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Apple Website Points to PowerBook G5

lewsmind writes "The Register has a scoop on the new PowerBook G5. According to this article at the Apple website has hidden clues that suggest the coming of the PB G5 very soon. ."

387 comments

  1. Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by garcia · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Update: Within an hour of posting the story, and the screenshot we took as evidence, Apple altered the HTML to replace g5 with g4. Don't hang around, do they?

    And yet they haven't posted an official statement to their website about the Mac Mini not voiding the warranty when you either A) break the clips holding the case together or B) open the case in the first place.

    You would think that if they are able to update their site that fast to quell rumors that they would at least post an official statement about the serviceability of the Mini. Interestingly enough the Mac Mini page still says that memory upgrades (along with other hardware) *must* be upgraded by an authorized person.

    BTW - I wasn't aware that this was a Mac rumors site. I thought it was Slashdot (News for Nerds/Stuff that Matters + iPods)?

    1. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by oscast · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "And yet they haven't posted an official statement to their website about the Mac Mini not voiding the warranty when you either A) break the clips holding the case together or B) open the case in the first place."

      Maybe because they never said that it voids your warranty in the first place.

      That was nothing but FUD that was been corrected by statements Apple has made to correct the misconceptions... statements which I know you've read yet you continue to repeat in an effort to spread FUD.

    2. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by garcia · · Score: 2, Informative

      That was nothing but FUD that was been corrected by statements Apple has made to correct the misconceptions... statements which I know you've read yet you continue to repeat in an effort to spread FUD.

      Where are the statements? I have asked for them multiple times and no one has shown me anything other than statements from third party sites that are quotes from supposed conversations with Apple representatives.

    3. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. I paid for them, you didn't.

    4. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by oscast · · Score: 5, Informative

      Quote from Mac World Article:

      "contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")

    5. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by garcia · · Score: 2, Interesting

      contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")

      Looks like heresy to me just like every other statement out there. When I said that I want an official statement I mean OFFICIAL. From Apple on Apple.com.

    6. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by JabberWokky · · Score: 3, Informative
      I wasn't aware that this was a Mac rumors site. I thought it was Slashdot (News for Nerds/Stuff that Matters + iPods)?

      apple.slashdot.org has been active for quite awhile now.

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    7. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      heresy?

      did he speak out against god or something?

      OOOOOOH, you meant HEARSAY
      ok, now I got ya

      think I'm just being annoying and difficult there? Guess what, you are too.

    8. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Funny
      Looks like heresy to me just like every other statement out there. When I said that I want an official statement I mean OFFICIAL. From Apple on Apple.com.

      I'm not sure that word means what you think it means ;) Just to clarify, did you mean heresy, or hearsay?

    9. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Space+Coyote · · Score: 4, Funny
      contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")

      Looks like heresy to me just like every other statement out there. When I said that I want an official statement I mean OFFICIAL. From Apple on Apple.com.

      And people accuse mac fans of being the religiously fanatical ones.

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    10. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      I'd love it is /. were a decent Mac rumors site. But it's not. In this case, it's "News for Nerds. Typos that matter."

      This is the lamest rumor I've ever seen on the web. And I used to read macosrumors.com daily. (I'm not hyperlinking them because their website isn't worth your ten second speed read. macrumors.com is a little better.)

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    11. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus, why don't you just ask for Jimmy Hoffa's corpse while you're at it. Apple doesn't fucking care if you replace the RAM okay? Don't break anything and they won't get on your case. I've had Apple work on my Macs that have third party ram, and they've never even taken it out. They don't care, unless it's the problem, and then they just remove it.

    12. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You could always simply READ the warranty.

      But since you're not going to, I'll tell you that it says it doesn't cover damage that is CAUSED by faulty user installation or problems caused by non-Apple products. It has no provision that voids the warranty for a case removal.

    13. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by nine-times · · Score: 1
      BTW - I wasn't aware that this was a Mac rumors site. I thought it was Slashdot (News for Nerds/Stuff that Matters + iPods)?

      I am a Mac user, and I look around at Mac rumor sites sometimes, so what I'm about to say shouldn't be taken as holding anti-Mac sentiments.

      I agree that I'm bothered by this degree of Mac-rumor-mongering on the /. front page. I don't mind that it's a Mac rumor, but that it's a silly and unsubstantiated Mac rumor. Every indication is that a G5 Powerbook is a ways off still. Some 1x1 gif inserted by an advertiser titled "powerbook_g5.gif" is quite a little thing to inspire such wild speculation.

      The Mac rumor mill is known for it's wild speculation, and it's known be to wrong pretty much all the time. For the past year and a half, every 2 weeks someone else comes up with some sort of "conclusive evidence" that the Powerbook G5 release is imminent. And we're still waiting, and they still aren't coming anytime soon. Ok, I expect that from the Mac rumor mill, but I expect more Slashdot.

    14. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by zev1983 · · Score: 2

      I still think they Powerbook G5 will be released along Tiger. It only makes sense to release your shiny new 64bit OS with a shiny new 64bit laptop. The big software introduction (which has been proceeding in public) deserves a big hardware introduction to complement it.

    15. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure that word means what you think it means ;) Just to clarify, did you mean heresy, or hearsay?

      Well, those Apple fanatics are cult-like!

    16. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by russint · · Score: 5, Funny

      "contrary to rumors around the Internet, Apple has told Macworld that you can even do it yourself without voiding your warranty "unless you break something when you open it.")

      So contrary to rumors on the Internet, rumors on the Internet state that the rumors on the Internet are not true?

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    17. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by generationxyu · · Score: 1, Informative

      You can set your preferences if you don't want to see certain articles. This falls under the realm of acceptable Slashdot articles -- if it's not something you're interested in, don't look at it.

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    18. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by catwh0re · · Score: 2, Informative
      If you do a good job of it, apple don't have any real way of telling if you opened your mac mini(as any damage can be blamed on the person who opened the mac mini to check.. it's like the quantum cat in the box). Besides those that have dealt with apple know that they are quite fair(read: lenient) with their warranty policies (such as all those people that have dropped their ipods in water and got them replaced free of charge.)

      Also when you open the mac mini you don't actually break the clips, it's just like in the ipods, the clips will make cracking noises but they don't actually break. (they do ware down a little if you repeat this too many times though)

      Now considering the platform's target audience and apple being a business not a charity, there is nothing wrong with them asking consumers to not attempt to crack open their hardware and add ram etc. The reality is, if you can add it, then you can remove it should you need to give it to an authorised apple repair centre. The majority of hardware sold does not ever need to go to a repair centre anyway, so i don't see why this is such a huge issue.

      As for the g4/g5 crisis that seems to exist in the press, I can assure you that not that many people actually care, people with any memory will remember that 'the g4 is too hot to be put in a powerbook' .. that was until it was put in an enclosure that was not only incredibly thin, but thinner than the g3 powerbooks.

      Doing a little bit of research shows that the G5 doesn't have monster heat and power requirements when you run them below that 1.8ghz threshold, and that was before IBM did a transistor shrink on the architecture. The delay is really getting enough supply of g5 chips and enough of the models built so apple don't have a depressing wait time, like they manage to get for every new product they release, like with the g4 powerbook, they know this will be another monster release.

    19. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by oscast · · Score: 1

      What make a statement on their web site to correct themselves for something they didn't say? No, a comment to several news sites including the one I supplied is plenty.

    20. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paying Slashdot for an subscriber account is like paying a proctologist to give you a dental exam.

    21. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by i_bill · · Score: 1

      Wow! That's Great!
      So that means that if I open it up, and three weeks later something goes wrong, it's my fault

    22. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by sgant · · Score: 1

      OK...does Apple have an official statement on their website about any of their Macs not voiding the warranty when you open them up? Any official statement about putting in 3rd party RAM in their G5 machines? How about an offical statement stating that the warranty won't be voided if you put in a second HD on any of their machines?

      I guess you can't. Everyone with a Mac that upgraded their RAM by themselves have been busted!

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    23. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Dr.+Mojura · · Score: 4, Informative
      Apple Warranty: Installing Memory, Expansion Cards, User Installable Parts Does Not Void Warranty

      You may install memory (RAM, VRAM), and other customer-installable parts without voiding your Apple warranty.

      ...However, if in the course of adding an upgrade or expansion product to your computer, you damage your Apple computer (either through the installation of, or incompatibility of the upgrade or expansion product), Apple's warranty will not cover the cost of repair, or future related repairs.


      Seems pretty clear to me. You're free to upgrade the memory, but you're doing so at your own risk.
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    24. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some 1x1 gif inserted by an advertiser titled "powerbook_g5.gif" is quite a little thing to inspire such wild speculation.

      Indeed, a transparent 1x1 GIF gives another shade to the meaning of the term "thin evidence".

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    25. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 1

      the warranty passage you quote explicitly qualifies the memory as "customer-installable" when the mac mini page clearly states that the memory is NOT "customer-installable".

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    26. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by dr00g911 · · Score: 1

      Bring out the comfy chair!

      </inquisition>

    27. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by The+Unabageler · · Score: 1

      You are accused of heresey on three counts:
      heresy by words!
      heresy by deeds!
      heresy by thought!
      heresy by apple! ....FOUR counts!

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    28. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by soulhuntre · · Score: 1

      other customer-installable parts

      The Mac Mini page states that on the Mini memory is not considered customer installable.

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    29. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by virtual_mps · · Score: 1
      And yet they haven't posted an official statement to their website about the Mac Mini not voiding the warranty when you either A) break the clips holding the case together or B) open the case in the first place.

      Why would they? It would be a violation of US federal law (the Magnuson-Moss Act). You might as well demand that they conspicuously post notices that they don't sell illegal drugs or engage in racketeering; most businesses don't list on their web sites all the illegal things they don't do.
    30. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by ahacop@wmuc.umd.edu · · Score: 1

      OK...does Apple have an official statement on their website about any of their Macs not voiding the warranty when you open them up?

      How about the warranty?

    31. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by justins · · Score: 1
      Maybe because they never said that it voids your warranty in the first place.

      You know, it wasn't FUD for people to read "Memory upgrade must be performed by an Apple Authorized Service provider" at http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html and assume some things. A misunderstanding, perhaps, and props to Apple for pulling the text, and presumably updating their warranty policy. But why does every Mac user have this persecution complex? You know what the acronym "FUD" means, right? You realize that this misunderstanding was completely Apple's fault, right? Right?

      Well, of course not. You're a Mac user.
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    32. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've never proved your original claim was an official statement to begin with. Now you want an official statement to counter it? If you're not a troll, you're an idiot.

    33. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Dorothy+86 · · Score: 1

      Where Steve Jobs=God
      Heresy=true

    34. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "So contrary to rumors on the Internet, rumors on the Internet state that the rumors on the Internet are not true?"

      you mean the internets

    35. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by sgant · · Score: 2

      ok, according to Apple's warranty (this is there basic 1 year warranty):

      (d) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider;

      This is for ALL their products under the 1 year warranty as ahacop listed in his link above.

      link spelled out is:
      http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/hardware. html

      If you notice, it's not a special warranty for the Mac Mini...it's their normal 1 year warranty.

      So why am I beating everyone over the head with this? Well, it's saying even their high-end, easy to open Dual G5 machines have to be upgraded at Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider! Yet no one seems to be harping about this...ever. So why is everyone pointing it out about the Mini? The original iMacs were hard to open also, yet opening them and upgrading the memory didn't void the warranty.

      As long as you don't ruin something on the inside from being stupid, you don't void the warranty. But this is true for ANY of their computers.

      Usually there is a big sticker on the outside of a case saying "no servicable parts inside, opening will void your warranty". Does the Mac Mini have some type of warning on it's case?

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    36. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by SeaFox · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I'm not sure that word means what you think it means ;) Just to clarify, did you mean heresy, or hearsay?"

      I thought he said Hershey. :(
      Now I really am hungry.

    37. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by aichpvee · · Score: 0
      Not that I read it extensively, but in quickly glancing over the Apple hardware warranty I didn't see anything about voiding your warranty from opening the case. Though they do claim that the warranty does not cover third party parts or non-Apple certified service providers.

      You can read their warranty information for new hardware (excluding iPod and iSight) here and Apple's warranty page is here.

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    38. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what the acronym "FUD" means, right?

      Look pal, we're not interested in your fancy "definitions". This is Slashdot, where "to" means "too", "you're" means "your", "Windows" means "blue screen" and "FUD" means "something I don't want you to believe".

    39. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, of course not. You're a Mac user.

      I can apply another popular net phrase to the above. FLAMEBAIT.

    40. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like paying a child with broken short term memory to give you a dental exam.

    41. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by greenhide · · Score: 1

      So why am I beating everyone over the head with this? Well, it's saying even their high-end, easy to open Dual G5 machines have to be upgraded at Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider! Yet no one seems to be harping about this...ever. So why is everyone pointing it out about the Mini? The original iMacs were hard to open also, yet opening them and upgrading the memory didn't void the warranty.


      cough, cough

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    42. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Strolls · · Score: 2, Informative
      I made the mistake of quoting the "as long as you don't break it" rumour to a colleague recently. He's clearly more observant than I am, replying:

      I think it will invalidate your warranty, I read the article you refer to, but check the small print on the Apple tech spec for the mini, it states:
      5. Memory upgrade must be performed by an Apple Authorized Service provider.
      Interestingly, on the US site it says even more:
      5. Memory, AirPort Extreme and internal Bluetooth upgrades must be performed by an Apple Authorized Service provider; fees may apply.

    43. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should sign up for one of those Chocolate Mac Minis.

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    44. Re:Since when is Slashdot an Apple Rumors site? by sgant · · Score: 1

      well, there you go...the "smoking gun" if you will. There is the official Apple stance on installing memory into your Mac Mini.

      Thanks.

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  2. Already gone... by nuclear305 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to TFA, Apple replaced the 'g5' with 'g4' in these so-called clues/hints.

    1. Re:Already gone... by MooseByte · · Score: 4, Insightful


      And as the article points out that it could have been a typo. Having two HTML items labeled "powerbook_g5" (and already changed now to "powerbook_g4" on the page in question), is a far cry from having a page with specs and/or prices accidentally uploaded for a few minutes.

      A Powerbook G5 is inevitable, but this doesn't quite seem like the "Mac Mini" leak....

    2. Re:Already gone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And as the article points out that it could have been a typo. Having two HTML items labeled "powerbook_g5" (and already changed now to "powerbook_g4" on the page in question), is a far cry from having a page with specs and/or prices accidentally uploaded for a few minutes.

      As someone who works in a company with a marketing department, let me say this: marketers are generally idiots who know nothing about what they are marketing and need constant correcting. The marketers at apple probably have already created directories g5 through g10 in anticipation of future ad campaigns. They get confused easily.

    3. Re:Already gone... by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 1

      In Google's cache of the page, it's there, but it's a 1x1 image. And the image is . That's at the very least interesting...

    4. Re:Already gone... by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Damn Slashdot for having the preview and submit buttons so close to each other.

      Here's what I was trying to say:

      In Google's cache of the page, it's there, but it's a 1x1 image. And the image is still there. That's at the very least interesting...

    5. Re:Already gone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think that the fact the image is 'still there' on atdmt makes much difference. Try typing in a random image name - you still get a 1x1 GIF image.

    6. Re:Already gone... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow that's small.. I could put a few thousand of those on my little finger?

      But does it come with optical out?

    7. Re:Already gone... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 5, Informative

      So is

      the g6 powerbook

      and

      Duke nukem forever

      Worked it out yet? This is a non-story.

    8. Re:Already gone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      you can type anything you want at the end, from g6 powerbook to g45438_powerbook, and still get a 1x1 GIF image. It seems to be a placeholder for content they don't have. Certain text strings after the /action/ folder will open PDFs or Flash movies, etc. Try:
      http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_airportexpres s_tech_overview

    9. Re:Already gone... by fermion · · Score: 1
      One would imagine that these links are somehow automatically generated to make deployment faster, or just to utilize spare time. It makes sense that anticipated future product lines are included in the mix. I assume that someone just set a flag incorrectly. It is like when papers write obits in advance and publish them by mistake.

      The G5 powerbook is hopefully coming. Some indicators point to a release this year. Others point to another interation of the G4, and a G5 next year. For my computing I am not all that impatient. It is like the 68xx to PowerPC switch. I have enough invested in the old technology. My major issue right now is sufficient memory.

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    10. Re:Already gone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks like a cut-and-paste error. There is no mention of any g4 labels found (before the change.) Somebody probably cut the code from the powermac page and pasted into the powerbook page and didn't change the whole name.

    11. Re:Already gone... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1
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    12. Re:Already gone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet they call it the "Mac Pico"

  3. Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by Treker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple has posted job ads in classifieds and on Monster Jobs for a "Senior Thermal Enginee r" and "Thermal Engineers". This is much more promising as far as the possibili ty of a PowerBook G5 than the article above. Oh, they've also posted ads on the ir own job site (jobs.apple.com) for a Senior Thermal Design/Engineer...

    1. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by Treker · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Apple has posted job ads in classifieds and on Monster Jobs for a "Senior Thermal Engineer" and "Thermal Engineers". This is much more promising as far as the possibility of a PowerBook G5 than the article above. Oh, they've also posted ads on their own job site (jobs.apple.com) for a Senior Thermal Design/Engineer...

    2. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by greechneb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are they hiring lawyers to test them? I mean if it should happen to overheat, and cause the user to catch on fire, a the cold hearted lawyer would not be injured, right? If they do catch on fire, its not like it is a big loss anyways, right?

    3. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      .. you got any idea of how ehem.. "fast".. that kind of design gets made and production rolled into start?

      if they're just HIRING them then they're friggin year away. maybe they ran out of ideas.

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    4. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by sjf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not necessarily indicative of Powerbook G5. Indicative of a company that builds products that have components that give out heat: recall the G4 "windtunnel" Macs: some PCI cards overheated in this machine due to its poor thermal design.
      The Mac Mini would also have required a great deal of thermal design.

      Note, if Apple is indeed advertising for thermal engineers for a G5 Powerbook today, then there is no chance that we're going to see such a machine any time soon.

    5. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by CausticPuppy · · Score: 3, Funny

      And if we see job postings for cryogenics engineers, we can assume that the G6 powermacs are being designed.

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    6. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by Seehund · · Score: 4, Funny

      I mean if it should happen to overheat, and cause the user to catch on fire,

      A burning Mac user? Is that what you native English speaking people are referring to when you say "flaming homosexual"?

      ;)

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    7. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by Seehund · · Score: 2, Funny

      Crud. I just realised this was apple.slashdot.org, and jokes which in any way could be interpreted as implying something remotely negative about the object of worship equals Karma Suicide.

      It doesn't help that I own a couple of PowerBooks, does it? Please?

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    8. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by bonzoesc · · Score: 1

      I lolled, but I don't have the points today either :(

    9. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by coopaq · · Score: 5, Funny
      Oh, they've also posted ads on their own job site (jobs.apple.com)

      jobs.apple.com? That Steve is such an ego maniac.

      You don't pay Microsoft at bill.microsoft.com.

      And you don't get into the place through gates.micosoft.com

    10. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 5, Funny

      Either that or Steve Jobs is dying.

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    11. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by SunFan · · Score: 1


      Typing this on my shiney new cryogenically cooled G6 Apple laptop. Man is this thing sweet, makes a great ... oh shit my nuts are frozen!!! Ahhh!

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    12. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      You're in bigger trouble than you imagine. This story was crossposted in homosexuals.slashdot.org!

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    13. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by MEGAMAID · · Score: 1

      And if we see job postings for cryogenics engineers, we can assume that the G6 powermacs are being designed.

      or... Apple is swtiching to Prescott! You heard it here first folks!

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    14. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, that's funny. Cheers!

    15. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      We'll still have to wait until Netcraft confirms it, to be sure.

    16. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by mt+v2.7 · · Score: 1

      Thank you sir.. for my weeky spit-coffee-all-over-the-monitor moment..

    17. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by quarkscat · · Score: 1

      They should also be hiring some new PR people,
      because any future G5 based notebook cannot
      be called (or used as) a LAPTOP ..., at least
      not unless Apple starts making use of NASA's
      SST (shuttle) thermal tile technology.

    18. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by magicRob · · Score: 0
      jobs.apple.com? That Steve is such an ego maniac.

      No i believe you're thinking of http://headjob.apple.com . After all, he is CEO...

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    19. Re:Apple is hiring thermal engineers. by cwerdna · · Score: 1

      Big deal. Considering their hardware is custom and they're not just buying off the shelf motherboards andparts, of course they're going to need thermal engineers.

      Even if they're coming out w/more G4 laptops, they're still going to need thermal engineers.

  4. Too Late by turvalon · · Score: 0

    It's changed back already.... end of speculation

  5. Dodgy rumours by jaiyen · · Score: 5, Funny

    I won't believe it until Apple sues The Register ;)

    1. Re:Dodgy rumours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't believe it until it's a 2x2 pixel image. 1x1 just isn't enough for me, sorry /.

    2. Re:Dodgy rumours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the UK, only old apples sue the register

    3. Re:Dodgy rumours by illumin8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      [Cue the sound of a million geeks with too much disposable income whipping out their credit cards all at once. Kaching!]

      So we should expect new PowerBook G5s to be released when, next Tuesday?

      [Fast forward to next Tuesday and cue the sound of a million geeks dissapointed as yet another Tuesday rolls by and no PowerBook G5s]

      I learned not to believe the PowerBook G5 rumors in May of 2002 when everyone was convinced that Apple would simultaneously release PowerMac G5s and PowerBook G5s at WWDC. I realized then that more than half of the time the mac rumors sites are simply blowing smoke up your ass to drive up traffic to their websites.

      Every time they resurrect that infamous "G5 PowerBooks next Tuesday" rumor hundreds of geeks start having wet dreams, just to get their hopes dashed when it never comes true.

      I bought a 1.25 ghz. G4 PowerBook over a year ago and haven't looked back since... It's still fast enough for me today, so I don't think I would buy a G5 PowerBook if it were released today.

      Moral of the story: Buy a G4 PowerBook now and forget about all the rumors.

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    4. Re:Dodgy rumours by jthayden · · Score: 5, Funny
      Buy a G4 PowerBook now and forget about all the rumors.


      Go ahead, but from what I hear, you'll regret it next Tuesday.

    5. Re:Dodgy rumours by pv2b · · Score: 0, Redundant

      And the tuesday after that.

      Etc.

      I wouldn't hold my breath. :-)

    6. Re:Dodgy rumours by CarbonUnit_718 · · Score: 1

      Maybe it was a bad idea to sue Think Secret before they released the products. It made it really obvious that the rumors were true.

    7. Re:Dodgy rumours by ShallowThroat · · Score: 1

      I bought a 1.25 ghz. G4 PowerBook over a year ago and haven't looked back since...

      Yeah, so you're PowerBook is still close to being one of the fastest ones today, over a year later? No wonder you are indifferent to the rumors. Here are the facts: Apple hasn't updated the powerbooks in over 8 months. 283 Days to be exact. The prices have also remained the same. They are LONG overdue for an update, hence all the rumors. Do you really think it's wise to buy a PB that's likely to be updated/price-reduced in a matter of weeks?

      You're on crack man.

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    8. Re:Dodgy rumours by Moofie · · Score: 1

      No, it was wise to buy one eight months ago, instead of waiting. Like I did.

      You just keep waiting for the price reduction. I'm sure it'll be along any day now. No, really!

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    9. Re:Dodgy rumours by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, so you're PowerBook is still close to being one of the fastest ones today, over a year later? No wonder you are indifferent to the rumors. Here are the facts: Apple hasn't updated the powerbooks in over 8 months. 283 Days to be exact. The prices have also remained the same. They are LONG overdue for an update, hence all the rumors. Do you really think it's wise to buy a PB that's likely to be updated/price-reduced in a matter of weeks?

      Well, that's the beauty of Apple products. Check eBay if you want confirmation, but even 3 year old TiBooks demand a great resale price. If you have to sell it tomorrow you can probably sell it for less than a hundred dollars from the price you bought it for.

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    10. Re:Dodgy rumours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      blowing smoke up your ass

      Man, where does this phase come from? That sounds damn uncomfortable.

    11. Re:Dodgy rumours by ArbitraryConstant · · Score: 2, Interesting

      PowerBooks are not currently fast enough for CPU-bound tasks that they're supposed to be able to do*. The only question in my mind is whether Apple decided to fasttrack G5s into the PowerBook line or if they decided it would be better to do the non-trivial redesign required for the new chips** from Freescale (aka Motorola).

      I'm on the fence.

      On the one side, using the new Freescale chips would require a lot of design work that will go out the window when G5s become low power enough to go in laptops. That might not be this year, but it will be in the next few years.

      On the other side, maybe that work won't go out the window. Even though PowerBooks will be 64-bit in the next few years no matter what, the chipsets and other design work can be recycled in the budget lines, which will no doubt be using 32-bit chips for some time into the future.

      One thing is certain: PowerBooks are not currently competitive in areas that are primarily CPU-bound (heavy graphical work, video editing/encoding, etc). They're falling behind now and when Centrino II comes out they won't even be worth mentioning. Apple needs something very soon. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume they are currently doing their best to move heaven and earth to make something happen before it's too late.

      Now, I believe it's time for me to get modded down for being critical of an Apple machine. Better get started before too many people read this.

      * - I know your PowerBook is more responsive than a much faster Windows machine. I'm talking about CPU bound tasks that aren't necessarily interactive. Any responses involving day-to-day user experience will be ignored because I'm not addressing that.

      ** - Freescale has a slightly faster PowerPC chip that's pin-compatible but doesn't upgrade the bus. They also have single and dual-core chips that scale to higher clock speeds and have on-die memory controllers, eliminiating most of the need for a fast bus. These faster chips are not pin-compatible and would also require a new chipset due to the on-die memory controller. None are 64-bit.

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    12. Re:Dodgy rumours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moral of the story: Buy a G4 PowerBook now and forget about all the rumors.

      I am not willing to accept the memory bandwidth of the G4 (for what I do), when the G5 will cause it to jump 10 fold.

      When I drop very many thousands of Aussie dollars on an Apple Powerbook, I am not going to just settle on something that is going to be around 10 times slower (for me).

    13. Re:Dodgy rumours by ShallowThroat · · Score: 1

      You just keep waiting for the price reduction. I'm sure it'll be along any day now. No, really!

      What was that? They are here today? Yeah, I thought so. Shut the fuck up.

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    14. Re:Dodgy rumours by Moofie · · Score: 1

      Somebody needs a hug. C'mere, big guy.

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  6. Pretty conceited... by tbase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Update: Within an hour of posting the story, and the screenshot we took as evidence, Apple altered the HTML to replace g5 with g4. Don't hang around, do they?

    Considering this has been on every tech and gadget site all morning, I think it's pretty conceited of them to think their story is what prompted Apple to make the "correction".

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    1. Re:Pretty conceited... by HeghmoH · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Pretty cynical of you to think that their simple mention of the timing was actually trying to take credit for the change.

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    2. Re:Pretty conceited... by torpor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pretty conceited of you to extend the adjunct on cynicism through evaluative assessment of his criticism ..

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    3. Re:Pretty conceited... by RatBastard · · Score: 1

      No, not really. You have to remember that they are a rather tongue-in-cheek site. I suspect it's more humor than hubris.

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    4. Re:Pretty conceited... by bhsx · · Score: 1

      My head just exploded. I swear to God.

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    5. Re:Pretty conceited... by bw5353 · · Score: 1

      Oh, behave! You're both really pretty. Can I get an autographed photo of the two of you?

  7. In other news by vivek7006 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Billy G has a hidden clue in his webpage leading to looooonghorn http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/default.asp/

  8. Where's the Beef? by fname · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I mean, c'mon! A web bug was found on a page at Apple that has PowerBookG5 in the filename? Please explain to me, using small words so I can understand, how this points to the PowerBook G5 being released "very soon."

    1. Re:Where's the Beef? by _xeno_ · · Score: 5, Informative

      On that subject, I'm confused what the article author means by: "As we've said, it could be an error, but with two separate files both using containing the sub-string _g5_, one on Apple's site, the other on Avenue A's, this seems unlikely."

      I'm guessing what he means is that the file "apple_g5_powerbook" appears to exist on the target server.

      Well, "http://switch.atdmt.com/action/i bet any damn string will work here and the register is just freaking stupid" works, and "http://switch.atdmt.com/action/tony smith is a wanker" seems OK too. Obviously they were already prepared for this story!

      Or, of course, the bug accepts any input string and just dumps a 1x1 transparent GIF.

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    2. Re:Where's the Beef? by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 1
      Please explain to me, using small words so I can understand, how this points to the PowerBook G5 being released "very soon."

      From TA:

      The timing also appears to tie in with reports from sources within Apple's Far Eastern notebook contract manufacturers that the PowerBook G5 is scheduled to ship sometime in Q2.

      So, rumor says Q2, which is pretty soon. Whether or not you think the web bug "appears to tie-in" is the rumor-mill equivalent of a Roshak ink blot test.

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    3. Re:Where's the Beef? by mandos · · Score: 1

      Not sure about soon. I think their next major conference is in August. My predictions are that they'll announce a fully 64 bit OS that dynamically runs 32bit programs as 64bit, a G5 mini and G5 Powerbooks. Oh yeah, and 3.0GHz G5's or the performance equivlents. Nothing with the iPod though, other then to mention its succuess. This is just speculation on my part based off of what I've read here and seen Apple do in the past. Should be a good year. My other prediciton is that in 2006 they'll have 10+% marketshare and Cell based Macs. =) Just some ideas.

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    4. Re:Where's the Beef? by jr87 · · Score: 1

      actually it's in july so let's all get our hopes up.... :-P

    5. Re:Where's the Beef? by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1

      WWDC is in June, MWNY is in July. Not sure about MWTokyo which was around Feb/March.
      oh, and keep dreaming.

    6. Re:Where's the Beef? by libra-dragon · · Score: 2, Informative

      No one is implying that a file/folder named "apple_g5_powerbook" exists on switch.atdmt.com. The intent is not to display a 1 x 1 GIF. The real intent is to gather the number of hits to a particular page at apple.com. Upon every access to that page a subsequent access is made to switch.atdmt.com. Avenue A doesn't need to import Apple's enormous weblogs into a tool like WebTrends with this method. Similar to the way that WebTrends Live works.

    7. Re:Where's the Beef? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok, so what about this then? http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20050114A7040.ht ml

    8. Re:Where's the Beef? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Don't forget NAB, Las Vegas April 16-21. Not high odds that Apple would announce a PB there, but they have announced broadcast related technology there on a regular basis. And a G5 PB would be of great interest to people in broadcast.

      Personally, I think this is where we'll finally see "asteroid", the breakout box that some believe is specifically for Garage Band. IIRC, it had two XLR plugs, which should be proof that it will be pitched at a market a bit higher than the home user/hobbyist. I don't know of anyone other than a serious musician or pro (or a really serious amateur videographer) that would have equipment (mics, mixing boards) with XLR connects.

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    9. Re:Where's the Beef? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God I hate Tony Smith.

    10. Re:Where's the Beef? by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      To repeat the quote from the article:

      As we've said, it could be an error, but with two separate files both using containing the sub-string _g5_, one on Apple's site, the other on Avenue A's, this seems unlikely.

      That seems to be directly implying that Tony Smith (the article author) thinks that the file exists on Avenue A's site. Clearly any string you pass will result in a 1x1 gif. Therefore, the typo was only on Apple's site.

      And, yes, I know how web bugs work. I'd assume somewhere, someone is going to be looking at a very weird list of requests, wondering what on earth is up with all these apple_g6_powerbook hits.

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  9. Wait and see by northcat · · Score: 1

    I'd like to see how Apple is going sue The Register on this one.

    1. Re:Wait and see by nathanhart · · Score: 1

      If someone can sue for haveing hot coffee spilled on them, or McDonalds makeing them too fat, then I am sure Apple can sue them somehow :-/

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    2. Re:Wait and see by Slack3r78 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Given The Register didn't ask anyone to break and NDA and the source of their information is rather clearly posted on the page, I don't think they have anything to worry about.

      Remember, the Think Secret case is primarilly about compelling Think Secret to reveal the source of their information so that Apple can enforce their NDA with that person.

    3. Re:Wait and see by danheskett · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You know, I hear that claptrap about the hot coffee and McDonalds business, and it's mind numbing.

      There may or may not be a situation with tort problems in the US. But, just so you know some facts about the coffee case:

      1. McDonalds was aware before the incident in question that it's coffee was beyond drinkabily hot.

      2. McDonalds actively choose to brew it's coffee as hot as it did because you can get more coffee per pound of beans.

      3. McDonalds sold its coffee at about 40 to 45 degrees hotter than most other competitors.

      4. McDonalds knew of the problem: they'd be made aware of 700 cases of burining in the previous 10 years.

      5. McDonalds admitted during trial that the coffee was too hot for consumption.

      For more information:

      Check this page out

    4. Re:Wait and see by b-baggins · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So, of course, it's therefore McDonald's fault that some idiot spilled really hot coffee on her lap and got burns.. Life is so nice when everything that happens to you is sombody else's fault. You never have to grow up, and people come and tell you how to extort money for only a small percentage in fees.

      And, of course, soon we'll live in a utopia where all drinks must be lukewarm, all hard surfaces must be cushioned, and your state nanny must walk everywhere with her hand on your arm, just to keep you safe.

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    5. Re:Wait and see by russotto · · Score: 1

      That Mythbusters page comes direct from a "fact sheet" prepared by the American Trial Lawyers Association.

      "Fact" #2 is obviously false. (while immersing your skin in a large tank of 180 degree coffee might do it, merely spilling it on yourself would not)

      "Fact" #6 is misleading. They had 700 _complaints_ about burns.... in several billion cups of coffee sold.

      The whole purpose of the "fact sheet" is to try to make something people are very familiar with -- a few ounces of impure water -- into something mysteeerious (waves fingers) and scary. But when it comes down to it, people deal with similar amounts of even hotter impure water all the time, without routinely getting third degree burns from it.

    6. Re:Wait and see by SlamMan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First, the parent to your complaint was incorrect, brewing coffee hotter doe snot let you get more coffee per pound of bean.

      Second, its not an issue that somebody spilled their coffee, its that McDonalds sold a product that could not be consumed and was in fact dangerous in its sold form.

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    7. Re:Wait and see by danheskett · · Score: 1

      I was the parent, and I was not incorrect. At trial expert witnesses testified conclusively that brewing coffee at 185 degrees allowed a significant increase in the amount of coffee per pound of bean. Two key memos were introduced into evidence which showed that not only was this true, but that McDonalds knew about it, and weighed the costs against the injuries they knew were happening.

    8. Re:Wait and see by danheskett · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Fact" #2 is obviously false. (while immersing your skin in a large tank of 180 degree coffee might do it, merely spilling it on yourself would not)
      Well, two experts in thermodynamics - including one professor and McDonalds own expert - concluded at trial that 2 seconds of contact is more than sufficent to cause 3rd degree burns on the contacted skin. 180-190 degrees is clearly sufficent - as proven by the photos jurors were shown - to cause significant burning. 6% of the womans body was burned to 3rd degree level. Are you disputing that the harm was done to the woman by coffee?

      Fact" #6 is misleading. They had 700 _complaints_ about burns.... in several billion cups of coffee sold.
      No. They settled 700 cases regarding burns in the US, in 10 years. Those are actual people who filed suits and recieved settlements. The number of actual burns stands to be much, much higher.

      The one link I provided was probably insufficent. There are many. McDonalds was clearly callous in its actions.

      http://www.accidentline.com/McDonalds.htm http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:30657179&dq=c ache:www.law4business.com/justice-lawyer-lawsuit-f aq.htm http://www.vamedmal.com/mainpages/FAQ.htm http://www.omnology.com/mcds.html http://quellerfisher.ljextra.com/liebeck.html http://web.langston.com/Fun_People/1997/1997BCY.ht ml http://www.bhm.tis.net/jury/corner/dec09b.html http://insuranceattorney.com/McDonaldsCoffeeSpill. htm http://www.andrewprince.com/SOMECOLDarticle3.html

      The bottom line is that (1) McDonalds was well aware that they served coffee to hot to consume - you can't drink coffee at that temperature. (2) McDonalds was well aware that people were being burned reguarly and severly by the coffee. (3) McDonalds considered dropping the temperature of the coffee, but decided that it would decrease yield from coffee beans and therefore declined to drop the temperature. (4) Decision in #3 was made at the highest levels of McDonalds management. (5) The woman in question asked only for McDonalds to cover medical expenses including skin grafting. McDonalds offered the cost of the ambulance ride and emergency room visit only, $800.

      But when it comes down to it, people deal with similar amounts of even hotter impure water all the time, without routinely getting third degree burns from it.
      The evidence seems to contradict your findings. If you could provide evidence of someone not being burned seriously by direct contact with 190 degree coffee or impure water for 2 seconds, then I'll happily retract.

    9. Re:Wait and see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      some idiot spilled really hot coffee on her lap

      Some idiot? And you've never accidently butterfingered an object you were holding? Hey, dickhead! Your dickheadedness is showing!

    10. Re:Wait and see by russotto · · Score: 1

      I've spilled just-off-boiling water on myself often enough to know that the fear engendered by the American Trial Lawyers Association is overblown. The "burns in 2 seconds" is based on contact with 180 degree water that _remains at 180_; spilled coffee will not.

      The elephant in the refrigerator that everyone concerned ignores is that some people are more sensitive to burns than others, and the elderly are among the most sensitive. Also that (obviously) some parts of the body are more sensitive than others.

    11. Re:Wait and see by danheskett · · Score: 1

      Water that is 180-190 degrees will remain that hot - or close enough to it - for 2 seconds while the burns are inflicted.

      I do not ignore the fact that some are more sensitive than others to hot water/coffee. It does not change the fact that McDonalds sold a defective product.

  10. Free Advertising, All Around! by goldspider · · Score: 4, Funny

    So The Register gives Apple free advertising, and Slashdot gives The Register free advertising.

    I'll be looking for the Slashdot links on Apple's website... you know, to complete the circle.

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    1. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're absolutely right. Slashdot and The Register should both avoid any stories that mention marketed products or brand names. I'm sure they're all being paid off. Good eye there, sport.

    2. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Apple to Introduce Latest iSuck" - Less powerful, more expensive, but pretty. Pictures at eleven.

    3. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      Apple will just sue someone and then a whole bunch of people will come to Slashdot to read the resulting "Your Rights Online" article and join in the comment reading, posting, and trolling. :)

      In that way, Apple will indirectly give Slashdot more hits. :)

      Apple suing people gets them a lot of attention and they do it quite often it seems.

      Perhaps they should hire a "designated defendant". :)

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    4. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe they just gave the editors free powerbooks?

    5. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by mandos · · Score: 1

      I thought webrings died in like '97....

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    6. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are these ads you speak of? I thought they died out with Prixovy and later Firefox/AdBlock . . .

    7. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought using the word "like", as you have in your sentence, died in junior high.

    8. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Apple to Introduce Latest iSuck" - Less powerful, more expensive, but pretty. Pictures at eleven.

      The iSuck has been shelved. During R&D Lab tests a testicle or two were inadvertently EOL'd due to the wide variety of the users girth.

    9. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Slashdot only runs Microsoft advertisements, and is happy to take the money.

      Integrity? I don't know what you're talking about.

    10. Re:Free Advertising, All Around! by NivenHuH · · Score: 1
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  11. careful! by Antonymous+Flower · · Score: 1

    What is the difference between the register stating a rumor of a product and some kid(Nick dePlume) stating a rumor for a product?
    see: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/12/20 52258&tid=123&tid=149&tid=3

    1. Re:careful! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Register - looked at the source of a web page.

      *Some Kid* - possibly induced others to break NDAs.

      I'm not saying that the kid did anything wrong - i think the whole thing is a bit ridiculous. But there is a difference between the two is all.

    2. Re:careful! by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      Kid published NDA information obtained by violation of an NDA contract.

      Register looked at publicly accessable source.

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    3. Re:careful! by yabos · · Score: 1

      The difference is between soliciting for trade secrets and looking at HTML source.

    4. Re:careful! by Slack3r78 · · Score: 1

      The difference is Apple had publicly published this information (whether they meant to or not), while DePlume was soliciting information that was protected under NDA.

      A large part of the Think Secret case revolves around compelling him to identify his source so that Apple can persue NDA enforcement against that individual.

    5. Re:careful! by mattyrobinson69 · · Score: 1

      A lot of people read the register, a lot of potential apple customers. If apple were to sue the register, they'd never live that down.

    6. Re:careful! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't like the First Amendment very much, do you?

    7. Re:careful! by Slack3r78 · · Score: 1

      Quite the contrary. However, the First Ammendment limits the powers of government. Secondly, NDAs are a matter of contract law, and Think Secret was actively encouraging people to break their contracts with Apple. I think Apple has the right to know who it was that broke the contract they held.

  12. Slashdot has always posted rumors by Infonaut · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I wasn't aware that this was a Mac rumors site. I thought it was Slashdot (News for Nerds/Stuff that Matters + iPods)?

    Rumors have always been fodder for Slashdot. Linux, Microsoft, Sun, Transmeta, Intel, AMD, XM/Sirius, and today it's Apple.

    There are a lot of articles that don't really interest me, but that doesn't mean that they don't matter to other readers.

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    1. Re:Slashdot has always posted rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A rumor is a rumor. This stuff is no more than FUD. An image had the tag g5 in it instead of g4, OMFG IT MEANS SOEMTHING111!!1tehoneoneone

    2. Re:Slashdot has always posted rumors by Seehund · · Score: 1

      This stuff is no more than FUD.

      Have you seen a professional about your phobia? It's not normal to feel fear, uncertainty and doubt when looking at a GIF image and reading speculation about a future computer product. ;)

      I don't think you know what the negative marketing technique known as "FUD" means.

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    3. Re:Slashdot has always posted rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a lot of articles that don't really interest me, but that doesn't mean that they don't matter to other readers. ...but obviously, this article was of interest to you, since you got this far ;)

    4. Re:Slashdot has always posted rumors by conteXXt · · Score: 3, Funny

      you must be new.

      since you're new here are the de-facto rules:

      1. Never talk bad about Apple.
      2. Microsoft is bad (expound exponentially on this point)
      3. ????

      4. profit.(from old Korean hot grit Natalie Portman soviet russia, welcoming our new (#3) overlords, all you base, and I am sure that I'll be reminded of what I missed.)

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    5. Re:Slashdot has always posted rumors by CmdrTostado · · Score: 1

      you missed
      ...except in Nebraska...

    6. Re:Slashdot has always posted rumors by Shambhu · · Score: 1

      You missed the most important and easily-offended one of all... ... you insensitive clod!

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  13. Microsoft Releasing Office 200e! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Look, right here:

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    <img src="ms_office_200e.gif" width="1" height="1">
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    We're sure this is really suggesting the release of Office 200e, and not just a typo for Office 2004! Whoops, typo, I mean Office 2003!

    I mean, really. It can't possibly be a typo for "g4" and MUST forshadow the imminent release of a G5 PowerBook!

    1. Re:Microsoft Releasing Office 200e! by Shag · · Score: 1

      Office 2003? That's for Windows. Office 2004 is Mac-only. ;)

      -Dan

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  14. Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw that article just before it hit Slashdot and I thought to myself, "You know I bet those crazed Slashbots are going to go and post this even though it's complete unsubstatiated wishful zealot thinking." Sure enough they didn't waste any time doing so.

  15. correct link form article by minus_273 · · Score: 5, Funny

    if you want to see what the PB g5 looks like now, go directly to the marketing site . I think the details should be self explanatory

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    1. Re:correct link form article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, can't wait till I get my hands on one.

    2. Re:correct link form article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The resolution of the image is problematic, but yep, there it is.

    3. Re:correct link form article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! It's so tiny!

    4. Re:correct link form article by bwalling · · Score: 3, Funny

      Man, it looks a lot like the soon to arrive PowerBook G6!

    5. Re:correct link form article by gmaestro · · Score: 1
      Man, it looks a lot like the soon to arrive PowerBook G6!

      Bah! I won't upgrade until the powerbook GX!

    6. Re:correct link form article by Chief+Typist · · Score: 1

      I bet they'll be calling this model the PowerBook G5 mini

      -ch

  16. Also noticed... by no_opinion · · Score: 4, Funny

    A 1x1 jpeg for the new iWarmer - a special USB powered heatsink for the G5 laptop that doubles as a drink warmer.

    1. Re:Also noticed... by kuwan · · Score: 1

      USB powered??? Drink warmer???

      The heatsink for a G5 laptop could power your XBox and double as a grill. Rather than resting your hands below the keyboard you can grill up steak and eggs.

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  17. the answer: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Register probably won't be sued.

  18. An Indicator by DreadPiratePizz · · Score: 1

    I think this probably DOES indicate something, because why change it so quickly if it's burried in the HTML and working just fine?

    1. Re:An Indicator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's an error (if it ever was there). This is most certainly not front page Slashdot news. It should be in the Apple section (only) as the unsubstantiatde rumor and innuedo it is. I feel sorry for the lowly tech who works at that Ad agency and didn't know the PowerBook and Power Mac use different processors (right now). He's probably get a pretty mean flogging from management. Hell!

    2. Re:An Indicator by remahl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because the possible mis-spelling was picked up by several major technology news-sites as an indication that the PowerBook G5 is just around the corner. Apple reiterated the statement that the PBG5 is still way off at MacWorld (the quarterly report). It is obviously not in their interest that the public is expecting a PBG5 any day now, since the PBG4 sales will suffer. With the damage already done, the best they could do was to remove the error/hint from their page.

    3. Re:An Indicator by KKin8or · · Score: 1
      If it is used to track page visit stats, having the URL to the gif posted on massive numbers of websites would totally skew their results. All these people looking at the 1x1 transparent gif and not at the powerbook page. (Myself included)

      Regardless of whether it's a typo or not, they'd want to change it just so they could continue getting halfway-reliable stats.

  19. Hidden clues to G666... in backwards audio tracks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I play the audio of an Apple TV advertisement backwards, will I hear a Beastly voice promising me a G666 PowerBook?

    Professor Jonathan Vos Post

  20. Of Course by captnitro · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, no, you've all got it wrong. They're definitely going to have Powerbooks out earlier than expected, probably as soon as next week! And the new versions will feature a magical box that turns dirt into pictures of Jennifer Love Hewitt's tits that print money -- STANDARD!!

    How do I know? Well, I just bought a Powerbook.

    1. Re:Of Course by djward · · Score: 1

      tits that print money

      So, green ink in the left one and black in the right?

      Built-in eraser nubbins in case a mistake is printed.

  21. Re:Oh sweet jebus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't refer to Steve as "some creepy guy". He's rather attractive in a slick, marketroid sort of way.
    Now Ballmer's a different story...

  22. Re:Oh sweet jebus by argent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the holy grail of computing

    I think you mean "this is the flaming grail-shaped beacon of computing". And by "flaming" I mean "this will bake your lap from a foor away".

    Apple would be nuts to go with a PB G5 before releasing one using the dual-core G4... which would be both cooler and clock-for-clock more powerful than a G5.

  23. Jeez man by paranode · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shut your iHole...

    1. Re:Jeez man by SpinJaunt · · Score: 1
      Shut your iHole...

      A few anagrams come to mind...
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  24. They're basing this on a 1x1 image... by Ayaress · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's on the server that hosts advertisements, it's a 1x1 invisible placeholder. Apple most likely did not name it that, the ad people (Avenue A, atdmt.com) did.

    Once, about three years ago, I noticed one of these images on my ISP's web page with a file name something like XXXLESBIANPORNROMGAYWAREZMP3NAPSTERDOWNLOADZ.gif. I didn't assume that SBC was going to get into the internet porn or fileswapping business, I assumed that an ad agency used a few key words for one reason or another.

    1. Re:They're basing this on a 1x1 image... by slamb · · Score: 1
      It's on the server that hosts advertisements, it's a 1x1 invisible placeholder. Apple most likely did not name it that, the ad people (Avenue A, atdmt.com) did.

      Actually, I believe Apple named it, but it was probably a typo. Avenue A's site is set up to send out a 1x1 GIF image to any request. Unless you believe the Apple G6 Powerbook is coming out soon also...

      Think about it. They announced a lot of other products two weeks ago. They traditionally announce products at that time. Would it make sense for them to start rolling out a Apple G5 Powerbook now?

    2. Re:They're basing this on a 1x1 image... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually yes, it would. "Traditionally", powerbook announcements have been mostly separate from whatever expos and developer conferences that have been going on at the time. 2 weeks is perhaps a little close, but perhaps a month from now or so...

    3. Re:They're basing this on a 1x1 image... by BRSloth · · Score: 1

      Once, about three years ago, I noticed one of these images on my ISP's web page with a file name something like XXXLESBIANPORNROMGAYWAREZMP3NAPSTERDOWNLOADZ.gif. I didn't assume that SBC was going to get into the internet porn or fileswapping business, I assumed that an ad agency used a few key words for one reason or another.

      Well, this was there probably as a bait for search engines. So people who google por "LESBIANPORN" would get your ISP page.

      Maybe that was the tactic: add an image with "powerbook_g5" and wait for referrers to get an idea of how much people are waiting for a powerbook g5.

      IANASES (I Am Not A Search Engineer Specialist), but I'm a dreamer :)

  25. Media magnet by mushupork · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am impressed by the amount of attention little ol' Apple can generate with mainstream and tech media alike. Perhaps we are at the dawn of a time when Apple begins to retake their market share, perhaps (gasp) getting back nto the double-digits in the next few years?

    People are sick and tired of Windoze methinks.

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    1. Re:Media magnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      People are sick and tired of Windoze methinks.


      You're damned right about that.. and if they'd hurry up and refresh the G5 tower configuration I'd buy one promptly.

    2. Re:Media magnet by chrome · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The fact of the matter is that no matter how much people on /. bag apple for suing leakers etc, for less than The Most Powerful 64-bit etc ... everyone knows that deep down Apple's stuff is just better than Microsofts'.

      Apple have embraced Open Source software throughout their product - every mac comes with apache installed for instance, UNIX, 64 bit computing ... all the things that /.ers hold near and dear.

      While everyone loves to bash Apple, especially considering their past, most people realise that the products they are putting out are pretty damn good.

      I waited til 10.1 came out before I bought my first PB 15", and havn't looked back since. I can do pretty much anything I could do with a intel box running linux, plus much more - and it has a GUI that is well thought out and works well. You really need to try it.

      A mate here at work was pleasantly surprised when I showed him how ANY application that makes use of the Aqua text entry boxes gets spell checking as you type as a standard feature. I think he realised there is a nice side to having an OS that is designed relatively cleaning from the bottom up.

      Most of the geeks I know who never owned a mac before, are now considering a Mac Mini, because its cheap and can be used in a lot of ways - plus its like, not windows. I would hazard a guess that this is Apples evil plan, and before long all those geeks will be queuing up for iBooks and PowerBooks.

      And in turn, the masses will follow. Because in the land of computing, the masses always follow the geeks.

    3. Re:Media magnet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Because in the land of computing, the masses always follow the geeks.

      If by land of computing you mean the game scene and by masses follow geeks you mean lemmings, than yes!

  26. it MUST be true! by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 4, Funny
    Look what else is on its way any time now.

    It's on a web page, so you know it's true.

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    1. Re:it MUST be true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, this is funny. I did a search for "any time now" on google, and below are the results. You'll see the last result on the FIRST page of that search is an OSX rumor. Ha!

      Amazon.com: Music: Any Time Now [LIVE]... Any Time Now [LIVE] OAR ... 1 person recommended Hang Around in addition to Any Time Now [LIVE]; 1 person recommended Hang Around instead of Any Time Now [LIVE]. ...
      www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/detail/-/B000066ALY?v=glance - 66k - Cached - Similar pages

      ABC Television: Program summary - Any Time Now:... Program summary. Any Time Now. ... Recommend to a friend. The drama, heartbreak and misfortune continue in this week's episode of Any Time Now. ...
      www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/ netw/200501/highlights/247742.htm - 18k - Jan 26, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

      BBC - Northern Ireland - Drama - Any Time Now... About Any Time Now. Susan lynch, Angeline Ball, and Zara Turner star in Any Time Now, a new Irish contemporary six-part drama series ...
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      BBC - Drama - Any Time NowRead a feature on BBC drama Any Time Now, starring Angeline Ball, Zara Turner and Susan Lynch. ... Any Time Now Broadcast August 2002, BBC ONE. ...
      www.bbc.co.uk/drama/any_time_now.shtml - 21k - Cached - Similar pages
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      Any Time Now by OAR on LAUNCH... OAR Fans. VISIT: Get Ringtones. Get Concert Tickets. OAR. Any Time Now. Label: Atlantic. Genres: Rock. Your Album Rating: Track, Rate Song. 1. City On Down (Live ...
      launch.yahoo.com/release/7340074 - 39k - Cached - Similar pages

      Any Time Now - TV & Radio - www.smh.com.au... www.smh.com.au. FILM; TV & RADIO; MUSIC; ARTS; BOOKS; FASHION; GOOD LIVING; PEOPLE. Any Time Now. By Greg Hassall December 30, 2004. Page Tools. ...
      www.smh.com.au/news/TV--Radio/ Any-Time-Now/2004/12/29/1103996595060.html - Similar pages

      The Music Box: OAR - Any Time Now (Album Review)This is a review of OAR's Any Time Now at The Music Box - an online music magazine featuring music news, tour info, concert & album reviews, and interviews. ...
      www.musicbox-online.com/oar-time.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

      Any Time Now | TV ONE PROGRAMMES | TV ONE | tvnz.co.nz... Any Time Now. ...
      tvnz.co.nz/view/tvone_story_skin/449527?forma t=htm l - 73k - Cached - Similar pages

      OAR (OF A REVOLUTION) LYRICS - Any Time NowOAR (OF A REVOLUTION) LYRICS "Any Time Now" Any time now I'm gonna wake up and see the day. Any time now I'm gonna wake up and find my way. ...
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      OSXAudio -- View topic - 4.52 Coming "any time now"OSXAudio Forum Index -> Digital Performer Topic: 4.52 Coming "any time now". Author, Thread, ...
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  27. Stevenote by Vollernurd · · Score: 1

    ... and Steve "forgot" to mention this at that show a couple of weeks back? C'mon, that little gif means dick.

    I am bitter because 4 days ago I bought a nice new shiny Powerbook. G4. Gah.

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    1. Re:Stevenote by PriceIke · · Score: 1

      I am about to buy a new Powerbook G4. I am afraid the rumors are true, folks. Apple takes its hardware release date cues directly from my purchasing decisions. The Powerbook G5 is imminent .. as is the requisite slashing of all Powerbook G4 prices across the board. They're just waiting for my signal.

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    2. Re:Stevenote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um actually they will announce new G4 Powerbooks and eMacs within 1 week. So I would wait if I were you!

    3. Re:Stevenote by geoffspear · · Score: 2, Funny

      Could you buy a G5 powermac instead? I want to get my hands on a G6 next week.

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  28. Supidity != Ego-stroking by MattHaffner · · Score: 1

    Uh, maybe 'cause the sources for the rumors likely knowingly and deliberately broke their personally signed NDAs? Said kid may or may not have been involved in urging NDAs to be broken?

    I don't think the Register was actively involved in nudging a web site designer to put this typo or slip-up on Apple's web site. In addition, if it's indeed a precursor to the product, someone did it through negligence, not through conscious choice. Kind of like if someone had accidentally mailed me a mini the week before the keynote. (Hey, I can dream, can't I?) Plus, the Register gives full credit to their source for the info, namely, Apple's own web site.

    Then again, maybe it's an elaborate scheme to prime data for someone's dissertation in social engineering.

    1. Re:Supidity != Ego-stroking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Uh, maybe 'cause the sources for the rumors likely knowingly and deliberately broke their personally signed NDA"

      Speculation.

      "Said kid may or may not have been involved in urging NDAs to be broken?"

      Said kid may or may not be a space alien.

      Said kid may or may not be involved in capitol crimes, involving treason, kidnapping, and murder.

      See how easy that game is to play?

    2. Re:Supidity != Ego-stroking by MattHaffner · · Score: 1

      Speculation.

      From me? You bet. I'm not Apple.

      And maybe it's speculation on Apple's part, but they know their own information stream better than I. It's probably in the realm of "darn good educated guess" from their perspective, which may force their hand somewhat lest they incur the wrath of the shareholders who'd like their share value to rise as high as possible with surprise announcements.

      But that's just more speculation on my part.

  29. Re:Oh sweet jebus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good lord, I saw some of those Steve Ballmer movies recently. The monkey dance and "Developers, developers, developers, developers" .. the man is really frightening.

  30. Where's the dual-core G4 powerbook? by argent · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A dual-core G4 would be cooler and clock-for-clock faster than the G5. Apple would be nuts to put a case-melting G5 in a PB before they take advantage of the new dual-core G4...

    1. Re:Where's the dual-core G4 powerbook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesu Christo!
      How many fucking times are you going to post this?
      Do you think Steve Jobs is sitting in his fortress of solitude reading slashdot "Stop the manufacture of the Powerbook G5!! Stop it now! A semi-anonymous nerd on slashdot.org says we'd be nuts to put a G5 in a notebook. I'd be nuts not ot believe that person."
      Nobody gives a shit what you think, especially Apple.

    2. Re:Where's the dual-core G4 powerbook? by argent · · Score: 1

      How many fucking times are you going to post this?

      Once for each time I get an error back from my proxy saying it didn't get posted. Plus one.

      Boy, you have a low frigging redundancy threshold. What happens to your brain when Slashdot posts a whole story twice, not just a followup.

    3. Re:Where's the dual-core G4 powerbook? by NoodleSlayer · · Score: 1

      Except that a G4 is 32-bit and a G5 is 64-bit and Apple would rather have their faster machines on the 64-bit platform that they will eventually have all supported macs on...

    4. Re:Where's the dual-core G4 powerbook? by argent · · Score: 1

      There has been precisely one 64-bit system that was designed from the ground up for a 64-bit environment. I was using it back when Apple was still fiddling around with the 68000-PPC transition.

      And even there you could easily mix and match 32- and 64- bit applications. ANd the only applications that needed to be 64 bit, well, they were doing things that were so far from what anyone's doing on desktops it's not funny.

      Every other platform is a 32/64 bit medley, and there's still a tiny fractin of applications... a decade later... that really need to be in 64-bit mode on Tru64.

      So.

      The 64-bitness of the G5 means absolutely nothing, at this point, and for the anticipated product lifespan of any product Apple's going to be using the dual G4 in. Hell, Apple still doesn't have a G5 that provides more than 32-bits worth of RAM per processor.

      You know what I think, I think Apple will call the dual G4 a G5 on the basis of its memory architecture. And on the basis of it kicking the butt of any single-CPU G5 boxes...

    5. Re:Where's the dual-core G4 powerbook? by mallie_mcg · · Score: 1

      A dual-core G4 would be cooler and clock-for-clock faster than the G5. Apple would be nuts to put a case-melting G5 in a PB before they take advantage of the new dual-core G4...

      Excuse me but that is just pure 100% shit. The prescott from intel draws more power than the G5. I'm not saying that it is a cool chip but certainly comparable to an Athlon FX class CPU for power usage. Apple went with the whole liquid cooling as a means of being EFFICIENT and QUIET.

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    6. Re:Where's the dual-core G4 powerbook? by argent · · Score: 1

      The prescott from intel draws more power than the G5.

      For a notebook, that's damning with faint praise. Consider this comment from a review of the ASUS l5GA barebones notebook:

      The ASUS L5GA is a barebones laptop, so you will need to install the CPU, memory, and hard drive. For the CPU you can use any Pentium IV 800MHZ front side bus processor. This includes processors built on the Northwood, Prescott, an Extreme Edition core. However, at this time will Northwood cores are still available. I recommend them over the Prescott cores due to the additional heat Prescotts generate and the additional price premium for performance that is roughly equivalent to Northwoods.

  31. How is this a shock? by sulli · · Score: 4, Funny
    There will clearly be a Powerbook G5. Just as there were a PowerBook G3 and G4. What is the big news here?

    A G5 Mac Mini, or a Powerbook shuffle, now that would be news. Or a Newton OS Mac PDA phone iPod Airport Express thingy with no broadcast flag and dual processors. But aren't exactly banner headlines.

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    1. Re:How is this a shock? by nine-times · · Score: 1
      Or a Newton OS Mac PDA phone iPod Airport Express thingy with no broadcast flag and dual processors.

      You forgot to insert the words "Extreme" or "mini". This product wouldn't be news unless it's the "Newton OS Mac PDA phone iPod Airport Express thingy Extreme mini".

    2. Re:How is this a shock? by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Odds are pretty good if there was a new MacPDA it would run BSD with a pretty Aqua like interface. I am guessing about the only thing that would come from the newton would be the handwriting engine. I have to admit that a Mac/iPod/PDA/Phone/Remote control would be pretty sweet :)

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    3. Re:How is this a shock? by PureCreditor · · Score: 1

      powerbook shuffle ? it loads files randomly? you want an excel and they give you a powerpoint instead ?

    4. Re:How is this a shock? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      I think this would pretty effectively sew up the ADHD market.

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  32. POWER5 (aka "G6" or perhaps "G7") anyone? by leoxx · · Score: 2

    I want a dual POWER5 IBM OpenPower 710! Not as portable as a PowerBook, but damn is that one sweet box.

  33. Editors....READ ENGADGET FOR ONCE! by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

    JEESH! This was HOURS ago. Engadget had it and with in minutes the link had been changed. The Engadget users theorized that this was a COPY/PASTE error. Ie, when they were working on redesigning the pages, the copied the iMac_G5 link and edited it to say Powerbook_g5 and realized they messed up once someone looked at the referer logs to see where everyone was coming from and then read Engadget and whups! Let's Change it! :D Anyway, this is just a 1x1 Marketing tracker image and it does not mean the Powerbook G5 release is next Tuesday. Although I hope I am wrong and it IS out next Tuesday! :D

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    1. Re:Editors....READ ENGADGET FOR ONCE! by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      It may well be relative, but you look like a moron for complaining about a story that is a few hours old being too old to be news.

      There are plenty of well regarded magazines that still publish news on a monthly basis.

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  34. So what? Doesnt indicate anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The advertisers site is setup, so that any request for a 1x1 image will return the same (regardless if its an incorrect request) - probably to stop important web pages screwing up if a web developer enters the url to the image incorrectly.
    So guess what could have happened here...the apple web developer adds these little tracker images, most of them with the 'g5' word. He gets to the powerbook page and sticks 'g5' like the others (after all, its all fairly boring and easy to loose concentration). The developer wouldnt notice the mistake till the advertising stats came back or someone told him e.g. slashdot/theReg

  35. oops by sulli · · Score: 1
    upgraded processors aren't exactly banner headlines.

    Damn slashdot lameness-adding-filter.

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  36. Funnier: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That Slashdotters think it's okay that Mac is suing one of their biggest fans, when if Microsoft did the exact same thing under the same circumstances, they'd be screaming for "M$'s" head.

    Thank god their opinions don't matter.

    1. Re:Funnier: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The company is Apple, not Mac. Is that so hard to understand? And really, who on slashdot would find any sympathy for Microsoft's biggest fan?

    2. Re:Funnier: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's actually a nice sign of a troll. If the company is called Mac (or even more obvious: MAC) you know you're dealing with one.

  37. Re:who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure I follow...are you saying that your grandmother has more wisdom and better taste than you do?

  38. I dont get it... by Kenja · · Score: 2, Insightful

    at the same clock speed, what does the G5 offer over the G4? Unless Apple plans on going 100% 64bit OS in the next year (leaving all the current customers in the brink) I dont realy see the point.

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    1. Re:I dont get it... by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Funny
      If you live in Minnesota, you *need* a G5 laptop.

      My G4 has been doing an admirable job of keeping me warm, but I am always looking for something hotter - preferably something I could make iCocoa with while burning my legs.

      Mmmm. Second degree burns and marshmallows.....

    2. Re:I dont get it... by Kenja · · Score: 1

      Any computer can keep you warm if you have enough hard drives in it. RAID-5 is your friend in the winter.

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    3. Re:I dont get it... by argent · · Score: 1

      at the same clock speed, what does the G5 offer over the G4?

      A longer pipeline (remember the megahertz myth?) and arguably less performance.

    4. Re:I dont get it... by geoffspear · · Score: 1

      My powerbook is an inch thick. I don't think I can fit any more hard drives in it.

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    5. Re:I dont get it... by Dominic_Mazzoni · · Score: 1

      at the same clock speed, what does the G5 offer over the G4?

      A much faster system bus. The 2.0 GHz PowerMac G5 has a 1 GHz system bus. The 1.8 GHz iMac G5 has a 600 MHz bus. Contrast this with the eMac G4 or PowerBook G4, both of which have a 167 MHz system bus. The iBook G4 has only a 133 MHz bus!

      The system bus is what moves data from memory to the processor and back. Lots of Mac applications are bus-limited, rather than processor-limited. The G4 is not designed to handle a fast bus, and the G5 is. Even a 333 MHz bus on a PowerBook G5 would be a dramatic improvement in overall speed for many applications, even for the same clock speed as the G4.

      Oh, by the way, the fastest PC only has a 533 MHz bus; most have only 400 MHz or less (though all have more than 167 MHz). That's one reason why the Power Mac G5 overall is just as fast, if not faster, than many PCs with faster processors.

    6. Re:I dont get it... by 10Ghz · · Score: 1
      A much faster system bus. The 2.0 GHz PowerMac G5 has a 1 GHz system bus. The 1.8 GHz iMac G5 has a 600 MHz bus. Contrast this with the eMac G4 or PowerBook G4, both of which have a 167 MHz system bus. The iBook G4 has only a 133 MHz bus!


      And still, clock for clock, G4 and G5 are more or less equal (I think G4 has an advantage). I find it funny that many people simply stare at the bus-speed and fail to see the fact that even with it's uber-bus, G5 is about as fast as the G4 is (with it's puny bus).

      So yes, G5 has better bus. Too bad that even with that superior bus, it still only about as fast as G4 is (clock for clock). Better bus alone does not make G5 better, since the end-result (performance) is similar to it's predecessor.

      Oh, by the way, the fastest PC only has a 533 MHz bus; most have only 400 MHz or less (though all have more than 167 MHz). That's one reason why the Power Mac G5 overall is just as fast, if not faster, than many PCs with faster processors.


      Put down the crack-pipe! Prescott has 800Mhz bus (it's moving to 1066Mhz bus), and Athlon64/Opteron has 800Mhz bus (moving to 1Ghz). In fact, the bus on the A64/Opteron is alot faster than the bus on G5 is. And why is that? What is it that takes the most bandwidth on a traditional FSB? Accessing the RAM. On the A64/Opteron the CPU has an integrated mem-controller which means that the CPU talks directly with the RAM. That saves a lot of FSB-bandwidth and reduces latency. It saves bandwidth because the FSB (which runs at 800Mhz on the A64/Opteron) is 100% free to serve other purposes. All of it's bandwidth can be used by hard-drives, PCI and AGP-devices, USB, Firewire and the like. On the G5, those devices have to share the FSB with the RAM. On the A64/Opteron, the RAM has a dedicated bus.

      Seriously: Get on the clue-train today!
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  39. Hoax by Bruha · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry guys but I never saw the code however if you fool around with that link you can change it and get a 1x1 gif image no matter what.

    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g4_powerboo k
    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_powerbo ok
    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_37337_pow erbo ok

    All render a image.

    I call shenigans

    1. Re:Hoax by evand · · Score: 1

      I did see the code, and the apple_g5_powerbook line was in it.

  40. This is unlikely to mean anything by adiposity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1). Putting in http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g7_powerbook also yields a 1x1 image. Thus, that it exists on atdmt's site means nothing.

    2). The correct title for this should be http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g4_powerbook, because it is currently on the g4 page (and there is no g4 tracking link, which means it was probably a typo).

    3). It has been now changed to be g4, which is appropriate for the content of the page.

    If apple had a g5 in the works, why would they put this link in a g4 page? It doesn't help them track anything about g5s. This register article is speculative and probably wrong.

    -Dan

    1. Re:This is unlikely to mean anything by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 1
      1.) Putting in http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g7_powerbook also yields a 1x1 image. Thus, that it exists on atdmt's site means nothing.

      This just means Apple's thinking ahead, as usual. I'm sure Steve is well aware of how close his researchers are to portable cold fusion power. Now hold on a minute, while I answer this subpoena...

    2. Re:This is unlikely to mean anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "1). Putting in http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g7_powerbook also yields a 1x1 image"

      Oh man I am *so* ordering one of those PowerbookG7s... I hear they come with antigravity fusion batteries!

    3. Re:This is unlikely to mean anything by EricTheGreen · · Score: 1

      Actually the address itself:

      http://switch.atdmt.com/action/

      yields the same 1 px. image. As does adding any text at all thereafter.

      So for all this demonstrates, some web monkey for Avenue A just got fat-fingered and typed a '5' when he meant a '4'.

      Move along folks. The G5 PB's will be here when they're here...

    4. Re:This is unlikely to mean anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pretty obvious WHY they would have it like that. If you want a notebook NOW and go searching for the G5 notebook you can't buy it yet, but they probably CAN get some impulse buyers to buy the G4 by redirecting g5 searches to that page....so blatantly obvious and sensical the slashdot crowd doesn't know WHAT to make of it....overanalyzing geektards

  41. Lucky, was just going to go out and buy a G4. by chrome · · Score: 1

    It would have been my fourth one! But I will wait until the G5. I'll also wait until after the bugs have been ironed out.

    I have a 1st gen 17" and its a bit whiney.

    1. Re:Lucky, was just going to go out and buy a G4. by AddressException · · Score: 1

      Now, that's a mixed metaphor I can get excited about!
      Mmmm... ironed bugs!

    2. Re:Lucky, was just going to go out and buy a G4. by iJames · · Score: 1
      Likewise, I was just about to go and buy a new car. But I will wait until the flying cars. I'll also wait until after the rest of humanity has died off so there's no traffic.

      I read Slashdot and it's a bit whiney.

  42. Shouldn't apple sue these guys? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will shift the orbit of the earth. Apple is a special company, rumors like this hurt apple and they should be sued. ]

    Whatever apple tells me to believe, that's good enough for me!

    [sorry, this is the best impression I can do of a Mac fanatic]

  43. G5 Teleportation Device!! by lullabud · · Score: 4, Funny
    I saw that Register article about the G5 powerbook and thought "Wow! What if they are planning one??" I checked out Apple's page and the article was right, they fixed the "typo" and now it says G4... But what if there was actually a .gif file on their server that was keeping track of G5 hits...
    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_powerbook
    That says that there IS a G5 powerbook hit-tracking file on the server!! G5 powerbooks are on the way!! Woohoo!!! After I regained consciousness and began to float back down from cloud 9 I thought "Wow! Apple is so awesome and so secret I bet they could even be working on a teleportation device and nobody would know!!"
    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_teleportation _device
    Sure enough, if getting a 1x1 .gif is proof, they ARE working on a teleportation device!! This is FANTASTIC!! I can't wait for Macworld 2006!!
    1. Re:G5 Teleportation Device!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure enough, if getting a 1x1 .gif is proof, they ARE working on a teleportation device!!

      sure enough, they are! this also yields a 1x1 gif :

      http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_teleportati on

    2. Re:G5 Teleportation Device!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh! It's called iTransport and has been worked on for the last 5 years..they are working on it with IBM, check IBMs patent portfolio...this is true..
      http://www.research.ibm.com/quantuminfo/te leportat ion/index.html .so far they can only transport single atoms but with the power of the g5 it shouldn't be long until they figure out the rest.

    3. Re:G5 Teleportation Device!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Well, up until now, Apple has had pretty good standing in the community. But look at this. There is a gif webbug for some other secret projects.

      http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_penis_enlarge ment

      Now we know who is behind all that spam!

    4. Re:G5 Teleportation Device!! by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Dude, they demonstrated the Apple Teleportation Device at Macworld 1984.

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    5. Re:G5 Teleportation Device!! by barnacle · · Score: 1
      They are also working on a death ray. maybe for the military, maybe as a consuler device, to make Jobs ultimate dream come true: true global anarchy

      http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_death_ray

  44. RTFA by johnpaul191 · · Score: 1
    read the article

    As we've said, it could be an error, but with two separate files both using containing the sub-string _g5_, one on Apple's site, the other on Avenue A's, this seems unlikely.


    it's possibly a double typo, or an act of sillyness.... but who knows. it was written that way in two places. i don't think a G5 powerbook is coming anytime soon, and who knows if Avenue A would even have access to such information if it was. obviously somebody that does the Apple site saw it and let it go...

    maybe it's just a funny prank so see if anyone is crazy enough to read the source code. the article has some speculation.
  45. It's official: Steve Jobs is not a tard by Jesus_McNazareth · · Score: 0
    1. Re:It's official: Steve Jobs is not a tard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $229,000 ?? WOW, I pay more then that in TAX

  46. But will it imperil male fertility? by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    Big deal... I mean, to paraphrase Dave Barry, did they convene a focus group to find out what number comes after 4?

    What I want to know is, in these days when a CPU chip puts out more heat than a vacuum tube used to... how are they going to prevent it from toasting ones' manhood, in the case of male customers?

    Is there a way to make an extremely thin, flat, rectangular Dewar flask?

    Will the thing be packed full of chemical gel that is an insulator with a big latent heat of fusion, and you'll pop in in the freezer to chill the gel whenever the battery is charging?

    Will there be a Peltier cooler on the bottom face, and a backpack for a big lead-acid cell to power it?

    1. Re:But will it imperil male fertility? by mickyflynn · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      with Apple customers being mainly women and homosexuals, sperm count is not an issue.

  47. Re:Oh sweet jebus by SilentChris · · Score: 1

    "which would be both cooler and clock-for-clock more powerful than a G5"

    And more expensive. And would eat more precious space in the chassis.

  48. Uhhhh.. by teknokracy · · Score: 1

    On 105% of keyboards, the 4 is next to the 5, so I would imagine it was a typo. Why be monitoring Xserve traffic and PowerMac traffic, then have a completely unrelated product name on the PowerBook G4's site? Logically, since the other GIFs were named properly, shouldnt this one be too?

    1. Re:Uhhhh.. by maztuhblastah · · Score: 1

      On 105% of keyboards, the 4 is next to the 5, so I would imagine it was a typo.

      You mean on 104%...right?

    2. Re:Uhhhh.. by teknokracy · · Score: 1

      Ironically, I just bought a cheap Taiwanese keyboard that had two 7's on it - instead of a 0 on the top number keys, there was a 7! I hear 7's are pretty lucky in Asia, perhaps I've gotten something good? Oh well, it was $9.

    3. Re:Uhhhh.. by geoffspear · · Score: 1

      My keyboard has keys for 1-4, and all the rest of the top row keys are labelled "a suffusion of yellow."

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    4. Re:Uhhhh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      HAHAAHAH

      one of the few comments to ever make me laugh out loud

      Kudos!

    5. Re:Uhhhh.. by Cliff.Braun · · Score: 1

      Mmmm. Adams.

  49. ahh, the register by cshor · · Score: 1

    Also at the Register this week.. "Is Microsoft preparing a flying car?

    1. Re:ahh, the register by Guy+Harris · · Score: 1

      I guess they didn't bother doing the obvious Google search that reveals (as the word "timetable" in the directions suggests) that there are, indeed, ferries between Haugesund and Newcastle-upon-Tyne.

      But I guess that'd mean the boys at The Reg couldn't write an article entitled "Is Microsoft preparing a flying car?".

  50. No sparky. No it wouldn't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "and clock-for-clock more powerful than a G5."

    No. The G4's limited FSB limits its power significantly.

    Why do you think the current PB's are so slow? They would raise the clock to 10mega-bejebers, and it wouldn't help the G4 significantly. The G4 Apple uses in the powerbooks is a very limited chip.

    [and to the idiots who say "I use one, and its fast enough for me, so therefore that's good enough for you", I said to swallow a steak knife and shut up]

  51. iMac G5 upgrade in the future by amichalo · · Score: 1

    [Let me first say I cannot believe this 1x1px Gif is getting the press it has all over the Internet]

    WIth talk of Mac mini's, iPod Shuffles, and G5 PowerBooks, I cannot get any pulse on Imac G5 upgrades.

    My laptop went out on me last week and I want to replace it with an iMac G5 (yeah, I know it isn't a laptop) but don't want to be one of those people who buys the computer and then two weeks later news of significant improvements emerge.

    Any buying advice on iMac G5 timing? While you're at it, thoughts on the $400 permium for the 20" over the 17"? (also doubles the HD to 160 GB I believe).

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    1. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by KoopaTroopa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Others have mentioned it before, and I'm inclined to agree with them. Since you're already paying money for the LCD component of the iMac, investing that much plus $400 more into a 20" LCD that you cannot keep and use with another computer (easily -- Mac surgeons need not jump in) may not be wise.

      Of course they are adorable, and I'd love to have one of either screen size.

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    2. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by amichalo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      [why] LCD that you cannot keep and use with another computer

      Excellent point!

      I am troubled with this too, but I also find myself askinging, if this iMac G5 will be relevant and useful 5, 6, 8 years from now, would I really be happy investing in a monitor that will last me that long, plus the life span of another computer? In other words, if conservatively, a Mac is relevant for five years, and I want to get two lifespans out of a monitor, I will be selecting a monitor for the next ten years. And in that ten year lifetime, will the monitor not get damaged (scratched), have a hardware failure, or become so outdated as to be irrelevant before the 10 years is up?

      Such a touch decision.

      I think of the iMac sort of like a Laptop - buy it the way you want it to be because you won't be able to upgrade latter. Laptops run their useful life and then nothing can be harvested but the data they held.

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    3. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever size you choose bear in mind that with a wide 16:9 display like the iMac has, every 6" of diagonal measurement provides the same *height* screen as 5" on a 4:3 ratio display. (ie: the 17" iMac has the same screen height as a 'normal' 15" display, and the 20" has the same screen height as a 'normal' 17" display.

    4. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by WMD_88 · · Score: 1

      I've seen the 20" iMac G5. The thing is so fucking huge that using it feels awkward. Just add that hard drive to the 17".

    5. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by splatterboy · · Score: 1

      If you have the $ to burn, by all means choose the 20". Personally, as a scale vs. size issue, I think the 17" is the more attractive.

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    6. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by KoopaTroopa · · Score: 1

      The comparison to a laptop is probably an apt one, especially due to the markets those machines address. Someone looking at buying an all-in-one iMac likely doesn't have the expectation of keeping the monitor anyway.

      So, I guess the original question was whether the 20" was worth it. I guess if you can afford it, go for it!

      Enjoy your iMac. I envy it!

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    7. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by Anarchitect_in_oz · · Score: 1

      If you have a Family and or Friends (i know this is /. so maybe not) and you find the iMac doesn't suit your needs in 3 years, then no doudt one of those family and friend type people will have use for it.

      A Happy exchange of love, money and other services may even be arranged.

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    8. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1

      I submit to you the mac buyers guide. Now I dont care for rumor sites but this is a excellent tool to keep track of dates and averages between product cycles. They rate the iMac as neutral and I'd agree. But I would hold out the week or so until the PM, PB etc get updated. Who knows a refresh even if it does not touch the iMac could lower prices or open up other options on the second hand market.

    9. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by amichalo · · Score: 1

      This looks like a decent resource but I find their "timing" gudelines somewhat misleading. For instance, the PowerBook line and the iMac line both had "upgrades" to them after just two months because they had different sizes introduced (12"/17" PB and 20" iMac). This shifts the whole "average" significantly because of the short cycle.

      But still, as a tool this is better than having nothing. So the question is, if the iMac G5 was announced 8/31/04 (but Apple stopped selling the G4 (7/1/04) then this G5 is currently 5 months old, or 150 days. The iMac G4 line saw it's last update (excluding the 20") 9/03 before the G5 was introduced 8/04.

      By this logic, we are smack dab in the middle of the iMac G5 life cycle. Even in a best case senario, we won't see a new iMac G5 for a couple months.

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    10. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by putaro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since you're already paying money for the LCD component of the iMac, investing that much plus $400 more into a 20" LCD that you cannot keep and use with another computer may not be wise.

      That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If you don't like the idea of not being able to reuse the monitor then you shouldn't buy an iMac. Once you're on the path of buying an iMac, you should get the monitor that will make you happy. Why save $400 and put up with a dinky monitor for several years?

    11. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by BBJM · · Score: 1

      If you are going to get an iMac, do the 20". My pop-in-law got the 20 and it's unreal. I set it up for him and they had to kick me out. Having said that, load up on memory. He got the standard 256 and it's not enough -- he is happy b/c he just surfs and emails, but anything else requires a bump in RAM. Also, he got it within a few weeks of introduction and has had zero problems. I'm glad too, b/c I'm the one that hounded him to switch from his crud infested wintel POS.

    12. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by KoopaTroopa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, I reason that way because IMHO the monitor difference is a luxury and not an essential component to at least my enjoyment of an iMac. A 17" screen is plenty big enough for me. Since it's certainly not "dinky" then I do not see how it is unreasonable not to regard a significant upgrade to it (both in size and price) as a luxury and thus something I might want to be able to keep, since it's not an integral part of the enjoyment I get from the base unit.

      I do see your general point, as the original poster pointed out to me himself, that the iMac market is very similar to the laptop market where one simply has no expectation of taking components with them after the lifetime of the base unit expires. So, perhaps this limitation is something everyone can just expect and live with. However, I disagree with your implication near the end of your post that the upgrade is almost necessary. Rest assured that many folks out there can have that "dinky" 17" monitor (_especially_ those in the iMac market) and be perfectly happy.

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    13. Re:iMac G5 upgrade in the future by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1

      Unless it's the hour and booze talking we both agree; the iMac G5 is mid cycle. Very true the averages are slightly misleading because of some random introductions. What I really like about the tool is a simple easy way to keep the introduction dates correct in my own memory.
      To compliment this use Apple History to see further back in history and see the actual specs of the machines in question.

  52. PPC 970FX by jtshaw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The PPC-970FX is a 46% power improvement on the original PPC-970 design and it still is a thermal nightmare for tight spaces. Not to mention still uses too much power for a laptop.

    When IBM delivers a new PPC 970 version I'd start getting excited about a PowerBook G5.

  53. Servers by bsd4me · · Score: 1

    Rack mounted equipment, such as servers and storage, can also be troublesome to keep within temperature spec.

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  54. Wow ...... just like Macslash ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    except for the constant deleting of anything anti-apple or amusing...

    Get 'em Cacaben!!!

    Macslash: home to the only reference to a dual processor mac as "bi"

    Teh Pr00f
    http://macslash.org/journal.pl?op=display&id=85&ui d=10111

  55. An open lettter to Apple zelots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously...what kind of hang up do you have when you sit around looking at the HTML code at Apple.com looking for clues at the release if a hardware update? GET A FRICKIN' LIFE...you make the First Post people look like swingers....

  56. G6 Powerbook! by chrome · · Score: 1

    Look! There is even an image of the NEXT powerbook, the G6!!

    WOW!

    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g6_powerbook

  57. Mod parent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Best retort to an Mac-head all week!

  58. No it wouldn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The G4 in the PB is a significantly limited chip because its FSB architecture is so archaic; it literally is a 5 year old design.

    The clock speed, as you apple guys should know, is irrelevant. But memory access speed is very significant, and the G4 used by the PB is very very slow.

    Lets face it; the PB hit the wall last year. It doesn't deserve the moniker "POWER" in Powerbook any more. Its about the slowest computer apple makes these days.

    1. Re:No it wouldn't by willy_me · · Score: 1

      The chip has an integrated memory controller so memory access speeds should be on par with the G5.

  59. When you called, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how are the Shenigans doing??

    I think I went to school with Arthur Shenigan.

    Didn't one of them become a famous rock bass player; Billy Shenigan.

    If you call them again, tell them Horhay said hi!

  60. In other news, GM coming out with 2006 models by Animats · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's also a rumor that General Motors will be coming out with new models later this year.

    1. Re:In other news, GM coming out with 2006 models by ip_vjl · · Score: 1

      Not only that, but apparently GM is way ahead of Apple regarding processors.

      Introducing the G6

      Wonder if they can fit that in a laptop.

  61. Re:Oh sweet jebus by argent · · Score: 1

    And more expensive. And would eat more precious space in the chassis.

    Are you sure we're both talking about the new dual-core G4 *chip* from Freescale? The MPC8641D is in the same package as the single-core MPC8641, and I doubt it's more expensive or larger than a G5 and the cooling system THAT bad boy would need to avoid melting the Powerbook's guts...

  62. I want a Powerbook shuffle!! by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    I can see it now, it would be the size of a pack of gum, but it would project it's screen into your retina and have visual sensors to provide a virtual keyboard. Also it would run 12 hours on a charge and cost under $200. Brilliant.

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    1. Re:I want a Powerbook shuffle!! by sulli · · Score: 1

      Of course, switching programs would require a bit of getting used to.

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  63. Mandatory by testednegative · · Score: 1
    Upon further research i found another hidden message in apples hotnews website (http://www.apple.com/hotnews/)... reading the second news i found a hidden url:

    When its Growing cOmputing And sTorage needs required the University of Pittsburgh's Department of Human Genetics to upgrade its Linux cluster, Assistant Professor Dr. MiChael Barmada set his sights on a 250-processor Xserve G5 cluster.


    (had to be done)
  64. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This image proves Apple's ultimate plans for Macintosh.

  65. They could just forget the main product names by sulli · · Score: 1

    and sell the Extreme Express mini photo shuffle Special Edition. What would that be, I wonder?

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    sulli
    RTFJ.
    1. Re:They could just forget the main product names by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't think it matters what it is, just so long as you have both a consumer and professional version-- the "iExtreme Express mini photo shuffle Special Edition" and the "PowerExtreme Express mini photo shuffle Special Edition".

    2. Re:They could just forget the main product names by the+original+m0nk · · Score: 1

      wait - when did george lucas start dictating re-releases of mac hardware?

    3. Re:They could just forget the main product names by nine-times · · Score: 1

      You mean the "special edition"? That just means that it's painted ugly colors and is backed by an over-the-hill pop band.

  66. Typo? by raider_red · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, the 4 is next to the 5 on the keyboard. Could that have anything to do with it?

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  67. here is the link to complete the circle by mbaudis · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.apple.com/itpro/resources.html

    1. Re:here is the link to complete the circle by goldspider · · Score: 1
      SUCCESS!!

      This is more profound than my Caine/Hackman Thesis!!

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  68. There will be a G5??? by Momoru · · Score: 1

    Whoa i never saw this coming, a g3, then a g4...i figured the next logical step would be Gtanium or geon. This is some top secret stuff you found.

  69. OMG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could this mean that Apple will make computers in the future? I think SO!!!

  70. I'm actually waiting for a G5 PB by melted · · Score: 1

    Remember when TiBooks came out they've made all other notebooks look old and tired? Well all the other notebooks still look old and tired compared to TiBook, but Apple will have to release something that's better by leaps and bounds. Something that blows TiBook G4 out of the water completely. I'm curious as to what it will be. :0)

    1. Re:I'm actually waiting for a G5 PB by goMac2500 · · Score: 1

      They did. It's called the Aluminum Powerbook G4. It came out two years ago.

  71. Maybe they were illustrating the chances... by tbase · · Score: 1

    ...of Apple releasing a G5 PowerBook...

    IMG HEIGHT="1" WIDTH="1" = Slim to None.

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  72. How'd you know?!?!? by brasten · · Score: 1

    You must be an Apple insider! http://switch.atdmt.com/action/Newton_OS_Mac_PDA_P hone_iPod_Airport_Express_Thingy

    Obviously anything after "/action/" is being redirected to the same image, with the last part of the URL probably being used as a dynamic key for tracking hits.

    1. Re:How'd you know?!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh. Whoever checks the report for that url will have a laugh.

  73. Apple Website Points to PowerBook by ganhawk · · Score: 0, Troll


    Was it just me or did anyone think "Geez ...they are running the website of a laptop and now its getting slashdotted !"

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    1. Re:Apple Website Points to PowerBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Mod,

      "Geez ...they are running the website off a laptop and now its getting slashdotted !"

      p? And it had to do something with the headline website POINTS to powerbook. Anyways whatever

  74. G5? Nope! G6! by Roguelazer · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Hmm. Okay. Opening the link... http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_powerbook. Okay. The link works. It must be true then. Wait... http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g6_powerbook works as well! That must mean that they're releasing the G6 at the same time as the G5! Yay! Let's go post an article on The Register about it!

    1. Re:G5? Nope! G6! by CdXiminez · · Score: 1

      ANY combination of letters between the underscores appears to take me to a 1x1 pixel gif picture.
      http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_sgj42fjs_powe rbook

  75. www.atdmt.com: Powerbook G5 picture by mbaudis · · Score: 1

    ... bad, that it is only 1x1 pixel and kind of transparent.

    1. Re:www.atdmt.com: Powerbook G5 picture by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      Yeah but checkout the duke nukem forever picture...

    2. Re:www.atdmt.com: Powerbook G5 picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit, that site is awesome. It has every porno pic that's ever been on the internet. Check this out:

      hot_wet_naked_teen_pussy.gif

      FUCK YEAH!!

  76. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Adserver will accept any string to that servlet so the only typo was on Apple's side.

  77. Very soon or should have been here already? by divisionbyzero · · Score: 1

    I would guess the PowerBook G% should have shown up at MacWorld and the site was prepper for it, but they just couldn't get it done. We'll be lucky to see a PowerBook G5 in 2H of 2005.

    1. Re:Very soon or should have been here already? by divisionbyzero · · Score: 1

      Preview button is my friend, I know. Should be PowerBook "G5", not "G%", and "prepper" should be "prepared".

    2. Re:Very soon or should have been here already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, not in the least. You demonstrated quite skillfully how that link made it on the apple page to begin with.

  78. Re:Hidden clues to G666... in backwards audio trac by mdarksbane · · Score: 1

    I already have one of those.

    Round down makes the G4 666.66666 tibook sound sooooooo much cooler.

  79. Definitely on its way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rumour has it that when it arrives next quarter, it'll be pre-bundled with Duke Nukem Forever.

  80. Mini's vs. minis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please, people. How dumb are you? How many times does this have to be pointed out?

    Apostrophes are used for contractions and to denote ownership; they are NOT used to pluralize nouns.

    Example:
    The new Mac Mini's RAM could use a boost. (RAM belongs to the Mac Mini.)
    The new Mac Mini's pretty cool. (The words "Mini is" can be contracted to "Mini's".)
    The new Mac Minis are going to sell well. (More than one Mini implies the term Minis, and not, for the love of god, Mini's.)

    Thank you.

    1. Re:Mini's vs. minis by amichalo · · Score: 1

      Please, people. How dumb are you? How many times does this have to be pointed out?

      Whoa, get over yourself!

      This is a geek website for people who think k00! is a word. It isn't a submission for a writing exam.

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  81. How much power is this going to buy? by ducomputergeek · · Score: 2, Insightful
    We are in the video production business. We sent crews out with 1.0 Ghz G4 PB's with 2GB of ram we purchase about 2 years ago and they seem to handle the job still quite well. Oftentimes on smaller jobs, the project is almost completed by the time they are back in the office from flying.

    Once back in the office we have several dual 1.25 Ghz G4 towers and a couple dual 2Ghz powermac g5's for final rendering. These machines were each between 6k and 12k.

    One the road, battery life means more than horsepower and the powerbook strikes a reasonable balance over the G3 iBooks that were available when we purchased the PB's. From what I've read, the G5 chip (unless apple will pull the classic: different chip, same name game) sucks down juice like mad.

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    1. Re:How much power is this going to buy? by burns210 · · Score: 1

      The biggest advantage, in my opinion, for a "g5" laptop is FSB. The Frontside Bus on G4's is around 133MHz, while a G5's FSB is 1/2 the processor's clock-speed. Yes, a G5 will lead to high GHz ratings, and it will be a heat problem, etc, but the Bus speed increasing 5x or more is going to be a killer feature.

      PS: 64-bit, blah, blah. Larger RAM ceiling, blah, blah. G5's use low power(but high heat, if memory serves, correct me if I am wrong) blah, blah.

    2. Re:How much power is this going to buy? by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 1

      Once back in the office we have several dual 1.25 Ghz G4 towers and a couple dual 2Ghz powermac g5's for final rendering. These machines were each between 6k and 12k.

      Between "6k and 12k" what? I doubt you're talking about US dollars, because those sound like $3,000 - $6,000 machines when bought new.

    3. Re:How much power is this going to buy? by glam0006 · · Score: 0
      We are in the video production business. We sent crews out with 1.0 Ghz G4 PB's with 2GB of ram ...

      Are you, by any chance, in the porn business perhaps? Who else would need to render so much video on laptops?

    4. Re:How much power is this going to buy? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      It might be between 6k and 12k US$ with all the trimmings. High end pro video can get quite expensive to mere mortals. On the other hand, $12k for a video production company working on the high end is peanuts.

      You probably already know what I'm talking about, Leo, but for the edification of others, take a look at this video capture card for only $2499!

      It's quite possible that his company also purchased through a VAR, which can substantially increase the price up front, but can have many advantages down the line. The VAR might be bundling software, so the cost of the software might be reflected in the price range he gave. Have a look at this VAR turnkey system. I'm using Pro Max as an example, because I've been a customer in the past, and I think they're one of the better, if not the best, of the VARs in the pro video market and they've been doing it for a long time.

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    5. Re:How much power is this going to buy? by ducomputergeek · · Score: 1

      Try pricing systems with 4 or 8 GB of ram and best video card at the time, 4x160GB hardrives or 2x250GB hardrives, Fibercards, and see what the price is. Some of the $12k machines may have included the 23"HD flatpanel and 17". I don't remember the exact details. But for the base Machine without monitors, I know we paid an average of about $7,000 a pop.

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  82. Forgive my ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but was there ever a G1 or a G2? Why the letter G? Will apple go on to some other letter later on?

    1. Re:Forgive my ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      G1 = PowerPC 601
      G2 = PowerPC 603/604
      G3 = PowerPC 750
      G4 = PowerPC 74/75xx
      G5 = PowerPC 970

  83. quick lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "no more than FUD" != "is FUD"

    1. Re:quick lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the context it was used, that's exactly what it means. If you're going to use English, you need to understand what various phrases actually mean to readers.

  84. Re:Hidden clues to G666... in backwards audio trac by mdarksbane · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I've been using one of those for a while.

    Rounding down makes the G4 tibook 666.6666 sound SO much cooler.

  85. giddy! by blew_fantom · · Score: 1

    i'm getting all giddy like a virgin geek about to be deflowered by jenna jameson. w00t!

    seriously, a G5 powerbook is inevitable. it'll be interesting to see how apple's marketing department spins it when it debuts.

    1. Re:giddy! by DaveCBio · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So, you're excited about being deflowered by a woman that is partly artificial, has ugly stretch marks from over-sized fake boobs, appears better looking in marketing campaigns that she actually does in real life and has a perfunctory view of sex? Yeah, that sounds about right.

    2. Re:giddy! by argent · · Score: 1

      a G5 powerbook is inevitable

      Along with a backpack to carry the battery in?

    3. Re:giddy! by DaveCBio · · Score: 1

      Off-topic? I was drawing a parallel between the reality of pron and the reality of hype marketing.

  86. Hot baby HOT!!! by jeff.m.hopkins · · Score: 1

    I'm sitting here typing on my Powerbook G$, oopps G4... and I have to say that my genital region is quite hot as of right now. If there flopping a G5 in there, it WILL be catching fire without some new sort of cooling method. Maybe they would go the route of the huge PCs: Huge Noisy Fans?

  87. Talk to the photographers and models.... by wandazulu · · Score: 1

    Think about when the iPod Shuffle was announced...Apple had their website ready to go with quicktime vr movies, product shots, as well as "action" shots of real people with the device. Clearly, a *lot* of people knew about it by that time because it was a. already built so that b. it could be photographed (even if it were a non-working unit, they wouldn't take pictures of something that would change drastically before launch).

    So if they're really cranking out the G5 PBs now, then there's gotta be a bunch of photographers and models running around offices and parks, probably in California, posing for those action shots.

    Now the trick is to find them. I wonder when they're getting the people to pose, if they ask them if they're Mac users/fanatics, so that they don't get someone who, 5 seconds after wrapping up the shoot, goes online and says "OMG! You will *NOT* believe what I was just using an hour ago!!!!!!!"

    1. Re:Talk to the photographers and models.... by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 2, Funny

      So if they're really cranking out the G5 PBs now, then there's gotta be a bunch of photographers and models running around offices and parks, probably in California, posing for those action shots.

      In California kids learn how to say "NDA" before they learn how to say "momma". Seriously, when powerbook 12" and 17" were shown for the first time, Apple already has had prepared a TV ad starring two celebrities - Yao Ming of NBA fame and Verne Troyer, "Mini Me" from the Austin Powers series (that's how 12" got its nickname). Yet these powerbooks took everyone by surprise. Apple could right now be developing iBeam, portable teleportation device, with Paris Hilton starring in commercials being shot right now on Rodeo Drive, and everyone would keep mum, because their Non Disclosure Agreements would basically say that their balls will be teleported if a word comes out about it.

  88. Much like links in Spam by SpinJaunt · · Score: 1
    Well, I am not sure if it just me but erm, dosen't the whole thing seem not much different following links in those stupid spam emails
    Click here.. amazing deals, penis enlargement, cheap viagra
    etc, etc.
    For those who were apparently "paranoid" and followed those atdmt.com's links -- woopsie; because you should of known better :o)
    To combat this, Firefox has a handy setting under Web Features - [X] Load Images - [X] for the originating web site only -- otherwise use Lynx/Links.
    </FlameOff>
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  89. It's usually just employees. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  90. I saw the words "G5 Powerbook" by duffbeer703 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Written in mold on the inside of an english muffin.

    Surely this is a sign.

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  91. Re:Parent post is more pertinant response in threa by crono_deus · · Score: 1

    Oh my God! Apple makes a cheesegrater now? When is it coming out? For the love of God, man, don't leave me hanging like this!

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  92. I smell a lawsuit. by FrankieBoy · · Score: 1

    Better be careful or Microsofts attorneys will come looking for you for spoiling the surprise. Did I say Microsoft? I meant Apple. Well they're interchangeable at this point, at least when it comes to the way they deal with their customers.

  93. Some information links by willy_me · · Score: 1
    Figured I should include a couple of links:

    The Register
    Freescale marketing doc
    Freescale PDF - more technical

  94. Re:Parent post is more pertinant response in threa by Vacindak · · Score: 1

    You know, their tracking system is probably now very, very confused with all these Slashdotters spamming it with random keywords. "Why are we getting all this traffic on our site for our cheese grater product? Since when does Microsoft sell Windows for Macintosh, and why would we advertise it on our site if they did?"

  95. What is of interest by Infonaut · · Score: 4, Insightful
    t obviously, this article was of interest to you

    Actually I was curious about what reader reactions would be. I sometimes read stories in Slashdot primarily to read other people's opinions, rather than to absorb the information from the quoted story.

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    1. Re:What is of interest by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      It is pretty fascinating how much heat a rumor like this generates, not just on slashdot, but across the web in general. And I don't think it can be completely ascribed to to fanatics (of which I am one). In general, I think people are more curious about what Apple will do next, though not necessarily specifically interested in when a G5 PB might be released. If this wasn't the case, then stories like these wouldn't have such legs, and major news outlets wouldn't be taking their cues from sites like Think Secret (in the case of the Mac Mini rumor).

      Whatever else you might say about Apple, you must admit that their products and their brand have captured the public's imagination. They might have a small marketshare (however you want to define that) but they have a disproportionately huge mindshare.

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  96. Crappy news day? by Damek · · Score: 1, Troll

    This definitely doesn't belong on Slashdot's front page. It barely belongs on Mac Rumors sites. Heck, this sort of typo doesn't even belong on low-level personal blogs like mine: Adam Piontek

  97. well this reminds me of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when the g5's were just about to come out and someone on there site posted the specs for it. Steve Jobs called Prementive marketing ...I think

  98. Presenting... The 2006 Chrysler Longhorn!! by ianscot · · Score: 1

    Yeah, and we'll only get excited about the new models when the one we've got actually dies or when someone comes out with something as fundamentally pleasing and necessary as intermittent wipers or antilock brakes. Until then, I like what I'm driving.

    Looks like the "commodity" thing is really coming true.

    (Actually I would get excited about GM's 'skateboard' concept cars with the electronic controls. About as likely to erally come out in 2006 as the aforementioned Longhorn, though. And a new Msoft OS? Shrug...)

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  99. None of this matters anyways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because of all of the annoying blinking, moving, flashing, strobing adds from them, I have atdmt.com black-holed in my hosts file. Even when (if?) it does become a real ad, I'm not going to see it.

  100. Perverse Logic in the UK by danieleran · · Score: 1

    So the gif got named "apple_g5_powerbook," despite the fact that the filename doesn't matter (as already pointed out ad naseum).

    The fact that the other product pages use "apple_g5_powermac" and "apple_g5_xserve" don't reinforce the idea these are "real products," they make it more obvious that the powerbook was a typo. And this isn't even Apple's work, but a outside design company.

    Even more puzzling is the logical leap The Register takes to suggest that this is some kind of before and after study. WTF? IT'S BEFORE RIGHT NOW! So they are measuring interest in a G5 Powerbook, pre announcement, by placing it invisibly in a page pertaining to currently available non-G5 Powerbooks, and measuring interest? In G4s or G5s? Please enlighten!

    Or is it they are simply counting clicks before and after the product is announced, but it is somehow important that the link refer to the processor installed in the next product to non-differentiate the before and after clicks?

    I used to like reading theReg a lot, but I've lost a tremendous amount of respect for The Register lately. Between this and the iTunes DRM pipe rattling and the boo-hoo-hooing over some Harvard kid getting sued for soliciting trade secrets to display next to his ads, those brits over there are becoming just another "sensationalist crap with ads" site.

  101. Apple is a ARG by soulhuntre · · Score: 1

    Otherwise knows as "Interactive Fiction".

    Cause when you hunt through a website hoping to find a clue to the hidden agenda in an ALT tag, thats what you have.

    http://www.argn.com/

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  102. only interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you have disengaged brain and failed to realize that it will serve up that image no matter what string you feed it.

  103. A more accurate way to predict G5 laptop arrivals. by bobdotorg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm teaching probability this quarter, and am also in the market for a new PowerBook (my Wallstreet sucks at OSX, and I can no longer check my email with Eudora for OS9 - SSL in 6.1 not compatible with NWU's email server).

    Please indulge me in my pompous professerism for a moment:

    Conditional probability of two events is written as P(A|B).
    This is spoke as "The probability of A given B." B is what you know, A is something you're interested in.

    So define A as "a new powerbook introduced in the next 30 days".

    In this case, B is what we know - if we define B as this web-bug gif, well, that that doesn't tell us much about P(A), though it might allow you to update your beliefs about the quality of journalism at the Register.

    So what sort of B would tell us something about P(A)?

    Look to past events that occured before previous Apple product introductions:
    - scant supply of current models in the supply chain
    - 'end of life' designation in retailers' stocking computers
    - ThinkSecret or other site posting pics, or 'reliable' rumors
    - Press conference scheduled
    - I'm sure that there are many other pieces of relevant info, a web-bug not being very high on the ranking list.

    So here I am - waiting for a dual core G4 PB. I will not buy one of the current models, as they are somewhat long in the tooth, getting only speed bumps for over a year.

    I see no indication of scant supply.
    I see no indication that current models are EOL'd on retailers' stocking systems.
    I see no 'reliable' rumors, and I would expect some if there was a plant in Asia making new PB's to build up inventory before introduction.

    Given the above evidence, I conclude that it is highly unlikely that a PB will be introduced during the next 30 days.

    Dammit. I do hope my conclusion is wrong.

    And I fear that P(A|B) = 1 if we define the event B: "I buy a current PowerBook".

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  104. Now by paranode · · Score: 1

    Sell it on eBay and your journey will be complete.

  105. Pod Marent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    freakin' LOAL dudes!

    HA!

  106. Smart PR Strategy by Billby · · Score: 1

    After all the fuss over ThinkSecret it might be a smart strategy for Apple to deliberately seed untrue yet alluring readers to distract journalists and others.

    Mind you hiding product names in HTML this was is more like something from The DaVinci Code that the Regis McKenna Playbook.

  107. Source Code makes Awesome Literature by tyman · · Score: 1

    Who has the time to just go around browsing the apple site's HTML Code? Like, c'mon read a damn book.

  108. This is a stretch by doublem · · Score: 1

    That's it. I'm done with The Register.

    They can't tell a typo from an actual story.

    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/anti_gravity_fusion

    Look! Apple is going to come out with an Anti-Gravity Fusion device!

    The URL doesn't give a 404, so it MUST be true!

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  109. Even Better, on the APPLE site! by doublem · · Score: 1

    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/anti_gravity_fusion

    Not only is it real, but Apple must be getting ready to market it.

    They have a place holder graphic up now, so they must be getting ready to release it REAL SOON!

    Sure the graphic is only a 1x1 pixel, but it's there!!!!

    Wahoo!!!

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  110. Talk about desperate by tyrione · · Score: 1

    Are these journalists so desperate and bored they dig through source code in hopes of one day stating the inevitable?

    Who gives a rats ass about such right now. Whatever gets released as a major change for the Powerbook will always be chastised as not enough.

    Hell find something else to shoot your wad about already.

  111. Screw G6, they've got a G6 on the way! by doublem · · Score: 0, Redundant

    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_powerbook

    As we've all known, a 1x1 pixel graphic is proof of a product!

    And it gets better!

    http://switch.atdmt.com/action/apple_g5_newton

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  112. Re:No sparky. No it wouldn't. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

    All things being equal, I agree.

    However, in the land of FreeScale, all things are not equal.

    You see, in the PowerPC 7455, they moved the memory controller on-die, and finally did away with the aged MaxBus controller that has kept the G4 strapped to a 167Mhz FSB.

    That's right, champ; the G4 will actually scale as originally promised! You can thank AMD for that trick.

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  113. Possible innocent mistake. by CottonEyedJoe · · Score: 1

    What if the guy adding that little bit of HTML to make the counters on each page work (presumably from the marketing company) dosent know squat about apple computers and simply put "_G5_ " on ALL the pages, not realizing (or caring) that the powerbook was a G4 and not a G5. Seems more likley than Apple playing spooky head games with people desperate enough to dig through the HTML for leads.

  114. And GMs average mpg will exceed a 1907 Ford's! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And maybe even Ford will produce a car that gets better gas mileage than it's original 1907 Model T (which was 37 mpg, btw). Woo-hoo! 100 years of innovations in cars and not 1 mpg better! Hurray!

  115. The New Trend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't the internet come up with some better rumors than this? Apple is going to be making some bold moves this year into the living room, and they've already laid the foundation with bigger screens, the airport express base station, the Mac Mini, and there was also the whole "Year of HD" thing at Macworld. Let's start looking for hints of the new Apple iMovie Store, or the Apple iProjector. They pretty have the tiny-coffeehouse-table space in firm grasp.

  116. Apple G6 has been released by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  117. It's a typo by pressman · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have a friend who works for Avenue A and he informed me that it is simply a typo.

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  118. Re:A more accurate way to predict G5 laptop arriva by gimpboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I see no indication of scant supply.
    I see no indication that current models are EOL'd on retailers' stocking systems.


    Like this from mac rumors

    PowerBook shortages are being reported by resellers worldwide, with Apple's own online store putting shipping dates now at 7 - 10 days out. Delays like these usually signify a product change is about to occur, and the G4 PowerBook is expected to have a minor speed bump revision according to Think Secret. G5 PowerBooks have been in the rumor news recently, but aren't expected to show for some time to come.

    Or perhaps this

    Macbidouille posts that FNAC (largest multimedia shop in France) has declared the Powerbooks "End of Life". FNAC is also present in other European countries such as Spain.
    There will be no new shipments of the old revisions once the stock is sold.


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  119. Re:No sparky. No it wouldn't. by dadragon · · Score: 1

    No. The G4's limited FSB limits its power significantly.

    Old news. According to this, the dual-core processors have moved the memory controller to the CPU, so there is no longer artificial restrictions on FSB speed. These things have a FSB speed of 667mhz.

    They also use 15W of power, and have a clock speed of 1.5ghz. Not too shabby, no?

    The old ones that are used, have a 200mhz memory bus, but both the new single-core and dual-core support 667mhz buses.

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  120. Not only that! by strabo · · Score: 1, Funny

    Eeeeevil....

    Introducing the new apple_g666_powerbook!

    Buy it now, before time runs out... The end of the world is nigh!

    1. Re:Not only that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
  121. G5 Powerbooks on Tuesday by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    Every time they resurrect that infamous "G5 PowerBooks next Tuesday" rumor hundreds of geeks start having wet dreams, just to get their hopes dashed when it never comes true.

    The way I heard the rumor was "G5 PowerBooks on Tuesday", and when Tuesday came and went, my source of the rumor said, "I didn't say which Tuesday."

    So, I'm convinced he's right.

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  122. Other powerbook G5 typos from apple by SPF22 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Search google using ---> site:www.apple.com "powerbook g5" --. You can see that there have been other powerbook G5 typos on their sites. Make sure you translate the pages. But either way, they are old pages and clearly someone accidently typed 5 instead of 4. Where were you on that one Register?

  123. Your Brand New Asus G5 by delire · · Score: 1

    i wonder if you can get these iBook G5's unbadged.

    or the Quanta Powerbook G5... hmm, apples or oranges.

  124. New references found! by noidentity · · Score: 1

    Apple still hasn't removed the fifteen (!) references to G5 in the page. If you use the "binhex" decryption program on the HTML code, you will find many references to G5. Here are the most tantalizing ones:

    Line 124:
    +BACK8f0bDA"d)L"dHA"P25*dCAKd,fTKGQ&cBh*TF(3 L2M`K, 5d0$5mU)&P[G5"

    Note the word "back" near the beginning.

    Line 287:
    b)(P[GA)JEQpdC@*[EfXJEQ9PC(-JEh)JC'9cDA*PFb" KFQ8X) (P[G5"MB@iJBQ8

    See how the same string 'P[G5"' occurs. Clearly an intentional consistency. There are over ten occurrences of this.

    Line 400:
    `CA*NFQPfC5jSG'eX)Mj6GA"PFN4bDACP2#pK2L`JB@j N)(P[G 5"SBACP)'&Z)'9

    Could the "SBACP" be part of the model number???

    I haven't yet found what the decryption protocol "base64" reveals when run on the HTML. I'll let someone else be the first to reveal what that finds.

  125. Not really. by Fwongo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As _xeno_ and others have said, the Avenue A site will take any query for the file name ("apple_g4_powerbook," "apple_g5_powerbook," "mango_juice" etc.) and dump a transparent GIF. So it's impossible to tell whether Avenue A had it configured specially for the apple_g5_powerbook keyword, or the other one, or it's just set up to track all queries it's asked for. According to ThinkSecret Apple is soon upgrading its Pbook G4 model, which would explain why they're adding stuff about it. Probably the Apple employee who added that code was lusting after the G5 and couldn't control his fingertips ;)

  126. 1x1 Slashdotting by LordHatrus · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many slashdot users it takes to take down a site by only download 1x1 blank space images... Nah, we can do it!

  127. Re:Parent post is more pertinant response in threa by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

    The Jonathon Ives designed liquid cooled iCheesgrater has been part of the Apple line up for quite some time now. It can even play MP3s.

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  128. No we won't by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    We can just count the number of posts to Usenet mentioning Steve Jobs.

  129. imac g5 by prockcore · · Score: 1

    If the powerbook g5 was just around the corner, the imac g5 would've been a *lot* thinner.

    Unless, of course, it's going to be called the "PowerTome G5"

  130. It will serve many functions: by Upaut · · Score: 1

    A G5 laptop will:
    *Bake a mans little soldiers to the point that a male birth-control pill is no longer needed...
    * Be able to increase a nerds Charisma by +20
    * Act as a hot plate for food or drink
    * And so much more...
    ... And I am still going to buy one the day it is released...

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    3 degrees of separation from Vladimir Putin
  131. G5 Powerbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to be announced during the Superbowl? Duh..

  132. Indications at Stanford by jstockdale · · Score: 1

    Well if it's anything to go by, the Stanford Bookstore cut the pricing on the full Apple laptop range rediculously (we're talking $100+ under standard _Academic_ pricing). The sale's valid "until Apple updates their product range."

    So I'd say that we're seeing the start of the EOL cycle for the current lineup, which bodes well for a new release.

    That said, I don't think we're going to see a G5 right away.

    Read that as you want. One more speed bump perhaps before they EOL the Al-book design? Maybe the G5s are just ahead of most predictions ...

    My guess: Look for a final revision of the G4 based AlBooks in early Feb. G5 released with Tiger later this year.

    Just my $.02

    -S ...

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    **AA: a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes
  133. Re:Oh sweet jebus by ArbitraryConstant · · Score: 1

    The dual-core MPC8641D will apparently use 15 watts (probably for the slowest one). Assuming that number is running flat out (the information site is for the embedded version so I assume it is flat out), it's about as much fully loaded as the slowest G5 uses idle. More suitable for a laptop.

    Even the single core one would be better, as the bus speed isn't quite so hilarious.

    Also, I think the G5s are already cheaper for Apple to buy...

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    I rarely criticize things I don't care about.
  134. Wow, my first troll rating! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Feckin' awesome!