Was it a new computer or a new install (with light use, "new" in this case could mean a decent while).
On a new install, Vista will be analysing usage statistics and precaching stuff for the first few hours (and by first few hours, I mean several days). If used heavily (but always doing the same stuff), it takes 2-4 days, but if only used 1-2 hours a day doing random stuff, it can take a very, very long time. During that time, the hard drive will be going totally insane. Once its done, you'll never hear it again.
On this computer, which has a 10000 rpm raptor hard drive (read: incredibly noisy), it was driving me insane at first. Seriously wouldn't stop. After a while, it went away, and now the system is zippy. (I'm forced to use XP at work now that I'm used to Vista... and it is truly unbearable. However it -is- made worse because it has that garbage that is AVG installed on it... AVG is a plague on Vista, but it still isn't all that great on XP)
I agree about Vista being unfit for Eee PCs... but being slow? Certainly not since SP1... booting? It boots the same as XP (-unless- you have something like Norton, McAfee, AVG, etc installed), and why would you anyway? (aside once a month for updates)? Vista's sleep mode is amazing. I only ever reboot for the monthly system updates, and thats it.
What the hell are you doing on that machine anyway? I had a developer machine that was running SQL Server and VS2008 (multiple instances) at all time on top of all the other crap I needed for work, and I never hit swap on 1 gig. Memory was already fred way before that ever happened (well, unless doing something like compiling a huge C++ codebase or whatever).
If you had one of the stupid antivirus that say that they are Vista compatible but arent (McAfee, Norton, AVG...yes, AVG), then I'd understand, but...
Time is really the only answer. And while its not politicaly correct for a man to complain about sexism, I don't know if you've ever heard of how it is for male elementary teachers in certain areas? Same thing you're describing, but in reverse (and switch sexual harassment for just plain ol bitching harassment).
The issue isn't fundamentaly with women in science, or anything... its just an issue with our society and predefined roles. When parents stop (only) giving the little girl her barbies and the little boy his kid chemistry kit, things will change.
Its the whole Devil May Cry 4 shitstorm all over again, just amplified by an order of magnitude. When DMC4 was announced and later came out for the 360, PS3 fanboys were rating the 360 version down, flaming the 360 forums, pushing how superior the game would be on a PS3 controler, etc etc etc.
360 fanboys aren't a good thing either, but PS3 ones are simply of another level. (Please note I have neither a PS3 or a 360, so this is a semi-impartial point of view).
Reading the 360 FF13 board right now is totally amusing.
err, Vista Ultimate is capped at -128- gigs of RAM, thank you very much. And even if it was capped at 8, it would be enough for a 4 gigs + this card setup.
In some games if you have a 1680x1050 monitor (fairly standard for 20-22 inch 16:9 LCDs), and you crank up texture quality and antialiasing up the wazoo, your card's memory will be the bottleneck. It isn't -too- common, but i've been bit a few times. 1 gig and up is overkill unless you have one heck of a monitor setup, however (for now).
Well, there's the little bit about "size" in the equation. You'll never be able to achieve the efficiency of a building-sized powerplan ran and maintained by engineers, with tons of various technologies to increase efficiency in a little thingy that can fit a 4 passenger car. Weight counts too, the power plan is not -carrying itself-, so it can be as heavy as needs be to work all that technology. It will also be better maintained, as opposed to the boogie owned by some 16 years old student who can't be bothered to care.
All that makes it so realisticaly, a car will not be as efficient as a powerplan until a -major- technological revolution comes in. Also, a much higher percentage of the power on the grid is clean(er). Small example, but where I live, 100% of the electricity that comes from the outlet comes from hydro. Only a few douzen million people on that particular piece of the grid, but a few douzen million people not using fossil fuel made energy from their car is a start.
And again, if eventually there IS a technology to produce 100% clean energy... it will be used by power plants before it is used by cars (not many cars running on solar/wind/hydro/nuclear now, is there?). It -is- an interim solution. One that makes it easier to move to the real solution. Considering the limitations of a car, the only thing that will ever be able to make a car fully clean is either A) Capacitors plug-in on a fully green grid (rofl, thats going to happen....::cough::), or nuclear powered cars.
A) is never happening, and B) will happen after a die. This can be done within my lifetime while we wait for B), so lets go for it.
interestingly, the UAC prompt is shown out of context. That is, it cannot (at least in theory:) ) but controled by anything but the actual input devices (not sure about remote desktop though). So a program -cannot- click on the buttons. While the UAC prompt is up, programs are not allowed to control the mouse or automate keyboard inputs, for example.
You totally missed the point. A) The grid is way, way, -way- more efficient than tiny little car engines. B) You can gradually change the grid's backend a lot more easily than you can change the habits of hundreds of millions people.
No, you're right, I'm not aware of it. By the way, you do realise that as a general rule,.NET positions are almost totally from what you call "conservative, off the net job agencies/headhunters, very traditional positions", yes? And has been for years? The demand for php/mysql devs for the last 4 years is nothing special. -All- web development related positions (and software development positions in general) have been skyrocketing since the end of the last IT job crash.
I'm a consultant, and now exclusively a.NET one, but that is recent. And when I was advertising myself as php/java/.net developer (since I worked several years in all 3), the ratio of opportunity offers was about 10:1 in favor of.NET compared to PHP, with Java being close (to.NET, though declining), and the two douzen or so agencies (both small and large) I deal with seemed to all agree to seeing the same thing.
Result varies from regions to regions, and obviously countries to countries, but if you're ever -really- bored, try it for kicks, and post a fake resume (well made) for a senior.NET dev/architect with business intelligence experience somewhere visible enough. You're going to want to unplug the phone within 48 hours.
I've seen a lot asp.net mess, don't get me wrong. The ASP.NET community is horrible. As a general, a so called "senior" asp.net developer is on par with a low end intermediate of any of the other environments, so obviously applications made in asp.net tend to be a total mess.
I actually used to be a PHP dev, a while back, and perl before that. They were fine, in their time. Simply put, as the world evolves, so does the technologies, languages, and especially the ecosystems around them. Some are replaced with things better designed for the present, like perl and php, others are made niche in their fields, such as assembly/C/C++ (admitedly, the later is a pretty big niche, mind you, hehe).
In the same way, java is going to slowly become its own niche (the new COBOL), and asp.net is going to be replaced, caving in under its attempts at backward compatibilities. When that happens, a bunch of people who don't like to face reality will be claiming how it is still just as good as new ecosystem XYZ (notice I'm speaking of ecosystem... a language is just a language, unless it falls in a distinct category to solve a specific problem, like functional languages), when it is simply lacking in term of compatibility with more modern mindsets and concepts, and takes 3 times the effort to get the same stuff done.
Perl in its own niche (non-web scripting) has only rarely found itself competing against anything (powershell eventually maybe? But thats windows only, and not much script administration was done in the windows world until semi-recently). PHP however, doesn't have a billion uses aside web development.
Thus my point, and a question at the same time: Why exactly would an ASP.NET developer, who can make 80k+ a year at intermediate level and is probably juggling with douzens of businesses hammering them with job opportunities at any given time (and much, much more than that as they climb up the ladder, on top of having all the doors open for.NET development, Sharepoint, enterprise integration, etc, not limited to web dev with the same experience), and who actually like it, want to learn something with less future opportunities? Something complementary, or something that will open greater doors in the future, sure, why not, but why something that is slowly (but surely) phasing out into a niche?
The parent of my previous post seemed to think it was people who don't want to learn anything new. Its not it, its just a matter of what new stuff do you want to learn. Don't hear many Java or C++ dev too keen on learning Cobol or VB6 now, do you?
as an asp.net programmer, I'll tell you that if I get offered a non-ASP.NET job (assuming I don't get hit with a huge pay cut for not having as much experience in another language), I'll happily learn anything, as long as its not PERL/PHP (perl is sweet, but not for web development).
After you go RoR/ASP.NET/Java/Whatever, you seriously don't want to go back (there are exceptions of course, many many on this site, but yeah). Whenever I get asked if, even as part of a primary asp.net job, I'd want to do some PHP on the side, my answer is systematically "Anything BUT php". And with the totally -insane- demand for asp.net devs right now, there's literally no reason for me to do things otherwise.
I still keep my skillset a bit broader for the inevitable ASP.NET crash, but php is just a no no, and 99% of the asp.net devs I know feel that way. It isn't so much not wanting to learn something else, but asp.net/java get the job done, so if I'm going to learn something new, it has to be a step forward... Python, Ruby, stuff like Flex, etc, fits the bill of at least being as good (if not better), but I'm not going backward, no thank you.
You're right, it doesn't. Howewever, like XHTML, OOXML has a transitional format part of the ISO specs. Office doesn't implement that format, but it is virtually 3 tags away from it (its stuff like 0/1 instead of true/false in attributes, and other simple junk like that which had to be changed because of the last batch of recommendations for the ISO standard stuff).
So roll up a minimalistic patch, backward compatibility would be painfully simple to get, auto-convert any document that is being modified, and you're good to go until they implement the full thing.
i know it shouldn't be that way but...the world isn't as it should be. If someone wants to start encrypting anything and everything, including legitimate usages without heavily sensitive information (which is fine and dandy and helps privacy, so its all good and fine), don't start associating it with people who DO have something to hide.
TPB is doing a huge disservice now. The idiots up there will automatically be like "SEE SEE SEE ?!?!?! Encryption == Piracy, pirates download porn, porn == child porn, think of the children, ban free usage of encryption!!" And then we'll be -worse- off than we are now.
Clean up your act first, THEN advocate encryption, and all will be well.
I know the EULA wouldn't stand in court, and thats my point. Either similar provisions DO stand, and you can't use your OEM copy on another computer, -OR- similar provisions do NOT stand, and you can just buy a 30$ educational license and save yourself the trouble.
No matter which side of the fence you're on, getting an OEM license with a new machine (EeePC or otherwise) to transfer it on a full machine is silly:)
Actually, in many cases, its tied to the motherboard. With something like an EeePC (or even a lap-top) though, that gets fairly simple, since its really one stand alone device, minus storage and memory.
That would be retarded. The license of XP for Eee PC would be OEM and tie it to the EeePC, leaving you with two scenarios:
Either A) You don't think EULAs and license agreements are worth a darn, in which case you can use any other XP license and install it wherever you freagin want (probably with something to deal with the phone home protection).
or B) You think EULAs mean something, in which case that EeePC license is only useful on the EeePC
Thats like buying a student version of software for professional uses. If you're going to ignore the EULA, why even bother respecting -half- of it and lose 50$. Just ignore the whole thing, stick purely to what is stated in copyright law and fair use, and you're good to go:)
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Was it a new computer or a new install (with light use, "new" in this case could mean a decent while).
On a new install, Vista will be analysing usage statistics and precaching stuff for the first few hours (and by first few hours, I mean several days). If used heavily (but always doing the same stuff), it takes 2-4 days, but if only used 1-2 hours a day doing random stuff, it can take a very, very long time. During that time, the hard drive will be going totally insane. Once its done, you'll never hear it again.
On this computer, which has a 10000 rpm raptor hard drive (read: incredibly noisy), it was driving me insane at first. Seriously wouldn't stop. After a while, it went away, and now the system is zippy. (I'm forced to use XP at work now that I'm used to Vista... and it is truly unbearable. However it -is- made worse because it has that garbage that is AVG installed on it... AVG is a plague on Vista, but it still isn't all that great on XP)
I agree about Vista being unfit for Eee PCs... but being slow? Certainly not since SP1... booting? It boots the same as XP (-unless- you have something like Norton, McAfee, AVG, etc installed), and why would you anyway? (aside once a month for updates)? Vista's sleep mode is amazing. I only ever reboot for the monthly system updates, and thats it.
What the hell are you doing on that machine anyway? I had a developer machine that was running SQL Server and VS2008 (multiple instances) at all time on top of all the other crap I needed for work, and I never hit swap on 1 gig. Memory was already fred way before that ever happened (well, unless doing something like compiling a huge C++ codebase or whatever).
If you had one of the stupid antivirus that say that they are Vista compatible but arent (McAfee, Norton, AVG...yes, AVG), then I'd understand, but...
SVN Blame to the rescue!
Then they'll know what part is your first and last name regardless of capitalization! THIS IS HUGE!
ahah! But now the spammers KNOW FOR SURE that there isn't an underscore/dash/whatever between your first and last name! You're so screwed!
The person(s) responsible for this bug is going to have a nice and very uncomfy meeting with their supervisor very soon...
Time is really the only answer. And while its not politicaly correct for a man to complain about sexism, I don't know if you've ever heard of how it is for male elementary teachers in certain areas? Same thing you're describing, but in reverse (and switch sexual harassment for just plain ol bitching harassment).
The issue isn't fundamentaly with women in science, or anything... its just an issue with our society and predefined roles. When parents stop (only) giving the little girl her barbies and the little boy his kid chemistry kit, things will change.
Its the whole Devil May Cry 4 shitstorm all over again, just amplified by an order of magnitude. When DMC4 was announced and later came out for the 360, PS3 fanboys were rating the 360 version down, flaming the 360 forums, pushing how superior the game would be on a PS3 controler, etc etc etc.
360 fanboys aren't a good thing either, but PS3 ones are simply of another level. (Please note I have neither a PS3 or a 360, so this is a semi-impartial point of view).
Reading the 360 FF13 board right now is totally amusing.
err, Vista Ultimate is capped at -128- gigs of RAM, thank you very much. And even if it was capped at 8, it would be enough for a 4 gigs + this card setup.
In some games if you have a 1680x1050 monitor (fairly standard for 20-22 inch 16:9 LCDs), and you crank up texture quality and antialiasing up the wazoo, your card's memory will be the bottleneck. It isn't -too- common, but i've been bit a few times. 1 gig and up is overkill unless you have one heck of a monitor setup, however (for now).
Well, there's the little bit about "size" in the equation. You'll never be able to achieve the efficiency of a building-sized powerplan ran and maintained by engineers, with tons of various technologies to increase efficiency in a little thingy that can fit a 4 passenger car. Weight counts too, the power plan is not -carrying itself-, so it can be as heavy as needs be to work all that technology. It will also be better maintained, as opposed to the boogie owned by some 16 years old student who can't be bothered to care.
All that makes it so realisticaly, a car will not be as efficient as a powerplan until a -major- technological revolution comes in. Also, a much higher percentage of the power on the grid is clean(er). Small example, but where I live, 100% of the electricity that comes from the outlet comes from hydro. Only a few douzen million people on that particular piece of the grid, but a few douzen million people not using fossil fuel made energy from their car is a start.
And again, if eventually there IS a technology to produce 100% clean energy... it will be used by power plants before it is used by cars (not many cars running on solar/wind/hydro/nuclear now, is there?). It -is- an interim solution. One that makes it easier to move to the real solution. Considering the limitations of a car, the only thing that will ever be able to make a car fully clean is either A) Capacitors plug-in on a fully green grid (rofl, thats going to happen....::cough::), or nuclear powered cars.
A) is never happening, and B) will happen after a die. This can be done within my lifetime while we wait for B), so lets go for it.
interestingly, the UAC prompt is shown out of context. That is, it cannot (at least in theory :) ) but controled by anything but the actual input devices (not sure about remote desktop though). So a program -cannot- click on the buttons. While the UAC prompt is up, programs are not allowed to control the mouse or automate keyboard inputs, for example.
Side note, but in Vista, Internet Explorer is not used for Windows Update anymore. It is a stand alone application.
You totally missed the point. A) The grid is way, way, -way- more efficient than tiny little car engines. B) You can gradually change the grid's backend a lot more easily than you can change the habits of hundreds of millions people.
No, you're right, I'm not aware of it. By the way, you do realise that as a general rule, .NET positions are almost totally from what you call "conservative, off the net job agencies/headhunters, very traditional positions", yes? And has been for years? The demand for php/mysql devs for the last 4 years is nothing special. -All- web development related positions (and software development positions in general) have been skyrocketing since the end of the last IT job crash.
I'm a consultant, and now exclusively a .NET one, but that is recent. And when I was advertising myself as php/java/.net developer (since I worked several years in all 3), the ratio of opportunity offers was about 10:1 in favor of .NET compared to PHP, with Java being close (to .NET, though declining), and the two douzen or so agencies (both small and large) I deal with seemed to all agree to seeing the same thing.
Result varies from regions to regions, and obviously countries to countries, but if you're ever -really- bored, try it for kicks, and post a fake resume (well made) for a senior .NET dev/architect with business intelligence experience somewhere visible enough. You're going to want to unplug the phone within 48 hours.
I've seen a lot asp.net mess, don't get me wrong. The ASP.NET community is horrible. As a general, a so called "senior" asp.net developer is on par with a low end intermediate of any of the other environments, so obviously applications made in asp.net tend to be a total mess.
I actually used to be a PHP dev, a while back, and perl before that. They were fine, in their time. Simply put, as the world evolves, so does the technologies, languages, and especially the ecosystems around them. Some are replaced with things better designed for the present, like perl and php, others are made niche in their fields, such as assembly/C/C++ (admitedly, the later is a pretty big niche, mind you, hehe).
In the same way, java is going to slowly become its own niche (the new COBOL), and asp.net is going to be replaced, caving in under its attempts at backward compatibilities. When that happens, a bunch of people who don't like to face reality will be claiming how it is still just as good as new ecosystem XYZ (notice I'm speaking of ecosystem... a language is just a language, unless it falls in a distinct category to solve a specific problem, like functional languages), when it is simply lacking in term of compatibility with more modern mindsets and concepts, and takes 3 times the effort to get the same stuff done.
Perl in its own niche (non-web scripting) has only rarely found itself competing against anything (powershell eventually maybe? But thats windows only, and not much script administration was done in the windows world until semi-recently). PHP however, doesn't have a billion uses aside web development.
Thus my point, and a question at the same time: Why exactly would an ASP.NET developer, who can make 80k+ a year at intermediate level and is probably juggling with douzens of businesses hammering them with job opportunities at any given time (and much, much more than that as they climb up the ladder, on top of having all the doors open for .NET development, Sharepoint, enterprise integration, etc, not limited to web dev with the same experience), and who actually like it, want to learn something with less future opportunities? Something complementary, or something that will open greater doors in the future, sure, why not, but why something that is slowly (but surely) phasing out into a niche?
The parent of my previous post seemed to think it was people who don't want to learn anything new. Its not it, its just a matter of what new stuff do you want to learn. Don't hear many Java or C++ dev too keen on learning Cobol or VB6 now, do you?
as an asp.net programmer, I'll tell you that if I get offered a non-ASP.NET job (assuming I don't get hit with a huge pay cut for not having as much experience in another language), I'll happily learn anything, as long as its not PERL/PHP (perl is sweet, but not for web development).
After you go RoR/ASP.NET/Java/Whatever, you seriously don't want to go back (there are exceptions of course, many many on this site, but yeah). Whenever I get asked if, even as part of a primary asp.net job, I'd want to do some PHP on the side, my answer is systematically "Anything BUT php". And with the totally -insane- demand for asp.net devs right now, there's literally no reason for me to do things otherwise.
I still keep my skillset a bit broader for the inevitable ASP.NET crash, but php is just a no no, and 99% of the asp.net devs I know feel that way. It isn't so much not wanting to learn something else, but asp.net/java get the job done, so if I'm going to learn something new, it has to be a step forward... Python, Ruby, stuff like Flex, etc, fits the bill of at least being as good (if not better), but I'm not going backward, no thank you.
::dring dring::
"Hmm, hello? yes... oh, sure, no problem."
Buddy, the W3C just called. They wanna speak with you about something.
You're right, it doesn't. Howewever, like XHTML, OOXML has a transitional format part of the ISO specs. Office doesn't implement that format, but it is virtually 3 tags away from it (its stuff like 0/1 instead of true/false in attributes, and other simple junk like that which had to be changed because of the last batch of recommendations for the ISO standard stuff).
So roll up a minimalistic patch, backward compatibility would be painfully simple to get, auto-convert any document that is being modified, and you're good to go until they implement the full thing.
i know it shouldn't be that way but...the world isn't as it should be. If someone wants to start encrypting anything and everything, including legitimate usages without heavily sensitive information (which is fine and dandy and helps privacy, so its all good and fine), don't start associating it with people who DO have something to hide.
TPB is doing a huge disservice now. The idiots up there will automatically be like "SEE SEE SEE ?!?!?! Encryption == Piracy, pirates download porn, porn == child porn, think of the children, ban free usage of encryption!!" And then we'll be -worse- off than we are now.
Clean up your act first, THEN advocate encryption, and all will be well.
I know the EULA wouldn't stand in court, and thats my point. Either similar provisions DO stand, and you can't use your OEM copy on another computer, -OR- similar provisions do NOT stand, and you can just buy a 30$ educational license and save yourself the trouble.
No matter which side of the fence you're on, getting an OEM license with a new machine (EeePC or otherwise) to transfer it on a full machine is silly :)
technically AIR and Silverlight is part of the whole Web 2.0 buzz crap.
Though I saw scary shit recently. Some CMS system advertising Web 3.0 features >.> I wanted to murder someone.
Actually, in many cases, its tied to the motherboard. With something like an EeePC (or even a lap-top) though, that gets fairly simple, since its really one stand alone device, minus storage and memory.
That would be retarded. The license of XP for Eee PC would be OEM and tie it to the EeePC, leaving you with two scenarios:
Either A) You don't think EULAs and license agreements are worth a darn, in which case you can use any other XP license and install it wherever you freagin want (probably with something to deal with the phone home protection).
or B) You think EULAs mean something, in which case that EeePC license is only useful on the EeePC
Thats like buying a student version of software for professional uses. If you're going to ignore the EULA, why even bother respecting -half- of it and lose 50$. Just ignore the whole thing, stick purely to what is stated in copyright law and fair use, and you're good to go :)