previous periods. It has almost nothing to do with any particular social development.
    4. Re:Some real problems in this article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blood Elf characters cannot be Warriors.

    5. Re:Some real problems in this article by glyneth · · Score: 1

      But Blood Elves can't be warriors. So you're SOL there.

    6. Re:Some real problems in this article by TranscendentalAnarch · · Score: 1

      LORE! LOL

    7. Re:Some real problems in this article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You did know that Blood Elves are the only race NOT to have the warrior class? :)

    8. Re:Some real problems in this article by HybridJeff · · Score: 2, Informative
      "Two things: first off, there's no such race. This is a race which will first appear in 2008 when the expansion is released. It does not exist at all now, so I'm not sure where you're getting this information about the population distribution of BEs...."

      FYI The expansion is scheduled for release at the end of January 2007 (the 22nd I believe). If you count the Beta servers (invite only) Blood Elves actually do exist in the game now. THat said, it will still be a few months untill they hit retail.

    9. Re:Some real problems in this article by illegalcortex · · Score: 1

      The poster could have been referring to the population distribution on the beta servers.

    10. Re:Some real problems in this article by rk · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Two things: first off, there's no such race. This is a race which will first appear in 2008 when the expansion is released."

      Did you know that WoW is based on previous Blizzard RTS games?

      Blood Elves in all their glory... introduced in Warcraft III, way back in 2003.

      Nobody gives a damn about history anymore, even in made-up worlds.

    11. Re:Some real problems in this article by Kingrames · · Score: 1

      A very high-ranking Blizzard employee, the VP of some division if I'm not mistaken, stated in an interview that Blood Elves were being added to the horde because there was a HUGE section of the playerbase who refused to play anything but a "pretty" race.

      The addition of Blood Elves to the Horde was absolutely necessary from a design standpoint.

      What I predict happened was that out of the beta testers, nearly 90% decided that they liked the idea of playing a pretty, powerful race and rolled Blood elves, ignoring their own high-level characters.

      Out of the Burning crusade screenshots I've seen, most are of high level characters out exploring, followed immediately by a few blood elf screenshots from the starting area, some Draenei screenshots of the starting area, and then the screenshots end. According to many sources there are a large number of high level blood elves already testing out the new content, and the players didn't get pre-created level 60 blood elves or Draenei. They had to start them from scratch.

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    12. Re:Some real problems in this article by geekoid · · Score: 1

      about 75% of non hard core gamers perfer a pretty race.
      And when you consider hard core gamers make up 25% of the player base it becomes an obvious solution.

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    13. Re:Some real problems in this article by ArcticCelt · · Score: 1
      According to the Warcraft lore, they are supposed to be addicted to magic and nothing else.

      "...Blood Elves revel in the magic that they wield and show little regard for much anything else aside from their beautiful homeland..."
      "...Their hunger for magic is so intense that nothing can satisfy the addiction; a primary aspect of Blood Elven culture is to master their addiction before it consumes them..."

      Seams that Blizzard just gave them a steroid and bodybuilding addiction as well. :)

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    14. Re:Some real problems in this article by ajs · · Score: 1

      That's not relevant. The OP was talking about WoW. Yes, I know the BEs come form the multi-player game.

    15. Re:Some real problems in this article by ajs · · Score: 1

      Yep, 2008 was a typo, thanks.

      And no, I don't count the closed beta, since there's no way to measure the community interest which is what the OP was talking about, and it's probably not representitive anyway.

    16. Re:Some real problems in this article by rk · · Score: 1

      Ah, but, presumably, these games all exist in the same universe. So, the Bood Elves exist in WoW, you just ain't seen 'em yet! :-)

    17. Re:Some real problems in this article by ildon · · Score: 1

      Actually, there are several Vlood Elf NPC's in Azshara you can kill, as well as a few Blood Elf quest givers, notably one for Horde in Stonetalon Peak.

  5. *CLICK* by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 5, Insightful
    *CLICK*

    That's the sound of the WoW playerbase not giving a damn and picking whatever race gives them the best bonuses for their class. While I love Kotaku, this honestly strikes me as one of the whiniest posts I've ever read on there. Boo hoo, Blizzard "nerfed" the character model by making it buffer. While I think its high time Blizzard enable characters to alter more of their physical appearance similar to City of Heroes, I have to wonder...is this really worth posting on the front page of Slashdot?

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    1. Re:*CLICK* by Thansal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      heh. Thank you.

      This post (and the others I have seen complaining about it) just came off as silly. I decided to poke around and found some screen caps of old vs new and the new basicly just looks like a Night Elf male body. This isn't a "bad" thing. This is a "so friken what" thing.

      Combine that with the fact that your race realy is not visible startign in the mid to late game where every one has the same friken armour and the only way to guess someone's race is if they don't have a helmet displayed or if they are a friken dwarf/gnome.

      (I like the work frick.)

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    2. Re:*CLICK* by Fozzyuw · · Score: 1
      Boo hoo, Blizzard "nerfed" the character model by making it buffer.

      Man, if I had some mod points, I'd mod this up as "funny" for this statement! lol

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    3. Re:*CLICK* by ak3ldama · · Score: 1, Insightful

      amen. this is a stupid discussion.

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    4. Re:*CLICK* by fithmo · · Score: 1
      decided to poke around and found some screen caps of old vs new and the new basicly just looks like a Night Elf male body.

      Nice poking; it was in the article.

      Combine that with the fact that your race realy is not visible startign in the mid to late game where every one has the same friken armour and the only way to guess someone's race is if they don't have a helmet displayed or if they are a friken dwarf/gnome.

      Race matters a lot (esp. in pvp) and is easy to discern. Each race is sized/shaped differently and has racial abilities that make all the difference. Knowing you're up against an undead as oppose to a troll, for example, makes fear a bad decision whereas it otherwise would be very useful.

      Remember, in World of Warcraft it's important to be racist and classist.

    5. Re:*CLICK* by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 1

      Oh please. I'm sure there are so many gnome rogues because of the stat bonuses.

      I actually rolled a dwarf hunter instead of night elf specifically because the model was so ridiculous looking. It was obvious then that their deviation from the "elf" archtype was dictated by the sexual insecurities of teenage boys, and that they confirm it by rescinding a more traditional design based on complaints is just plain offensive.

      I mean, who do they think they kidding, anyway? Of those whose self-image reflects either Boromir or Legolas, which group do they think actually resembles the body-type in real life?

    6. Re:*CLICK* by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Gnome rogues are an interesting exception. A lot of people roll gnome rogues due to how friggin hard they are to hit in PVP due to their size. They easily get lost in large crowds.

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    7. Re:*CLICK* by geekoid · · Score: 1

      yet your reading it.

      So what is more stupid:
      the person who is interested in this discussion, or the person who isn't but posts to it anyways?

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    8. Re:*CLICK* by ak3ldama · · Score: 1

      I was just checking to see if others thought the same thing.

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    9. Re:*CLICK* by chillywillyhaha · · Score: 1
      Heh, actually, I think you like the word "frike."

      But seriously, thanks for your post. Although I think it's fairly easy to tell one race from another despite identical or nearly identical armor sets, I totally agree with your statement about how this really is a /shrug issue - or, as you aptly put it, "a 'so friken what' thing."

      I think it's funny that so many people are weighing in with such serious comments regarding what amounts to a silly non-issue. It's not like the new graphic is going to make anyone decide they no longer want to start a blood elf.

      Anyway, thanks again for the post.

    10. Re:*CLICK* by Peter+Eckersley · · Score: 1
      This post (and the others I have seen complaining about it) just came off as silly. I decided to poke around and found some screen caps of old vs new and the new basicly just looks like a Night Elf male body. This isn't a "bad" thing. This is a "so friken what" thing.


      Actually, I thought these complaints (and your dismissive response to them) were pretty interesting. But I'm not a gamer.

  6. If it's not too much trouble by rudeboy1 · · Score: 1

    Some of us were not blocked with a wide-open office connection. Can someone rehost these slanderous pictures in a websense-friendly domain? Thanks a million!

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    1. Re:If it's not too much trouble by rudeboy1 · · Score: 1

      Blessed. BLESSED with a wide open connection. God I have to watch the Freudian slips!

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  7. The hair?!?! by StarWreck · · Score: 1

    I thought they were trying to make them look more masculine. The hair on the new one looks a lot more feminine than the old one to me!

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    1. Re:The hair?!?! by mabinogi · · Score: 1

      you mean the warrior style top knot?
      The only people I've ever seen with hair like that are certainly not the sorts you'd call feminine. At least not to their face.
      If you equate long hair with femininity, then you have larger problems in your life.

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    2. Re:The hair?!?! by StarWreck · · Score: 1

      Its not long hair that I associate with femininity, its pony-tails.

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    3. Re:The hair?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess, 15? or maybe 14?
      Not yet secure enough in your own sexuality to understand that not everyone shares your strange and narrow point of view.

  8. "constituency"? by ObjetDart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's an interesting euphemism for "customers".

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    1. Re:"constituency"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's an interesting euphemism for "customers".

      God forbid that someone realize that transactions are a two way street with a buyer and a seller, and that buyers buy what they want and sellers sell what they want, and if a buyer doesn't want what the seller is selling, they have the right to attempt to convince the seller to sell what they want, just as the seller has the right to convince the buyers to buy.

      I know some posters tend to have a libertarian bent, but this is going just a wee bit too far I think.

  9. One body size does not fit all by snuf23 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I hate the way WoW only has one body shape per race/gender. All of the males are over muscled. I suppose that's fine for a warrior but why should a mage have biceps like Ahnold? The same goes for rogues, you can't make a slender male thief.

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    1. Re:One body size does not fit all by Backwards2 · · Score: 1

      indeed thiefs are supposed to be quick on the feet not bulky dimwits!

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    2. Re:One body size does not fit all by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not to mention the human females all look like contestants for Miss Azeroth. I get a little worried when I see a "Heavy Mithril Breastplate" jiggling when my character runs. What do they make these thing out of? Mithril foil?

    3. Re:One body size does not fit all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a slender male thief - he is forsaken ;-)

    4. Re:One body size does not fit all by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Heavy Mithril Breastplate is made out of Flex-Mithril, brought to you by Dupont.

      "Not to mention the human females all look like contestants for Miss Azeroth."

      to which I reply Thanks, and God bless Blizzard.

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    5. Re:One body size does not fit all by bidule · · Score: 1
      I get a little worried when I see a "Heavy Mithril Breastplate" jiggling when my character runs.
      That's your punishment for rolling an Undead warrior female. Unless you really like them saggy.

      Personnally, I prefer my women without silicon padding. Since I can't find any in WoW, I take Dwarf female. At least their padding is in the same place as real life.
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    6. Re:One body size does not fit all by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "I get a little worried when I see a "Heavy Mithril Breastplate" jiggling when my character runs."

      Considering your handle is "Lord Slepnir" as opposed to "Lady Slepnir," I'm left with the impression that you probably wouldn't be playing as her if it didn't jiggle.

    7. Re:One body size does not fit all by TheWormThatFlies · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because "can walk through a door without turning sideways" = "girly man", evidently. Aaah, comicbook aesthetics. :/ The original model wasn't buff enough? Good grief; it looks nothing like an elf -- the only way you can tell what it's supposed to be is that the ears are pointed.

      I don't play any MMORPGs, so I don't really have anything to complain about, except the principle of the thing. If I did play, I would like to have a character which is aesthetically pleasing to me. It would be nice if at least one race or class did not have men with huge muscles and women with ginormous cleavage. There are so many character types to choose from -- why do they all have to look the same? Surely there is room to have something for all tastes.

    8. Re:One body size does not fit all by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 1

      I used to play as her. I rolled a female character to creep out my finace. I abandoned that character about a year ago. I got a little sick of creepy gnomes that would /pinch and /flirt when I was on the subway. An interesting mirror to see the world through, to say the least.

  10. Changing content based on customer feedback? by bunions · · Score: 2, Funny

    THOSE BASTARDS!

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    1. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Haven't you heard?! Make love, not Warcraft! :P

    2. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Funny

      Make love, not Warcraft! :P

      Hmmm, "Lovecraft" a new MMORPG where you build a custom avatar (male, female, andro, or herma), dress it from our selection of fashionable apparel, and then have to build up your sexual prowess and skill by boinking everyone else and NPCs. I see a new market. Now if we can just keep it from being populated with Cthulu fans I can make a mint.

    3. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Morphine007 · · Score: 1

      Leisure suit Larry: Get an MMO HO
      There... now you'll make a mint :-)

    4. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, the South Park people will have to come out with an episode called, "Make War, Not Lovecraft".

    5. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Das+Modell · · Score: 1

      How about making it a Cthulhu game where you have sex with people and... stuff. Should be pleasantly terrifying and disturbing.

    6. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      How about making it a Cthulhu game where you have sex with people and... stuff. Should be pleasantly terrifying and disturbing.

      Do you know anyone who can make good 3D models with lots of writhing tentacles? Hmm, I don't either. :)

    7. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by jackbird · · Score: 1

      maybe this guy.

    8. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Dexx · · Score: 2, Funny

      I kept thinking that sentence had to end with ".. and see them devoured by unspeakable horrors from beyond."

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    9. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Heh, the last thing I expected was someone to dig up a person who models tentacled things. Very cool. You've raised my expectations for the Slashdot crowd.

    10. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Why keep out the Cthulu fans? Writhing tentacles will draw in that large Hentai market..

    11. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by phyrebyrd · · Score: 1

      Sounds like YADSG (Yet Another Dumb Sims Game): "The Sims: Hot & Wyld"

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    12. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Acer500 · · Score: 1

      Definitely.. cool.. and disturbing. Great link anyways, I didn't know of the site.

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    13. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Carl+Drougge · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you would also be interested in the alt.sex.cthulhu newsgroup? (Not sure if it still exists.)

    14. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by cmburns69 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you've been playing second life

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    15. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like Second-Life to me.

    16. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PorkCraft.

    17. Re:Changing content based on customer feedback? by BetterThanCaesar · · Score: 2, Funny

      You've better look out for my slutty undead mage, she'll get you with her burning ring of fire. And it burns burns burns...

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  11. If you ask me... by thebdj · · Score: 1

    They are no worse then the Night Elves. Personally, I do not find it that big of a deal. I personally liked the fact that the Horde were "uglier" or more "brutish." I always thought it meant we had more players who cared less about character aesthetics and more about substance. Of course, I do not play anymore, so the attitude might have changed greatly. Personally, I liked playing what amounted to a bull walking upright...

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    1. Re:If you ask me... by chrismcdirty · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When I played, it always seemed that the Horde were the adolescents who just wanted to play as a bad guy, all the while deriding the Alliance for choosing characters who look pretty. And that was the attitude from day -14 or so. Personally, I didn't care, as long as the stats were there for the class I chose.

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    2. Re:If you ask me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you ask me, I think that effiminent male models would have continued that trend.
      There's a lot of small minded people, the same who think non-human automatically equals evil, who are afraid of "pretty" males as they might represent homosexuality.

      Making the blood elves a beefy human with pointy ears is only giving those from alliance who simple *have* to play human/night elf and in.

      I think this is a really pathetic copout that ignores their own canon in character design. Addicts aren't beefy people. Unless they're on steroids, and then that's when they are using. These blood elves are meant to be suffering withdrawls when they aren't sucking down a stream of magic.

    3. Re:If you ask me... by Alcari · · Score: 1

      They're called Tauren

      (and i don't even play WoW)

    4. Re:If you ask me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i know wtf they are...but whatever, i do not expect the slashdot crowd to get a damn thing i say. the nuances of language, like sarcasm and irony are lost on most of you.

  12. I'd rather have a choice by LocoMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know, but one of the things I'd like to see improved in WoW is the "everyone has the same body type" thing, maybe sliders for how thin/muscular/fat/tall/short you want someone (with limits, of course, so that humans are always taller than dwarves, for example).

    I just think it would help set characters apart from everyone else, so you could play (for example) a fat priest like friar tuck on Robin Hood, or a thin tall albino guy like Elric of Melniboné. No idea how hard would it be to implement that, though. I'm still rather new to the game, probably would be problems scaling the armor that are actual models (instead of just different textures) when they're on the characters.

    1. Re:I'd rather have a choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeing how most other MMOs (and 3D games in general) accomplished this years ago... No, its not too difficult.

    2. Re:I'd rather have a choice by Dysproxia · · Score: 1
      humans are always taller than dwarves

      Well that sounded a little discriminating =P

    3. Re:I'd rather have a choice by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 1

      Love will drive you insane.

      Roll d20 for a SAN check.

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    4. Re:I'd rather have a choice by wrackedmind · · Score: 1

      As far as I have seen all the armor scales to both the horde and the alliance. The textures are already not awesome in quality (pretty good for the size of the game though) it does not seem unreasonable that they could just widen them some for the character width.

    5. Re:I'd rather have a choice by greenegg77 · · Score: 1

      I don't know, but one of the things I'd like to see improved in WoW is the "everyone has the same body type" thing, maybe sliders for how thin/muscular/fat/tall/short you want someone (with limits, of course, so that humans are always taller than dwarves, for example).

      From the Character FAQ at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/characters .html

      Can you tell us more about what options are customizable on your character when you create it? We don't want to overwhelm players with too many choices when they start off. That's why we are concentrating on features that players will notice right away. This includes things like hair style, hair color, skin color, and facial features. Players can of course also get to select their race, gender, and class. The remaining elements of character customization will be done in-game, through the choices they make in the gear they wear and the many talents they can learn.

      Can players customize the height & weight of their characters?
      Height and weight is not changeable due to how it affects character animations and items on the character. We wanted to concentrate on making each race's animations distinct and special, which meant working on unique models and not allowing changing of height and weight. If we allowed that, then the result would be wonky-looking or distorted movement when the animations were applied to an inappropriately sized model.

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    6. Re:I'd rather have a choice by illegalcortex · · Score: 1

      It's an okay explanation, but very shortsighted. The first one says "we are concentrating on features that players will notice right away". Except since there are such a limited combination of features, there are already scads of each combination running around, so you don't notice any of them. The second one seems to be a bit of a copout. With the millions they rake in from this game, couldn't they develop a modelling system that would let the animations work on customized models? Again, they say these animations are geared towards "distinct and special." But since everyone of that type does the same animation, they are exactly NOT distinct and special.

    7. Re:I'd rather have a choice by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I agree.
      Why can the scale the armor? they already do that depending on race.

      This reeks of a poor software design choice come back to bite them in the ass.

      They could even do, say four sizes of each race.

      When a competitor shows up and starts taking there player base, there tune will change. By then it will be too late.

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    8. Re:I'd rather have a choice by illegalcortex · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think I've heard them mention that they DO maintain a different set of armor for each combination of race/gender. Don't have a source for that, unfortunately.

  13. you have to be kidding me by Edgewize · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a non-story. And it's rather insulting that it made it ANYWHERE let alone a major news/blog/whatever site. Who is the source? Oh, that's right, some random "offended" person at http://gaygamer.net/index.php?id=1632 who is complaining that the team behind a currently-in-production game made an art decision.

    1. Re:you have to be kidding me by geekoid · · Score: 1

      the point is, it was made as an art decsion, it was made because other people whined.

      Interesting, if you look at the number of whiners the largest of portion of them are Horde.
      Also, almost all horde complaints get addressed, while alliance complaints are seldom addressed.

      Not that it means anything, I jst find it interesting.

      I don't really care, because nothing is sexier then a gnome.
      go gnome, go gnome, it's your birth day...

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    2. Re:you have to be kidding me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats because the GM/Blizzard employees are love the horde more than allies.. its so obvious

  14. Man... by David+Munch · · Score: 1

    I so expected something along the lines of "The bloodelves are now all male homosexuals!" when I read that headline..

    Especially since TFA has its source at gaygamer.com... O_o

    1. Re:Man... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "The bloodelves are now all male homosexuals!"

      now your just being redundant.

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  15. Dear Blizzard, by chowdy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I feel that the female blood elves wear far too much clothing. This expresses an extreme imbalance in the WoW gameplay. It is completely unfair that male night elves may go topless, while female night elves cannot. This imbalance in gameplay must be addressed, or else i will cancel my subscription.

    Sincerely,
    Whiny Blizzard Customer

  16. Family Guy said it best with... by eboot · · Score: 1

    Cut. Print. Gay.

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  17. Arm diameter is a measure of masculinity? by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    So I guess Bruce Lee was queer then, because he's skinny, right? How retarded. If they put the male elf in a ball gown, then fine, change it to some pants or whatever. If they feel like any arm diameter beneath 25" scale is too effeminate, I'm sure there are plenty of UFC fighters who are smaller than that, who happily contest otherwise, on a regular basis, for money, in the ring.

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    1. Re:Arm diameter is a measure of masculinity? by ildon · · Score: 1

      The arms are actually pretty much identical. The major change was to the chest/abdomen.

  18. ...but but... by _14k4 · · Score: 1

    Every male already plays as a Human female, anyway...

    1. Re:...but but... by Backwards2 · · Score: 1

      or Night elf

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  19. SWG had a nice system by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I thought that Star Wars Galaxies had the best customization I've seen. WoW is a bunch of the same looking people wandering around wearing similar clothing.

    SWG had a much more diverse feel.

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    1. Re:SWG had a nice system by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should see City of Villains/Heroes. The charater customization allows you to change nearly everything including nose size, jaw size, and costumes. You can also unlock multiple costume slots so your character can have multiple looks for different moods or occasions.

    2. Re:SWG had a nice system by Burlap · · Score: 1

      play CoH/V if you want really diverse charcter appearance.

    3. Re:SWG had a nice system by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      SWG actually had more facial modifiers than CoH/CoV (and yes I've played CoH recently so I'm aware they updated it). One thing that SWG allowed you to do was make player characters that were overweight. I know CoH could do this since they have fat NPCs, but as far as I can tell there is no way to make a fat hero.

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    4. Re:SWG had a nice system by tourvil · · Score: 4, Insightful
      SWG had a much more diverse feel.

      Yes it did. It also lagged all to hell when you were in a slightly populated area. I wish WoW was more customizable too, but I think they did that on purpose to reduce the amount of character info that needed to be passed around to other players.
    5. Re:SWG had a nice system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hear! Hear! CoH/CoV has IMO, the best character creation system in MMOs currently on the market.
      btw the beta for Vanguard:SOH has a similar system of sliders to adjust most any imaginable body part size (the ones that are visible through clothing :p ) and yes, there is indeed a breast slider for female characters.

    6. Re:SWG had a nice system by Fozzyuw · · Score: 1

      WoW doesn't like fat people... look at what they did with the Ogres not that long ago!

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    7. Re:SWG had a nice system by Cederic · · Score: 1


      I still love the AO approach. Everybody dressed differently, and everyone carried around a set of social clothing (or 7. hey, my cute girly character _needed_ three styles of sunglasses and four chique dresses!)

    8. Re:SWG had a nice system by geekoid · · Score: 1

      City of Heros is much better.

      And I don't want any game to follow SWG in any way.

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    9. Re:SWG had a nice system by Moby+Cock · · Score: 1

      I never played SWG. Was its cstomization better than City or Heroes? I found the CoH customization to be pretty damned robust.

    10. Re:SWG had a nice system by kitofers · · Score: 0

      Like, ohmygod, 10 extra bytes per toon?

  20. More interesting topic. by Deagol · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Who's the nip in the jumpsuit in the iPod advert? Looks very 70's. :)

    (WTF? - that page makes my browser slow to a crawl, almost as bad as myspace.)

  21. femme? by illegalcortex · · Score: 4, Informative

    It just goes to show how superheroically drawn the characters are drawn when the "femme" version is more muscular than most men in the real world. I know I wish I had pecs and biceps like that... Couple more before/after pics here.

    I REALLY wish wow had better options for customizing the build/appearance of the players. I get so tired of seeing the same old faces and same old bodies. But I guess there's just no money in it.

    1. Re:femme? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      well wishing hasn't work, how about, oh I don't know, lifting some weight maybe? with a professionable trainer?

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    2. Re:femme? by illegalcortex · · Score: 1

      Even when I worked out regularly, I never had a physique like that. Nor do most people who don't make their #1 priority their muscles. Which was my entire point. Now crawl back under your bridge.

    3. Re:femme? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I did have a point, and it wasn't a troll.

      My point(Which is my fault for not making properly) is that you don't really wish you had a body like that, or getting a body like that would be your #1 priority.

      Personally, I don't care what you look like. Wierdly, even though I don't know you, I hope you are happy with the body you have.

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    4. Re:femme? by illegalcortex · · Score: 1

      I don't think you understand what this word "wish" means. I wish I had a million dollars. I don't. Yes, I am happy with the amount of money I have. I wish I had a nice fancy car. I don't. But I don't get bent out of shape about that, either. There are costs associated with actually getting these things. For example, I wish I was buff, but am not willing to spend a significant portion of my life to achieve and maintain said buffness when that time could be spent on other activities that will provide me with more overall satisfaction. Second example, I wish I had a million dollars, but I'm not willing to spend a significant portion of my life to get this money (legall or illegally).

      Much like I wish I had a machine with several gigs of RAM and some badass processors, as it would help me with a problem I am working on. However, it's just not worth it overall.

      If I can't wish for these things, what's the point of having a word like "wish" in the first place? I could possibly understand your response if I had said "want". While they have very similar meanings, "want" usually implies a stronger need and an inclination to pursue this need. Like the phrase "how much do you want it?".

    5. Re:femme? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I guess it's a personality thing. If I 'wish' for something, I make an effort for it to happen.

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    6. Re:femme? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, just you using a word to mean something different.

  22. Delay caused by this? :P by antdude · · Score: 1

    So, that is why the expansion was delayed until 2007! Just to fix up the male Blood Elves. [grin]

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    1. Re:Delay caused by this? :P by geekoid · · Score: 1

      COuld very well be.. From what I gather The would have to change every animation applicable to them, like clothes, armor, weapons, etc.

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  23. *rips off yellow tank top* by BeeBeard · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Let me tell ya something...brother...the Hulkster doesn't appreciate his likeness being used without permission. Blizzard, I'm calling you out right now. You hear me? You and me, in the ring, Smackdown..."

    1. Re:*rips off yellow tank top* by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      OK Hulk, don't forget your cane...

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  24. Naah! by psavo · · Score: 0

    You're missing the point, they're bloody american elves!

    Take it easy on the burgers, boys, willya?

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  25. The player should be able to tweak the body type by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    right down to the beer-gut. Hell yeah... that's customization.

  26. It's fun to stay at the... by QuantaStarFire · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow. I can totally see these new Blood Elves spending all their time in the woods, lifting trees, spotting each other, getting into the shower together after a long workout and having hot, sweaty se--um, yeah.

    You gotta feel sorry for the Blood Elf women though; they can look, they can dream, but they know in their hearts that it can never be. To make things worse, they don't have the nice human gentlemen callers to fall back on; that ship sailed more than 4 years ago.

    1. Re:It's fun to stay at the... by eraserewind · · Score: 1

      No prizes for guessing why Elf children are so rare these days.

    2. Re:It's fun to stay at the... by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      You gotta feel sorry for the Blood Elf women though; they can look, they can dream...

      Why do you think they joined the Horde?
      I hear that once you go Tauren, you never go back.

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  27. Two words follow: by Sir+Unimaginative · · Score: 1

    Procedural Generation.

    They no longer have any excuse.

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    1. Re:Two words follow: by WilliamSChips · · Score: 0

      Procedural Generation is cool, but it's even slower. I've played kkrieger and it was very jumpy.

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    2. Re:Two words follow: by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Sure they do. The engine doesn't support procedural generation.

      It's very rare that an established game makes that drastic a change to their engine. It's happened twice that I know of, and not really as drastic as that. EQL for the Luclin expansion, and DAoC for the second expansion (I think). Both times it was an engine upgrade, but nothing so advanced as procedural generation was implemented.

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  28. Re-TAH-ded..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Oh dear God...

    Has SlashDot actually run out of newsworthy things to post?! The only thing less newsworthy than this pointless article is worrying about the weather on the Moon.

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  29. Nah, go for the HP fans, it'll be a hoot! by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmmm, "Lovecraft" a new MMORPG where you build a custom avatar (male, female, andro, or herma), dress it from our selection of fashionable apparel...

    ...and then blow your first d100 roll and have your new character run screaming into the night to be devoured in a pit of Dark Young.

    Thanks for playing!

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    rediculous.
  30. I wish I cared, really. by CouchP · · Score: 1

    OMG!

  31. This is on the front page? by Tim+C · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Male fantasy character stupidly over-muscled, film at 11.

    -or-

    Trivial aspect of cult game tweaked, hardcore fans up in arms, continue paying monthly fees.

    From the "who gives a shit?" department.

    1. Re:This is on the front page? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Trivial aspect of cult game tweaked, hardcore fans up in arms, continue paying monthly fees.

      I think you answered your own question.

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  32. I'd rather be playing hello kitty island adventure by Kodack · · Score: 1

    Forget those guys. I'd rather be playing hello kitty island adventures.

  33. Blizz's next answer to the gender imbalance by StreetStealth · · Score: 1

    February 12, 2007

    As more ripped-looking male elves have not tilted the highly female-favored Night Elf and Blood Elf populations, Blizzard is now announcing a visual change to the female elf models and textures, adding a perceived 60 pounds of body weight.

    Players have quickly labeled this the "sexy-nerf."

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  34. Oh Lord by zizzo · · Score: 1

    I think I speak for everyone when I say "GET A LIFE!"

  35. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    your constituency is a bunch of capslock-riding asshats


    I laughed out loud. I really did.

  36. In Other News... by dthx1138 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Valve announced today that the wood texture on the AK-47 in Counterstrike will be made slightly darker.

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    1. Re:In Other News... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I see you point, but what if the change the color to orange because a group of people pressured them?

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  37. 3 words: "Get a life" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Getting upset over this is just absurd.

  38. Irony by geekoid · · Score: 1

    They wil most likely be casters, which means they will be wearing ball gowns consistantly.

    And the porportions are based on fantasy, not reality. So withing this contect, a 25" are diameter is girly.

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  39. Blizzard is childish by DJ_Duffy · · Score: 1

    Way to be a child Blizzard. Just because you guys are not comfortable with your own sexuality, doesn't mean you have to compensate for it in your video game. Act your age!

    1. Re:Blizzard is childish by blackcoot · · Score: 1

      i really don't think that blizzard cares about anything beyond the bottom line. which, in this case, means caving in to a bunch of insecure (and probably heterosexually challenged) idiots on the premise that the loud jerks are the people you should be listening to to generate more sales.

  40. I had the fortunate circumstance by geekoid · · Score: 1

    that allowde me to get a glimpse of the stats Blizzard tracks.

    75% of all hard core gamers play horde

    this means there is a huge skill imbalance between the two factions.

    They determined that more casual gamers chose allience for the looks. Hence the addition of a 'pretty' race.

    I would love to analoze all of Blizards data. I bet there is a lot of information just waiting to get out.

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    1. Re:I had the fortunate circumstance by amirl · · Score: 1

      Can you confirm this data somehow?

      Anyway, how do you define "hard core gamers"?
      By age? By the time they spend gaming?

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  41. We interrupt this program... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
    ...with a news bulletin!!!

    Kotaku reader gets girlfriend!!!

    One-eyed python rumoured to have got "pumped up"!!!

    More news at eleven!!!

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  42. So? by lorg · · Score: 1

    So? Who cares? I'm making a female bloodelf paladin anyway.

    1. Re:So? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
      Not in AD&D you're bloody well not matey!

      You'll be a bloody round-eared, gut-bucketed, short-lived human and like it!

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    2. Re:So? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      So you are going to play in 'Easy' mode then?

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  43. Oh shiii by BlindFate · · Score: 1

    There were male blood elves?

  44. There's no pleasing some people. by Chardish · · Score: 1

    Company ignores customer complaint: "They're not listening to their player base!"
    Company responds to and rectifies customer complaint: "They don't have spines! They're caving to the masses!"

    1. Re:There's no pleasing some people. by Shados · · Score: 1

      Thats unavoidable, unfortunately. The vocal majority is rarely the majority. So people who complain tends not to state what people in general wants...so you either make the loud mouths happy, or the quiet majority...but you won't get both. Unfortunately, both have roughly the same amount of power, even though their is a huge numerical imbalance :(

  45. Perhaps it's been done for a reason? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 2, Funny

    To match the "pumped-up" right arms of all the teenage male Kotaku reading WoW players?

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  46. Want to see a Twig? by Bryansix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Look at the Dark Elves in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. My character is like a twig. He has less muscle mass then me in real life and that is saying something.

  47. Elves are wimpy? Legolas is gonna kick yer ass! by K8Fan · · Score: 1
    When I think elves I think paragons of masculinity.

    Hard to believe that I'm the only Slashdot reader who saw a series of films called "The Lord of the Rings".

    Legolas the Elf was probably the #1 badass in those films.

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    1. Re:Elves are wimpy? Legolas is gonna kick yer ass! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      yes, but he was not the paragon of masculinity.

      there is a difference.

      he was probably the paragon of elfulinity.

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    2. Re:Elves are wimpy? Legolas is gonna kick yer ass! by K8Fan · · Score: 1

      I think a lot of guys just have a problem with the idea that a skinny guy with perfect hair could kick their ass up one side of Rivendell and down the other.

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    3. Re:Elves are wimpy? Legolas is gonna kick yer ass! by geekoid · · Score: 1

      pffftt, I did that before lunch.

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  48. Interestingly... by Anonymous+Cumshot · · Score: 1

    the Blood Elves' frailty was used (in part) to justify why Blood Elf characters could not play as Warriors (See WoWWiki for further details). Now that they're being "pumped up" to look stronger, maybe Blizzard revert their class-restrictions and make it possible for players to roll Blood Elf Warriors again..

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  49. From TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "They just look like regular humans now."

    If I looked like that I'd see a fuckin doctor, pronto.

  50. My elf... by dangitman · · Score: 1
    ... is a hermaphrodite.

    You. Insensitive. Clods!

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  51. That's why I play female by Gorimek · · Score: 1

    The male humans look far too much like roided up linebackers.

    1. Re:That's why I play female by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      Agreed and most of the faces look like they are suffering from extremely uncomfortable constipation.

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  52. My Blood Elf's penis is too small! by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

    What's really going to piss off a lot of Warcraft fans is that the new elves look nothing like the old elves, and the Blood Elves aren't new to World of Warcraft. In Warcraft III, they did, in fact, look like pansies.

    But they were totally badass anyway. I can't believe people are so insecure about their badassery that they were concerned with the muscles of their online avatars.

  53. Pathetic. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    Man, it's pathetic that Blizzard bowed to all the players concerned about the sizes of their e-peens. In fact, I'm surprised the change was demanded at all given the popularity of Japanese games and their effeminate male characters.

    And regardless, looking at that screenshot I feel the original version had some character and certainly was elf-like. The new one looks like a generic human with long ears. This just goes to show why so many games are the same old generic crap.

  54. It is so abvious by geekoid · · Score: 0

    The single largest group of players is lower middle aged women(seriously)
    Women who have been married to someone who has become less like the adonis gods they were in college.

    Clearly they are the group the has the time and motive to complain about this...

    Or maybe it was a request by some of the moms of the dev team.

    Mom: Deary, your father has been less then.....functional.
    Developer: MOM!
    Mom: I was just wondering if you could muscle up those blodd elves?
    Developer: Sure, but never mention dads lack of...functionality to me again....ever.

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  55. Blizzard is a child by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1
    Act your age!


    Blizzard Entertainment, a division of Vivendi Games, was founded in 1991 under the name Silicon & Synapse by Allen Adham...


    Yeah, this sounds like about the maturity level one would expect from a 15-year-old.

    Also, the phrase "capslock-riding asshats" is great. I'm going to use that one at every possible opportunity today.
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  56. What warcraft REALLY needs by geekoid · · Score: 1

    is a way to check your in game post from gmail.

    Man, I'm dying to know if I sold that stuff on auction!

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  57. sighs.. by binarybum · · Score: 1

    this is why I never sign on to slashdot in public when there is the chance that someone might look over my shoulder.

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  58. Am I the only person... by slriv · · Score: 1

    That thinks this constant stream of blizzard/wow news is getting a little annoying on slashdot???

    Granted, I've played and occaisionally play wow today, but when at work and when on slashdot, I'm not really that interested in that game. Maybe I'm just old or something.

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  59. Most likely a technical decision. by Kaboom13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real reason behind this probably has little to do with player demands. Wow has always been plagued with horrible clipping and armor fitting problems. Many of the issues are still around from release. Most likely Blizz realized geting the male armor models to fit the extremely skinny blood elves correctly was going to be difficult. Male BE are now almost identical to male Night elves. I actually support the change, however, because Warcraft elves (before and after their change to blood elves) were thinner then normal humans but never the impossibly thin elves of some fantasy worlds. The new elves look a lot more like the elves in warcraft 3 imo.

  60. Bishy by NekoXP · · Score: 0, Troll

    The guy is obviously a roaring fag who is looking for a cause to rant about; how his whiney lil subset of the larger gay community (which includes me :) needs to feel oppressed by everything.

    Bishy? I mean.. jeez. That's not a word I would use in an article. He could have at least used the real Japanese word and not his abbreviation :)

    1. Re:Bishy by NekoXP · · Score: 0, Troll

      Even worse! Bloody militant lesbians!?

  61. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  62. In Soviet Russia... by TheCybernator · · Score: 1

    A Doctor a day, keeps the 'Apple' away!!

  63. wait wait wait... by Greg.Rodden · · Score: 1

    Who cares?

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  64. Gnomies by splutty · · Score: 1
    if they don't have a helmet displayed or if they are a friken dwarf/gnome.


    And you will find out that when you're facing off (or possibly facing over) a gnome, a codpiece might have been a very good idea after all.

    Weebles the gnome.
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  65. "Getting Pumped"? by splutty · · Score: 1

    Was I the only one that thought: Aha! They now made elves really gay characters! Or is that just me and my totally sick and disturbed mind?

    Splut.

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  66. the Point by SuisSuwani · · Score: 1

    Everyone who is bitching about this article making the front page needs to look at the sheer volume of replies to it. Obviously all this Blizz/WOW squabbling is something that people want to read about. After all isn't that the point of slashdot? To, through a community of readers, display the articles that are, for lack of a better word, "hot" at the moment.

  67. Brings new meaning to "twink" by code_nerd · · Score: 1

    Looks like the gamer term "twink" (c.f. the urban dictionary, definition #1)and the porn term "twink" (same link, def #2) are set to converge :)

    The tacit homophobia behind this change is sad, but the irony of the change making the characters possibly even more gay-coded is delicious. Possibly even fabulous.

  68. Sad... by JavaLord · · Score: 1

    From the article: WoW Overwhelmed By Homophobes, Make Blood Elves Less "Feminine" So, how is making male characters look more male than female is somehow homophobic?