Pointing out that religious objections to stem cell research, higher education, and a general attitude of anti-intellectualism is not bigotry. It's fact.
No, it's broad and bigoted generalization. Same as saying all atheists are amoral sociopaths that want an authoritarian dictatorship. There are no groups without bad people in them.
To be honest he is right tho - having moral and ethical standards and a conscience has screwed us in many sciences (remember embryonic stem cell science, sex education).
FTFY
Science without a moral framework and ethical standards gets you Dr. Mengele's, the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male", etc etc etc.
Not all is up for sacrifice at the altar of Science!(TM).
You mean China is ahead of us in medical research?
I guess that's par for the course since we live in a country controlled by anti-science Bible thumping morons.
Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with researchers in China not having any inconvenient laws and regulations against doing medical testing on prisoners, criminals, requiring years of testing before human trials would be allowed, etc etc.
It's nice though that you got to air your religious bigotry in the public square, and so brave doing it as AC, too.
Better police training won't fix the badlaws and the kangaroo courts.
By the same token, fixing "badlaws" and kangaroo courts won't necessarily fix policing. Besides, one does not preclude the other. There's no reason both can't be tackled simultaneously.
Gotta start somewhere. Starting where the government force meets the people is a pretty good place to start.in my opinion, if the goal is to improve relations and reduce crime and violence (both by criminals and bad cops) in our neighborhoods.
Don't use Facebook, Twitter etc and your Information attack surface gets a whole lot smaller.
Not as much as you might think. FB, Twitter, Google, etc have their little snooping presence on a huge number of sites across the internet. They have such a dense web presence that even if you block all their domains, they can still uniquely track you through timing and other methods not requiring any connection to or data transferred to or from the target. Make no mistake, these guys rival (and probably surpass in some areas) TLAs in the sophistication of their tracking methods. It's their bread & butter, after all, and they have a LOT of capital and manpower to throw at improving it.
There's a distinct danger here, as a previous/. article earlier quoted a FB guy talking about molding and shaping public opinion. With the advent of AI on our doorstep, this could be very, very frightening. FB, Twitter, Google, and possibly other social media will literally know you and what you think better than you do and be able to predict your actions and reactions quite accurately to any particular stimulus or information, and that opens the door to insanely powerful tools of mass manipulation.
We'd better get a handle on this now, or it will have a handle on us!
Jokes on them, I hooked up mine to listen to YouTube videos all day long.
If you want to *really* tie Amazon's Echo algorithms into a Gordian knot, let it listen to an endless loop of soundbites from Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, and Maxine Waters.
"Meltdown" will take on yet another new meaning in the modern world!
My point you quoted there does not require any "vast conspiracy". Nice strawman though, and you slayed it so well!
There are simply a number of opponents to nuclear power in the US and abroad ranging from various ecological groups, political/ideological groups, groups of investors in competing industries, and hostile foreign states that don't want the US having cheap, low-pollution, and plentiful energy as that helps drive a robust economy that can afford a large, modern military.
Even including waste handling, treatment, and storage, and decommissioning?
There's more waste. If modern designs that reused 'waste' as fuel were allowed to be built there would be no highly radioactive waste to deal with. But that would largely remove a divisive issue that generates a lot of political donations and gets the low-info types all fired up and marching in protest. The "anti-proliferation" reasons are kinda moot when we've effectively given Iran and N. Korea permission to go nuclear and even given Iran pallets of money to help them along to a nuclear ICBM capability.
Is that why we wasted 20 billion on two nuclear plants
No, much of that $20 billion was wasted on fighting anti-nuke protesters, eco-nutter lawsuits, over-regulation, NIMBYism, fossil-fuel lobbyists and their pet politicos, and general irrational fears that the anti-nuke people have incubated for decades using mis- and dis-information and outright lies.
There are many forces, both domestic and foreign, who do not want the US to have cheap, safe, and reliable nuclear power, and who have been working for decades to make nuclear power plants as expensive and difficult as possible to build and maintain.
If more than a double digit number of people voted for Trump/Congress as single-issue overturn NN voters I would be shocked.
Almost. If you worded it "...single-issue (to) overturn over-regulation (of which NN is part)" you would be correct. Many voters voted on the basis of government over-regulation.
Too bad that neither side was competing for popular votes and that popular votes don't and never have elected a US POTUS.
and many States are so gerrymandered
That *is* a problem, but it is a bipartisan problem as both sides are equally guilty. New Orleans, LA has been ridiculously gerrymandered by Democrats for decades. Same with Chicago and Detroit.
It's funny how all these problems aren't germane when Democrats are the winners/majority, but suddenly become a crisis when Republicans win/become the majority.
what a fucked up president you have elected lol. Attornies have to defend the democracy against him lol. Well at least your democracy works lol...
Actually, Americans elected Trump and elected majorities in both Houses of Congress orecisely to undo things like Title-II NN.
These State AGs are fighting to overturn the will of the majority of voters.
Which means there will be an even better chance that Trump gets elected to a second term and that the Dems almost vanish from both Houses of Congress altogether. If you want to see permanent overwhelming (R) majorities in Congress, keep trying to overrule the will of the majority. You will pay the price at the voting booths.
Trump being elected is pretty much unarguable proof that at least some humans are getting more stupid.
Totally agree.
How stupid does one have to be to run probably the *only* candidate that was worse than Trump against him? Hell, the Dems could have chosen almost anyone else and beat Trump easily.
We could be discussing President Sanders instead of Trump if the Clintons and DNC leadership didn't engage in election fraud in the primaries.
Want to know who to blame for Trump becoming POTUS?
Blame the Clintons and DNC leadership. THEY are the most responsible for Trump's victory, not the RNC. Hell, the RNC hates Trump almost as much as the Dems do!
It was an NSA guy who illegally took stuff home. Since "no intent" is currently a defense in the just-us system, no one wants to talk about it or prosecute the guy.
I believe they won't prosecute this guy because it will bring to light the fact that the leaks didn't occur through him and that this is another REEEE!!! Russia!!! REEEE!!! propaganda story.
...What I want to know are the names of the people responsible for running a foreign COTS A/V on 'net-connected PCs and placing Classified/Top Secret data on those computers and what legal actions/charges are pending against them, and if no legal actions/charges are pending and/or they refuse to identify who they are, why not.
*THOSE* are the questions we should be asking very, very loudly and demanding and the people who should be spending time at Club Fed. Given that level of cavalier handling of such highly-classified and top-secret data, Kaspersky/Putin/FSB et al were likely the very LAST bad-actors to get the data.
How about we figure out how to plug the hole in the lifeboat first before we start holding hearings on where to place the blame?
But to be fair, neither substance is valuable in space, unless you are engaged in some sort of automated manufacturing which requires gold or water
Wrong, as water == fuel for rockets/thrusters, shielding against radiation & micrometeorites and more. That's not even considering providing oxygen and drinking water to any humans.
What Heinlein didn't predict (and perhaps could not have done so) was the advancement in robotics that ruled the presence of humans on the moon already obsolete.
Robots can "do things" usually much better than humans. What they cannot do is *experience* things for humans.
Besides, at some point in the future humans will have to colonize places off of the Earth. Robots will be helpful in preparing such places.
Authoritarian nations generally seem to exploit those prisoners for their labour, rather than stick them somewhere where their labour would have not value.
Apparently you have not read the story. The entire point of the penal colony was to grow rice and ship it to a starving, overpopulated Earth using a system of giant electromagnetic rail guns to shoot containers into the ocean. (which later in the story they turn into a strategic weapon)
If you cause energy prices to rise high enough, you'll eventually accomplish the same thing, but leave the ability for the rich, famous, and powerful to still afford all the energy for A/C & heating they'll ever need, as they can easily afford even exorbitantly-high rates that the proles could only dream of.
Knowing CA politicians, after energy rates "skyrocket" (where do I remember hearing that term used in relation to national energy policy?) they'll probably then levy a "public sauna" tax on those without the means to afford A/C in the summer in the hotter portions of the State.
On a side note, I think there may be something seriously wrong with at least the Atlantic & Pacific Oceans. They seem to be causing a curious form of cultural degeneration or rot, and it's slowly creeping inland from both coasts. Could it be a Russian plot? There's no evidence to disprove it. I would propose sinking about a 20-mile-wide strip of coast, on both the East and West Coasts, into the seas. It must be done without warning, however, otherwise the rot could spread and metastasize elsewhere before it can be amputated.
In space and/or on an airless rock, water is far more valuable than gold.
This lunar ice deep in lava tubes on the moon was predicted back in 1966 in the science fiction novel "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" by Robert A. Heinlein.
Of course in Heinlein's story, the Moon was a penal colony. Considering the authoritarian direction most nations seem to be drifting towards, maybe this is another Heinlein "prediction" that will come to pass.
"This Court sentences you to life in the Alcatraz-II lunar penal colony."
Net Neutrality is NOT anti business, it is PRO business and PRO consumer.
What it does is shift much of the massive costs for bandwidth for companies like Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google, etc onto other ISP customers like you and me by raising their prices, since they cannot charge those high-bandwidth users at different rates than other ISP customers.
What, you don't think the ISPs are just going to eat the costs, do you? The original NN rules were written by Google! Do you believe Google primarily has your best interests in mind, or their own?
As to TFS/TFA, this is just State politicians grand-standing and posturing like posers do. State law does not override Federal laws and Federal regulations with the force of Federal law. They know this. It's theater.
Just to be clear, this is 100% speculation, and is probably mostly incorrect.
That's curious, because that's how an informed person would describe the legal attacks against Assange since Wikileaks dared publish evidence that the US Government routinely, knowingly, and blatantly violates the US Constitution, their Oaths of Office, the civil rights of it's own citizens while literally stopping and robbing them at gunpoint of any substantial money or property they may happen to have legally acquired and own in their possession as they travel our roads like the "highwaymen" of old..
It's almost like the Mafia didn't die, they just moved house. It's not strictly a (D) or (R) problem, it's both.
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Pointing out that religious objections to stem cell research, higher education, and a general attitude of anti-intellectualism is not bigotry. It's fact.
No, it's broad and bigoted generalization. Same as saying all atheists are amoral sociopaths that want an authoritarian dictatorship. There are no groups without bad people in them.
Strat
To be honest he is right tho - having moral and ethical standards and a conscience has screwed us in many sciences (remember embryonic stem cell science, sex education).
FTFY
Science without a moral framework and ethical standards gets you Dr. Mengele's, the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male", etc etc etc.
Not all is up for sacrifice at the altar of Science!(TM).
Strat
You mean China is ahead of us in medical research?
I guess that's par for the course since we live in a country controlled by anti-science Bible thumping morons.
Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with researchers in China not having any inconvenient laws and regulations against doing medical testing on prisoners, criminals, requiring years of testing before human trials would be allowed, etc etc.
It's nice though that you got to air your religious bigotry in the public square, and so brave doing it as AC, too.
Strat
Better police training won't fix the badlaws and the kangaroo courts.
By the same token, fixing "badlaws" and kangaroo courts won't necessarily fix policing. Besides, one does not preclude the other. There's no reason both can't be tackled simultaneously.
Gotta start somewhere. Starting where the government force meets the people is a pretty good place to start.in my opinion, if the goal is to improve relations and reduce crime and violence (both by criminals and bad cops) in our neighborhoods.
Strat
Don't use Facebook, Twitter etc and your Information attack surface gets a whole lot smaller.
Not as much as you might think. FB, Twitter, Google, etc have their little snooping presence on a huge number of sites across the internet. They have such a dense web presence that even if you block all their domains, they can still uniquely track you through timing and other methods not requiring any connection to or data transferred to or from the target. Make no mistake, these guys rival (and probably surpass in some areas) TLAs in the sophistication of their tracking methods. It's their bread & butter, after all, and they have a LOT of capital and manpower to throw at improving it.
There's a distinct danger here, as a previous /. article earlier quoted a FB guy talking about molding and shaping public opinion. With the advent of AI on our doorstep, this could be very, very frightening. FB, Twitter, Google, and possibly other social media will literally know you and what you think better than you do and be able to predict your actions and reactions quite accurately to any particular stimulus or information, and that opens the door to insanely powerful tools of mass manipulation.
We'd better get a handle on this now, or it will have a handle on us!
Strat
Jokes on them, I hooked up mine to listen to YouTube videos all day long.
If you want to *really* tie Amazon's Echo algorithms into a Gordian knot, let it listen to an endless loop of soundbites from Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, and Maxine Waters.
"Meltdown" will take on yet another new meaning in the modern world!
Strat
Ah, believing in a vast conspiracy...
My point you quoted there does not require any "vast conspiracy". Nice strawman though, and you slayed it so well!
There are simply a number of opponents to nuclear power in the US and abroad ranging from various ecological groups, political/ideological groups, groups of investors in competing industries, and hostile foreign states that don't want the US having cheap, low-pollution, and plentiful energy as that helps drive a robust economy that can afford a large, modern military.
Strat
Even including waste handling, treatment, and storage, and decommissioning?
There's more waste. If modern designs that reused 'waste' as fuel were allowed to be built there would be no highly radioactive waste to deal with. But that would largely remove a divisive issue that generates a lot of political donations and gets the low-info types all fired up and marching in protest. The "anti-proliferation" reasons are kinda moot when we've effectively given Iran and N. Korea permission to go nuclear and even given Iran pallets of money to help them along to a nuclear ICBM capability.
Strat
How about you just try not to be a jackass in the future, ok?
{sarcasm}Thanks for making it easy by providing direct links to the unedited videos...{/sarcasm}
I wasn't the one who started out being a jackass, jackass.
Strat
Is that why we wasted 20 billion on two nuclear plants
No, much of that $20 billion was wasted on fighting anti-nuke protesters, eco-nutter lawsuits, over-regulation, NIMBYism, fossil-fuel lobbyists and their pet politicos, and general irrational fears that the anti-nuke people have incubated for decades using mis- and dis-information and outright lies.
There are many forces, both domestic and foreign, who do not want the US to have cheap, safe, and reliable nuclear power, and who have been working for decades to make nuclear power plants as expensive and difficult as possible to build and maintain.
Strat
If more than a double digit number of people voted for Trump/Congress as single-issue overturn NN voters I would be shocked.
Almost. If you worded it "...single-issue (to) overturn over-regulation (of which NN is part)" you would be correct. Many voters voted on the basis of government over-regulation.
Strat
Trump lost by 3 mil votes
Too bad that neither side was competing for popular votes and that popular votes don't and never have elected a US POTUS.
and many States are so gerrymandered
That *is* a problem, but it is a bipartisan problem as both sides are equally guilty. New Orleans, LA has been ridiculously gerrymandered by Democrats for decades. Same with Chicago and Detroit.
It's funny how all these problems aren't germane when Democrats are the winners/majority, but suddenly become a crisis when Republicans win/become the majority.
Strat
what a fucked up president you have elected lol. Attornies have to defend the democracy against him lol. Well at least your democracy works lol...
Actually, Americans elected Trump and elected majorities in both Houses of Congress orecisely to undo things like Title-II NN.
These State AGs are fighting to overturn the will of the majority of voters.
Which means there will be an even better chance that Trump gets elected to a second term and that the Dems almost vanish from both Houses of Congress altogether. If you want to see permanent overwhelming (R) majorities in Congress, keep trying to overrule the will of the majority. You will pay the price at the voting booths.
Strat
{sarcasm}Thanks for making it easy by providing direct links to the unedited videos...{/sarcasm}
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I'm sorry, I mistakenly assumed you knew what Google was and that you could spell "Project Veritas".
https://www.projectveritas.com...
https://www.projectveritas.com...
https://www.projectveritas.com...
My bad. I'll not assume that level of competence from you again.
Strat
It's the same scaremongering editing they used in their previous videos...
Since the full unedited videos were also posted, I'm sure you can point out precisely where and how they were "deceptively edited"....right?
[crickets]
Strat
Trump being elected is pretty much unarguable proof that at least some humans are getting more stupid.
Totally agree.
How stupid does one have to be to run probably the *only* candidate that was worse than Trump against him? Hell, the Dems could have chosen almost anyone else and beat Trump easily.
We could be discussing President Sanders instead of Trump if the Clintons and DNC leadership didn't engage in election fraud in the primaries.
Want to know who to blame for Trump becoming POTUS?
Blame the Clintons and DNC leadership. THEY are the most responsible for Trump's victory, not the RNC. Hell, the RNC hates Trump almost as much as the Dems do!
Strat
It was an NSA guy who illegally took stuff home. Since "no intent" is currently a defense in the just-us system, no one wants to talk about it or prosecute the guy.
I believe they won't prosecute this guy because it will bring to light the fact that the leaks didn't occur through him and that this is another REEEE!!! Russia!!! REEEE!!! propaganda story.
Strat
...What I want to know are the names of the people responsible for running a foreign COTS A/V on 'net-connected PCs and placing Classified/Top Secret data on those computers and what legal actions/charges are pending against them, and if no legal actions/charges are pending and/or they refuse to identify who they are, why not.
*THOSE* are the questions we should be asking very, very loudly and demanding and the people who should be spending time at Club Fed. Given that level of cavalier handling of such highly-classified and top-secret data, Kaspersky/Putin/FSB et al were likely the very LAST bad-actors to get the data.
How about we figure out how to plug the hole in the lifeboat first before we start holding hearings on where to place the blame?
Strat
But to be fair, neither substance is valuable in space, unless you are engaged in some sort of automated manufacturing which requires gold or water
Wrong, as water == fuel for rockets/thrusters, shielding against radiation & micrometeorites and more. That's not even considering providing oxygen and drinking water to any humans.
What Heinlein didn't predict (and perhaps could not have done so) was the advancement in robotics that ruled the presence of humans on the moon already obsolete.
Robots can "do things" usually much better than humans. What they cannot do is *experience* things for humans.
Besides, at some point in the future humans will have to colonize places off of the Earth. Robots will be helpful in preparing such places.
Authoritarian nations generally seem to exploit those prisoners for their labour, rather than stick them somewhere where their labour would have not value.
Apparently you have not read the story. The entire point of the penal colony was to grow rice and ship it to a starving, overpopulated Earth using a system of giant electromagnetic rail guns to shoot containers into the ocean. (which later in the story they turn into a strategic weapon)
Strat
California can just outlaw air conditioning.
If you cause energy prices to rise high enough, you'll eventually accomplish the same thing, but leave the ability for the rich, famous, and powerful to still afford all the energy for A/C & heating they'll ever need, as they can easily afford even exorbitantly-high rates that the proles could only dream of.
Knowing CA politicians, after energy rates "skyrocket" (where do I remember hearing that term used in relation to national energy policy?) they'll probably then levy a "public sauna" tax on those without the means to afford A/C in the summer in the hotter portions of the State.
On a side note, I think there may be something seriously wrong with at least the Atlantic & Pacific Oceans. They seem to be causing a curious form of cultural degeneration or rot, and it's slowly creeping inland from both coasts. Could it be a Russian plot? There's no evidence to disprove it. I would propose sinking about a 20-mile-wide strip of coast, on both the East and West Coasts, into the seas. It must be done without warning, however, otherwise the rot could spread and metastasize elsewhere before it can be amputated.
Strat
You can have my drone when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
[MiB 'Bug' or US Gov]
"Your proposal is acceptable."
[/MiB 'Bug' or US Gov]
Strat
Lunar ice-miner twenty-forty-niner!
In space and/or on an airless rock, water is far more valuable than gold.
This lunar ice deep in lava tubes on the moon was predicted back in 1966 in the science fiction novel "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" by Robert A. Heinlein.
Of course in Heinlein's story, the Moon was a penal colony. Considering the authoritarian direction most nations seem to be drifting towards, maybe this is another Heinlein "prediction" that will come to pass.
"This Court sentences you to life in the Alcatraz-II lunar penal colony."
Strat
Oops, dunno how that happened?
Yes, that's mine.
Net Neutrality is NOT anti business, it is PRO business and PRO consumer.
What it does is shift much of the massive costs for bandwidth for companies like Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google, etc onto other ISP customers like you and me by raising their prices, since they cannot charge those high-bandwidth users at different rates than other ISP customers.
What, you don't think the ISPs are just going to eat the costs, do you? The original NN rules were written by Google! Do you believe Google primarily has your best interests in mind, or their own?
As to TFS/TFA, this is just State politicians grand-standing and posturing like posers do. State law does not override Federal laws and Federal regulations with the force of Federal law. They know this. It's theater.
Strat
Just to be clear, this is 100% speculation, and is probably mostly incorrect.
That's curious, because that's how an informed person would describe the legal attacks against Assange since Wikileaks dared publish evidence that the US Government routinely, knowingly, and blatantly violates the US Constitution, their Oaths of Office, the civil rights of it's own citizens while literally stopping and robbing them at gunpoint of any substantial money or property they may happen to have legally acquired and own in their possession as they travel our roads like the "highwaymen" of old..
It's almost like the Mafia didn't die, they just moved house. It's not strictly a (D) or (R) problem, it's both.
Strat