Just pickin' 'cause i use my camera (a lot), but that is not really over-exposure, the technique used there is what is refered to as a "rear-synced" exposure....the flash is synced to bang at the end of the exposure lighting the subject at the end of its movement during the shot. You are most correct in stating that this is an excellent way to show how this suspension acts though...a damn good way. It's also how some very dramatic and motion-capturing shots are taken in nightclubs and other low-light situations. Very nice effect and used here perfectly.
Again, just picking 'cause i'm love with the camera;-)
That is probably the most useful comment i've read in a while. To be honest, i have been thinking about working for a bit, clearing some school debt, and getting an MBA as they didn't teach jack for business in my engineering classes.
The company i'm about to sign on with is still private (and will be for a bit, i hope), still small enough that access to the top folks is alive, and they seem to be a Good Company (so far). A friend and engineering classmate is there at the same level as i, and we have enough free time and have talked about what we would want to go into business doing for ourselves at some point. Some of the guys that work there have gone the route of 3 cars, big house, and bigass debt to go with it. He hasn't and i won't, so we may be in good shape in a few years to get it rolling. i appreciate the enouragement for sure:)
"Unfortunatly, I doubt we'll ever see benevolent monopolies (or even corporations) ever again."
If i had the points i had last night, i'd mod you through the roof. This is the most insightful and true statement i've seen today.
i hate to be a defeatist, but fucking christ, who isn't trying to fuck you these days? It's not enough to have a chalet on some remote lake anymore is it? It's not enough to have 7+ figures in the bank is it?
i just grow more and more disheartened that there are no truly benevolent companies in monopolistic positions these days. i won't glorify the "good ol' days" and sure as hell, there were sharks in those days, but i can't help but feel that i'm getting fucked, about to get fucked, or have the research to realize that, yeah, i am getting fucked by some company.
Shit, maybe i'm just out of touch, but i'd hoped that by the age of 26 i'd not be so goddamn cynical and have to watch my back at every fucking turn....like maybe, just maybe, some corps just might give a fuck that i live to next year and buy the next edition. Know what i mean?
Fuck, i already sound like my grandfather and at least he got be 50 before he was an ass about everything.
SANS internet storm center has a note on this. They have seen increased scriptkiddie activity possibly leading up to this. Started on Sunday. Also read the note on the "drag-n-drop" exploit that is now seen in the wild and only requires you to move the scrollbar for it to install....several scanners are not picking up some of the new binaries being installed.
heh, that one gave me pretty good chuckle. And actually, i'll be getting a offer letter today on a new job, have looked at/. subs before and think i'll probably do it 'cause i do spend some time here and like the place:-) See what engineering school has done to me!!??:-P
...should soon be rife with this sort of thing. Want to play the game? For free? Well, here's some ads to enjoy in the mean time. Might bug some folks, but if the game is really that good, hell, i'll buy...if the ads are taken out of the pay-version.
You know, as more things like this begin to gather, i can't help but think this is the "quiet before the storm" here.
The reason i feel this way: take a look at what they have been up to. They started looking at actually improving security (SP2), hey, it's a start. Longhorn is on the way - it's not going to be XP SP3 when it comes out. There is going to be stuff in there not seen before, might even be great stuff. Think IE isn't getting a face lift/massive-rewrite? Think again.
They have begun the (successfully) Get the Facts tour, mixing the ideas of free (not beer), open, and free (beer) source ideas to muddy the water for those that don't know better. Even though most of us here at Slashdot and the F/OSS community as a whole know the difference (you do know the difference yes?), corporate folks (no need for name calling) don't...or.....or they aren't willing to spend the resources to really find out. Trust me, VP's and a lot of CIO/CTO folks listen to properly dressed, rational, non-frothing-at-the-mouth representatives from a reputable company (MS here on the GtF Tour) as opposed to...well, the frothing at the mouth rabid GNU fan in Unix-Ops. No, not all Gnu folks are like that, i know, but when it's your ass and $25mill on the line - you want contracts, guarantees, and an entity to point at when the shit hits the fan.
OK, back on the point:
Microsoft has just only begun to start the war machine - those patents that are flying out the door so fast? They will be used when times get rough. They will mix and mash and muddle up the words, terms, courts, and with the correct patents, seriously damage F/OSS here in the US. i still have faith the rest of the world will give them the finger, but i'm worried about here...at home in the US.
Watching my government become more so one that listens to money, where lobbyists are bought, focus groups are bought, campaigns are purchased, "consumer advocacy groups" are funded (read bought), and laws are "purchased"...i become more and more disheartened that when Microsoft pulls out all the stops, our very own government will just "follow the money", hurt F/OSS in this country and consequently hurt the US on the world stage for technology, which then hurts the economy, which then hurts higher (and lower) education, which breeds a generation of dolts, who....hell, i don't even know what will happen then.
What i'm trying to get at is, i'm more than a little concerned about the trend to "legislate" technology as opposed to common sense and how much these patents could stifle growth here in the US. Now, F/OSS will be fine on the world stage - think some programmer in South Africa that needs a quick tool for this or that gives a flying fuck about MS patents? No, the software will be written and shared with the world......but not the US. That is what scares me about when MS starts pulling out all the stops.
Now, i don't know about you, but no one will be taking my SuSe, Mandrake or Gentoo cd's from me, but i'm hoping there won't be a day, where if you don't have MS-insert-OS and the up-to-date payment stub of your "license" then you don't get on the internet, you don't check your email, you don't....blah, blah, blah.
i don't think it will come to that...there are too many bright people to let that happen, but i just get the feeling we're watching the storm clouds gather and well, it's going to be messy when the USPTO, Congress, MS, MS's Money, the large non-MS companies collide.
This is just my rambling...mod as you like, or better yet, reply - i'd rather know what you think in words as opposed to one lil dropbox.
...and it was the other day that i was trying to defend the history of the games and the importance of so many countries taking "time out" to just compete as a human race.....
Now, all that is just....empty....sad. Makes me sad and not in a sappy, dramatic way...just...well, sad and tired.
"....that in a bid to protect its lucrative media contracts, the IOC is barring..."
...and i stopped reading. i'm not going to rant about the legacy of the games or this and that...i'm just going to say: keep 'em, keep the money, keep your coverage, keep the contracts and consider me disgusted.
"... If you have a glaring security hole, you better tell everybody to patch it because you risk losing your rep..."
If you spent that much on the product, you should be the emails lists about that product. If you really spent a lot, there are plenty of companies that have closed lists for dissemenating exploit info extremely quickly...to the people that should know about it (ie, the people that HAVE the product. If you love reading that companies have fixed things so much, dig about on the site and find the pages with that info...not the front page. i understand what you are saying, but i'm trying to explain to the OP why this might not be on the front page of the site.
at the risk of stating the obvious: if you were a new customer and went to a company's site and it was splattered with all manner of warnings, update calls, and exploit workarounds....would you buy that product?
If you have a cisco, you should already know where the errata, update, exploit-watch pages are and read them everyday. You should already know this. Why would cisco put that shit on the front page?
Just had a prof that i know spend a good deal of money to have Gentoo put on his alphas. He simply is in love with them and just won't let them go. Admittedly, he's an older, British guy studying 12th century Chinese music (no, that is not a joke) and codes *everything* in lisp (the mere mention of anything other than emacs will launch a long, but very well defended argument). He even had his wife's computer done too (she's a heavy alpha user and prof too).
i'm not sure what the point of this is, other than to say, there are still people who love and use alphas for some very important work (not that i'm waiting for 12th century chinese tunes to save the world, but you know what i'm saying). It's still sad to see something that was once great kinda wander off into non-production:(
i'm in the same boat i think. i can't recall the last CD i bought...really, no idea which one it was or when. Same for DVD's. i have many of both, but it's been so long since i've put down cash for one.
"Oh, you must be stealing all that then through p2p," some might guess. Um, no. i go see local bands. i buy their homemade discs to help the guitarist buy that new amp he needs. i listen to legal streams from websites promoting small, more-to-my-liking artists.
i agree witb you on the media companies - they can go fuck themselves and the rest with them. When is the last time some worth buying the entire cd for was featured on TRL? Nevermind that it's a 40sec clip whilst some moron talks over the music. i can't stand riding in the car with my gf b/c the radio MUST be on some Clearchannel top-40 station.....all the time. No news, no local stations with local dj's and artists. Nothing, just the shit that gets pumped 3 times an hour in a loop. Tiring and frustrating.
...look at the posting editor. i've said it before and i'll say it again, Michael is out of touch and generally posts pretentious articles. i'm thinking it's some sort of complex or something. Everything he posts is some YRO, obscure, anti-establishment laden attempt to boost his ego...or something. This is not a troll, it is an observation, but will most likely be modded a troll due to the dissenting nature.
Anyway, don't be shocked by his misguided ego - it's old and getting more so. Hell, his little "gnutella-still-free-for-all dept" on the Real story is evidence of his nature and was pointed out in this post. Michael is a liability and tired.
Someone help me out, i've poked about in the GPL and *think* i understand what it means, but what happens when:
a package is released GPL style, then the devs decide that's not exactly what they wanted and decide to change the license....er, what happens then? Are the old versions still under GPL? Is the new code, regardless of the newly chosen license still bound to the GPL since it's based on the older code? What about re-writing all the code new - that wouldn't be covered, but how close is too close to the old code?
This article just made me wonder a few things, someone help me (others) out here.
or perhaps he did know it was wrong (why else write a "keewell" virus from an old virus?) Like he didn't know it would fuck things up - you sir, are lost if you think an 18 yr. old that knows how to code (sorta) and re-used known virus code to make another virus, is "lacking the moral logic to recognize what he was doing is wrong". Complete bollocks.
He knew what he was doing was wrong. Knew it would break shit. Did it anyway. Could have been one of those "got out of hand" things though. Fine, but it was wrong and he knew it. If you know enough to mess with viruses, you know enough to know that it's wrong to just release them in the wild and you should garner enough knowledge to hide it if you are stupid enough to release it.
In the "real world" as you call it, people know their shit. Marie Curie didn't know radioactive material would kill her, but the Manhattan Project *knew* that it did (and how to control it's reactions), and didn't blow themselves up on accident...they blew shit up on purpose. And now we have the penalty of nuclear proliferation. And the good side (before you jump the gun...again)? We have loads of great tech (cancer therapy, etc.) from her (and the MP) work....but it's for the good, much like many computers are safer for knowing this danger is out there by being patched. (yes, many are not....that is not the argument here).
Something else to add: when one starts programming and discovers fork(), one *knows* what it does and uses it carefully. If one wants to know just how dangerous it is (or wants to test its danger...much like our little friend, the virus coder might have "just been curious")...one codes in a protected environment....period. If he was really that curious and innocent, he'd have done it on a closed network for testing and learning. If you know enough to know something is dangerous and want to test, you take precautions...or you fuck up and pay the price. The "complexities...in the real world" don't give a good goddamn what your intentions are.
virus writers are not funny, cool, nor ub3r if they release to the public without first going to the source(s) of the problems (ie shitty programming companies that hire people unable to code out of wet paper bags). The situation becomes sticky when the company ignores you or threatens you (it happens). Well, then go to SANS or CERT, if a red-flag from those two places do not get the attention of afore mentioned shitty programming company, then at least the rest of the community has the knowledge of their shitty product.
Take your pick:
1. code, break, inform and then help the community protect themselves.
2. or be ub3r and "cute", le33t3 (or whatever shit), release into the wild and enjoy your penalty.
What i've not listed there is group 3 - the silent, crafty ones. Not sure what their motive is if they break and never help FIX anything. 'cept sitting at home marveling at how cool they are...which only gets you so far when you are alone;-)
i can say this: if you don't know enough to keep from getting caught, well, enjoy the penalty. On that note, no, i don't condone doing such a thing, but with the many ways to get online anonymously (no, not some crappy online anonymizer or some such...i mean, the real ways...if you don't know, i'm sure as fuck not going to tell you) you should never be caught....
...unless you are stupid, reuse code, code with the wrong tools (read up), and release from your own fucking email account, etc. The ways to get away with this shit are many, the stupid take-the-easy-way-out folks get caught and the normal user will click away like there's no tomorrow regardless of the source (ask your local IT guy if you don't believe me on that one).
Sorry, no remorse for those that act without knowing enough.
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Just pickin' 'cause i use my camera (a lot), but that is not really over-exposure, the technique used there is what is refered to as a "rear-synced" exposure....the flash is synced to bang at the end of the exposure lighting the subject at the end of its movement during the shot. You are most correct in stating that this is an excellent way to show how this suspension acts though...a damn good way. It's also how some very dramatic and motion-capturing shots are taken in nightclubs and other low-light situations. Very nice effect and used here perfectly.
;-)
Again, just picking 'cause i'm love with the camera
That is probably the most useful comment i've read in a while. To be honest, i have been thinking about working for a bit, clearing some school debt, and getting an MBA as they didn't teach jack for business in my engineering classes.
:)
The company i'm about to sign on with is still private (and will be for a bit, i hope), still small enough that access to the top folks is alive, and they seem to be a Good Company (so far). A friend and engineering classmate is there at the same level as i, and we have enough free time and have talked about what we would want to go into business doing for ourselves at some point. Some of the guys that work there have gone the route of 3 cars, big house, and bigass debt to go with it. He hasn't and i won't, so we may be in good shape in a few years to get it rolling. i appreciate the enouragement for sure
i want some device that close to my "procreator" displaying such a mad display of .....hrm
wait...i can view this thing in my own room ya?
"Unfortunatly, I doubt we'll ever see benevolent monopolies (or even corporations) ever again."
If i had the points i had last night, i'd mod you through the roof. This is the most insightful and true statement i've seen today.
i hate to be a defeatist, but fucking christ, who isn't trying to fuck you these days? It's not enough to have a chalet on some remote lake anymore is it? It's not enough to have 7+ figures in the bank is it?
i just grow more and more disheartened that there are no truly benevolent companies in monopolistic positions these days. i won't glorify the "good ol' days" and sure as hell, there were sharks in those days, but i can't help but feel that i'm getting fucked, about to get fucked, or have the research to realize that, yeah, i am getting fucked by some company.
Shit, maybe i'm just out of touch, but i'd hoped that by the age of 26 i'd not be so goddamn cynical and have to watch my back at every fucking turn....like maybe, just maybe, some corps just might give a fuck that i live to next year and buy the next edition. Know what i mean?
Fuck, i already sound like my grandfather and at least he got be 50 before he was an ass about everything.
SANS internet storm center has a note on this. They have seen increased scriptkiddie activity possibly leading up to this. Started on Sunday. Also read the note on the "drag-n-drop" exploit that is now seen in the wild and only requires you to move the scrollbar for it to install....several scanners are not picking up some of the new binaries being installed.
heh, that one gave me pretty good chuckle. And actually, i'll be getting a offer letter today on a new job, have looked at /. subs before and think i'll probably do it 'cause i do spend some time here and like the place :-) See what engineering school has done to me!!?? :-P
...should soon be rife with this sort of thing. Want to play the game? For free? Well, here's some ads to enjoy in the mean time. Might bug some folks, but if the game is really that good, hell, i'll buy...if the ads are taken out of the pay-version.
You know, as more things like this begin to gather, i can't help but think this is the "quiet before the storm" here.
....hell, i don't even know what will happen then.
The reason i feel this way: take a look at what they have been up to. They started looking at actually improving security (SP2), hey, it's a start. Longhorn is on the way - it's not going to be XP SP3 when it comes out. There is going to be stuff in there not seen before, might even be great stuff. Think IE isn't getting a face lift/massive-rewrite? Think again.
They have begun the (successfully) Get the Facts tour, mixing the ideas of free (not beer), open, and free (beer) source ideas to muddy the water for those that don't know better. Even though most of us here at Slashdot and the F/OSS community as a whole know the difference (you do know the difference yes?), corporate folks (no need for name calling) don't...or.....or they aren't willing to spend the resources to really find out. Trust me, VP's and a lot of CIO/CTO folks listen to properly dressed, rational, non-frothing-at-the-mouth representatives from a reputable company (MS here on the GtF Tour) as opposed to...well, the frothing at the mouth rabid GNU fan in Unix-Ops. No, not all Gnu folks are like that, i know, but when it's your ass and $25mill on the line - you want contracts, guarantees, and an entity to point at when the shit hits the fan.
OK, back on the point: Microsoft has just only begun to start the war machine - those patents that are flying out the door so fast? They will be used when times get rough. They will mix and mash and muddle up the words, terms, courts, and with the correct patents, seriously damage F/OSS here in the US. i still have faith the rest of the world will give them the finger, but i'm worried about here...at home in the US.
Watching my government become more so one that listens to money, where lobbyists are bought, focus groups are bought, campaigns are purchased, "consumer advocacy groups" are funded (read bought), and laws are "purchased"...i become more and more disheartened that when Microsoft pulls out all the stops, our very own government will just "follow the money", hurt F/OSS in this country and consequently hurt the US on the world stage for technology, which then hurts the economy, which then hurts higher (and lower) education, which breeds a generation of dolts, who
What i'm trying to get at is, i'm more than a little concerned about the trend to "legislate" technology as opposed to common sense and how much these patents could stifle growth here in the US. Now, F/OSS will be fine on the world stage - think some programmer in South Africa that needs a quick tool for this or that gives a flying fuck about MS patents? No, the software will be written and shared with the world......but not the US. That is what scares me about when MS starts pulling out all the stops.
Now, i don't know about you, but no one will be taking my SuSe, Mandrake or Gentoo cd's from me, but i'm hoping there won't be a day, where if you don't have MS-insert-OS and the up-to-date payment stub of your "license" then you don't get on the internet, you don't check your email, you don't....blah, blah, blah.
i don't think it will come to that...there are too many bright people to let that happen, but i just get the feeling we're watching the storm clouds gather and well, it's going to be messy when the USPTO, Congress, MS, MS's Money, the large non-MS companies collide.
This is just my rambling...mod as you like, or better yet, reply - i'd rather know what you think in words as opposed to one lil dropbox.
i can't pass up commenting on that page:
... wow ... really sad.
That is
...and it was the other day that i was trying to defend the history of the games and the importance of so many countries taking "time out" to just compete as a human race.....
Now, all that is just....empty....sad. Makes me sad and not in a sappy, dramatic way...just...well, sad and tired.
"....that in a bid to protect its lucrative media contracts, the IOC is barring..."
...and i stopped reading. i'm not going to rant about the legacy of the games or this and that...i'm just going to say: keep 'em, keep the money, keep your coverage, keep the contracts and consider me disgusted.
heh...dunno how you guys do it, but me and my friends normally wear pants when using computers...in the same room ;-)
Understood :) ..and thank you :)
"... If you have a glaring security hole, you better tell everybody to patch it because you risk losing your rep..."
If you spent that much on the product, you should be the emails lists about that product. If you really spent a lot, there are plenty of companies that have closed lists for dissemenating exploit info extremely quickly...to the people that should know about it (ie, the people that HAVE the product. If you love reading that companies have fixed things so much, dig about on the site and find the pages with that info...not the front page. i understand what you are saying, but i'm trying to explain to the OP why this might not be on the front page of the site.
at the risk of stating the obvious: if you were a new customer and went to a company's site and it was splattered with all manner of warnings, update calls, and exploit workarounds....would you buy that product?
If you have a cisco, you should already know where the errata, update, exploit-watch pages are and read them everyday. You should already know this. Why would cisco put that shit on the front page?
Just had a prof that i know spend a good deal of money to have Gentoo put on his alphas. He simply is in love with them and just won't let them go. Admittedly, he's an older, British guy studying 12th century Chinese music (no, that is not a joke) and codes *everything* in lisp (the mere mention of anything other than emacs will launch a long, but very well defended argument). He even had his wife's computer done too (she's a heavy alpha user and prof too).
:(
i'm not sure what the point of this is, other than to say, there are still people who love and use alphas for some very important work (not that i'm waiting for 12th century chinese tunes to save the world, but you know what i'm saying). It's still sad to see something that was once great kinda wander off into non-production
i'm in the same boat i think. i can't recall the last CD i bought...really, no idea which one it was or when. Same for DVD's. i have many of both, but it's been so long since i've put down cash for one.
"Oh, you must be stealing all that then through p2p," some might guess. Um, no. i go see local bands. i buy their homemade discs to help the guitarist buy that new amp he needs. i listen to legal streams from websites promoting small, more-to-my-liking artists.
i agree witb you on the media companies - they can go fuck themselves and the rest with them. When is the last time some worth buying the entire cd for was featured on TRL? Nevermind that it's a 40sec clip whilst some moron talks over the music. i can't stand riding in the car with my gf b/c the radio MUST be on some Clearchannel top-40 station.....all the time. No news, no local stations with local dj's and artists. Nothing, just the shit that gets pumped 3 times an hour in a loop. Tiring and frustrating.
Yeah, i'm sick of all of it too.
"...and i don't consider myself a pussy, ok?"
"Yes. i am also not a pussy."
...look at the posting editor. i've said it before and i'll say it again, Michael is out of touch and generally posts pretentious articles. i'm thinking it's some sort of complex or something. Everything he posts is some YRO, obscure, anti-establishment laden attempt to boost his ego...or something. This is not a troll, it is an observation, but will most likely be modded a troll due to the dissenting nature.
Anyway, don't be shocked by his misguided ego - it's old and getting more so. Hell, his little "gnutella-still-free-for-all dept" on the Real story is evidence of his nature and was pointed out in this post. Michael is a liability and tired.
Here is more information, the SANS Internet Storm Center has seen much activity (and growing) of this shit.
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Someone help me out, i've poked about in the GPL and *think* i understand what it means, but what happens when:
a package is released GPL style, then the devs decide that's not exactly what they wanted and decide to change the license....er, what happens then? Are the old versions still under GPL? Is the new code, regardless of the newly chosen license still bound to the GPL since it's based on the older code? What about re-writing all the code new - that wouldn't be covered, but how close is too close to the old code?
This article just made me wonder a few things, someone help me (others) out here.
or perhaps he did know it was wrong (why else write a "keewell" virus from an old virus?) Like he didn't know it would fuck things up - you sir, are lost if you think an 18 yr. old that knows how to code (sorta) and re-used known virus code to make another virus, is "lacking the moral logic to recognize what he was doing is wrong". Complete bollocks.
He knew what he was doing was wrong. Knew it would break shit. Did it anyway. Could have been one of those "got out of hand" things though. Fine, but it was wrong and he knew it. If you know enough to mess with viruses, you know enough to know that it's wrong to just release them in the wild and you should garner enough knowledge to hide it if you are stupid enough to release it.
In the "real world" as you call it, people know their shit. Marie Curie didn't know radioactive material would kill her, but the Manhattan Project *knew* that it did (and how to control it's reactions), and didn't blow themselves up on accident...they blew shit up on purpose. And now we have the penalty of nuclear proliferation. And the good side (before you jump the gun...again)? We have loads of great tech (cancer therapy, etc.) from her (and the MP) work....but it's for the good, much like many computers are safer for knowing this danger is out there by being patched. (yes, many are not....that is not the argument here).
Something else to add: when one starts programming and discovers fork(), one *knows* what it does and uses it carefully. If one wants to know just how dangerous it is (or wants to test its danger...much like our little friend, the virus coder might have "just been curious")...one codes in a protected environment....period. If he was really that curious and innocent, he'd have done it on a closed network for testing and learning. If you know enough to know something is dangerous and want to test, you take precautions...or you fuck up and pay the price. The "complexities...in the real world" don't give a good goddamn what your intentions are.
well, smartass, apparently some people (ie the fucktard that this article is about) don't, so what have you to say on that?
get back under your bridge.
before any moderation or replies, let me clarify:
;-)
virus writers are not funny, cool, nor ub3r if they release to the public without first going to the source(s) of the problems (ie shitty programming companies that hire people unable to code out of wet paper bags). The situation becomes sticky when the company ignores you or threatens you (it happens). Well, then go to SANS or CERT, if a red-flag from those two places do not get the attention of afore mentioned shitty programming company, then at least the rest of the community has the knowledge of their shitty product.
Take your pick:
1. code, break, inform and then help the community protect themselves.
2. or be ub3r and "cute", le33t3 (or whatever shit), release into the wild and enjoy your penalty.
What i've not listed there is group 3 - the silent, crafty ones. Not sure what their motive is if they break and never help FIX anything. 'cept sitting at home marveling at how cool they are...which only gets you so far when you are alone
i can say this: if you don't know enough to keep from getting caught, well, enjoy the penalty. On that note, no, i don't condone doing such a thing, but with the many ways to get online anonymously (no, not some crappy online anonymizer or some such...i mean, the real ways...if you don't know, i'm sure as fuck not going to tell you) you should never be caught....
...unless you are stupid, reuse code, code with the wrong tools (read up), and release from your own fucking email account, etc. The ways to get away with this shit are many, the stupid take-the-easy-way-out folks get caught and the normal user will click away like there's no tomorrow regardless of the source (ask your local IT guy if you don't believe me on that one).
Sorry, no remorse for those that act without knowing enough.