I agree, but if they want to do this I think IANA/ICAN should *really* try and put the anchors on Verisign, they're really not supposed to be selling things like this. It's pretty much like an abuse of their power. Why not buy the data from someone like google-analytics instead, which is probably going to be more worthwhile.
Here in the UK nominet run the show. But nominet are obliged to not sell things like the data to make a buck as they're a not-for-profit organisation. There are some good services that Nominet charge for like their bulk query service and member services, which are reasonably inexpensive for a business to deploy.
Verisign really should take a leaf out of nominet's book, because comparatively they SUCK.
This was advertised in the film "the core" when the 'hacker kid' sends a message to a pilot within some other data... Great. It's also in use CONSTANTLY by conspiracy theorists, how many people have received that stupid email about the number 911 and the wingdings font... *yawn*.
Steganography is also in use by some media producers, I've heard cases where demo tracks have included some randomness that is later detectable to find the source of whoever leaked the track (each person on the initial review got a different copy of the randomness).
Are you going to feel happy meeting someone else who spends all their time in front of a computer terminal cruising facebook? I think not. So you're going to be better off joining some sports clubs. Look out for tennis, ice skating, jogging, swimming, anything, just not computer terminal stuff. Of course if you want that sort of relationship look out for some IETF meetings in your area.
Thanks for agreeing with me. Now my next point is that the media have put some fear around the facebook/myspace/bebo pages through saying that they're full of paedophiles. That's just got the ball rolling by making others think there are actually people there to meet. It sickens me.. It's just another medium for transferring crap and boring stories about dull and insignificant lives. Why cant they all just find a project on sourceforge to go and document or translate? Never underestimate the stupidity of large groups of people.
What exactly is the point of a social networking site? I've used slashdot for about 5 years regularly, read the articles etc, but I've never really made use of the friend/foe tagging.. I've never bothered to message others, or see their journals... So, what's the point of a site that takes all the crap that I don't want to know about and make that it's sole purpose?
look, now that sco has failed, its obvious that the fud don't settle, no one is going to listen to this crap. hell, it's not even making any real news.
Maybe Ballmer was speaking in generalities, and wasn't speaking
of any specific IP.
This may well be a foreboding statement, hinting to Microsoft's infamous
strategy to embrace, extend, and extinguish. Getting their proverbial
foot in the door, implanting MS IP in some distro here or there as a
gesture of "good will" or some sort of perverted philanthropy, as a sort
of time bomb detonating at the point at which MS decides to attempt to
extinguish Linux-based OSes as competition.
Mod me as FUD if you wish... but I'm not claiming these statements are
anything more than pure speculation. Thankfully conciousness distros like Debian will not allow work into the
base unless it's fully GNU/Apache, whatever, licensed for free use. By
doing this they ensure that this timebomb can never go off. Take a look
at the cdrecord package which is now replaced with wodim. Unless MS were
to release something (and for the life of me the only thing I can think
that *might* get in is some document converter for Word), then it would
have to be correctly licensed, in which case, we're not going to give a
hoot.
MS doesn't read the mail? Who knows. Most of the mail that is sent to hotmail accounts never ends up in the inbox, so who knows what's happened to it? I know for a fact that the mail servers 250'd the mail, I have the logs, but it's never got to the end users accounts, I know for a fact, as the mail was sent to a brand new account. Totally stupid. Someone, please, please, give me a contact name at hotmail's postmaster department so that I can try and get to the bottom of this. It's been going on for years. Apx. 90% of mail with attachments to hotmail accounts gets dropped.
When BeOS came along 95 I think I understood that AmigaOS would never be good enough again. So I switched to Linux, there has never been any reason to switch back even though the Amiga workbench is still a lot better than KDE/GNOME are, and Final writer kicks Open Office writers ass any day.
Amiga fanboy forever. does the amiga have vim7 - no! so what's the point dude? work bench wasn't that great, at the time the acorn os had a better gui, it's quite sad i've not seen the same ported to linux. if i was a tenth the programmer i wish i was i would have put the time in to recreate it.
They've taken a perfectly good distribution and absolutely destroyed its reputation thanks to their management's ineptitude. what? i'm happy knowing that things are properly tested before they get in stable, you should be also. if you want bleeding edge go get ubuntu or fedora.
why cant the browser use a public google cookie to do this, rather than the cookie associated with the end user? would give the user some privacy I suppose...
I'm not sure you get why people use pdfs. Its so that there is a consistent PRINT of the document. Plain text doesn't guarantee anything for the print (and if it did it wouldn't be plain text now would it.) In addition, you can't include graphics and logos on your forms and no ASCII art isn't good enough. that sir, is utterly useless, and what happens when the paper size changes? the constancy is totally lost.
if a consistent formatting is required, then i suggest sending out a plain text file and request that it is filled in, How can you get consistent formatting with plain text, when printed out? What's the font size, paper size, etc. etc.? Plaintext will likely give you 6 pages of unreadable monospaced text, instead of one neatly organised and easy-to-fill page. why do you want to print it? most plain text readers will print just fine. even if it's copied into word or something. but most digital applications are sent via email. and yes, we use plain text for that also. if you want a good idea of large organisations using plaintext applications, why not look at nominet. http://www.nic.uk/registrars/systems/auto/
Dude, quit reading about the way computing use to be 15 years before you were born. In a few years, when you graduate High School, and get into the read world and maybe even a job, you'll see there are PDF forms everywhere. There is NO stopping or even slowing down their use. i don't normally reply to this sort of comment, but dude, i was there, writing programs for Remote Access 2.02 and was a sysop of my own BBS, back in 91. we didnt have pdf back then, but most people could understand how to reply to a text application just fine.
Companies and government entities use PDF forms because they are an electronic version of their normal paper forms. I've never seen an HTML form, plain text form or any of that like look anything like the official paper form I've ever had to fill out. Well only a few times when it was obvious the form was created in plain text or HTML and then printed out. i guess you were not around in the early days. the reason the organisations use pdf and other gui stuff is because they're too simple minded to look at stuff in plain text format. i'm not sure when this trend of thought started but it's not getting the world anywhere fast.
Like the GP poster said, obviously there IS GREAT CALL FOR THEM, as many organizations are using them! Would you rather they send out proprietary Word documents to fill out and print? Because you can't have text entry fields in a plain text file or even an RTF. WTF? how do you think people would do this PRIOR to the GUI word processors? it's not like HTML and PDF invented a text box. back in the day with BBS software we had 300baud lines and plain ascii terminals, but everything worked just fine. someone did try to make headway with gui functionality by the name of RIP but it was not widely implemented.
fwiw, this is an example of what a plain text application form might look like. it shouldn't require a genius to fill out, and probably is simpler to use than a PDF viewer
what corporation actually makes use of forms? Only every single one I've ever worked for. Some government offices here in Canada also provide PDF forms for situations where you have to submit a printed version of the form in the end. You could achieve something similar with web forms, except the printed version would look different depending on browser. Sometimes a consistent formatting is a real advantage. So it is either PDF forms or Word, and given a choice between the two, I definitely vote for PDF. perhaps there is a use for pdf forms, however, the world span perfectly ok before their existence, and i'm sure it will spin just fine without it. what i do think, however, is that there is little calll for them. if a consistent formatting is required, then i suggest sending out a plain text file and request that it is filled in, it's something that i seriously can't see much of a requirement for. sorry.
You are joking, right? Xpdf lacks all kinds of features useful in the corporate world. Forms that can be filled out is one. PDF is an open format, and Adobe publishes the standard for your convenience, but even after years of work Xpdf and offshoots like libpoppler still can't support much more than they did years ago. what corporation actually makes use of forms? isn't that what html is ok for? if one wants to do a form, why not have a code hook that can validate the form data before printing. in most cases, i bet people send the whole pdf to print rather than just the page with the form, so it's probably better all round to keep forms on the web, where most people can get to it.
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I think that I missed something here, what are you talking about? What CSS code? What Lenz?
I agree, but if they want to do this I think IANA/ICAN should *really* try and put the anchors on Verisign, they're really not supposed to be selling things like this. It's pretty much like an abuse of their power. Why not buy the data from someone like google-analytics instead, which is probably going to be more worthwhile.
Here in the UK nominet run the show. But nominet are obliged to not sell things like the data to make a buck as they're a not-for-profit organisation. There are some good services that Nominet charge for like their bulk query service and member services, which are reasonably inexpensive for a business to deploy.
Verisign really should take a leaf out of nominet's book, because comparatively they SUCK.
I wish I'd thought of that. I love aalib/ncurses, I should link to it more often in my perl scripts.
This was advertised in the film "the core" when the 'hacker kid' sends a message to a pilot within some other data... Great. It's also in use CONSTANTLY by conspiracy theorists, how many people have received that stupid email about the number 911 and the wingdings font... *yawn*.
Steganography is also in use by some media producers, I've heard cases where demo tracks have included some randomness that is later detectable to find the source of whoever leaked the track (each person on the initial review got a different copy of the randomness).
Are you going to feel happy meeting someone else who spends all their time in front of a computer terminal cruising facebook? I think not. So you're going to be better off joining some sports clubs. Look out for tennis, ice skating, jogging, swimming, anything, just not computer terminal stuff. Of course if you want that sort of relationship look out for some IETF meetings in your area.
Thanks for agreeing with me. Now my next point is that the media have put some fear around the facebook/myspace/bebo pages through saying that they're full of paedophiles. That's just got the ball rolling by making others think there are actually people there to meet. It sickens me.. It's just another medium for transferring crap and boring stories about dull and insignificant lives. Why cant they all just find a project on sourceforge to go and document or translate? Never underestimate the stupidity of large groups of people.
What exactly is the point of a social networking site? I've used slashdot for about 5 years regularly, read the articles etc, but I've never really made use of the friend/foe tagging.. I've never bothered to message others, or see their journals... So, what's the point of a site that takes all the crap that I don't want to know about and make that it's sole purpose?
Printable http://www.eweek.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=216900,00.asp
HTH
look, now that sco has failed, its obvious that the fud don't settle, no one is going to listen to this crap. hell, it's not even making any real news.
This may well be a foreboding statement, hinting to Microsoft's infamous strategy to embrace, extend, and extinguish. Getting their proverbial foot in the door, implanting MS IP in some distro here or there as a gesture of "good will" or some sort of perverted philanthropy, as a sort of time bomb detonating at the point at which MS decides to attempt to extinguish Linux-based OSes as competition.
Mod me as FUD if you wish... but I'm not claiming these statements are anything more than pure speculation. Thankfully conciousness distros like Debian will not allow work into the base unless it's fully GNU/Apache, whatever, licensed for free use. By doing this they ensure that this timebomb can never go off. Take a look at the cdrecord package which is now replaced with wodim. Unless MS were to release something (and for the life of me the only thing I can think that *might* get in is some document converter for Word), then it would have to be correctly licensed, in which case, we're not going to give a hoot.
MS doesn't read the mail? Who knows. Most of the mail that is sent to hotmail accounts never ends up in the inbox, so who knows what's happened to it? I know for a fact that the mail servers 250'd the mail, I have the logs, but it's never got to the end users accounts, I know for a fact, as the mail was sent to a brand new account. Totally stupid. Someone, please, please, give me a contact name at hotmail's postmaster department so that I can try and get to the bottom of this. It's been going on for years. Apx. 90% of mail with attachments to hotmail accounts gets dropped.
oh come on, that's hilarious! please, mod the parent up as funny, it made me spit my tea out
Amiga fanboy forever. does the amiga have vim7 - no! so what's the point dude? work bench wasn't that great, at the time the acorn os had a better gui, it's quite sad i've not seen the same ported to linux. if i was a tenth the programmer i wish i was i would have put the time in to recreate it.
in soviet russia, siberia connects you!
why cant the browser use a public google cookie to do this, rather than the cookie associated with the end user? would give the user some privacy I suppose...
i don't normally reply to this sort of comment, but dude, i was there, writing programs for Remote Access 2.02 and was a sysop of my own BBS, back in 91. we didnt have pdf back then, but most people could understand how to reply to a text application just fine. Companies and government entities use PDF forms because they are an electronic version of their normal paper forms. I've never seen an HTML form, plain text form or any of that like look anything like the official paper form I've ever had to fill out. Well only a few times when it was obvious the form was created in plain text or HTML and then printed out. i guess you were not around in the early days. the reason the organisations use pdf and other gui stuff is because they're too simple minded to look at stuff in plain text format. i'm not sure when this trend of thought started but it's not getting the world anywhere fast.
fwiw, this is an example of what a plain text application form might look like. it shouldn't require a genius to fill out, and probably is simpler to use than a PDF viewer
Name: ________________________________
House number/name: ___________________
Street: ______________________________
Town: ________________________________
Postcode: ___________
my xpdf brings all the boys to the yard and they're like, its better than yours
fpb vf gur fbhaq n juber znxrf jura pubxvat ba pbpx