Nothing is more satisfying talking to a creationist who uses scientific studies and fact to back his case(silt levels, etc). All you have to do is point out that they can't use science to back their argument because they say that science is wrong and all we should rely upon is the bible.
"science is wrong"? I've never heard that one. I've heard "most mainstream scientists are wrong", which does not mean the same thing at all.
It's just that I think a belief in science is more logical.
My logic: if I'm wrong, and there is no God, we both disappear. We both lose.
If I'm right, I'm going to heaven, and you're going to hell. You lose and I win.
As long as faith doesn't interfere with your science (and it doesn't have to), you lose nothing by having faith in something. To me, having faith in absolutely nothing (i.e. atheism) seems foolhardy.
Sure, if there's already life all around it, life will flock to water. But if there's no life on a planet, Water won't necessarily make it appear, just make it more likely.
Do you honestly expect every single thing God created to be written down? And Sirius begat M-551, and M-551 begat Polaris, and....
Someone's going to say "Life elsewhere would be pretty important."
Sure, to you. Probably not so interesting to most people living 4000+ years ago, who would have been quite shocked to discover that there was more than one continent, or that the world was round.
The next find I expect is simple life living on Mars.
Water != life
How can any religion survive that revelation?
I don't recall the Bible saying that there was no life anywhere but Earth. I've always believed it was possible that simple life could exist elsewhere. Intelligent life would throw religion a curve, though... I haven't thought as much about that.
Depends on the price of course... but up to maybe $100, I'd definitely be interested in one of these.
*guards our preccciouss....*
maybe now I can get a drink in the cafeteria without keeping my head aimed at my laptop...
The "life" of most portable devices is determined by how long the battery lasts. Apple just stated it the other way around... still means the same thing.
Yes! I bought a Dell, took it apart, used the video card for an experiment involving high-voltage currents, wore the RAM as a keychain for a week. Can you believe they wouldn't accept a refund?
note: I'm replying to the parent, not the article, don't try to compare my post to the article.
No.
So far, I've had several problems with my Powerbook. First, I dropped it, causing the bottom part of the case to warp; they fixed it in the Apple store in 20 minutes even though it was pretty obvious it was not a manufacturing problem. Second, I dropped it again, (yes I know, I'm a klutz) this time bending the power adapter, making it difficult to get it to stay in the machine. Again, 20 minutes at the Apple store, and I had not only a new power adapter, but also an extension for it (for those who don't know, this usually involves buying a new $80 power adapter to get) just by asking "Hey, you think I could have an extension?". Again, this was pretty obviously my fault.
I can't speak for their phone support, but their in-store support is among the best I've ever seen.
Worse, IMHO, is that there is no way to get Apple to send you a machine in the interim while yours is getting fixed.
Customer: "My Powerbook is broken."
Apple: "OK, here's an iBook you can use while we fix it. Now send in your powerbook."
*6 weeks later*
Customer: "Whoops, forgot to send in the powerbook!"
*6 months later*
Customer: "Whoops, forgot to send in the powerbook!"
Oh yes. Brilliant business plan.
So I have to have a backup machine just for that eventuality.
Get a friend to loan you a machine.
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Just because you're controlling something with your mind doesn't mean it will be "think something, and a machine makes it come true." Think of it more as a mental mouse and keyboard - instead of using your hands to control a computer, it would be your thoughts.
However, typing in to a computer "make me a sandwich" won't make my computer contact a sandwich-making robot over the intarweb and order a sandwich. You'll still have to issue the commands like you would now.
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What's WKRP? :P
If their argument is about faith
There's no such thing as an argument about faith, really... which is why this thread is dead right...about....now.
The costs of shipping a battery to NASA from Mars would not be covered under warranty.
Nothing is more satisfying talking to a creationist who uses scientific studies and fact to back his case(silt levels, etc). All you have to do is point out that they can't use science to back their argument because they say that science is wrong and all we should rely upon is the bible.
"science is wrong"? I've never heard that one. I've heard "most mainstream scientists are wrong", which does not mean the same thing at all.
It's just that I think a belief in science is more logical.
My logic: if I'm wrong, and there is no God, we both disappear. We both lose.
If I'm right, I'm going to heaven, and you're going to hell. You lose and I win.
As long as faith doesn't interfere with your science (and it doesn't have to), you lose nothing by having faith in something. To me, having faith in absolutely nothing (i.e. atheism) seems foolhardy.
Not as much as I'd like to, no... :)
Sure, if there's already life all around it, life will flock to water. But if there's no life on a planet, Water won't necessarily make it appear, just make it more likely.
Maybe I'm just an idiot...
You left yourself wide open on that one...
Do you honestly expect every single thing God created to be written down?
And Sirius begat M-551, and M-551 begat Polaris, and....
Someone's going to say "Life elsewhere would be pretty important."
Sure, to you. Probably not so interesting to most people living 4000+ years ago, who would have been quite shocked to discover that there was more than one continent, or that the world was round.
The next find I expect is simple life living on Mars.
Water != life
How can any religion survive that revelation?
I don't recall the Bible saying that there was no life anywhere but Earth. I've always believed it was possible that simple life could exist elsewhere. Intelligent life would throw religion a curve, though... I haven't thought as much about that.
Umm... why are the PNG's dimensions 962x716 but the picture is only like a tenth of that?
Depends on the price of course... but up to maybe $100, I'd definitely be interested in one of these.
*guards our preccciouss....*
maybe now I can get a drink in the cafeteria without keeping my head aimed at my laptop...
The "life" of most portable devices is determined by how long the battery lasts. Apple just stated it the other way around... still means the same thing.
Yes! I bought a Dell, took it apart, used the video card for an experiment involving high-voltage currents, wore the RAM as a keychain for a week. Can you believe they wouldn't accept a refund?
note: I'm replying to the parent, not the article, don't try to compare my post to the article.
Apple has horrible customer support - accept it
No.
So far, I've had several problems with my Powerbook. First, I dropped it, causing the bottom part of the case to warp; they fixed it in the Apple store in 20 minutes even though it was pretty obvious it was not a manufacturing problem. Second, I dropped it again, (yes I know, I'm a klutz) this time bending the power adapter, making it difficult to get it to stay in the machine. Again, 20 minutes at the Apple store, and I had not only a new power adapter, but also an extension for it (for those who don't know, this usually involves buying a new $80 power adapter to get) just by asking "Hey, you think I could have an extension?". Again, this was pretty obviously my fault.
I can't speak for their phone support, but their in-store support is among the best I've ever seen.
Worse, IMHO, is that there is no way to get Apple to send you a machine in the interim while yours is getting fixed.
Customer: "My Powerbook is broken."
Apple: "OK, here's an iBook you can use while we fix it. Now send in your powerbook."
*6 weeks later*
Customer: "Whoops, forgot to send in the powerbook!"
*6 months later*
Customer: "Whoops, forgot to send in the powerbook!"
Oh yes. Brilliant business plan.
So I have to have a backup machine just for that eventuality.
Get a friend to loan you a machine.
Just because you're controlling something with your mind doesn't mean it will be "think something, and a machine makes it come true." Think of it more as a mental mouse and keyboard - instead of using your hands to control a computer, it would be your thoughts.
However, typing in to a computer "make me a sandwich" won't make my computer contact a sandwich-making robot over the intarweb and order a sandwich. You'll still have to issue the commands like you would now.
You can add limbs? o_O
*cue "third leg" jokes*
Only if the Windows logo has sunglasses.
As is a "glitch in the [Windows]". :)
nothing that ever went up against the mighty Windows Logo ever won. Just ask Netscape.
I'll see your Netscape, and raise you a Mozilla and a Playstation2.
Why do I get the feeling that the lead programmer on this project is called Neo?
What's wrong with "The Architect"?
Gives new meaning to "a glitch in the matrix", doesn't it?
*crickets*
sorry.
It WILL boot up, but the boot-up sequence will be 150 copies of Clippy fighting the Windows logo.
Pretty much, yeah.
Would you want your parts to be smashed and have your quarks examined? I think not!
Because he had to have it now. duh. In a month we'll have seen mini autopsies all over the place.