you missed the well documented requirement. try doing anything with Zope that doesn't only use the prebuilt components, and the magic zope genie just evaporated and went back into his bottle. when zope comes out with some actual explanations and documentation of how to do anything actually important with it, I'll consider it again, until then I might as well just DIY with mod_python and some template like psp, cheetah or otherwise.
oh my god thank you. thank you. the app still takes too long and in my opinion no PDF document wouldn't be better served as html, but now at least i can somewhat stand to look at PDFs when i absolutely have to.
The idiot slowing down one lane of a 4 lane freeway by doing 5 miles under the speed limit
As long as he isn't in a passing lane, it is his right to go whatever speed he wants, as long as there is no minumum speed limit posted at which time he must at least go that fast (usually 45 or so), and its your job to deal with it, and deal with in a safe and, hopefully, courteous manner.
Driving slower than most people is a practice I engage in regularly. Slower is just plain safer and I can maintain an appropriate distance to the vehicle in front of me, which 99.99% of drivers almost never do.
The real idiots are the ones who race up behind the 55/60mph guy (me), tailgate him for a while, then whip out around and pass like a dumb jerk, when they should have just changed lanes as soon as they saw they were approaching a slower vehicle.
there is a very clear and very real genetic predisposition for some people to be alcoholics
If you miss a class in college and say "my car broke down," or "the power went out and my alarm didn't go off," or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that you have to make up the work you missed.
Having a medical explanation for alcholism doesn't give an alcoholic the right not to own up to his/her actions, and I beleive the original point of this thread was that people are shirking responsibility. You can't point to a scientific study to remove your accountibility for drunk driving, or emotional abuse of your children.
I don't think you were claiming that, but I just want to make clear the difference I see between explanations (genetic predisposition etc.) and the bottom line - responsibility. They don't really affect each other, and dwelling on the former doesn't get you anywhere.
Yes, and please, whomever does find the patent(s) in question, please also link to your source of the information, or at least state it, for us folks who don't trust every random piece of information on the internet.
(Someone posted a list of three patents as a comment on the groklaw article, and I would repost them here, but how do we know the info is correct? Where did s/he get that info?)
because maybe somewhere somplace out there there is probably something which is impossible to do in pure CSS
how about aligning the tops and bottoms of css columns (read: floats) without explicitly specifying their height (having height based on content)? the only solutions are restrictive hacks that do not actually make the heights match, they make them visually appear to match using backgrounds, other divs, etc. you couldn't, for example, but a border on each div because their bottom edges would not line up.
this is easily acheived using table layouts - just put each column in a cell and by definition of the table layout, your tops and bottoms line right up. then you can put more cells underneath, rowspan and colspan to your heart's content, use borders, and still maintain a perfectly aligned format that won't die a horrible death if the content violates the precarious widths, heights, and margins requiring for complex css float layouts.
don't get me wrong, i mostly love CSS, but there are things that tables can do that CSS doesn't, and with much less headache, and I don't see any good reason not to use a table in those cases, other than patting yourself on the back for having an evangelically correct "pure" CSS page (which of course feels good in that geeky way, but as the grandparent said, really only works for a certain kind of page.)
i can think of two reasons: one is not paying taxes on the goods, the other is the relationship building aspect of a barter, where you and the other party can reach beyond the wall of money and deal with eachother more intimately. when you buy something, you are virtually eclipsed by the transaction; it becomes the focal point. in a barter, the focal points (note: plural) are each other and the mutual meeting of interests.
what kind of legal rights come into play here? seems to me that this kind of thing should have to be stated on a company-wide policy document which has to be signed by each employee as a condition of being hired... something like 'xyz corp maintains the right to monitor and record all electronic communications originiating from and coming in to said company's network... bla bla... sign here or you're fired'
i've done contracts for agencies who had this kind of document, but i wonder if it is legally required or just an optional measure the company takes to reduce liability?
either way, is there any precedent here for a suit? if my CC was stolen in this manner, i would at least consult a lawyer and find out.
as far as i can envision given my knowldedge of acoustics and human spatial auditory perception, there wouldn't be an accurate way to render sounds emanating from sources deep inside the speaker array. did you notice how the nice flash animation on the iozono website shows a sound source from beyond the speaker array?
let me add another layer of difficulty to the issue:
the human head is pretty wide if your talking about sound waves. sounds coming from the left of the head reach the left ear first, then wrap around the head (losing some frequencies), and enter the right ear later. it is well proven than humans can use this "interaural time delay" to infer the position of the source, and can even detect phase delays for low frequency signals!
so, taking the example of a sound in the center aisle: to be accurate, the sound would have to reach the left ears of the right-side audience members before their right ears, while also reaching right ears of the left-side audience members before their left ears. How can that be acheived using a speaker array on the far left and far right walls of the theatre?
I don't care what browser anyone uses to look at my web pages. My code adheres to published standards, and it is not my problem if a web browser is out of date, or non-compliant.
have you told your clients that this is your position? or maybe you don't have clients and aren't in any way responsible or accountable for the design work you do? i wouldn'hire a web designer who thinks that way.
if some people can't see the site or are seeing it render improperly, then not only has valuable interest in the site been wasted, but those people will then carry negative impressions which will, by word of mouth etc, spread.
if you aren't worried about a rotting userbase, then you can think that way, but most people care if someone wants to see their site but can't. making a site that everyone can see and use properly is overkill, but if you're not even catering to IE6 then either you are trying to target a niche market (okay), or you just don't have your priorities straight, or you just don't have any responsibilities at all.
zend is offering a package that includes the zend accelerator, studio, & encoder for $295 or $450 with upgrades/bells/whistles per year, as long as your company is pulling in less than 100k per year.
i dont work for zend; i bought the package (think its a good deal).
if you insist on free software, there are a number of free php code caching apps as well as development ides available...
now just connect the dots and see how this could result in the differences "proven" on the Disney Channel show. i'm not saying they aren't there, i'm just questioning their origins.
Yes, and i would agree with you, and I should have preemtively responded to your (not unreasonable) counter point.
I think it was clear that i'm talking about the status quo. Many men find highly intelligent women attractive. However unfortunate, this is NOT one of the dominant features of steretypically attractive woman. Looking at popular media, intelligent women CAN be potrayed to be attractive/sexy/etc, but this is a more recent trend and it can often come along with some other gotchas, such as a simultaneous hardening of the pesonality, loss of empathy, compassion, free spiritedness, and other traits which are attributed to other (more popular) stereotypes of attractive women.
Consider the differences in our cultural response to male engineers and female engineers, male auto mechanics and female auto mechanics, male cops and female cops, etc. Take any profession that is typically male dominated and put a woman in that place, and look at the backlash. Now look at professions like secretaries, seamtresses, house maids, and so on, and put men in those positions, and look at the result (men in feminized roles = humiliation).
Don't get me wrong. One of my best male friends in the world is an ace on the sewing machine. But, this kind of social pressure is one reason (among many) why we (men & women) really do end up with different skill sets, which then become so-called "proven differences" when you do tests like on that Disney channel show.
The real problem is not the tests but the assumptions latent in the conclustions drawn from it.
So, one last thing - the original topic here was that women may end up needing a automatic parking feature in their car more than men would. This may or may not be true, but it's not because women are inherently bad at parking. It's that we live in a complex society with lots of overlapping pressures, which may, for exmaple, have the consequence of discouraging women from asserting precise control over a motor vehicle...
There are exhibitable differences in how men and women think and behave, no doubt, but who can show that these differences are not the result of a lifetime of training in a complex social environment under intense pressures?
Maybe you could do an experiment to show that men "have a higher capacity for algebra", or "have a higher capacity for mechanical engineering," by doing some basic tests. However, in our society, women are encouraged NOT to understand algebra and engineering. Why? Because a woman who does is unattractive!! Think about the stereotypes and the status quo here - imagine what the general student opinion would be of a girl in high school who took and aced advanced calculus? Do you think the guys would be "all over her"? What would her friends think? In the greater scheme of the social environment, we enforce gender difference in a very complex interlocking web of pressures.
I just hope nobody takes this anecdotal evidence and makes the wrong conclusion - that men and women have inherent, instrinctive, or otherwise natural propensities for either driving cars or making grocery lists.
Simply put, we get good at what we do, and we "do" gender differences all the time, therefore we get good at them:)
It sounds no more synthetic than punchcards used by old pianos in westerns.
There is not really any boundary either way on MIDI in terms of "sounding synthetic" or otherwise. Why? Because MIDI isn't sound... it doesn't sound like anything. You could use MIDI to trigger a sampler that plays back a Coltrain solo, which would sound exactly like a Coltrain solo. MIDI is an abstract protocol for controlling machines that has nothing do with sound until you've actually hooked it up to some kind of sound producing device that responds to it, of which there are countless numbers that do all manners of conceivable digital audio playback, synthesis, and effects...
As for midi, try being moved by a synthisized speech of any good written work
This implies a conflation of MIDI itself and poor use of it with shoddy equipment, eg in the stereotypical "midi songs" you'll hear on your soundblaster when you load some obnoxious web page.
MIDI is a protocol for sending electronic musical instruments control messages. It actually contains a lot more capacity for musical description than standard sheet music. It not only conveys precise notation of pitches, durations, note velocities, etc, but also can carry up to 127 simultanous streams of "continuous controller" data, which can be used to modulate any conceivable paramter of a synthesizer generating or effecting electronic sound.
"MIDI music" doesn't exist: the music can only exist when MIDI is sent to a synth, and much of the art of electronic music is in the synths, not the MIDI.
This brings me to my final point (actually about the article), which is that the author's type of musical analysis would be mostly pointless to apply to many forms of modern electronic music, because most of the musical content is in the variations of synthetic manipulation of sound, things that cannot be "notated" and definately defy a statistical analysis of pitch and rhythm. For example, it would be common in electronic music to have a single note that lasts many measures, but moves through a breathtaking sweep of tonal development. Theres a lot more going on there than "start note, wait, stop note," (and the MIDI data that created it would be virtually useless if applied to a different synthesizer)
Or at least while your searching for a job, keep an open mind and be sniffing the air for entrepreneurial opportunities. Find a need with a market and fill it. It doesn't have to be big or original. Things are changing all the time, and like waterfalls, these changes are energy sources you can tap into and make money. Why work for someone else? Why compete for the scraps from some other entrepreneur's table? Entrepreneurship isn't for everyone, but I don't think enough people really consider it as an option for themselves.
what you describe as boring, i describe as negative space surrounding the core plot, characters, and metaphysics of the movie. GitS is so good in my opinion is because it is reflective - it leaves room for the contemplation of the experiences and meanings that are woven through it. As a simple example, there are frequently pauses in the dialogue or action where nobody is speaking or really doing anything, but time is passing, rain is falling, the characters are watching their surroundings, and what have you, and in that space, there are forces at work that weave a thing that is beautiful, horrific, bizarre, and definately spiritual...
it (or something similar) will be the standard in advertising websites similar to PDFs and documents
is that supposed to be good? anytime a document i need is only available in PDF, theres a little voice screaming inside my head: now i get to wait for 90 seconds while my pc is cold, hard, locked down as adobe acrobat's massive, bloated codebase climbs into my ram...
the massive computing/graphics power we have today has taken away all the fun
yes and it's taken away the high frame rate too and a lot of the artfulness. lots of new demos that i've watched today run at a disgustingly slow frame rate on my p4 2.8ghz w/ nvidia geForce2. come on, really now. the old demo scene is turning in its grave...
if folks would just focus on artfulness, composition, and emotive impact instead of how many triangles are being rendered...
well, why don't you take a look at what the site offers... theres a lot more than HTML tutorials on there. notice the categories "programming" and "backend"? "multimedia"? if it was only html, it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is. its a really great resource that is extremely helpful to beginners in lots of different domains of web design & development.
Remember your physics, voltage doesn't kill, amps do.
It's been about 4 years since i studied physics, but if I recall correctly, you need both amps and volts to be dangerous. Niether high voltage with very low amps nor high amps with very low voltage is dangerous... its actually the combination of the two, which is wattage (power) that is dangerous. Someone correct me if i am wrong here.
or maybe it's like the 80s thing with the ripped jeans... "c'mon mom, database errors are cool. the site isn't supposed to work... you just don't get it."
did anyone notice that the USPTO pages offer "view cart" and "add to cart" buttons... seems to me like the USPTO is using a "network sales system" protected under USPTO patent 5,715,314... i wonder if Soverain Software has plans to sue the USPTO. Don't bite the hand that feeds, but bite everyone else's!
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you missed the well documented requirement. try doing anything with Zope that doesn't only use the prebuilt components, and the magic zope genie just evaporated and went back into his bottle. when zope comes out with some actual explanations and documentation of how to do anything actually important with it, I'll consider it again, until then I might as well just DIY with mod_python and some template like psp, cheetah or otherwise.
oh my god thank you. thank you. the app still takes too long and in my opinion no PDF document wouldn't be better served as html, but now at least i can somewhat stand to look at PDFs when i absolutely have to.
The idiot slowing down one lane of a 4 lane freeway by doing 5 miles under the speed limit
As long as he isn't in a passing lane, it is his right to go whatever speed he wants, as long as there is no minumum speed limit posted at which time he must at least go that fast (usually 45 or so), and its your job to deal with it, and deal with in a safe and, hopefully, courteous manner.
Driving slower than most people is a practice I engage in regularly. Slower is just plain safer and I can maintain an appropriate distance to the vehicle in front of me, which 99.99% of drivers almost never do.
The real idiots are the ones who race up behind the 55/60mph guy (me), tailgate him for a while, then whip out around and pass like a dumb jerk, when they should have just changed lanes as soon as they saw they were approaching a slower vehicle.
there is a very clear and very real genetic predisposition for some people to be alcoholics
If you miss a class in college and say "my car broke down," or "the power went out and my alarm didn't go off," or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that you have to make up the work you missed.
Having a medical explanation for alcholism doesn't give an alcoholic the right not to own up to his/her actions, and I beleive the original point of this thread was that people are shirking responsibility. You can't point to a scientific study to remove your accountibility for drunk driving, or emotional abuse of your children.
I don't think you were claiming that, but I just want to make clear the difference I see between explanations (genetic predisposition etc.) and the bottom line - responsibility. They don't really affect each other, and dwelling on the former doesn't get you anywhere.
Yes, and please, whomever does find the patent(s) in question, please also link to your source of the information, or at least state it, for us folks who don't trust every random piece of information on the internet.
(Someone posted a list of three patents as a comment on the groklaw article, and I would repost them here, but how do we know the info is correct? Where did s/he get that info?)
because maybe somewhere somplace out there there is probably something which is impossible to do in pure CSS
how about aligning the tops and bottoms of css columns (read: floats) without explicitly specifying their height (having height based on content)? the only solutions are restrictive hacks that do not actually make the heights match, they make them visually appear to match using backgrounds, other divs, etc. you couldn't, for example, but a border on each div because their bottom edges would not line up.
this is easily acheived using table layouts - just put each column in a cell and by definition of the table layout, your tops and bottoms line right up. then you can put more cells underneath, rowspan and colspan to your heart's content, use borders, and still maintain a perfectly aligned format that won't die a horrible death if the content violates the precarious widths, heights, and margins requiring for complex css float layouts.
don't get me wrong, i mostly love CSS, but there are things that tables can do that CSS doesn't, and with much less headache, and I don't see any good reason not to use a table in those cases, other than patting yourself on the back for having an evangelically correct "pure" CSS page (which of course feels good in that geeky way, but as the grandparent said, really only works for a certain kind of page.)
i can think of two reasons: one is not paying taxes on the goods, the other is the relationship building aspect of a barter, where you and the other party can reach beyond the wall of money and deal with eachother more intimately. when you buy something, you are virtually eclipsed by the transaction; it becomes the focal point. in a barter, the focal points (note: plural) are each other and the mutual meeting of interests.
what kind of legal rights come into play here? seems to me that this kind of thing should have to be stated on a company-wide policy document which has to be signed by each employee as a condition of being hired... something like 'xyz corp maintains the right to monitor and record all electronic communications originiating from and coming in to said company's network... bla bla... sign here or you're fired'
i've done contracts for agencies who had this kind of document, but i wonder if it is legally required or just an optional measure the company takes to reduce liability?
either way, is there any precedent here for a suit? if my CC was stolen in this manner, i would at least consult a lawyer and find out.
as far as i can envision given my knowldedge of acoustics and human spatial auditory perception, there wouldn't be an accurate way to render sounds emanating from sources deep inside the speaker array. did you notice how the nice flash animation on the iozono website shows a sound source from beyond the speaker array?
let me add another layer of difficulty to the issue:
the human head is pretty wide if your talking about sound waves. sounds coming from the left of the head reach the left ear first, then wrap around the head (losing some frequencies), and enter the right ear later. it is well proven than humans can use this "interaural time delay" to infer the position of the source, and can even detect phase delays for low frequency signals!
so, taking the example of a sound in the center aisle: to be accurate, the sound would have to reach the left ears of the right-side audience members before their right ears, while also reaching right ears of the left-side audience members before their left ears. How can that be acheived using a speaker array on the far left and far right walls of the theatre?
I don't care what browser anyone uses to look at my web pages. My code adheres to published standards, and it is not my problem if a web browser is out of date, or non-compliant.
have you told your clients that this is your position? or maybe you don't have clients and aren't in any way responsible or accountable for the design work you do? i wouldn'hire a web designer who thinks that way.
if some people can't see the site or are seeing it render improperly, then not only has valuable interest in the site been wasted, but those people will then carry negative impressions which will, by word of mouth etc, spread.
if you aren't worried about a rotting userbase, then you can think that way, but most people care if someone wants to see their site but can't. making a site that everyone can see and use properly is overkill, but if you're not even catering to IE6 then either you are trying to target a niche market (okay), or you just don't have your priorities straight, or you just don't have any responsibilities at all.
zend is offering a package that includes the zend accelerator, studio, & encoder for $295 or $450 with upgrades/bells/whistles per year, as long as your company is pulling in less than 100k per year.
i dont work for zend; i bought the package (think its a good deal).
if you insist on free software, there are a number of free php code caching apps as well as development ides available...
now just connect the dots and see how this could result in the differences "proven" on the Disney Channel show. i'm not saying they aren't there, i'm just questioning their origins.
Yes, and i would agree with you, and I should have preemtively responded to your (not unreasonable) counter point.
I think it was clear that i'm talking about the status quo. Many men find highly intelligent women attractive. However unfortunate, this is NOT one of the dominant features of steretypically attractive woman. Looking at popular media, intelligent women CAN be potrayed to be attractive/sexy/etc, but this is a more recent trend and it can often come along with some other gotchas, such as a simultaneous hardening of the pesonality, loss of empathy, compassion, free spiritedness, and other traits which are attributed to other (more popular) stereotypes of attractive women.
Consider the differences in our cultural response to male engineers and female engineers, male auto mechanics and female auto mechanics, male cops and female cops, etc. Take any profession that is typically male dominated and put a woman in that place, and look at the backlash. Now look at professions like secretaries, seamtresses, house maids, and so on, and put men in those positions, and look at the result (men in feminized roles = humiliation).
Don't get me wrong. One of my best male friends in the world is an ace on the sewing machine. But, this kind of social pressure is one reason (among many) why we (men & women) really do end up with different skill sets, which then become so-called "proven differences" when you do tests like on that Disney channel show.
The real problem is not the tests but the assumptions latent in the conclustions drawn from it.
So, one last thing - the original topic here was that women may end up needing a automatic parking feature in their car more than men would. This may or may not be true, but it's not because women are inherently bad at parking. It's that we live in a complex society with lots of overlapping pressures, which may, for exmaple, have the consequence of discouraging women from asserting precise control over a motor vehicle...
There are exhibitable differences in how men and women think and behave, no doubt, but who can show that these differences are not the result of a lifetime of training in a complex social environment under intense pressures?
Maybe you could do an experiment to show that men "have a higher capacity for algebra", or "have a higher capacity for mechanical engineering," by doing some basic tests. However, in our society, women are encouraged NOT to understand algebra and engineering. Why? Because a woman who does is unattractive!! Think about the stereotypes and the status quo here - imagine what the general student opinion would be of a girl in high school who took and aced advanced calculus? Do you think the guys would be "all over her"? What would her friends think? In the greater scheme of the social environment, we enforce gender difference in a very complex interlocking web of pressures.
I just hope nobody takes this anecdotal evidence and makes the wrong conclusion - that men and women have inherent, instrinctive, or otherwise natural propensities for either driving cars or making grocery lists.
:)
Simply put, we get good at what we do, and we "do" gender differences all the time, therefore we get good at them
It sounds no more synthetic than punchcards used by old pianos in westerns.
There is not really any boundary either way on MIDI in terms of "sounding synthetic" or otherwise. Why? Because MIDI isn't sound... it doesn't sound like anything. You could use MIDI to trigger a sampler that plays back a Coltrain solo, which would sound exactly like a Coltrain solo. MIDI is an abstract protocol for controlling machines that has nothing do with sound until you've actually hooked it up to some kind of sound producing device that responds to it, of which there are countless numbers that do all manners of conceivable digital audio playback, synthesis, and effects...
As for midi, try being moved by a synthisized speech of any good written work
This implies a conflation of MIDI itself and poor use of it with shoddy equipment, eg in the stereotypical "midi songs" you'll hear on your soundblaster when you load some obnoxious web page.
MIDI is a protocol for sending electronic musical instruments control messages. It actually contains a lot more capacity for musical description than standard sheet music. It not only conveys precise notation of pitches, durations, note velocities, etc, but also can carry up to 127 simultanous streams of "continuous controller" data, which can be used to modulate any conceivable paramter of a synthesizer generating or effecting electronic sound.
"MIDI music" doesn't exist: the music can only exist when MIDI is sent to a synth, and much of the art of electronic music is in the synths, not the MIDI.
This brings me to my final point (actually about the article), which is that the author's type of musical analysis would be mostly pointless to apply to many forms of modern electronic music, because most of the musical content is in the variations of synthetic manipulation of sound, things that cannot be "notated" and definately defy a statistical analysis of pitch and rhythm. For example, it would be common in electronic music to have a single note that lasts many measures, but moves through a breathtaking sweep of tonal development. Theres a lot more going on there than "start note, wait, stop note," (and the MIDI data that created it would be virtually useless if applied to a different synthesizer)
Or at least while your searching for a job, keep an open mind and be sniffing the air for entrepreneurial opportunities. Find a need with a market and fill it. It doesn't have to be big or original. Things are changing all the time, and like waterfalls, these changes are energy sources you can tap into and make money. Why work for someone else? Why compete for the scraps from some other entrepreneur's table? Entrepreneurship isn't for everyone, but I don't think enough people really consider it as an option for themselves.
what you describe as boring, i describe as negative space surrounding the core plot, characters, and metaphysics of the movie. GitS is so good in my opinion is because it is reflective - it leaves room for the contemplation of the experiences and meanings that are woven through it. As a simple example, there are frequently pauses in the dialogue or action where nobody is speaking or really doing anything, but time is passing, rain is falling, the characters are watching their surroundings, and what have you, and in that space, there are forces at work that weave a thing that is beautiful, horrific, bizarre, and definately spiritual...
it (or something similar) will be the standard in advertising websites similar to PDFs and documents
is that supposed to be good? anytime a document i need is only available in PDF, theres a little voice screaming inside my head: now i get to wait for 90 seconds while my pc is cold, hard, locked down as adobe acrobat's massive, bloated codebase climbs into my ram...
the massive computing/graphics power we have today has taken away all the fun
yes and it's taken away the high frame rate too and a lot of the artfulness. lots of new demos that i've watched today run at a disgustingly slow frame rate on my p4 2.8ghz w/ nvidia geForce2. come on, really now. the old demo scene is turning in its grave... if folks would just focus on artfulness, composition, and emotive impact instead of how many triangles are being rendered...
well, why don't you take a look at what the site offers... theres a lot more than HTML tutorials on there. notice the categories "programming" and "backend"? "multimedia"? if it was only html, it wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is. its a really great resource that is extremely helpful to beginners in lots of different domains of web design & development.
Remember your physics, voltage doesn't kill, amps do.
It's been about 4 years since i studied physics, but if I recall correctly, you need both amps and volts to be dangerous. Niether high voltage with very low amps nor high amps with very low voltage is dangerous... its actually the combination of the two, which is wattage (power) that is dangerous. Someone correct me if i am wrong here.
or maybe it's like the 80s thing with the ripped jeans... "c'mon mom, database errors are cool. the site isn't supposed to work... you just don't get it."
did anyone notice that the USPTO pages offer "view cart" and "add to cart" buttons... seems to me like the USPTO is using a "network sales system" protected under USPTO patent 5,715,314... i wonder if Soverain Software has plans to sue the USPTO. Don't bite the hand that feeds, but bite everyone else's!