Let's face it, there are so many forms of entertainment out there and only so many hours in a day. Couple that with work, the internet, video games, etc. All forms of entertainment are competing with each other for time that's increasingly not there.
"Britain and Japan both have amazingly good game makers"
I'd dispute that as of late, they have had a pretty good record but... certain companies make some good games but God of War and God of War for the PS2 were truly japan shattering games for me. You could tell GoW and GoW 2 were made by *gamers*.
On the PS2 I almost played *exlcusively* american games, with the exception of Final fantasy and xenosaga and both left a bad taste in my mouth. I loved Xenosaga's story but the gameplay just didn't hang together well.
Japan is really losing out in the *gameplay* department IMHO, they make good games, don't get me wrong, but I haven't seen anything as fresh as God of War in a long time... a game in which *all aspects* were crafted with *care*.
But then we'd have to re-analyze capitalism itself, an I don't think society is ready for *that* rich people would simply pay for organizations to falsify their data, it would be one sided.
We should already know how dangerous the natural nano-technology is (virus, bacteria, etc, etc), like we need to start releasing shit that automatically lives which we can't see into the system without really grasping it's implications.
I'm all for technology, but stuff you can't see that can get inside you and do serious damage without your knowledge and companies being questionable guardians of the public good, I don't see how companies should not be strictly observed by everyone, period.
""Oooo... let's use their video. They'll never catch on.."
Actually plagiarism is VERY widespread, just do a gogle search for images on "logos" search for a few months for an hour a day about different topics, and you'll be alarmed at all the plagiarism that even companies do. The fact is anything that looks good and has good symmetry or some highly valued thing or function WILL be plagiarized, lets not pretend that we are not mimics or theifs in that sense, we ALL do it, even unknowingly and it's IMPOSSIBLE not to be a plagiarizer, else you wouldn't be able to think if we took propertarian theology all the way to it's extremes.
Personally I really don't care about copyright infringement, especially considering this was posted because it would be a total slashdot flame fest and bring in the hits, I wish I had all the copyright infringed things the people who made that video did, then I'd show it along side, that they we're all hypocrites and it's impossible not to be one in some sense.
"What happens to a system when it is not observed is anyway philosophy, not physics."
Actually it's not, anything that exists as a part of an existence, is at least in some partial way (even if very small) physical. That's like saying "thoughts aren't a part of physics".
But thoughts are the *BASIS* of physics, since physics is general categorical label to describe a collective group of human thoughts and sytems of logic and mathematics, which have their entire basis in critical philosophical systems, the scientific method is a conglomeration of different systems of philosophy, under the category label "the scientific method".
"Hiding the extensions by default might make the interface seem less cluttered, but it definitely creates creates confusion when you have a file actually named safe.jpg.exe and you see safe.jpg."
Parties would just rename the files, even if MS did make icons that represented EXE's, as we all know all security can be hacked.
"Burn more calories than you consume over a period of time, and you will lose weight."
No doubt this is true, but how much does the nutrition content matter? for instance do we get most of what we need from bread and other staples? Could you live on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches?
My point was that the way the choices people have made have deterined the state of the world, even if they are not cognizant of that fact that they are the problem. i.e. support a company with your money, then the company will continue to exist as long as you continue to support it, to withdraw your support, is to stop paying the company, or legally disbanding if it is, in fact, a criminal element.
"... allowtrade unions. Don't allow child labor or 80 hour work weeks. If you can't play by those rules, you shouldn't be invited to the game."
Ahh yes but freedom means freedom to break the rules, and to do just anything... and that also means be crook. There is almost no distinction between a theif and a business man these days. Business practices can't be enforced because it would take probably upwards or close to half of the population monitoring the other half, or an orwellian society. We allow people to make their own choices, but... not all people are created equal, therefore not all minds, thoughts, and ideas, and their subsequent choices will be created equal either... and thus is the state of the world.
The fact is the culture of greed is nourished by the concept of money, it is in fact us who is doing it to ourselves, if resources are finite and limited, and they efficiencies only increase in bursts or jumps (i.e. taking a finite resource, and then being able to use less of it doing the same thing), then it follows that: We have done it to ourselves.. i.e. every time you invest in a company that is destroying the environment, you are in fact just as much responsible as the company for that effect. Companies don't exist without money, don't give them money and eventually they will go out of business.
The problem is of couse we no longer produce our own necessities, therefore we are indentured servants to one another. That may sound "luddite'ish" but it is the truth. If you don't own your own productive property and are dependent on someone else for basic necessities, then you are in a struggle for power with the person that provides you those necessities.
"As I alluded to before, if this were carefully designed it could have some interesting effects (e.g. a "light capacitor" that builds up a big pulse and then releases it all at once)."
Indeed actually, now that I think of it, this sounds similar *pulsing* to how the brain functions.
Actually yes, the Christian god makes a claim he cannot lie, if he falsifies that claim to have that attribute, then he doesn't exist. An unintelligible communication means an unintelligable definition, and anything that cannot be defined distinctly cannot exist. Therefore the existence of the "Christian god" is not intelligible.
Either way, a god that gets his facts wrong (i.e. creation in 7 days vs billions of years), cannot be a god, since a god would KNOW that the universe is old. His godhood is conditional upon him always being correct.
"I'll say. This God character has put together something pretty impressive in only a week, but it's all indecipherable spaghetti code."
Actually, if (hypothetically) a god exists, we all know it's not the christian god. If the universe is spaghetti code, (indistinguishable, not distinct, not equal to anything) then it can't exist. Even if the code is "bad" you cannot judge if the code is bad if you are inside the simulation because you don't have access to the code.
"I think bees (or ants) should get the all-time patent rights to clustering a number of not so intelligent nodes into something that exhibits a higher degree of intelligence."
Actually I think their "higher intelligence" isn't actually higher, I think it is combined by sheer "raw ability" of each individual bee to optimally find the correct path along a geometry. In my mind it's actually a function of little minds, navigating a geometric space optimally.
"Slashdot editors are even more pathetic than I thought they were."
The truth is when running a website you'll have way too many submissions versus the amount of people submitting and reading your website. It would be great if Slashdot had "moderated" random editors, like they do with discussion... If anyones listening, mod my post up!:)
Email is just one of many tools we use to communicate, email is not just "for old people", obviously these kids have very little experience with interacting with anyone but their own culture or within their own little world.
IM, facebook, email, etc... I expect to become more and more integrated over time, until it is a centralized unified communication center. All of them have their place until something comes along that will replace it.
I'm certain many people who are "subscribed" are inactive, the numbers don't tell us how active the subscribers are on an individual basis. I'm certain many wow players only play a little bit a month. My sister is one of them, she'll play a few days a month, the rest of the time she'll be out doing her thing. You have to understand that many wow players ONLY play wow and don't do much other gaming, so $15 a month is nothing.
Then there is the fact that people are continuously leaving and re-entering the game, you have new players come in as old players leave, plus old players temporarily starting again with expansions, etc. People are constantly being born, then you have emerging markets like china with enormous populations. So it's no surprise really.
"People with Ph.D's in mathematics aren't expected to understand the theory. People with Ph.D's in particle physics aren't expected to understand the theory.
Quite frankly, there's a serious audience of around one hundred people on the planet that can actually grasp what he's saying, and they seem to be divided about it and its ramifications."
"I am a big fan of reasoning. The problem is when reasoning becomes ones faith. All to often I have seen this line of reasoning. I am ruled by reason. Everything I believe is based on reason. So everyone that doesn't believe what I do is unreasonable or stupid.
It never crosses these peoples minds that they might have incomplete data, or that what they think of as a fact is really nothing more than opinion. As I have said before all too often I see people loose the ability to separate fact from their own opinion."
But your reasoning is based on egocentric modelling, if you were unable to detect ** unknowingly ** the bugs in your own neural hardware, no amount of reason would save you because it's a hardware problem. Even with your reasoning ability you do not know how your mind functions and where the gaps and bugs are in how it works, you have barely an inkling of how it actually works... else we would all be doctors and neurologists from birth and know everything about our bodies... we don't.
Hence you've proved their (the scientists) point that to use reason is really a struggle for a small minded species like ours.
It's because of the enlightenment fallacy, that the only way to truth is through reasoning.
It's somewhere buried in this conference, but they talk about how our belief in enlightenment way of thinking has been disproved largely by science, most people do not think in the "enightenment way".
There's an interesting webcast here that the newyork public library held on media, politics propaganda called Orwell comes to america...
I think slashdot-ians would have a lot to learn from specific segments of it. The webcast link is below.
Slashdot Mirror
... = Death
Let's face it, there are so many forms of entertainment out there and only so many hours in a day. Couple that with work, the internet, video games, etc. All forms of entertainment are competing with each other for time that's increasingly not there.
"Britain and Japan both have amazingly good game makers"
I'd dispute that as of late, they have had a pretty good record but... certain companies make some good games but God of War and God of War for the PS2 were truly japan shattering games for me. You could tell GoW and GoW 2 were made by *gamers*.
On the PS2 I almost played *exlcusively* american games, with the exception of Final fantasy and xenosaga and both left a bad taste in my mouth. I loved Xenosaga's story but the gameplay just didn't hang together well.
Japan is really losing out in the *gameplay* department IMHO, they make good games, don't get me wrong, but I haven't seen anything as fresh as God of War in a long time... a game in which *all aspects* were crafted with *care*.
"I really don't think it is someone messing around or that the wind theory is as unlikely as you think."
I think people should stop thinking of it as "wind" and start thinking of it *as an ocean of air* that has currents and waves like the *real ocean*.
But then we'd have to re-analyze capitalism itself, an I don't think society is ready for *that* rich people would simply pay for organizations to falsify their data, it would be one sided.
"as usual, technology is a double-edged blade."
I'm more worried about the *cutting corners* aspect of it, not so much the technology as the idiots business people.
We should already know how dangerous the natural nano-technology is (virus, bacteria, etc, etc), like we need to start releasing shit that automatically lives which we can't see into the system without really grasping it's implications.
I'm all for technology, but stuff you can't see that can get inside you and do serious damage without your knowledge and companies being questionable guardians of the public good, I don't see how companies should not be strictly observed by everyone, period.
""Oooo... let's use their video. They'll never catch on.."
Actually plagiarism is VERY widespread, just do a gogle search for images on "logos" search for a few months for an hour a day about different topics, and you'll be alarmed at all the plagiarism that even companies do. The fact is anything that looks good and has good symmetry or some highly valued thing or function WILL be plagiarized, lets not pretend that we are not mimics or theifs in that sense, we ALL do it, even unknowingly and it's IMPOSSIBLE not to be a plagiarizer, else you wouldn't be able to think if we took propertarian theology all the way to it's extremes.
Personally I really don't care about copyright infringement, especially considering this was posted because it would be a total slashdot flame fest and bring in the hits, I wish I had all the copyright infringed things the people who made that video did, then I'd show it along side, that they we're all hypocrites and it's impossible not to be one in some sense.
I think a semi-randomized mixed system might to the trick, but would it be any different from a total randomized system?
"What happens to a system when it is not observed is anyway philosophy, not physics."
Actually it's not, anything that exists as a part of an existence, is at least in some partial way (even if very small) physical. That's like saying "thoughts aren't a part of physics".
But thoughts are the *BASIS* of physics, since physics is general categorical label to describe a collective group of human thoughts and sytems of logic and mathematics, which have their entire basis in critical philosophical systems, the scientific method is a conglomeration of different systems of philosophy, under the category label "the scientific method".
"Hiding the extensions by default might make the interface seem less cluttered, but it definitely creates creates confusion when you have a file actually named safe.jpg.exe and you see safe.jpg."
Parties would just rename the files, even if MS did make icons that represented EXE's, as we all know all security can be hacked.
"Burn more calories than you consume over a period of time, and you will lose weight."
No doubt this is true, but how much does the nutrition content matter? for instance do we get most of what we need from bread and other staples? Could you live on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches?
My point was that the way the choices people have made have deterined the state of the world, even if they are not cognizant of that fact that they are the problem. i.e. support a company with your money, then the company will continue to exist as long as you continue to support it, to withdraw your support, is to stop paying the company, or legally disbanding if it is, in fact, a criminal element.
"... allowtrade unions. Don't allow child labor or 80 hour work weeks. If you can't play by those rules, you shouldn't be invited to the game."
Ahh yes but freedom means freedom to break the rules, and to do just anything... and that also means be crook. There is almost no distinction between a theif and a business man these days. Business practices can't be enforced because it would take probably upwards or close to half of the population monitoring the other half, or an orwellian society. We allow people to make their own choices, but... not all people are created equal, therefore not all minds, thoughts, and ideas, and their subsequent choices will be created equal either... and thus is the state of the world.
The fact is the culture of greed is nourished by the concept of money, it is in fact us who is doing it to ourselves, if resources are finite and limited, and they efficiencies only increase in bursts or jumps (i.e. taking a finite resource, and then being able to use less of it doing the same thing), then it follows that: We have done it to ourselves.. i.e. every time you invest in a company that is destroying the environment, you are in fact just as much responsible as the company for that effect. Companies don't exist without money, don't give them money and eventually they will go out of business.
The problem is of couse we no longer produce our own necessities, therefore we are indentured servants to one another. That may sound "luddite'ish" but it is the truth. If you don't own your own productive property and are dependent on someone else for basic necessities, then you are in a struggle for power with the person that provides you those necessities.
"As I alluded to before, if this were carefully designed it could have some interesting effects (e.g. a "light capacitor" that builds up a big pulse and then releases it all at once)."
Indeed actually, now that I think of it, this sounds similar *pulsing* to how the brain functions.
Actually yes, the Christian god makes a claim he cannot lie, if he falsifies that claim to have that attribute, then he doesn't exist. An unintelligible communication means an unintelligable definition, and anything that cannot be defined distinctly cannot exist. Therefore the existence of the "Christian god" is not intelligible.
Either way, a god that gets his facts wrong (i.e. creation in 7 days vs billions of years), cannot be a god, since a god would KNOW that the universe is old. His godhood is conditional upon him always being correct.
"I'll say. This God character has put together something pretty impressive in only a week, but it's all indecipherable spaghetti code."
Actually, if (hypothetically) a god exists, we all know it's not the christian god. If the universe is spaghetti code, (indistinguishable, not distinct, not equal to anything) then it can't exist. Even if the code is "bad" you cannot judge if the code is bad if you are inside the simulation because you don't have access to the code.
"I think bees (or ants) should get the all-time patent rights to clustering a number of not so intelligent nodes into something that exhibits a higher degree of intelligence."
Actually I think their "higher intelligence" isn't actually higher, I think it is combined by sheer "raw ability" of each individual bee to optimally find the correct path along a geometry. In my mind it's actually a function of little minds, navigating a geometric space optimally.
"Slashdot editors are even more pathetic than I thought they were."
:)
The truth is when running a website you'll have way too many submissions versus the amount of people submitting and reading your website. It would be great if Slashdot had "moderated" random editors, like they do with discussion... If anyones listening, mod my post up!
Email is just one of many tools we use to communicate, email is not just "for old people", obviously these kids have very little experience with interacting with anyone but their own culture or within their own little world.
IM, facebook, email, etc... I expect to become more and more integrated over time, until it is a centralized unified communication center. All of them have their place until something comes along that will replace it.
It's a damn shame to see a well run business get fucked over by the dickhead kinds of capitalists....
In capitalist barberica, profit gives way to mediocrity!
"Who are these people."
I'm certain many people who are "subscribed" are inactive, the numbers don't tell us how active the subscribers are on an individual basis. I'm certain many wow players only play a little bit a month. My sister is one of them, she'll play a few days a month, the rest of the time she'll be out doing her thing. You have to understand that many wow players ONLY play wow and don't do much other gaming, so $15 a month is nothing.
Then there is the fact that people are continuously leaving and re-entering the game, you have new players come in as old players leave, plus old players temporarily starting again with expansions, etc. People are constantly being born, then you have emerging markets like china with enormous populations. So it's no surprise really.
... for causing rapid changes in markets thereby increasing the amount of education I need, thereby increasing college tuition.
All is fair in love and war.
"People with Ph.D's in mathematics aren't expected to understand the theory. People with Ph.D's in particle physics aren't expected to understand the theory.
:)
Quite frankly, there's a serious audience of around one hundred people on the planet that can actually grasp what he's saying, and they seem to be divided about it and its ramifications."
But what about People with both?
"I am a big fan of reasoning. The problem is when reasoning becomes ones faith. All to often I have seen this line of reasoning.
I am ruled by reason.
Everything I believe is based on reason.
So everyone that doesn't believe what I do is unreasonable or stupid.
It never crosses these peoples minds that they might have incomplete data, or that what they think of as a fact is really nothing more than opinion. As I have said before all too often I see people loose the ability to separate fact from their own opinion."
But your reasoning is based on egocentric modelling, if you were unable to detect ** unknowingly ** the bugs in your own neural hardware, no amount of reason would save you because it's a hardware problem. Even with your reasoning ability you do not know how your mind functions and where the gaps and bugs are in how it works, you have barely an inkling of how it actually works... else we would all be doctors and neurologists from birth and know everything about our bodies... we don't.
Hence you've proved their (the scientists) point that to use reason is really a struggle for a small minded species like ours.
It's because of the enlightenment fallacy, that the only way to truth is through reasoning.
It's somewhere buried in this conference, but they talk about how our belief in enlightenment way of thinking has been disproved largely by science, most people do not think in the "enightenment way".
There's an interesting webcast here that the newyork public library held on media, politics propaganda called Orwell comes to america...
I think slashdot-ians would have a lot to learn from specific segments of it. The webcast link is below.
http://www.mapdigital.com/orwell/welcome.html