Yeah, Evan and Bill Acker had a discussion on one of the tapes where they talk about how that little bit of hyperbole really translates into like two phreaks with maybe four lines between them or so being able to busy out a trunk group (for which there are alternate routings). I think it was a postscript to the introduction to tandem stacking but I'm not quite sure.
Semi-related: Evan recently resumed publishing his How I Became a Phone Phreak series over at evan-doorbell.com.
The vast majority of voters voted for Hillary. She won the popular vote.
No, the vast majority of voters voted for someone other than Hillary Clinton. She didn't carry the majority but, at best, a plurality of the popular vote.
While that's true, LJ isn't the editor or the moderator yet they're the ones being sued.
That's the point, though: By exercising so much control over their moderators they effectively BECAME the moderators. The moderators became agents of the principal, and their actions became attributed to the principal, hence the DMCA safe harbor no longer applies because it's not a third party doing the posting.
It's not that sites that use moderators can lose their safe harbor protection, but rather sites that give too much direction as to how to moderate AND where moderators exercise prior restraint such that no post goes up without having been reviewed by a moderator, can cause said moderators to be viewed as agents of the sites they moderate for rather than uninvolved third parties (and hence the Safe Harbor no longer applies).
In this case, moderators for a Livejournal community knowingly used photographs that were clearly watermarked such that any reasonable person would know they were copyrighted and they had no fair use rationale for posting them. Because Livejournal provides such explicit direction to moderators, and these moderators held posts for review, there is no way they couldn't have known what they posted, and they thus appeared to do so on behalf of Livejournal.
Communities that don't want to run into this problem simply need to avoid giving too much direction to moderators (since that could be viewed as exercising arbitrary control over them such that they are your agents), don't exercise prior restraint or otherwise hold comments for review, and remove infringing content when you become aware of it.
If you want the real story without the hyperbole and clickbait, try reading the actual fucking ruling.
Great. That's just what we need... the equivalent of MBTI for Hackers. Hey, maybe next April we can come up with a guide to Hackers' astrological signs! I'm sure that will be informative and totally not a navel-gazing waste of time.
At the end of the day it comes down to being able to use the software. If a product works, whether it's open source or not, you'll use it. When both open source and proprietary products are equally buggy and for the same reasons, we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss either one. Instead, we should carefully investigate what's available and choose what actually works. For most consumer needs, open source will still get the job done, bugs and all. For more specialized needs, proprietary may be the only game in town.
Sometimes fanboys need to be reminded that there's still no silver bullet.
...they're quite right. Open Source is not magic pixie dust. As long as software is made with the same broken techniques, the same broken tools, by the same broken people, it will continue to be just as broken as proprietary software. I think after a decade and a half of pro-FOSS FUD it's finally gotten to the point where people are ready to admit that the promise of FOSS has fallen well short of the mark due primarily to a lack of market incentives to ensure software is produced using best current engineering practices.
Consequently, whatever your particular need, you may find that a FOSS application fits the bill where a proprietary one wouldn't, or vice versa. It just depends on exactly what functionality you want, and there's no hard and fast rule to guide you. You literally are forced to try different packages, see which ones are buggy, and then pick the one that's right for you.
The Computer has identified this thread as containing FAKE NEWS and other ungoodthinkful Hatefacts. This thread is therefore terminated. All readers are ordered to report to Room 101 for re-education. Failure will reuslt in a declaration of being PROBLEMATIC and sentence to six months of hard nagging.
You know, it's odd, but I can't find any artifacts relating to PC Pursuit online. I figured someone would've preserved a list of dialups, documentation, or something, but a while back when I went looking I found nothing. It's one of those chapters of BBS history that seemingly has been forgotten.
If it weren't for German immigrant scientists (many undocumented, some Nazis) in the US during WWII, you'd be writing that in Japanese and you wouldn't be writing it from your iPhone...
Those "German immigrant scientists" you're referring to were largely brought over AFTER the war was over in Operation Paperclip. The Japanese military lost when they failed to destroy the American aircraft carriers that were supposed to be at Pearl Harbor.
...as opposed to Imperious Leader Obama whose SCOTUS ruled that they could tax people to implement the so-called Affordable Care Act, despite it being well outside the realm of powers granted to Congress by the Constitution. But please, tell me more about how it's okay when the other side does it... oh, or tell me how it wasn't okay when they did it, but we totes have to obey the law while they don't, because I totally haven't heard that before.
If you want people to respect the Constitution, EVERYONE has to respect the Constitution. Either we are a nation of laws that apply to all or heads are going to roll. This is what you get when one group of people run roughshod over the rest of the country for over a century, so don't act surprised.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who would've preferred an asteroid called "ShutUpWesley"... or simply an asteroid named after someone actually important.
I'm sure it'll be available at the low, LOW price of just $50,000. Such a bargain!
That is, ultimately, what keeps most people from ever considering an electric vehicle: They're just too damn expensive.
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Yeah, Evan and Bill Acker had a discussion on one of the tapes where they talk about how that little bit of hyperbole really translates into like two phreaks with maybe four lines between them or so being able to busy out a trunk group (for which there are alternate routings). I think it was a postscript to the introduction to tandem stacking but I'm not quite sure.
Semi-related: Evan recently resumed publishing his How I Became a Phone Phreak series over at evan-doorbell.com.
I reject your reality and substitute my own: I'll just go to trade school and bypass the socialist indoctrination, thank you very much.
"Why aren't I fifty points ahead, you might be asking..." - tomorrow's headlines today!
Mischief. Mayhem. Rigging the narrative. ZUCK CLUB.
Coming to an election near you, 2018. Rated PC-13(88).
(The TV show Halt and Catch fire reminds me a bit of this era)
Yeah, but halt and Catch Fire's walled garden of choice seems to be a clone of QuantumLink, not Prodigy.
The vast majority of voters voted for Hillary. She won the popular vote.
No, the vast majority of voters voted for someone other than Hillary Clinton. She didn't carry the majority but, at best, a plurality of the popular vote.
"Murder", "rape", "robbery", "incarceration"... just a guess.
While that's true, LJ isn't the editor or the moderator yet they're the ones being sued.
That's the point, though: By exercising so much control over their moderators they effectively BECAME the moderators. The moderators became agents of the principal, and their actions became attributed to the principal, hence the DMCA safe harbor no longer applies because it's not a third party doing the posting.
Yeah, more or less. Too many constraints = arbitrary control = you are now an agent of the principal and your actions are their actions.
It's not that sites that use moderators can lose their safe harbor protection, but rather sites that give too much direction as to how to moderate AND where moderators exercise prior restraint such that no post goes up without having been reviewed by a moderator, can cause said moderators to be viewed as agents of the sites they moderate for rather than uninvolved third parties (and hence the Safe Harbor no longer applies).
In this case, moderators for a Livejournal community knowingly used photographs that were clearly watermarked such that any reasonable person would know they were copyrighted and they had no fair use rationale for posting them. Because Livejournal provides such explicit direction to moderators, and these moderators held posts for review, there is no way they couldn't have known what they posted, and they thus appeared to do so on behalf of Livejournal.
Communities that don't want to run into this problem simply need to avoid giving too much direction to moderators (since that could be viewed as exercising arbitrary control over them such that they are your agents), don't exercise prior restraint or otherwise hold comments for review, and remove infringing content when you become aware of it.
If you want the real story without the hyperbole and clickbait, try reading the actual fucking ruling.
Great. That's just what we need... the equivalent of MBTI for Hackers. Hey, maybe next April we can come up with a guide to Hackers' astrological signs! I'm sure that will be informative and totally not a navel-gazing waste of time.
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Man In the High Castle
These two phrases do not belong in the same sentence.
At the end of the day it comes down to being able to use the software. If a product works, whether it's open source or not, you'll use it. When both open source and proprietary products are equally buggy and for the same reasons, we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss either one. Instead, we should carefully investigate what's available and choose what actually works. For most consumer needs, open source will still get the job done, bugs and all. For more specialized needs, proprietary may be the only game in town.
Sometimes fanboys need to be reminded that there's still no silver bullet.
...they're quite right. Open Source is not magic pixie dust. As long as software is made with the same broken techniques, the same broken tools, by the same broken people, it will continue to be just as broken as proprietary software. I think after a decade and a half of pro-FOSS FUD it's finally gotten to the point where people are ready to admit that the promise of FOSS has fallen well short of the mark due primarily to a lack of market incentives to ensure software is produced using best current engineering practices.
Consequently, whatever your particular need, you may find that a FOSS application fits the bill where a proprietary one wouldn't, or vice versa. It just depends on exactly what functionality you want, and there's no hard and fast rule to guide you. You literally are forced to try different packages, see which ones are buggy, and then pick the one that's right for you.
The Computer has identified this thread as containing FAKE NEWS and other ungoodthinkful Hatefacts. This thread is therefore terminated. All readers are ordered to report to Room 101 for re-education. Failure will reuslt in a declaration of being PROBLEMATIC and sentence to six months of hard nagging.
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You know, it's odd, but I can't find any artifacts relating to PC Pursuit online. I figured someone would've preserved a list of dialups, documentation, or something, but a while back when I went looking I found nothing. It's one of those chapters of BBS history that seemingly has been forgotten.
If it weren't for German immigrant scientists (many undocumented, some Nazis) in the US during WWII, you'd be writing that in Japanese and you wouldn't be writing it from your iPhone...
Those "German immigrant scientists" you're referring to were largely brought over AFTER the war was over in Operation Paperclip. The Japanese military lost when they failed to destroy the American aircraft carriers that were supposed to be at Pearl Harbor.
TL;DR - You're bigoted and ignorant.
...as opposed to Imperious Leader Obama whose SCOTUS ruled that they could tax people to implement the so-called Affordable Care Act, despite it being well outside the realm of powers granted to Congress by the Constitution. But please, tell me more about how it's okay when the other side does it... oh, or tell me how it wasn't okay when they did it, but we totes have to obey the law while they don't, because I totally haven't heard that before.
If you want people to respect the Constitution, EVERYONE has to respect the Constitution. Either we are a nation of laws that apply to all or heads are going to roll. This is what you get when one group of people run roughshod over the rest of the country for over a century, so don't act surprised.
Furthermore, the core philosophy of America was that all men are created equal and have inalienable rights, not just its own citizens.
...except 3/5ths people and aliens who commit sedition, AMIRITE?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who would've preferred an asteroid called "ShutUpWesley"... or simply an asteroid named after someone actually important.
Yahoo had positive revenue before she got there. Hardly worthless.
I'm sure it'll be available at the low, LOW price of just $50,000. Such a bargain! That is, ultimately, what keeps most people from ever considering an electric vehicle: They're just too damn expensive.
Ah yes, I must've been hallucinating all that talk about yellowcake that was used to justify the invasion.
Are these the same "fact checkers" who told us that Iraq had nuclear weapons?