Splendid, and you will pay the absurd amounts of money necessary to keep him shuttling between the courts, prison and probation for the rest of his life.
American justice -- the second biggest demonstration of the broken window fallacy since Operation Iraqi Freedom.
How is this the second biggest demonstration of failed politics? This is clearly bigger. The failed justice system in the US is a far bigger problem - in the US - than the war in Iraq.
Better question: What kind of kid who at least *thinks* he might be capable of hacking the school's system wouldnt be aware of cloud storage/backup? Clearly setting a fire would do nothing to cloud stored data.
In the western world we know that children think and reason differently, don't oversee all consequences of their actions, and because of that we try them differently, in juvenile court. A 15 year old who did not perform on a test, panics and does something stupid. Panic means: no reasoning, no oversight, and the existence of backups is totally forgotten, even if he knows about it.
In the US there is a tendency to try more children as adults, especially when the crime is big, like murder. This is the general tendency resulting from rage and frustration when people are not satisfied with their own situation, and they need someone to blame. They need a black sheep.
This is not a big crime. If the school burnt down, if someone died, that would have been something else. It could have, but it didn't. It's the same when you stab someone with a knife. If two people do this to two victims, stab them in a similar way, and one dies, the other not, the sentences will be different, although intentions and acts in this (imaginative) case are similar.
Nobody was hurt, the next day it was business as usual. So give this kid a reasonable sentence for the damage done, and let him have a chance to see his error and learn from it. The lesson should be that he was lucky that this didn't turn into something really big. Next time his luck may change, and this experience may hold him back then. Send him to prison for seven years and he will come out as a wreck or as a professional criminal. Who wants that?
Decent people don't want to be associated with people like MikeeUSA, the fact that the anti-systemd people seem happy to associate with him isn't going to help their cause.
What about this one: "decent people don't want to be associated with people like Hitler, the fact that the vegetarian people seem happy to associate with him isn't going to help their cause."
See what I did there? (no, that doesn't qualify as Godwin, not yet)
I'm one of these anti-systemd people, and I don't want to be associated in anyway with a troll like MikeeUSA. He's behavior has nothing to do with accepting or not systemd and trying to make some kind of true-scotman-non-sequitur-bullshit out of it is utter non-sense.
Godwin's Law is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" — that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
This is a perfect example - even if it is not a troll, even if it's meant to tell us that this is not a Godwin, even if meant as a serious answer.
How many people would think to first check the Red Cross website first
To be honest, I would have expected the Red Cross to have more important things to do and I wouldn't want to bother them.
Then again, I would have thought people in a disaster would have more important things to do than to go on Facebook.
The Red Cross is a big organisation. They probably have their own IT department, which is located somewhere in Europe or the US, or maybe even in India, but not on the location of the disaster. IT is essential to an organization like the RC, for themselves, but also for victims.
One essential part of recovery from a disaster is stress release. If you know what happened to your family, that saves you from a lot of stress, the stress of uncertainty, even in the case that they are dead. If they are alive, you can contact them, and that helps them recover more easily. Social contact is essential.
Facebook and Google could put a link to the RC website on top of their page for all people who login from Nepal, but better they should use their own site and create an API to the RC database, and sync data.
"The government" isn't one big entity. There are a lot of agencies in it and some have very conflicting goals. Even in the NSA itself some will be working on securing everything more so that their government is safe from spying while others will be working on breaking everything more, so that other governments can be spied on.
And isn't this just really a grant? Its not like darpa controls the implementation, they just point out what they want to be worked on, no?
I suppose the code is open source, and I guess that code will be closely monitored. If they really want secure code, to secure agents abroad or even locally to make sure they cannot be tracked down, this is a good thing for everybody.
you don't have to like the USA, but if you look at the leadership of the USA, and you look at the leadership of ISIS, and you see the same kind of people, you aren't announcing an understanding of the world, you are merely announcing that you have a horribly stunted social defect, and no grasp on moral reasoning
the usa has done horrible horrible things in the world. but to examine their motivations, actions, targets, etc., and see the same as ISIS on those measures, you're a moron on this topic. there's no other nicer way to say it. and it's not a baseless insult to call you that. it's an objective appraisal of the quality of the words you have written and the topic at hand. you're a socially stunted individual who should stop talking about a topic you lack the social abilities to understand
The USA just has a better track record at covering up. Look at who supported and designed the terror in Chili and Argentina in the 60s and 70s: CIA, with the helping hand of Ford Motor Company and Chicago University. Of course, the CIA didn't do any torture or killing, they just advised and gave support. Ford supplied cars and "students". Look at how Iraq is destroyed by US presence.
Now the CIA blame Iran for destroying Iraq - how ironic! Wasn't it the CIA who helped the Shah take power in a country that was on its way to a very reasonable democracy? If the US had kept out of Iran and Iraq, and hadn't helped Israel abuse its power in Palestine, I doubt if ISIS would have existed.
What ISIS does is horrific, but it's completely comparable to all terror done in South America by Pinochet and by the military in Brasil and Argentina.
we're back to the days of cherry picking the most expensive not apple vendors and using those to justify apple's prices. There's more to the android market than samsung and HTC, and they're losing marketshare to other smaller players that are allowed to exist in the android model unlike apple's ecosystem.
My next phone will absolutely not be one of these overpriced locked down messes.
Well at least he named examples, you just made claims so who are those smaller vendors who offer smartphones that have the same performance and are qualitatively comparable to the HCT and Samsung flagship smartphones, but at significantly lower prices?
He didn't make the claim that those cheaper devices were comparable in performance. I'm with him. My Sony Z1 is good enough for me, and for half the price. Paying $900 for a phone that will last for two years - not for me!
The budget deficit in the US is also unsustainable in the long run. You guys must enjoy being able to "print" the reserve currency while it lasts.
Keeping the budget deficit high and preferably making it bigger is key to neoliberal politics. The higher the deficit, the less money is available for all those leftist / socialist / communist hobbies like healthcare plans, unemployment benefits etc. Obama has done his fair deal to repair things, like his healthcare plan, but the problems that Bush has created in eight years cannot be undone in eight years. That will take much longer.
I've used GPG since... I don't even know, for a very long time. However, since I communicate a lot internationally, and I don't know (and I don't want to know) about every country's regulations regarding encryption, I gave up sending encrypted e-mails at the very beginning, but I still always sign my mails. I never even thought about how many people use or don't use GPG, it's just been there, ever so useful - and I think that's good so. I think "run its course" is harsh though. Why? Because one Moxie Marlinspike says so? Bollocks. If it's useful - and it is -, it's good to have it.
Not only that, but look at the Enigmail interface. Once it's installed and configured, it's only clicking the icons in the status bar and entering a password. I sign all mail as well.
I know quite a few people who have started using GPG via the Enigmail plug-in for Thunderbird lately. The length of the man page is irrelevant and they never publish their keys so are effectively invisible to the statistics. That doesn't mean that it isn't an extremely useful, valuable piece of software though.
I use Thunderbird with Enigmail, mostly to sign my emails to get other people used to seeing signed mails, with an attachment with the signature in it. I've got one question about this, a friend asking what that mysterious attachment was and I explained it. I created an IMAP mail account that I only use to make notes that I can easily share among different computers. All these notes are encrypted using my public key. I can open them on the computer which has my private key.
Your comment about being invisible to statistics does not mean being invisible to NSA and GCHQ. As they and several other agencies scan all mail, they will see these attachments, they will see mail headers and other signs that mail being encrypted, whatever method you use. So they will know that your friends use GPG.
This is good, or bad, depending on the tightness of your tin foil, but I think it reveals something far more important about encryption: we, the average users, are powerless to verify or truly trust any encryption solution offered. To realize that an audit of the code for a single-purpose program can only be done by a very small set of people shows that even with open source we're still just trusting others to safeguard our data. The need for encryption and the mathematical and coding complexity required to understand what we are using to safeguard our data is simply beyond our ability to check that it even makes sense at a basic level.
We - even IT power users and programmers - are mostly powerless to verify not only encryption programs, but the underlying OS as well. As Shutterworth said, if you use our OS, you have to trust us, because we have root.
I still think they are not as bad as some countries we consider allies
And who would that be? I can only think of North Korea, who are worse than Cuba...
Well how about Iraq, Chili, Iran, Saudi Arabia. I bet all of them have done much more bad stuff in the past, or at least comparable. And North Korea is not an ally!
FALSE!!! The answer is not encryption because they will simply ban encryption. The TRUE answer is YOU engaging in direct POLITICAL action to bring the laws and candidates YOU want into place. Then you can encrypt all you want forever. You can even outlaw wiretaps.
The answer is not political action with candidates, because the people *don't care*.
The answer is getting people to care.
That means schools and media campaigns, and exposing abuses of the system.
Spot on! But who is going to pay for those campaigns?
Swedish said the breach is extensive: the vulnerable data included "names, birthdays, medical IDs/social security numbers, street addresses, email addresses and employment information, including income data," though "no credit card or medical information, such as claims, test results or diagnostic codes were targeted or compromised."
Security was breached, personal information was stolen, but no CC or medical information. Can they tell us what prevented the theft of medical information? How can that information be used to prevent the future theft of data with other companies? Using the same methods, could it protect things like employment info and income data? Can systems be designed to be more bullet proof?
My first guess is that the medical information was on different servers, maybe at different locations, and access to those systems was not that easy. Given the fact that systems will be broken into, how can you design these big information systems in such a way that only a limited amount of data can be stolen?
No, the other function of eating is NOT stress release. Some people (even cultures) use food this way but it is no a function of eating.
Great! So tell me then, what is the other function according to you? Btw, I don't say that nature intended eating to result in stress release, but it does function that way. It's just one of those things that evolve as a side effect of other functions.
Changing your daily habits permanently is the way to go. I always overhear conversations saying someone lost weight and it came back right away. Well sure, they fell back into their old habits!
Isn't a habit permanent? But anyways, temporary changes won't help and probably will harm you more than do good. Think of the yoyo effect.
Science actually figured it out about 100 years ago: it doesn't matter much what you eat because unless you embark on a weird diet you will get all the nutrients you need; and the way to maintain weight is to eat the right _amount_ of food. People worry about third order effects and ignore the first order principles. It's not "science's" fault that people don't want to bother learning what's already known about how things work.
The problem is that eating has one major other function besides nutricion: stress release. And then another power kicks in: positive reinforcement. Eating makes us feel less bad (less stress) and thus makes us feel good or at least better. There are some very tricky mechanisms that work to keep us in this trap. Once you start to eat more to feel better, it will be very difficult to undo that habit. And it's all about habits. If you start running daily, and you feel good about it, it's positive reinforcement once again, and it may compensate. Changing your daily habits is the way to go.
Then switch from Java or Python to Groovy. It's got a REPL tool like Python and Ruby, compiles to Java bytecode with tight Java interop and usually looks more like Ruby or Python than most people's Java code. That and it's a substantially more marketable language than any dialect of BASIC.
Better learn them the basics in a programming language that will be around for the next 10-20 years. Python will, but Groovy? Never heard of it, or heard of it and forgot about it. I wouldn't recommend it. It will learn some people skills that are useful for simple tasks, on any platform. Some of them will move on to other languages, and for those people it doesn't matter if it's groovy or python. But for those who learn only one language - this one - it will matter.
So by their own standards, the US had used an act of war against a foreign nation. Will they be attacking themselves, seeing as they're the world's police?
Who cares. They can't convict them for those A-bomb tests thanks to Putin, with Guantanamo they can't complain about Camp 14 or 18, and the link to Saddam Hussein is a dead end. Now they can bring in the corporate lawyers - much more effective!
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Splendid, and you will pay the absurd amounts of money necessary to keep him shuttling between the courts, prison and probation for the rest of his life.
American justice -- the second biggest demonstration of the broken window fallacy since Operation Iraqi Freedom.
How is this the second biggest demonstration of failed politics? This is clearly bigger. The failed justice system in the US is a far bigger problem - in the US - than the war in Iraq.
Better question: What kind of kid who at least *thinks* he might be capable of hacking the school's system wouldnt be aware of cloud storage/backup? Clearly setting a fire would do nothing to cloud stored data.
In the western world we know that children think and reason differently, don't oversee all consequences of their actions, and because of that we try them differently, in juvenile court. A 15 year old who did not perform on a test, panics and does something stupid. Panic means: no reasoning, no oversight, and the existence of backups is totally forgotten, even if he knows about it.
In the US there is a tendency to try more children as adults, especially when the crime is big, like murder. This is the general tendency resulting from rage and frustration when people are not satisfied with their own situation, and they need someone to blame. They need a black sheep.
This is not a big crime. If the school burnt down, if someone died, that would have been something else. It could have, but it didn't. It's the same when you stab someone with a knife. If two people do this to two victims, stab them in a similar way, and one dies, the other not, the sentences will be different, although intentions and acts in this (imaginative) case are similar.
Nobody was hurt, the next day it was business as usual. So give this kid a reasonable sentence for the damage done, and let him have a chance to see his error and learn from it. The lesson should be that he was lucky that this didn't turn into something really big. Next time his luck may change, and this experience may hold him back then. Send him to prison for seven years and he will come out as a wreck or as a professional criminal. Who wants that?
Decent people don't want to be associated with people like MikeeUSA, the fact that the anti-systemd people seem happy to associate with him isn't going to help their cause.
What about this one: "decent people don't want to be associated with people like Hitler, the fact that the vegetarian people seem happy to associate with him isn't going to help their cause."
See what I did there? (no, that doesn't qualify as Godwin, not yet)
I'm one of these anti-systemd people, and I don't want to be associated in anyway with a troll like MikeeUSA. He's behavior has nothing to do with accepting or not systemd and trying to make some kind of true-scotman-non-sequitur-bullshit out of it is utter non-sense.
Wikipedia about Godwin:
Godwin's Law is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" — that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
This is a perfect example - even if it is not a troll, even if it's meant to tell us that this is not a Godwin, even if meant as a serious answer.
How many people would think to first check the Red Cross website first
To be honest, I would have expected the Red Cross to have more important things to do and I wouldn't want to bother them.
Then again, I would have thought people in a disaster would have more important things to do than to go on Facebook.
The Red Cross is a big organisation. They probably have their own IT department, which is located somewhere in Europe or the US, or maybe even in India, but not on the location of the disaster. IT is essential to an organization like the RC, for themselves, but also for victims.
One essential part of recovery from a disaster is stress release. If you know what happened to your family, that saves you from a lot of stress, the stress of uncertainty, even in the case that they are dead. If they are alive, you can contact them, and that helps them recover more easily. Social contact is essential.
Facebook and Google could put a link to the RC website on top of their page for all people who login from Nepal, but better they should use their own site and create an API to the RC database, and sync data.
Typical Policeman wants other people to do all the work to prevent crime and wants rid of anything that can be possibly used for crime.
Except of course that he and his brothers may use it any way they like it.
"The government" isn't one big entity. There are a lot of agencies in it and some have very conflicting goals. Even in the NSA itself some will be working on securing everything more so that their government is safe from spying while others will be working on breaking everything more, so that other governments can be spied on.
And isn't this just really a grant? Its not like darpa controls the implementation, they just point out what they want to be worked on, no?
I suppose the code is open source, and I guess that code will be closely monitored. If they really want secure code, to secure agents abroad or even locally to make sure they cannot be tracked down, this is a good thing for everybody.
My proposal: the Annual White House Fence Run. Then some hide and seek, and whoever doesn't get caught gets to play President for one day.
you don't have to like the USA, but if you look at the leadership of the USA, and you look at the leadership of ISIS, and you see the same kind of people, you aren't announcing an understanding of the world, you are merely announcing that you have a horribly stunted social defect, and no grasp on moral reasoning
the usa has done horrible horrible things in the world. but to examine their motivations, actions, targets, etc., and see the same as ISIS on those measures, you're a moron on this topic. there's no other nicer way to say it. and it's not a baseless insult to call you that. it's an objective appraisal of the quality of the words you have written and the topic at hand. you're a socially stunted individual who should stop talking about a topic you lack the social abilities to understand
The USA just has a better track record at covering up. Look at who supported and designed the terror in Chili and Argentina in the 60s and 70s: CIA, with the helping hand of Ford Motor Company and Chicago University. Of course, the CIA didn't do any torture or killing, they just advised and gave support. Ford supplied cars and "students". Look at how Iraq is destroyed by US presence.
Now the CIA blame Iran for destroying Iraq - how ironic! Wasn't it the CIA who helped the Shah take power in a country that was on its way to a very reasonable democracy? If the US had kept out of Iran and Iraq, and hadn't helped Israel abuse its power in Palestine, I doubt if ISIS would have existed.
What ISIS does is horrific, but it's completely comparable to all terror done in South America by Pinochet and by the military in Brasil and Argentina.
we're back to the days of cherry picking the most expensive not apple vendors and using those to justify apple's prices. There's more to the android market than samsung and HTC, and they're losing marketshare to other smaller players that are allowed to exist in the android model unlike apple's ecosystem.
My next phone will absolutely not be one of these overpriced locked down messes.
Well at least he named examples, you just made claims so who are those smaller vendors who offer smartphones that have the same performance and are qualitatively comparable to the HCT and Samsung flagship smartphones, but at significantly lower prices?
He didn't make the claim that those cheaper devices were comparable in performance. I'm with him. My Sony Z1 is good enough for me, and for half the price. Paying $900 for a phone that will last for two years - not for me!
The budget deficit in the US is also unsustainable in the long run. You guys must enjoy being able to "print" the reserve currency while it lasts.
Keeping the budget deficit high and preferably making it bigger is key to neoliberal politics. The higher the deficit, the less money is available for all those leftist / socialist / communist hobbies like healthcare plans, unemployment benefits etc. Obama has done his fair deal to repair things, like his healthcare plan, but the problems that Bush has created in eight years cannot be undone in eight years. That will take much longer.
Yeah but that's the problem. You get a "movie" file that's actually a .exe with a VLC icon or whatever. Not that I've ever downloaded a movie...
Well if that VLC icon isn't a sign that something is wrong, then I don't know what will ever stop you!
I've used GPG since... I don't even know, for a very long time. However, since I communicate a lot internationally, and I don't know (and I don't want to know) about every country's regulations regarding encryption, I gave up sending encrypted e-mails at the very beginning, but I still always sign my mails. I never even thought about how many people use or don't use GPG, it's just been there, ever so useful - and I think that's good so. I think "run its course" is harsh though. Why? Because one Moxie Marlinspike says so? Bollocks. If it's useful - and it is -, it's good to have it.
Not only that, but look at the Enigmail interface. Once it's installed and configured, it's only clicking the icons in the status bar and entering a password. I sign all mail as well.
I know quite a few people who have started using GPG via the Enigmail plug-in for Thunderbird lately. The length of the man page is irrelevant and they never publish their keys so are effectively invisible to the statistics. That doesn't mean that it isn't an extremely useful, valuable piece of software though.
I use Thunderbird with Enigmail, mostly to sign my emails to get other people used to seeing signed mails, with an attachment with the signature in it. I've got one question about this, a friend asking what that mysterious attachment was and I explained it. I created an IMAP mail account that I only use to make notes that I can easily share among different computers. All these notes are encrypted using my public key. I can open them on the computer which has my private key.
Your comment about being invisible to statistics does not mean being invisible to NSA and GCHQ. As they and several other agencies scan all mail, they will see these attachments, they will see mail headers and other signs that mail being encrypted, whatever method you use. So they will know that your friends use GPG.
This is good, or bad, depending on the tightness of your tin foil, but I think it reveals something far more important about encryption: we, the average users, are powerless to verify or truly trust any encryption solution offered. To realize that an audit of the code for a single-purpose program can only be done by a very small set of people shows that even with open source we're still just trusting others to safeguard our data. The need for encryption and the mathematical and coding complexity required to understand what we are using to safeguard our data is simply beyond our ability to check that it even makes sense at a basic level.
We - even IT power users and programmers - are mostly powerless to verify not only encryption programs, but the underlying OS as well. As Shutterworth said, if you use our OS, you have to trust us, because we have root .
And who would that be? I can only think of North Korea, who are worse than Cuba...
Well how about Iraq, Chili, Iran, Saudi Arabia. I bet all of them have done much more bad stuff in the past, or at least comparable. And North Korea is not an ally!
FALSE!!! The answer is not encryption because they will simply ban encryption. The TRUE answer is YOU engaging in direct POLITICAL action to bring the laws and candidates YOU want into place. Then you can encrypt all you want forever. You can even outlaw wiretaps.
The answer is not political action with candidates, because the people *don't care*.
The answer is getting people to care.
That means schools and media campaigns, and exposing abuses of the system.
Spot on! But who is going to pay for those campaigns?
It describes there are three kind of eaters. One of them is emotional eaters. Using food as a stress release is not a good idea.
Well that's exactly what I mean: emotional eating! I didn't say it goes without problems.
Swedish said the breach is extensive: the vulnerable data included "names, birthdays, medical IDs/social security numbers, street addresses, email addresses and employment information, including income data," though "no credit card or medical information, such as claims, test results or diagnostic codes were targeted or compromised."
Security was breached, personal information was stolen, but no CC or medical information. Can they tell us what prevented the theft of medical information? How can that information be used to prevent the future theft of data with other companies? Using the same methods, could it protect things like employment info and income data? Can systems be designed to be more bullet proof?
My first guess is that the medical information was on different servers, maybe at different locations, and access to those systems was not that easy. Given the fact that systems will be broken into, how can you design these big information systems in such a way that only a limited amount of data can be stolen?
No, the other function of eating is NOT stress release. Some people (even cultures) use food this way but it is no a function of eating.
Great! So tell me then, what is the other function according to you? Btw, I don't say that nature intended eating to result in stress release, but it does function that way. It's just one of those things that evolve as a side effect of other functions.
can't tell, they're written in perl
Wait - they were written in Perl?
Changing your daily habits permanently is the way to go. I always overhear conversations saying someone lost weight and it came back right away. Well sure, they fell back into their old habits!
Isn't a habit permanent? But anyways, temporary changes won't help and probably will harm you more than do good. Think of the yoyo effect.
Science actually figured it out about 100 years ago: it doesn't matter much what you eat because unless you embark on a weird diet you will get all the nutrients you need; and the way to maintain weight is to eat the right _amount_ of food. People worry about third order effects and ignore the first order principles. It's not "science's" fault that people don't want to bother learning what's already known about how things work.
The problem is that eating has one major other function besides nutricion: stress release. And then another power kicks in: positive reinforcement. Eating makes us feel less bad (less stress) and thus makes us feel good or at least better. There are some very tricky mechanisms that work to keep us in this trap. Once you start to eat more to feel better, it will be very difficult to undo that habit. And it's all about habits. If you start running daily, and you feel good about it, it's positive reinforcement once again, and it may compensate. Changing your daily habits is the way to go.
Then switch from Java or Python to Groovy. It's got a REPL tool like Python and Ruby, compiles to Java bytecode with tight Java interop and usually looks more like Ruby or Python than most people's Java code. That and it's a substantially more marketable language than any dialect of BASIC.
Better learn them the basics in a programming language that will be around for the next 10-20 years. Python will, but Groovy? Never heard of it, or heard of it and forgot about it. I wouldn't recommend it. It will learn some people skills that are useful for simple tasks, on any platform. Some of them will move on to other languages, and for those people it doesn't matter if it's groovy or python. But for those who learn only one language - this one - it will matter.
So by their own standards, the US had used an act of war against a foreign nation. Will they be attacking themselves, seeing as they're the world's police?
Who cares. They can't convict them for those A-bomb tests thanks to Putin, with Guantanamo they can't complain about Camp 14 or 18, and the link to Saddam Hussein is a dead end. Now they can bring in the corporate lawyers - much more effective!
Now, if Firefox could finally render TeXt, we could get off of HTML altogether.
There! FTFY! You need a good spellchecker and you're done! ;-)