If not, and as long as there's a free filter for every platform available out there, then is this really that big a deal. So you're required to run nanny or something. As long as you control over what (if anyting) you filter, then it's a stupid anoyance butnothing more.
The questions is: *DO* they require to you censor what they want? I haven't followed the issue but if that's so then, well, that's *S C A R Y*.
Actually, and I'm speaking as a huge slackware fan (though I also think SuSE is really nice), most of the h4xX0rz that I know use Slack and hate everything else.
http://www.spatula.net/proc/index.src and any log of more than five minutes talk on #freebsd?
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Actually, and I'm a fan of both OSes, I've seen a lot more mindless Linux bashing from FreeBSD people than mindless BSD bashing from Linux people. I used to hang out in #freebsd on EfNet but got sick of it because every single day involved some stupid "You use LinSUCKS? Eww!" argument.
My.02: Both sides need to just calm down and accept that both OSes have plusses and minuses but are overall about the best things out there.
But suppose you believe (and this isn't nescesarily what I believe but I know people who do) that it is not your right as an isp to tell your customers who they can and cannot send email to, solicited or otherwise? In that case, how fair is it to the other hundreds of subscribers of such an online service to have their mail blocked because the owner of the ISP won't compromise his principles to what Vixie wants by censoring his/her customers?
This problem with CyberPatrol seems almost exactly the same as the one presented by Paul Vixie's Realtime Black Hole List. It's a list that ISPs subscribe to. Any domain even accused of having spam sent from it is automaticaly blocked by every ISP using Vixie's naeserver. Thus, no mail from ANYONE at any domain on the list gets out to ANY subscribing ISP. He's had major universities, MSN.com and the ISP I used to work at all on the list at one time or another.
Like Cyberpatrol it's horribly, unfairly implemented and causes all kinds of crappy things to happen to people who have nothing to do with the "problem". The problem is, how do you stop it? Like the users who install cyberpatrol (if I understand what cyberpatrol is, a "child-protection" client like netnanny?) the ISPs who subscribe to the RBL do it of their own free will so who has the right to tell them that they can't? It's their mail servers, they can refuse service to whoever they want. Likewise, if someone wants Cyberpatrol on their machine then that's their prerogative.
So I'm stumped, kids. Vixie is totaly unapologetic about the way he runs his list, so how does one try and knock some sense into these idioticaly implemented, destructive "services" without unjustly trying to violate the rights of others?
It hardly started the genre, but I aggree. From the commercials I'd expected that movie to be the stupidest thing ever, but it was really good. I just hate the fact that movies like that always end with the hero becomeing a demigod but never ever actualy deal with the character *after* he/she's become nigh-omnipotent. That, I think is where the story woul dgre really interersting. Another reason to look forward to The Matrix sequels.
A friend and I had a great idea for the next two Matrix sequels.
Part II: Several years later. The humans in Zion have, under Neo's leadership, become ready to retake their planet from the AIs. They wage fight a revolution... and fail. Totally. Zion has been found and the humans have to flee. Nowhere on earth is safe, so their only chois is to leave the planet, looking for a new haven where they can start again. The AIs have never needed to leave earth so don't maintain the technology but they can develope it and they would give chase. In the final scene, after the final ship has taken off, there is an explosion in Zion, near the earth's core and we see from the window of humanity's last colony ship the earth explode. Along with the AIs, everyone who could not be saved from the Matrix, everything.
Part III: This one is a sort of phsychological drama. Not nearly as much action as the previous. Here is the last of humanity, who's planet, who's race, who's everything was destroyed by their dependance upon machines. Is flying through space in a ship, a machine, dependant again, even more than before. There's no real threat, no AI, but a lot to fear. How to people adapt to this new situation? I'd like to see characters like a historian, a studier of the events that happened while everyone thought it was the 20th century. I'd like to learn more about the AIs what the workings of the world would be like under a power totally alien, totally different from us.
Well, so that's what *I'd* like to see in a SciFi trilogy. I doubt it would ever happen. I'm not the type who says "Well, the masses would never be able to grasp something appealing to one of _my_ intellectualy calliber" but it does seem that intelligent scifi is unfortunatly unappreciated in Hollywood.
However, I do want to point out that I *loved* the Matrix. It wasn't deep, it wasn't even that great a sci-fi story. But it had the same appeal that Star Wars has for the same reasons. While SW very intentionaly employed cultural symbols and the like to allow everyone on some level to relate to the story in a more complete way, The Matrix has every popular element of Science Fiction wrapped up into one (admittedly somewhat contrived) story and that made it a great fun movie. I saw it twice, once with friends in costume and had a blast both times. I'm sick of these people talking about how this movie would only appeal to those lower on the intellectual food chain than themselves. I think they're judging it far too harshly.
I disagree. The graphic did look *pathetic* but the story looked like actual scifi, something I've not seen in the theater for a long time. It wasn't about the destruction of the earth, it was about what happens *after* the destruction of the earth. What the people do, how they cope. THAT's what makes for good scifi in my eyes and I'm really excited to see it.
Just to throw in my.02, I think it' unfair to throw DS9 in with Voyager adn the last few movies. It think that show has definately had its moments and that it has a great cast.
Granted all of the good stuf has been during the seasons where they started taking cues from Bab5 (long-term 'arc' plotline, a universe where bad things actualy happen, etc) but it's still the best of the ST crop in the last 5 years.
Did anybody see the Austin Powers II trailer attached to Star Wars? I was expecting that movie to suck, but the trailer looks SO FSCKIN FUNNY. I'm there.
Well, I think they imply in the original trilogy that Luke is something special orce-wise "The force runs strong in his family"
Which, by the way, lends credibility to the idea that the more meta-chlorides or whatever one has in their system, the more sensitive they are to the force. It would make sense, were this the case, for relatives to have similar meta-chloride levels and thus have a genetic predisposition to umm.. jedi-ness.
Did anybody else find the choral stuff diring the big saber battles to be some of the coolest music that Williams has done yet? Sounds like he'd been listening to a lot of Carl Orff when he wrote this one. =:)
Spends most of the article reluctantly saying good things about Linux and then the one piece of "evidence" used to support the thesis is totaly, utterly false. Someone was dredging the bottom of the FUD barrel for that one.
It's *auto*socialism. As in everybody involved is doing it 'cause they believe in it and want to. Nobody is forced to work for the state and give all of their (oh, sorry, "the people's") stuff to the same.
What is the freakin deal with this Mellissa stuff? I mean, really, if he'd written something that erased your hard drive, I'd be pissed like so many other seem, but really, it sends a list of porn sites to people under your name. Now unless you *are* the kind of person that would so that sort of thing, any recipient will be at least supicious (probrably not even that. It's gotten so much coverage that most will probrably recognize it for what it is w/o a second thought).
So why can't everybody just sit back and laugh at the joke. Ok, maybe he should even be proscecuted because it does invde people's privacy, but why is everybody so up in arms over this thing? It's ridiculous.
We give credit to Gnu by using their utilities. Ditto the developers of all the software I use. Even if I had a 100% GPL system, why is the liscence so important? I'm quite fond of my Pentium proscessor. Should I call it an Intel/Creative/Nvidia/Western Digital/AmiBIOS/GNU/Linux system, just in case one of them feels left out too?
My opinion: If it's that important to acknowlege that you use only GPLed stuff, then go ahead and call it GNU/Linux, but this is *totaly* different from RMS's yelling at anybody who leaves out the GNU part, regardless of whether they use just GPLed stuff or not.
And I think his point was that The Simpsons was better when it didn't preach. The lobster episode's a good example. One of my favorites. Whereas most of the ones with Lisa on a soapbox got old really fast.
Irregardless is the combination of an english word, regardless with a relevant prefix, ir. Thus it is an english word. The creation of a word conforming to the rules of English (thus an English word, whether it's in Websters or not. I'd be surprised if it weren't in Webster's come to think of it) and the evolution (bastardization?) of a term are two totaly different things.
Man, happy as I was to see/. get it's rightfull recognition, in the software department, I would've loved to see VmWare (at the LinuxCare booth) get recognized. That was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen.
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For thine is the kernel and the penguin and the glory. Forever and ever, ^M. =:)
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If not, and as long as there's a free filter for every platform available out there, then is this really that big a deal. So you're required to run nanny or something. As long as you control over what (if anyting) you filter, then it's a stupid anoyance butnothing more.
The questions is: *DO* they require to you censor what they want? I haven't followed the issue but if that's so then, well, that's *S C A R Y*.
Actually, and I'm speaking as a huge slackware fan (though I also think SuSE is really nice), most of the h4xX0rz that I know use Slack and hate everything else.
I don't know about on /. but how about
http://www.spatula.net/proc/index.src
and any log of more than five minutes talk on #freebsd?
Actually, and I'm a fan of both OSes, I've seen a lot more mindless Linux bashing from FreeBSD people than mindless BSD bashing from Linux people. I used to hang out in #freebsd on EfNet but got sick of it because every single day involved some stupid "You use LinSUCKS? Eww!" argument.
.02: Both sides need to just calm down and accept that both OSes have plusses and minuses but are overall about the best things out there.
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But suppose you believe (and this isn't nescesarily what I believe but I know people who do) that it is not your right as an isp to tell your customers who they can and cannot send email to, solicited or otherwise? In that case, how fair is it to the other hundreds of subscribers of such an online service to have their mail blocked because the owner of the ISP won't compromise his principles to what Vixie wants by censoring his/her customers?
This problem with CyberPatrol seems almost exactly the same as the one presented by Paul Vixie's Realtime Black Hole List. It's a list that ISPs subscribe to. Any domain even accused of having spam sent from it is automaticaly blocked by every ISP using Vixie's naeserver. Thus, no mail from ANYONE at any domain on the list gets out to ANY subscribing ISP. He's had major universities, MSN.com and the ISP I used to work at all on the list at one time or another.
Like Cyberpatrol it's horribly, unfairly implemented and causes all kinds of crappy things to happen to people who have nothing to do with the "problem". The problem is, how do you stop it? Like the users who install cyberpatrol (if I understand what cyberpatrol is, a "child-protection" client like netnanny?) the ISPs who subscribe to the RBL do it of their own free will so who has the right to tell them that they can't? It's their mail servers, they can refuse service to whoever they want. Likewise, if someone wants Cyberpatrol on their machine then that's their prerogative.
So I'm stumped, kids. Vixie is totaly unapologetic about the way he runs his list, so how does one try and knock some sense into these idioticaly implemented, destructive "services" without unjustly trying to violate the rights of others?
It hardly started the genre, but I aggree. From the commercials I'd expected that movie to be the stupidest thing ever, but it was really good. I just hate the fact that movies like that always end with the hero becomeing a demigod but never ever actualy deal with the character *after* he/she's become nigh-omnipotent. That, I think is where the story woul dgre really interersting. Another reason to look forward to The Matrix sequels.
A friend and I had a great idea for the next two Matrix sequels.
Part II: Several years later. The humans in Zion have, under Neo's leadership, become ready to retake their planet from the AIs. They wage fight a revolution... and fail. Totally. Zion has been found and the humans have to flee. Nowhere on earth is safe, so their only chois is to leave the planet, looking for a new haven where they can start again. The AIs have never needed to leave earth so don't maintain the technology but they can develope it and they would give chase. In the final scene, after the final ship has taken off, there is an explosion in Zion, near the earth's core and we see from the window of humanity's last colony ship the earth explode. Along with the AIs, everyone who could not be saved from the Matrix, everything.
Part III: This one is a sort of phsychological drama. Not nearly as much action as the previous. Here is the last of humanity, who's planet, who's race, who's everything was destroyed by their dependance upon machines. Is flying through space in a ship, a machine, dependant again, even more than before. There's no real threat, no AI, but a lot to fear. How to people adapt to this new situation? I'd like to see characters like a historian, a studier of the events that happened while everyone thought it was the 20th century. I'd like to learn more about the AIs what the workings of the world would be like under a power totally alien, totally different from us.
Well, so that's what *I'd* like to see in a SciFi trilogy. I doubt it would ever happen. I'm not the type who says "Well, the masses would never be able to grasp something appealing to one of _my_ intellectualy calliber" but it does seem that intelligent scifi is unfortunatly unappreciated in Hollywood.
However, I do want to point out that I *loved* the Matrix. It wasn't deep, it wasn't even that great a sci-fi story. But it had the same appeal that Star Wars has for the same reasons. While SW very intentionaly employed cultural symbols and the like to allow everyone on some level to relate to the story in a more complete way, The Matrix has every popular element of Science Fiction wrapped up into one (admittedly somewhat contrived) story and that made it a great fun movie. I saw it twice, once with friends in costume and had a blast both times. I'm sick of these people talking about how this movie would only appeal to those lower on the intellectual food chain than themselves. I think they're judging it far too harshly.
Ok. I'm done. =:)
I disagree. The graphic did look *pathetic* but the story looked like actual scifi, something I've not seen in the theater for a long time. It wasn't about the destruction of the earth, it was about what happens *after* the destruction of the earth. What the people do, how they cope. THAT's what makes for good scifi in my eyes and I'm really excited to see it.
Just to throw in my .02, I think it' unfair to throw DS9 in with Voyager adn the last few movies. It think that show has definately had its moments and that it has a great cast.
Granted all of the good stuf has been during the seasons where they started taking cues from Bab5 (long-term 'arc' plotline, a universe where bad things actualy happen, etc) but it's still the best of the ST crop in the last 5 years.
Did anybody see the Austin Powers II trailer attached to Star Wars? I was expecting that movie to suck, but the trailer looks SO FSCKIN FUNNY. I'm there.
Well, I think they imply in the original trilogy that Luke is something special orce-wise "The force runs strong in his family"
Which, by the way, lends credibility to the idea that the more meta-chlorides or whatever one has in their system, the more sensitive they are to the force. It would make sense, were this the case, for relatives to have similar meta-chloride levels and thus have a genetic predisposition to umm.. jedi-ness.
Sorry, my vocabulary just ran out. =:)
Did anybody else find the choral stuff diring the big saber battles to be some of the coolest music that Williams has done yet? Sounds like he'd been listening to a lot of Carl Orff when he wrote this one. =:)
Went to their page. Visualy, it looks great, but is there no Linux port?? =:(
Spends most of the article reluctantly saying good things about Linux and then the one piece of "evidence" used to support the thesis is totaly, utterly false. Someone was dredging the bottom of the FUD barrel for that one.
"What's Open Software but Socialism?"
It's *auto*socialism. As in everybody involved is doing it 'cause they believe in it and want to. Nobody is forced to work for the state and give all of their (oh, sorry, "the people's") stuff to the same.
Ok, maybe I've missed something, but I doubt it.
What is the freakin deal with this Mellissa stuff? I mean, really, if he'd written something that erased your hard drive, I'd be pissed like so many other seem, but really, it sends a list of porn sites to people under your name. Now unless you *are* the kind of person that would so that sort of thing, any recipient will be at least supicious (probrably not even that. It's gotten so much coverage that most will probrably recognize it for what it is w/o a second thought).
So why can't everybody just sit back and laugh at the joke. Ok, maybe he should even be proscecuted because it does invde people's privacy, but why is everybody so up in arms over this thing? It's ridiculous.
Well said. =:)
We give credit to Gnu by using their utilities. Ditto the developers of all the software I use. Even if I had a 100% GPL system, why is the liscence so important? I'm quite fond of my Pentium proscessor. Should I call it an Intel/Creative/Nvidia/Western Digital/AmiBIOS/GNU/Linux system, just in case one of them feels left out too?
My opinion: If it's that important to acknowlege that you use only GPLed stuff, then go ahead and call it GNU/Linux, but this is *totaly* different from RMS's yelling at anybody who leaves out the GNU part, regardless of whether they use just GPLed stuff or not.
And I think his point was that The Simpsons was better when it didn't preach. The lobster episode's a good example. One of my favorites. Whereas most of the ones with Lisa on a soapbox got old really fast.
Irregardless is the combination of an english word, regardless with a relevant prefix, ir. Thus it is an english word. The creation of a word conforming to the rules of English (thus an English word, whether it's in Websters or not. I'd be surprised if it weren't in Webster's come to think of it) and the evolution (bastardization?) of a term are two totaly different things.
Man, happy as I was to see /. get it's rightfull recognition, in the software department, I would've loved to see VmWare (at the LinuxCare booth) get recognized. That was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen.
Oh wonderfull! Does this mean we'll finaly have a *decent* web page there? =:)
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Bwa-hahaha. =:) That was great.
Now just what the heck would that program do? Oh, the possibilities!