What if the spec was simply "MS WORD, EXCEL, POWERPOINT, AND access? Oh while we're at it, please make sure the OS is compatible with every software that has been written for the Windows OS system.
Jokes aside I don't think EU did not weight the cost of developing and putting everything on the Open Source platform and compare it with Micorsoft's offer. Afterall any big contract will have to go through at least a bidding process in some form or fashion. Both Apple and Microsoft had been giving heavy discount to government and education users since day one of their business model. It provides saving for the public agencies and provide a common platform for average users. I for one see it as beneficial to the government and saves public money.
Every vendor's nightmare is when their customer bring a quote from another customer and ask for more discount. For that reason the quotes and bids are usually confidential. This would also be the main reason for MS not wanting to disclose the figure and have it showing up on news paper's headline (or on slashdot's parent posting) is to prevent the governments around the world to "shop" the contract price with a quote from another country. I.E. Chinese government Using the quote negotiated for EU to get a even "lower" number. It can be simple as "If you want to continue to do business in China and being viewed favorablly, you need to give me a bigger discount than you gave EU". This unavoidably starts a negative pricing cycle for MS in which it cannot win. Keep in mind MS not only does business in demobratic countries that have well regulated commercial system but also doing lots of business with public and private entities in countries with either totalitarian rules or countries with weakly regulated systems which any business can easily be taken advantage upon, or countries under both conditions. In a perfect world It would be nice to have the figure disclosed as public information, but the world is far from being perfect. And Microsoft, like any business entities that is serious on keep making money, would do what it takes (legally and within reason, of course) to protect itself from harm.
I would bet you there is no exact public information on how much is Microsoft's contracts with the federal and state agencies (including public universities). You might find a few specific figures, but not every one of them (defense already excluded).
Yeah... Can you really trust those people, they are so... non-Chaney Like!!!
Secretely every generals love the Darth Vador. They just can't admit it out of fear of public outcry...
I'm a Republican and I don't hate either the rich or the poor. I really can't care any less if we do Omaba's plan or McMain's plan. Either plan will work to a certain degree and it will have downfall if we push it too far. I just don't want to Unionize the entire US workforce, including the engineering discipline. Certification and licensing is a much better way to guarentee individual's ability to retain a job while make good money off it.
Now that I have stated my affiliation I guess I should expect to get mod down on Karma now...
If I have the mod point I will seriously Mod You down. For someone who had served his country by being a POW without renouncing his country should be resognized because of his strength of will and his love for his country (and the honor of his country). Love him or hate him of Presidential candidate or even being a Republican in general should have nothing to do with respecting his effort, under difficulties, to keep his country's honor.
He paid the price of the failed mission by being captured and tortured. I don't think you need to pile on him by calling what he had to go through a disgrace.
Our company ties the PBX to the exchange server and we get email notification when there is a new VM. you can open the vm as an audio attachment. works real nice when you travel to another corporate location, which we do quite often.
Did I mention I also have a Blackberry? Yeah with that you got the "virtual VM" function. Makes the whole thing works a lot nicer.
Since I'm a EE doing industrial controls. I decide to do a quick check on the wireless laser mouse from Logitech I take with me everywhere.
I found the compliance certificate for the mentioned 2.4 GHz cordless mouse to be certified by the test result done by one MET laboratories, Inc. out of Baltimore, MD.
Based on the certificate, my wireless mouse put out 0.00016 Watts, in the frequency range of 2402.0-2479.0 MHz, with a frequency Tolerance of 66.0 PM. The FCC Emission Designator is 750KF1D (you probably knows which model I have by now). It also says that the mouse confirms to the CFR title 47, FCC part 15C rule for the low power transceiver. Oh did I mention it is also UL listed?
Based on my understanding the electrical equipments were sent to the lab, put in a faraday cage, and measure the amount of EMR they produced, as a stand-alone package (with everything assembled). I don't think the rules has changed that much through out the time. I sincerely doubt a 0.00016 watts of emission is going to have any chance of causing ANY interference on a typical wires. A wire with even the minimum amount of shielding (can be achieved by a very thin layer of grounded metallic shield over the insulators) would guarenteed that the mouse mentioned above would be in no way, shape, or form, cause any interference to be concerned of.
Run another check on the power rating of the device. It is rated to use 3V, 100mA power. So even if my mouse went bezerk and somehow using all the power to transmitt the radio frequency on its transceiver it would still produce a maximum of.3 watts (at a voltage of mere 3 volts), it still could not induce enough power to effect the signals on any hard-wired controls.
In the past I have seen a bundled 110 VAC wires inducing 12VAC on a pair of unpowered wires in the same cable way (they are wired to something but the power was killed). But at 3 volts DC it is far too low on the voltage level to induce anything significant to a hardwire controls that was supposed to have a lot higher voltage on the signals than the wireless mouse. Hopefully that was enough to debunk the "fly-by-mouse" theory.
My company and I are interested in going from XP to Windows 7 as well. We are paying the annual support license fee still. I guess Microsoft is not losing a dime over our decision.
After 3rd party patching, anti-virus, and corporateware are installed, churning on the computer 24/7 anyway? Remember how long your "email machine" takes to boot up this morning?
I tried to bootup my laptop and log-in off-line. The results are the same. It takes a significant amount of time to go through the log-in process, demonstrating that the corporateware is churning away some process unknown to average user. My personal laptop does not take nearly as that long to bring it up and running and it has a much older processor than the Core2Duo in my work machine.
Appearantly a lot of the convervatives are not that way. People like me are "concerned" however will keep their mouth shut when their friends share with them their more "liberal" thoughts that we do not exactly agree with. Liberals, on the other hand, most likely will jump at you and tell you how wrong you are.
For the record I have never called anyone a flip-flopper. That is a political attack that belongs to political process. Similar dirty tricks will be flying out of each camp this year as well. That has nothing to do with being a Liberal or Conservative minded.
Dude, where did you get this piece of information. After reading so many comments from the/.ers you are the very first to say that. I don't know if you have proper reference to make that claim or are trying for a spin doctor's job for the Washington elites.
She is firmly pro-life and conflicts with her party on corruption and fiscal responsibility. She'll appeal to the base but not the party leadership.
Which is exactly what I like to see: rid of the party leadership, but keep the pure conservative spirit. I like it better than the liberals who always think of others are wrong or "stupid" if they don't share the same thought as they do.
Bush will be out of the office in 5 months. How is he going to set the world on fire in five years? Especially if you think Obama is going to win the election?
I'm very sorry your feeling get hurt over the sentiments of the majority here. I can understand your point of each country should have equal oppurtunity to advance its own science and technology. However there are a few points you missed.
Iran's central government is lead by religious fanatics who the rest of the world do not trust their intentions. Once developed, the officials and the military will have access to the precious technology you developed for peace, and use it for war. It does not matter if the science and engineering communities inside Iran are religious nutbags or not.
Unless you can convince the majority of people on/. that the Revolutionary Army will not "touch" your space technology developed for peace, people will be fearful of Iran owning any space and nuclear technology.
My point is Iran doesn't only contain religious nutbags,
The few religious nutbags happends to be the leaders of the country. They silence and kill any civilians who disagree with them. Does that not concern you?
Great idea. Just one small problem: It is harder to have a design a system to keep a human alive coming down from space than just a system to deliver a payload hitting the ground relatively close. Say, 10 km for a nuke?
I don't think it makes a huge difference to have a ICBM size nuke explodes in Mahhattan or Bronx. All New Yorkers suffer and die anyway.
The US for instance is currently ruled by representatives of Big Oil and private military corporations
If US is truely ruled by the Big Oil Company and Private Military Corporation, Democratic congressional leaders would not be in the Congress and the Senate. Obama will have zero chance getting elected being the next president. Also you would most likely not be alived since the private "big brothers" is praying on you!
Don't believe me? See what the Chinese govt. did to the protestors and those petition to protest in the Olympic. Private corporation would have even less restrain than the Chinese govt. You should be glad that they do not actually rule US, only having significant influences.
Anyone who is running withe some serious sensitive data should deal with it on the database and run it on a server. The actual sensitive data should reside in an NAS farm. That's trusted computing, period.
What we really need is a single authoritative body (or committee) that can certify components for Linux (and the logo). It may sound like a load of crap but that's really what those manufacture wants!
The "certified" badge to a manufacture is very much like carrot on a stick to a horse. That's how they measure up themselves. I personally think that it would be a much easier to do business with a single certification board as well, even if the manufacture had to pay for the testing cost. At the end of the day it makes everyone happy.
If Child performs so poorly, how was he competent enough to become the indispensable person he is? Also how was he even capable of implement a high-risk, high-skilled security scheme that no one else in his organization can do anythign about it?
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What if the spec was simply "MS WORD, EXCEL, POWERPOINT, AND access? Oh while we're at it, please make sure the OS is compatible with every software that has been written for the Windows OS system.
Jokes aside I don't think EU did not weight the cost of developing and putting everything on the Open Source platform and compare it with Micorsoft's offer. Afterall any big contract will have to go through at least a bidding process in some form or fashion. Both Apple and Microsoft had been giving heavy discount to government and education users since day one of their business model. It provides saving for the public agencies and provide a common platform for average users. I for one see it as beneficial to the government and saves public money.
Every vendor's nightmare is when their customer bring a quote from another customer and ask for more discount. For that reason the quotes and bids are usually confidential. This would also be the main reason for MS not wanting to disclose the figure and have it showing up on news paper's headline (or on slashdot's parent posting) is to prevent the governments around the world to "shop" the contract price with a quote from another country. I.E. Chinese government Using the quote negotiated for EU to get a even "lower" number. It can be simple as "If you want to continue to do business in China and being viewed favorablly, you need to give me a bigger discount than you gave EU". This unavoidably starts a negative pricing cycle for MS in which it cannot win. Keep in mind MS not only does business in demobratic countries that have well regulated commercial system but also doing lots of business with public and private entities in countries with either totalitarian rules or countries with weakly regulated systems which any business can easily be taken advantage upon, or countries under both conditions. In a perfect world It would be nice to have the figure disclosed as public information, but the world is far from being perfect. And Microsoft, like any business entities that is serious on keep making money, would do what it takes (legally and within reason, of course) to protect itself from harm.
I would bet you there is no exact public information on how much is Microsoft's contracts with the federal and state agencies (including public universities). You might find a few specific figures, but not every one of them (defense already excluded).
Yeah... Can you really trust those people, they are so... non-Chaney Like!!! Secretely every generals love the Darth Vador. They just can't admit it out of fear of public outcry...
I'm a Republican and I don't hate either the rich or the poor. I really can't care any less if we do Omaba's plan or McMain's plan. Either plan will work to a certain degree and it will have downfall if we push it too far. I just don't want to Unionize the entire US workforce, including the engineering discipline. Certification and licensing is a much better way to guarentee individual's ability to retain a job while make good money off it.
Now that I have stated my affiliation I guess I should expect to get mod down on Karma now...
If I have the mod point I will seriously Mod You down. For someone who had served his country by being a POW without renouncing his country should be resognized because of his strength of will and his love for his country (and the honor of his country). Love him or hate him of Presidential candidate or even being a Republican in general should have nothing to do with respecting his effort, under difficulties, to keep his country's honor.
He paid the price of the failed mission by being captured and tortured. I don't think you need to pile on him by calling what he had to go through a disgrace.
Using American Teenager culture to convert extremists? Brilliant!!
Our company ties the PBX to the exchange server and we get email notification when there is a new VM. you can open the vm as an audio attachment. works real nice when you travel to another corporate location, which we do quite often.
Did I mention I also have a Blackberry? Yeah with that you got the "virtual VM" function. Makes the whole thing works a lot nicer.
Since I'm a EE doing industrial controls. I decide to do a quick check on the wireless laser mouse from Logitech I take with me everywhere.
I found the compliance certificate for the mentioned 2.4 GHz cordless mouse to be certified by the test result done by one MET laboratories, Inc. out of Baltimore, MD.
Based on the certificate, my wireless mouse put out 0.00016 Watts, in the frequency range of 2402.0-2479.0 MHz, with a frequency Tolerance of 66.0 PM. The FCC Emission Designator is 750KF1D (you probably knows which model I have by now). It also says that the mouse confirms to the CFR title 47, FCC part 15C rule for the low power transceiver. Oh did I mention it is also UL listed?
Based on my understanding the electrical equipments were sent to the lab, put in a faraday cage, and measure the amount of EMR they produced, as a stand-alone package (with everything assembled). I don't think the rules has changed that much through out the time. I sincerely doubt a 0.00016 watts of emission is going to have any chance of causing ANY interference on a typical wires. A wire with even the minimum amount of shielding (can be achieved by a very thin layer of grounded metallic shield over the insulators) would guarenteed that the mouse mentioned above would be in no way, shape, or form, cause any interference to be concerned of.
Run another check on the power rating of the device. It is rated to use 3V, 100mA power. So even if my mouse went bezerk and somehow using all the power to transmitt the radio frequency on its transceiver it would still produce a maximum of .3 watts (at a voltage of mere 3 volts), it still could not induce enough power to effect the signals on any hard-wired controls.
In the past I have seen a bundled 110 VAC wires inducing 12VAC on a pair of unpowered wires in the same cable way (they are wired to something but the power was killed). But at 3 volts DC it is far too low on the voltage level to induce anything significant to a hardwire controls that was supposed to have a lot higher voltage on the signals than the wireless mouse. Hopefully that was enough to debunk the "fly-by-mouse" theory.
My company and I are interested in going from XP to Windows 7 as well. We are paying the annual support license fee still. I guess Microsoft is not losing a dime over our decision.
After 3rd party patching, anti-virus, and corporateware are installed, churning on the computer 24/7 anyway? Remember how long your "email machine" takes to boot up this morning?
I tried to bootup my laptop and log-in off-line. The results are the same. It takes a significant amount of time to go through the log-in process, demonstrating that the corporateware is churning away some process unknown to average user. My personal laptop does not take nearly as that long to bring it up and running and it has a much older processor than the Core2Duo in my work machine.
Appearantly a lot of the convervatives are not that way. People like me are "concerned" however will keep their mouth shut when their friends share with them their more "liberal" thoughts that we do not exactly agree with. Liberals, on the other hand, most likely will jump at you and tell you how wrong you are.
For the record I have never called anyone a flip-flopper. That is a political attack that belongs to political process. Similar dirty tricks will be flying out of each camp this year as well. That has nothing to do with being a Liberal or Conservative minded.
Does your girlfriend subscribe to Slashdot?
Which the kid REQUESTED
Dude, where did you get this piece of information. After reading so many comments from the /.ers you are the very first to say that. I don't know if you have proper reference to make that claim or are trying for a spin doctor's job for the Washington elites.
She is firmly pro-life and conflicts with her party on corruption and fiscal responsibility. She'll appeal to the base but not the party leadership.
Which is exactly what I like to see: rid of the party leadership, but keep the pure conservative spirit. I like it better than the liberals who always think of others are wrong or "stupid" if they don't share the same thought as they do.
Bush will be out of the office in 5 months. How is he going to set the world on fire in five years? Especially if you think Obama is going to win the election?
I'm very sorry your feeling get hurt over the sentiments of the majority here. I can understand your point of each country should have equal oppurtunity to advance its own science and technology. However there are a few points you missed.
/. that the Revolutionary Army will not "touch" your space technology developed for peace, people will be fearful of Iran owning any space and nuclear technology.
Iran's central government is lead by religious fanatics who the rest of the world do not trust their intentions. Once developed, the officials and the military will have access to the precious technology you developed for peace, and use it for war. It does not matter if the science and engineering communities inside Iran are religious nutbags or not.
Unless you can convince the majority of people on
My point is Iran doesn't only contain religious nutbags,
The few religious nutbags happends to be the leaders of the country. They silence and kill any civilians who disagree with them. Does that not concern you?
Great idea. Just one small problem: It is harder to have a design a system to keep a human alive coming down from space than just a system to deliver a payload hitting the ground relatively close. Say, 10 km for a nuke?
I don't think it makes a huge difference to have a ICBM size nuke explodes in Mahhattan or Bronx. All New Yorkers suffer and die anyway.
If US is truely ruled by the Big Oil Company and Private Military Corporation, Democratic congressional leaders would not be in the Congress and the Senate. Obama will have zero chance getting elected being the next president. Also you would most likely not be alived since the private "big brothers" is praying on you!
Don't believe me? See what the Chinese govt. did to the protestors and those petition to protest in the Olympic. Private corporation would have even less restrain than the Chinese govt. You should be glad that they do not actually rule US, only having significant influences.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/20/asia/protest.php/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7567703.stm/
My home e-mail, bill@billrocks.org, is also getting far less spam now for a couple weeks.
Don't worry bud. you just posted your email address on /. You'll get your spam back as you have wished for...
*Endless Evil Laughers follows*
Anyone who is running withe some serious sensitive data should deal with it on the database and run it on a server. The actual sensitive data should reside in an NAS farm. That's trusted computing, period.
Will we see EFI based mobo that are not Mac anytime soon?
The reason girls and Windows users don't understand UNIX is because all the documentation is in Man files.
Dude, I can't help but let out a chuckle on your sig. I just had to say it. Nothing related to the post. Moving on.
What we really need is a single authoritative body (or committee) that can certify components for Linux (and the logo). It may sound like a load of crap but that's really what those manufacture wants!
The "certified" badge to a manufacture is very much like carrot on a stick to a horse. That's how they measure up themselves. I personally think that it would be a much easier to do business with a single certification board as well, even if the manufacture had to pay for the testing cost. At the end of the day it makes everyone happy.
If Child performs so poorly, how was he competent enough to become the indispensable person he is? Also how was he even capable of implement a high-risk, high-skilled security scheme that no one else in his organization can do anythign about it?
Something in this story doesn't add up...