Reading the TFA, it actually seems that it was not the "MacBook's Wireless" that was hijacked, but rather an external card plugged into a MacBook. By that standard, I may as well run around and declare "Less Than a Minute to Hijack a Power/i/Book/G3/G4's Wireless". Granted that would be FUD, and a sensationalist headline that doesn't accurately reflect the story, but I could do it....
Yes, some Mac users are smug (myself sometimes included), but in this case, one side is guilty of being "smug" and the other of spreading FUD. Take your pick.
I usually lurk, but I just had to respond to this.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. (At least I think you did, you might just be bitching about something you don't own.) If these problems bother you, I would suggest taking it in to an Apple store. My MacBook, which I am typing on as I speak, did indeed have heat issues and mooing... so I took it in to a store and, lo' and behold, they replaced it with this current one, which has had no issues. Also keep in mind the failure rate. We hear about dozens of bloggers bitching about their computers, but we don't hear about the million or so users who don't have any negative experiences to broadcast to the world...
Yes, there are certainly issues with the first-gen MacBooks (just as there were with the first TiBooks, AlBooks, iBooks, iMacs, etc. etc.), but provided you don't march into the store and pitch a tantrum about the products quality, or generally make an ass of yourself, the reps at the stores will almost certainly act like those of any other reasonable company, and give you a replacement.
Bottom line: If you have issues, don't just throw a tantrum, but take it in to a store, or call for a warranty replacement, courteously explain your problem, and get the product replaced.
I won't mod you down, but I will try to clarify some things that come to mind when I read your comment.
higher than average PC quality No it's not. It's PC hardware with an Apple case. Repeat after me, it is PC hardware. Apple Intel Hardware=PC Intel Hardware, that's why you're booting Windows XP!
Yes, yes... it's the same CPU: we know. The quote you provided mentions its quality, nothing else. Personally, I tend to think that Apple hardware is built better than Dell, etc. Perhaps I've just been lucky, but I've had far fewer DOA's, far fewer lemons with Apple than I have with most other commodity PC manufacturers. None of that, as far as I know, is disproven by the CPU similarities.
So you're saying that your Apple Intel Duo is right up there with the Dell Intel Duo, with the exact same CPUs, I'd hope so. What is your point?
His point is that, contrary to a lot of the bitching and moaning about price that a lot of people are doing, Apple products are finally getting reviews as being decently priced for the level of performance that they provide. Furthermore (and I don't know if this is what was meant by the original poster), a computer's performance depends on more than just the CPU (as you probably already know...) Stuff like the GPU, hard drive, RAM, and even the motherboard all factor in. While I can't speak for the quality of the hard drive and RAM, I do know that the GPUs in the new Intel Macs tend to be very good.
It's like the T-shirt made in the same Chinese factory, one half sent to Walmart to sell at $7 the other half sent to Designer store tagged at $50. It's hilarious to see these Apple fanatics rave about the quality and workmanship of their $5 shirts.
That point would be a lot more valid if Apple hardware were merely Dell hardware with a different sticker. It's not though. They may be made in the same country (my iBook was made in China, like some Dells,) but that does not mean that they were made in the same factory, or for that matter, using anything near the same components. So in reality, they're not the same designer shirt. Different material, different cut, and different factory.
Now, take Apples teet out of your mouth and mod me down!
I won't mod you down. Instead, I'll try and change your unfortunately misguided opinions of Mac users. While some may be fanatics, they are a small (albeit vocal) portion of our ranks. Fanatics exist on both sides (I'm sure you are familiar with anti-Apple fanatics), but that doesn't mean that one is a fanatic because they are part of a certain side.
I actually agree with you in that it's better than Firefox. My point was that often, these improvement forks often get overhyped to the point where, upon release people say "That's it?" and ignore them. I would love to see Songbird succeed, I really would (I love open source with a passion). I'm just a wee bit irritated when projects get promised as the "next big thing."
Anyone remember Flock? Totally magical! Will change the way you browse the web! Will shine your shoes and feed your cat!
Or not. It's essentially Firefox plus some random blog-editing tools and a "pretty" interface. Songbird, IMHO, will be much the same. So far the only feature that people like is the "URL Slurper"... which basically amounts to wget recursively. Don't get me wrong... I'm all for competition, especially when it's Open-Source vs. Closed-Source. That said, I can't see much worth getting hyped up about: the interface is nothing new (but more cluttered than iTunes), the "URL Slurper" isn't anything the world hasn't seen with wget and curl, and I think the project might be at risk legally.
The optimist in me will make sure I download and try it the first day that it's available. The pessimist reminds me that getting hyped up will make me less receptive to a good product.
Advertising just isn't the sort of thing that wikipedia should be getting into unless it needs to for support. Once the money crisis is over, it should stop showing ads.
The developer version of OS X can run on non-apple hardware, but only if you think troubleshooting is fun (read: not well). The versions that will reach consumers on Intel systems will be DRM'ed to prevent this. It will be crackable, but the 1% of the population that can do this isn't Apple's target market anyways.
First... take your fingers off the 'Moderate' button and listen for a second.;)
Now.... I think it's really cute how Dvorak (along with alot of other people) automatically assume the switch to Intel means commodity x86. We all know that Intel has the capability and history developing other chips... so why not consider that as a possibility? Apple has stated that they will not allow the running of OS X on other hardware... I personally don't think that's due to the lack of OpenFirmware or anything... I think it's due to the fact that Intel != Pentium4/PentiumM. My guess is that Apple has agreed for Intel to produce a slightly modified version of the PentiumM... that, or a mobo/chip combo with some extra trimmings. The chip might have more registers, a slightly different instruction set... god knows what. The bottom line is that switching to Intel does not mean that all of our Macs will run on standard x86 chips. Linux probably will be easier to port to the new Macs (if it requires any work at all), but it certainly won't kill of Linux development. If anything, it will make x86 development stronger (assuming, of course that they use a psuedo-standard x86... see above though.)
As usual, Dvorak is basing his prediction of an assumption based on an interpretation of a summary of the facts.
They can't...but has that ever stopped Dvorak from one of his "predictions", i.e. Wild Ass Guesses (TM), before? Seriously, this guy is just a pundit. He makes his living by spouting off stupid, controversial crap...that's the only reason that he's published: controversy == readers/sales.
Bottom line: again, Dvorak's talking out of his ass, just like when he claimed that there were almost no linux applications that could run on the PS2, he's making an uninformed guess based on something he heard somewhere.
As an actual member of 419eater, I feel compelled to feed the troll, or at least respond to it. As it stands, we have code that spiders the sites and checks if a bandwidth limit exceeded page has been reached. When it has, the hitlist is updated to no longer have that target on it. We have yet to have a hoster tell us we're DDOS'ing them...mainly because we have never, and will never DDOS them. We only try to exceed the bandwidth limit, not knock out the server.
Once Longhorn comes out, Microsoft will again be so far ahead, it won't be easy, or even possible, for enthusiasts to catch up.
Hi Mr. Troll...have some food:
1. The entire OS will be accessible through a set of managed APIs. This makes coding 10 times easier and faster, and raises productivity to unprecedented levels. This also makes buffer overflows and some other security issues a thing of the past.
Good idea...let's call them shared libraries. They can handle all the functions that a modern program will need. We'll put them in a central location, like a "lib" folder, and then release their header files in a "devel" (short for developer) package. This means that any program writer will be able to see exactly what functions he needs to use. We'll also put all our trust in the security of one developer, and forget security as our responsibility.
2. New, resolution independent, vector based, GPU-enabled UI engine.... What's KDE/Gnome users gonna do? That's right, try to discern tiny non-scalable icons on these displays.
That's right...those damn communists will have to develop SVG Icons to compete.
3. Completely new UI, including some significant paradigm changes.
Because we all know that a new UI is far more important than stability, performance, security, ease of use, scalability, compatibility, ease of development, and speed of patch releases...right? Then again, maybe changing to a 3d environment will make it easier for new users, after all, computers haven't been using 2d interfaces for the last 20-some years, right?
Your webapps will actually run sandboxed.NET code on your machine.
Just like, oh, I don't know...Java? Wait... Kind of like applets, but the entire webapp will be built out of them.... oh...I get it, just like a whole Java application. Got it. Silly me, I thought Java was only for applets... Just think about the possibilities there.Wait! I've heard this before... the possibility is ActiveX...seamless integration of pr0n toolbars^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H client and server, huh?
web service protocol that's supported by the majority of computers in the world (when most people upgrade). Standard...oh yeah, like TCP/IP, SSL, SSH, Telnet, UDP, and all those other standards...(too many to list)
The most important thing is, all of this will be available to Windows users out of the box, without any tweaking/recompiling/downloading dependencies Yeah...clicking the icon for Synaptic was getting to be a pain in the ass. I also got pretty tired of having several gigs worth of...well, all the programs I need...included on the installation disks. Developers will be able to rely on this stuff when building next-gen apps and be reasonably sure that if a user runs Longhorn, the app will run there.
Yeah, let's see how many DLL's we can cram into the system32 folder, eh? Until DLL's are gone (ahem...notafuckingchanceinhell...ahem), there will still be DLL hell.
It's time to stop copying Windows XP, folks. Are you out of your fucking mind? MS copied Fisher-Price, not vice versa... It's time to start copying Longhorn. You know, you're right...let's copy a product that has to have a final specifications sheet, or even a concrete release date. Even better, let's copy our own innovations.
Now that the troll's full, I may as well poke it a bit:
That was by far one of the most uneducated, poorly cocnceived fanboy responses that I have ever read. Even people like Dvorak and Thurrot take more time to look at the status quo before proclaiming innovation.
Undoubtedly, proponents of MS will point to this and say "See...told you so..."
The difference between Mozilla/other OSS and MS software is that while a bug in IE will remain unfixed for months (unless it's such a glaring error that the media grills them for it,) a bug in Moz/Firefox won't last very long. So the real issue that we need to remember is not that three bugs were found, but that unlike MS three bugs will be fixed.
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Reading the TFA, it actually seems that it was not the "MacBook's Wireless" that was hijacked, but rather an external card plugged into a MacBook. By that standard, I may as well run around and declare "Less Than a Minute to Hijack a Power/i/Book/G3/G4's Wireless". Granted that would be FUD, and a sensationalist headline that doesn't accurately reflect the story, but I could do it....
Yes, some Mac users are smug (myself sometimes included), but in this case, one side is guilty of being "smug" and the other of spreading FUD. Take your pick.
-maz
On one hand, we have a system which tracks fast moving objects, and uses lasers to torch them.
On the other hand, we have birds, flying past the detectors.
That's it... I'm bringing Jamaican Jerk spices when I fly next....
-m
I usually lurk, but I just had to respond to this.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. (At least I think you did, you might just be bitching about something you don't own.) If these problems bother you, I would suggest taking it in to an Apple store. My MacBook, which I am typing on as I speak, did indeed have heat issues and mooing... so I took it in to a store and, lo' and behold, they replaced it with this current one, which has had no issues. Also keep in mind the failure rate. We hear about dozens of bloggers bitching about their computers, but we don't hear about the million or so users who don't have any negative experiences to broadcast to the world...
Yes, there are certainly issues with the first-gen MacBooks (just as there were with the first TiBooks, AlBooks, iBooks, iMacs, etc. etc.), but provided you don't march into the store and pitch a tantrum about the products quality, or generally make an ass of yourself, the reps at the stores will almost certainly act like those of any other reasonable company, and give you a replacement.
Bottom line: If you have issues, don't just throw a tantrum, but take it in to a store, or call for a warranty replacement, courteously explain your problem, and get the product replaced.
I won't mod you down, but I will try to clarify some things that come to mind when I read your comment.
higher than average PC quality
No it's not. It's PC hardware with an Apple case. Repeat after me, it is PC hardware. Apple Intel Hardware=PC Intel Hardware, that's why you're booting Windows XP!
Yes, yes... it's the same CPU: we know. The quote you provided mentions its quality, nothing else. Personally, I tend to think that Apple hardware is built better than Dell, etc. Perhaps I've just been lucky, but I've had far fewer DOA's, far fewer lemons with Apple than I have with most other commodity PC manufacturers. None of that, as far as I know, is disproven by the CPU similarities.
So you're saying that your Apple Intel Duo is right up there with the Dell Intel Duo, with the exact same CPUs, I'd hope so. What is your point?
His point is that, contrary to a lot of the bitching and moaning about price that a lot of people are doing, Apple products are finally getting reviews as being decently priced for the level of performance that they provide. Furthermore (and I don't know if this is what was meant by the original poster), a computer's performance depends on more than just the CPU (as you probably already know...) Stuff like the GPU, hard drive, RAM, and even the motherboard all factor in. While I can't speak for the quality of the hard drive and RAM, I do know that the GPUs in the new Intel Macs tend to be very good.
It's like the T-shirt made in the same Chinese factory, one half sent to Walmart to sell at $7 the other half sent to Designer store tagged at $50. It's hilarious to see these Apple fanatics rave about the quality and workmanship of their $5 shirts.
That point would be a lot more valid if Apple hardware were merely Dell hardware with a different sticker. It's not though. They may be made in the same country (my iBook was made in China, like some Dells,) but that does not mean that they were made in the same factory, or for that matter, using anything near the same components. So in reality, they're not the same designer shirt. Different material, different cut, and different factory.
Now, take Apples teet out of your mouth and mod me down!
I won't mod you down. Instead, I'll try and change your unfortunately misguided opinions of Mac users. While some may be fanatics, they are a small (albeit vocal) portion of our ranks. Fanatics exist on both sides (I'm sure you are familiar with anti-Apple fanatics), but that doesn't mean that one is a fanatic because they are part of a certain side.
-maz
Since when is a 6-month window considered a "date"?
I'm guessing you're not female.
"Hold on Lois... a boat's a boat. But the mystery box could be anything. It could even be a boat, and you know how much we've wanted one of those!"
The irony of course, is that here's some more.
I actually agree with you in that it's better than Firefox. My point was that often, these improvement forks often get overhyped to the point where, upon release people say "That's it?" and ignore them. I would love to see Songbird succeed, I really would (I love open source with a passion). I'm just a wee bit irritated when projects get promised as the "next big thing."
Anyone remember Flock? Totally magical! Will change the way you browse the web! Will shine your shoes and feed your cat!
Or not. It's essentially Firefox plus some random blog-editing tools and a "pretty" interface. Songbird, IMHO, will be much the same. So far the only feature that people like is the "URL Slurper"... which basically amounts to wget recursively. Don't get me wrong... I'm all for competition, especially when it's Open-Source vs. Closed-Source. That said, I can't see much worth getting hyped up about: the interface is nothing new (but more cluttered than iTunes), the "URL Slurper" isn't anything the world hasn't seen with wget and curl, and I think the project might be at risk legally.
The optimist in me will make sure I download and try it the first day that it's available. The pessimist reminds me that getting hyped up will make me less receptive to a good product.
Advertising just isn't the sort of thing that wikipedia should be getting into unless it needs to for support. Once the money crisis is over, it should stop showing ads.
I'm just wondering when they can fine AOL for sucking all-around. They can do that to hookers, why not AOHELL?
Fine her? Isn't that what you paid her to do? It's a little akward when your ISP does it though...
But not fast enough to get me first post.
The developer version of OS X can run on non-apple hardware, but only if you think troubleshooting is fun (read: not well). The versions that will reach consumers on Intel systems will be DRM'ed to prevent this. It will be crackable, but the 1% of the population that can do this isn't Apple's target market anyways.
First... take your fingers off the 'Moderate' button and listen for a second. ;)
Now.... I think it's really cute how Dvorak (along with alot of other people) automatically assume the switch to Intel means commodity x86. We all know that Intel has the capability and history developing other chips... so why not consider that as a possibility? Apple has stated that they will not allow the running of OS X on other hardware... I personally don't think that's due to the lack of OpenFirmware or anything... I think it's due to the fact that Intel != Pentium4/PentiumM. My guess is that Apple has agreed for Intel to produce a slightly modified version of the PentiumM... that, or a mobo/chip combo with some extra trimmings. The chip might have more registers, a slightly different instruction set... god knows what. The bottom line is that switching to Intel does not mean that all of our Macs will run on standard x86 chips. Linux probably will be easier to port to the new Macs (if it requires any work at all), but it certainly won't kill of Linux development. If anything, it will make x86 development stronger (assuming, of course that they use a psuedo-standard x86... see above though.)
As usual, Dvorak is basing his prediction of an assumption based on an interpretation of a summary of the facts.
-maz
MOD PARENT UP
Aggggh!! He's hax0r3ed my computer... I have the same IP... he was using my machine!!!
Anyone know if it's still vulnerable to the old LAND attack?
-maztuh
They can't...but has that ever stopped Dvorak from one of his "predictions", i.e. Wild Ass Guesses (TM), before? Seriously, this guy is just a pundit. He makes his living by spouting off stupid, controversial crap...that's the only reason that he's published: controversy == readers/sales.
Bottom line: again, Dvorak's talking out of his ass, just like when he claimed that there were almost no linux applications that could run on the PS2, he's making an uninformed guess based on something he heard somewhere.
As an actual member of 419eater, I feel compelled to feed the troll, or at least respond to it. As it stands, we have code that spiders the sites and checks if a bandwidth limit exceeded page has been reached. When it has, the hitlist is updated to no longer have that target on it. We have yet to have a hoster tell us we're DDOS'ing them...mainly because we have never, and will never DDOS them. We only try to exceed the bandwidth limit, not knock out the server.
-maztuh
Once Longhorn comes out, Microsoft will again be so far ahead, it won't be easy, or even possible, for enthusiasts to catch up.
.NET code on your machine.
Hi Mr. Troll...have some food:
1. The entire OS will be accessible through a set of managed APIs. This makes coding 10 times easier and faster, and raises productivity to unprecedented levels. This also makes buffer overflows and some other security issues a thing of the past.
Good idea...let's call them shared libraries. They can handle all the functions that a modern program will need. We'll put them in a central location, like a "lib" folder, and then release their header files in a "devel" (short for developer) package. This means that any program writer will be able to see exactly what functions he needs to use. We'll also put all our trust in the security of one developer, and forget security as our responsibility.
2. New, resolution independent, vector based, GPU-enabled UI engine.... What's KDE/Gnome users gonna do? That's right, try to discern tiny non-scalable icons on these displays.
That's right...those damn communists will have to develop SVG Icons to compete.
3. Completely new UI, including some significant paradigm changes.
Because we all know that a new UI is far more important than stability, performance, security, ease of use, scalability, compatibility, ease of development, and speed of patch releases...right? Then again, maybe changing to a 3d environment will make it easier for new users, after all, computers haven't been using 2d interfaces for the last 20-some years, right?
Your webapps will actually run sandboxed
Just like, oh, I don't know...Java? Wait... Kind of like applets, but the entire webapp will be built out of them.... oh...I get it, just like a whole Java application. Got it. Silly me, I thought Java was only for applets...
Just think about the possibilities there.Wait! I've heard this before... the possibility is ActiveX...seamless integration of pr0n toolbars^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H client and server, huh?
web service protocol that's supported by the majority of computers in the world (when most people upgrade).
Standard...oh yeah, like TCP/IP, SSL, SSH, Telnet, UDP, and all those other standards...(too many to list)
The most important thing is, all of this will be available to Windows users out of the box, without any tweaking/recompiling/downloading dependencies
Yeah...clicking the icon for Synaptic was getting to be a pain in the ass. I also got pretty tired of having several gigs worth of...well, all the programs I need...included on the installation disks.
Developers will be able to rely on this stuff when building next-gen apps and be reasonably sure that if a user runs Longhorn, the app will run there.
Yeah, let's see how many DLL's we can cram into the system32 folder, eh? Until DLL's are gone (ahem...notafuckingchanceinhell...ahem), there will still be DLL hell.
It's time to stop copying Windows XP, folks.
Are you out of your fucking mind? MS copied Fisher-Price, not vice versa...
It's time to start copying Longhorn.
You know, you're right...let's copy a product that has to have a final specifications sheet, or even a concrete release date. Even better, let's copy our own innovations.
Now that the troll's full, I may as well poke it a bit:
That was by far one of the most uneducated, poorly cocnceived fanboy responses that I have ever read. Even people like Dvorak and Thurrot take more time to look at the status quo before proclaiming innovation.
Cheers,
-maztuh
On 105% of keyboards, the 4 is next to the 5, so I would imagine it was a typo.
You mean on 104%...right?
Protocol analysis? I'll analyze that linking to a PDF will give us a chance to analyze a slashdotting.
I did read the article. That was my point. ;)
Undoubtedly, proponents of MS will point to this and say "See...told you so..."
The difference between Mozilla/other OSS and MS software is that while a bug in IE will remain unfixed for months (unless it's such a glaring error that the media grills them for it,) a bug in Moz/Firefox won't last very long. So the real issue that we need to remember is not that three bugs were found, but that unlike MS three bugs will be fixed.
Cheers,
-maztuh
Anyone else scared to read that MS now has a community called SpyNet?
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Last time someone did that, Arnold had to come in and kill some poor bastard named Sarah Conner.....