You know when it stopped working? WHEN PEOPLE STOPPED PARTICIPATING!!!
I know political agenda is a bad word, but damn it all to hell how else is a representative democracy supposed to work if you don't have a political agenda and make an effort to see that agenda through?
I agree the idea can't be stopped. But I think the unintended consequence is tons of copyright/distribution license violations or Tivoization.
A business will use gpl'd libraries to avoid having to make their own and then pass the whole thing off as their own. From there, they've got an advertising budget so they can easily drown out the buzz from a community-based solutions.
I know it happens in windows because some of the commands for a particular ssh server my employer was using were 1:1 openssl. I asked someone in the vendor's support and their canned response was "they made a clean-room implementation." Openssl is a shed-load of code. Tough coding too. I have serious doubts.
All of the moderators that rewarded this simplistic thinking haven't thought this one through enough.
* American products become cheaper to foreign markets. This helps with the trade imbalances we currently have. Maintaining the view that reaching some sort of trade parity is a common good is still fiercely debated in economics. How many years has this been going on with no apparent harm? Don't get side tracked into other issues related to, but not dealing specifically with trade imbalance.
If it were the case that the U.S. had a booming manufacturing segment, you would indeed be correct. Long ago the common wisdom was the U.S. economy was becoming a service economy. Let's agree it is for a minute and keep reading.
* Foreign products become more expensive to American consumers, also helping with trade deficits. Devaluing currency sets off an inflationary cycle. It makes everything imported more expensive. As a result, you will do some combination of buying less and demanding higher wages. Except, I thought a cheaper dollar was supposed to make it easier to sell american products?
* It discourages foreign workers from sneaking into the US. Getting $4.00 an hour is suddenly not so much compared to what they get paid in their home country. Okay, enough with the veiled immigrant bashing. Americans don't take jobs that pay $4/hr. Instead of considering the idea that the huge number $4/hr jobs might be a problem, we all accept immigrants (illegal or otherwise) who work for $4/hr.
IMHO, cheap credit is a crack pipe the U.S. economy has been living off of for decades. The financial world knows that. They've been exporting investing dollars too. Americans won't control their own spending/saving and this is one of the consequences. China's economic/political policies have a role in this too, but the first place to look for blame is in the mirror.
I would argue that it works fine because the DMCA serves the media conglomerates to the detriment of all consumers.
Let's suspend the notion that there is an element of destruction in government for a few moments. It's a whole lot easier to have, at the bare minimum, a discussion about government and how it could possibly serve consumers.
I learned a heck of a lot working with dieharder especially considering my lack of mathematical acumen. The author and friends were unbelievably patient and helpful. In my book it's the best tool ever.
If I went on any "5-star, all-expense paid trip to Singapore" at a vendor's expense I'm going to be--and I would deserve to be--fired in less time than it took me to write this note.
Assuming you are a full-time journalist, then you would be working at the last media outlet with any scruples whatsoever. You also probably get few, if any, product reviews, first-in-line product announcements too because your media would be considered too independent to guarantee a good review.
Why is this an issue to anyone? This is a simple matter of Legal doing their usual cover-all-bases NDA. Furthermore, all mainstream American media (I don't know about anywhere else) long ago abandoned the notion that they are some kind of moderating influence. e.g. the whole woodward/bernstein feet-on-the-street style reporting is a myth. What's left are a few long ago marginalized media entities attempting to cover stories with no cooperation from the story generators. Hardly a recipe for success in the media market.
Much like every other global company that wants to do progressively more business in the U.S., you must get the politicians on your side. That entails offices/plants so they can actually get meetings inside the political system. Otherwise, no one will give you the legislative time.
The parent post is right on and warrants 5+ informative moderation.
A concise, widely accepted and universally taught analysis of why monopolies are bad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadweight_loss The deadweight loss is what you and I lose in dollars and units under Microsoft's market control.
The first is legal; the second is not.
Let's leave "legal" and "illegal" to the lawyers and increasingly the politicians who control the DOJ.
Please divorce yourself from these politically expedient ideas. They directly harm you.
Whoever modded this comment flamebait either isn't being very honest or isn't a parent.
While the comment drifts a bit, the basic idea is right on. The problem of short attention spans begins with parents letting the TV babysit their child.
Limited and structured television is fine. We use it to watch movies, travel shows and other stuff as a family, for a finite amount of time not to exceed the length of a movie or the television show. Why? Because there should be something to talk/laugh about afterwards. If it can't pass that simple test, it's time wasted.
Does my kid still ask to watch TV? Yes, she's a kid. But she's got other options including doing kid-parent stuff.
Step 1 to eliminating tv is getting rid of the giant screen whatever and getting a 17" or less and putting it in a cabinet that closes so it's not around.
Being human includes the capacity to believe ridiculous stories and perpetuate them.
It's much easier to blame something else (the media, military industrial complex, etc.) than it is for Americans to acknowledge they continually fail to participate in their own democracy.
All of the information needed for an American to independently evaluate what was being offered as reasons was, at minimum, available at a public library.
I hope more stories like this make it through moderation.
If Microsoft did force their "standard" on people, how much would it cripple the marketplace?
It wouldn't cripple a market but their monopoly status continues to destroy wealth, eliminate efficiency through interoperability, and chill innovation. Your story clearly highlights the lack of interoperability and inefficiency achieved through forcing upgrades.
This issue is critical and I don't count Microsoft out for the count. It will not surprise me when they play more parliamentary tricks. It remains to be seen how much money it takes to buy an ISO standard.
Google is playing with the worst of the worst kind of competitor with the telcos and I doubt they have the finances much less the dirty tricks to pull it off.
I'm very interested in hearing how others think it will play out.
Good insight into my comment. I saw the flaw in my logic later.
I would call your notion that profit-seeking somehow redresses or creates accountability a misguided idea. Profit is the only motive. Not accountability. The point being that soon after privatization takes hold the previously public system with some (admittedly remote) chance of accountability then vanishes altogether and is replaced with profit, not accountability or efficiency.
I would call your second notion that the courts provide a stick to correct a business' actions a deeply misguided ideal. The only party that benefits in the courts is the lawyers.
It's reasonable to assume lots of data is being compromised because there is very little, if any regulation.
Given that data collection is an industry makes billions annually, I'd argue they behave like the tobacco companies. Cancer? What cancer? Addiction? Nah. That's a personal problem. Roughly translated to "Your personal data is safe with us!"
1. The source of "identity theft" is not the banks!!!!!! There are private companies collecting all kinds of data about you and I. It's why you get junk snail mail when you buy a house or have a child to name two examples.
2. The notion of "identity theft" is a tactic to legitimate personal data warehousing. It separates the Evil identity thieves and the Good identity vendors. Except the root of this evil is the companies and institutions collecting and storing your personal data for decades beyond it's useful period.
Please examine the issue more carefully before spouting quickie-mart solutions.
Either way, this "story" is so light on facts and any objectivity whatsoever it hardly resembles journalism. Since the WSJ is "reporting" it, it will not be scrutinized.
They would be very wise to do more in Linux, but it's just not likely.
1. Worked with Adobe corporate types I can tell you the riskiest thing they've done in a LONG time is choosing a new restaurant for lunch.
2. They've got the Graphic Design market easily in hand world wide. Moreover, the mere discussion of alternatives to many people that use their tools every day is a thoughtcrime. Why screw that up by validating Linux? If they offer any of their desktop publishing software on linux, then the good Free desktop publishing tools and color management systems already available are the worst kind of competition.
3. "Linux" as a market size is unknown. The corporate types rely on market research for their quantifying Linux and there's no perception of a reliable source of this kind of data. Therefore, the market is ignored. It would be career suicide within Adobe to promote, much less discuss seat-of-the-pants prognostications.
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And? A cheaper dollar still sets of an inflationary cycle that, wait for it...... Raises prices!!!!
So, the notion that our goods become cheaper is temporary at best.
But voting does not work anymore.
You know when it stopped working? WHEN PEOPLE STOPPED PARTICIPATING!!!
I know political agenda is a bad word, but damn it all to hell how else is a representative democracy supposed to work if you don't have a political agenda and make an effort to see that agenda through?
I agree the idea can't be stopped. But I think the unintended consequence is tons of copyright/distribution license violations or Tivoization.
A business will use gpl'd libraries to avoid having to make their own and then pass the whole thing off as their own. From there, they've got an advertising budget so they can easily drown out the buzz from a community-based solutions.
I know it happens in windows because some of the commands for a particular ssh server my employer was using were 1:1 openssl. I asked someone in the vendor's support and their canned response was "they made a clean-room implementation." Openssl is a shed-load of code. Tough coding too. I have serious doubts.
All of the moderators that rewarded this simplistic thinking haven't thought this one through enough.
* American products become cheaper to foreign markets. This helps with the trade imbalances we currently have.
Maintaining the view that reaching some sort of trade parity is a common good is still fiercely debated in economics. How many years has this been going on with no apparent harm? Don't get side tracked into other issues related to, but not dealing specifically with trade imbalance.
If it were the case that the U.S. had a booming manufacturing segment, you would indeed be correct. Long ago the common wisdom was the U.S. economy was becoming a service economy. Let's agree it is for a minute and keep reading.
* Foreign products become more expensive to American consumers, also helping with trade deficits.
Devaluing currency sets off an inflationary cycle. It makes everything imported more expensive. As a result, you will do some combination of buying less and demanding higher wages. Except, I thought a cheaper dollar was supposed to make it easier to sell american products?
* It discourages foreign workers from sneaking into the US. Getting $4.00 an hour is suddenly not so much compared to what they get paid in their home country.
Okay, enough with the veiled immigrant bashing. Americans don't take jobs that pay $4/hr. Instead of considering the idea that the huge number $4/hr jobs might be a problem, we all accept immigrants (illegal or otherwise) who work for $4/hr.
IMHO, cheap credit is a crack pipe the U.S. economy has been living off of for decades. The financial world knows that. They've been exporting investing dollars too. Americans won't control their own spending/saving and this is one of the consequences. China's economic/political policies have a role in this too, but the first place to look for blame is in the mirror.
I would argue that it works fine because the DMCA serves the media conglomerates to the detriment of all consumers.
Let's suspend the notion that there is an element of destruction in government for a few moments. It's a whole lot easier to have, at the bare minimum, a discussion about government and how it could possibly serve consumers.
Dieharder http://www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/dieharder.php is what I used.
I learned a heck of a lot working with dieharder especially considering my lack of mathematical acumen. The author and friends were unbelievably patient and helpful. In my book it's the best tool ever.
Debian package too!
If I went on any "5-star, all-expense paid trip to Singapore" at a vendor's expense I'm going to be--and I would deserve to be--fired in less time than it took me to write this note.
Assuming you are a full-time journalist, then you would be working at the last media outlet with any scruples whatsoever. You also probably get few, if any, product reviews, first-in-line product announcements too because your media would be considered too independent to guarantee a good review.
Why is this an issue to anyone? This is a simple matter of Legal doing their usual cover-all-bases NDA. Furthermore, all mainstream American media (I don't know about anywhere else) long ago abandoned the notion that they are some kind of moderating influence. e.g. the whole woodward/bernstein feet-on-the-street style reporting is a myth. What's left are a few long ago marginalized media entities attempting to cover stories with no cooperation from the story generators. Hardly a recipe for success in the media market.
Much like every other global company that wants to do progressively more business in the U.S., you must get the politicians on your side. That entails offices/plants so they can actually get meetings inside the political system. Otherwise, no one will give you the legislative time.
The parent post is right on and warrants 5+ informative moderation.
A monopoly, by itself, is nothing more...
No. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_maker
A concise, widely accepted and universally taught analysis of why monopolies are bad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadweight_loss The deadweight loss is what you and I lose in dollars and units under Microsoft's market control.
The first is legal; the second is not.
Let's leave "legal" and "illegal" to the lawyers and increasingly the politicians who control the DOJ.
Please divorce yourself from these politically expedient ideas. They directly harm you.
Let's not forget that being a monopoly is just fine by itself.
Monopolies destroy wealth, eliminate innovation, and, in Microsoft's case especially, destroy interoperability.
There is no good monopoly, Microsoft is one of many monopolies/duopolies/oligopolies that harm everyone.
Whoever modded this comment flamebait either isn't being very honest or isn't a parent.
While the comment drifts a bit, the basic idea is right on. The problem of short attention spans begins with parents letting the TV babysit their child.
Limited and structured television is fine. We use it to watch movies, travel shows and other stuff as a family, for a finite amount of time not to exceed the length of a movie or the television show. Why? Because there should be something to talk/laugh about afterwards. If it can't pass that simple test, it's time wasted.
Does my kid still ask to watch TV? Yes, she's a kid. But she's got other options including doing kid-parent stuff.
Step 1 to eliminating tv is getting rid of the giant screen whatever and getting a 17" or less and putting it in a cabinet that closes so it's not around.
Being human includes the capacity to believe ridiculous stories and perpetuate them.
It's much easier to blame something else (the media, military industrial complex, etc.) than it is for Americans to acknowledge they continually fail to participate in their own democracy.
All of the information needed for an American to independently evaluate what was being offered as reasons was, at minimum, available at a public library.
I hope more stories like this make it through moderation.
This information, and the consequences of it, leave no doubt Microsoft now meaningfully games the ISO process going forward.
If Microsoft did force their "standard" on people, how much would it cripple the marketplace?
It wouldn't cripple a market but their monopoly status continues to destroy wealth, eliminate efficiency through interoperability, and chill innovation. Your story clearly highlights the lack of interoperability and inefficiency achieved through forcing upgrades.
This issue is critical and I don't count Microsoft out for the count. It will not surprise me when they play more parliamentary tricks. It remains to be seen how much money it takes to buy an ISO standard.
Really? Graphics is the failure 100% of the time? Compared to my installation history across many systems, that is amazing.
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Beyond the atypical odd-ball hardware which is reasonable, I typically have fundamental installation problems. I'm not the only one either.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searc
Google is playing with the worst of the worst kind of competitor with the telcos and I doubt they have the finances much less the dirty tricks to pull it off.
I'm very interested in hearing how others think it will play out.
Good insight into my comment. I saw the flaw in my logic later.
I would call your notion that profit-seeking somehow redresses or creates accountability a misguided idea. Profit is the only motive. Not accountability. The point being that soon after privatization takes hold the previously public system with some (admittedly remote) chance of accountability then vanishes altogether and is replaced with profit, not accountability or efficiency.
I would call your second notion that the courts provide a stick to correct a business' actions a deeply misguided ideal. The only party that benefits in the courts is the lawyers.
In the mad rush to privatize government, the broader issue of a serious lack of oversight will become quite common.
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http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/
Private industries seem to be fairing better
It's reasonable to assume lots of data is being compromised because there is very little, if any regulation.
Given that data collection is an industry makes billions annually, I'd argue they behave like the tobacco companies. Cancer? What cancer? Addiction? Nah. That's a personal problem. Roughly translated to "Your personal data is safe with us!"
we need a system in place to make sure that when data breaches do occur
You aren't addressing the core issues though.
1. It's perfectly legal to collect personal information and resell it. Criminalize both issues and the "identity theft" problem improves dramatically.
2. It's perfectly legal to keep decades-old records available on-demand. This is the Data At Rest problem which is only getting bigger.
1. The source of "identity theft" is not the banks!!!!!!
There are private companies collecting all kinds of data about you and I. It's why you get junk snail mail when you buy a house or have a child to name two examples.
2. The notion of "identity theft" is a tactic to legitimate personal data warehousing.
It separates the Evil identity thieves and the Good identity vendors. Except the root of this evil is the companies and institutions collecting and storing your personal data for decades beyond it's useful period.
Please examine the issue more carefully before spouting quickie-mart solutions.
Parent statement is accurate. The troll mod is totally uncalled for.
It's more accurately described as well-polished propaganda. Clearly, Hon Han has hired Public Relations representatives for some other agenda.
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This story would lead me to believe they want to buy Western consumer electronics brands. http://investing.reuters.co.uk/news/articleinvest
Or maybe do it themselves: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB11847039518416927
Either way, this "story" is so light on facts and any objectivity whatsoever it hardly resembles journalism. Since the WSJ is "reporting" it, it will not be scrutinized.
They would be very wise to do more in Linux, but it's just not likely.
1. Worked with Adobe corporate types I can tell you the riskiest thing they've done in a LONG time is choosing a new restaurant for lunch.
2. They've got the Graphic Design market easily in hand world wide. Moreover, the mere discussion of alternatives to many people that use their tools every day is a thoughtcrime. Why screw that up by validating Linux? If they offer any of their desktop publishing software on linux, then the good Free desktop publishing tools and color management systems already available are the worst kind of competition.
3. "Linux" as a market size is unknown. The corporate types rely on market research for their quantifying Linux and there's no perception of a reliable source of this kind of data. Therefore, the market is ignored. It would be career suicide within Adobe to promote, much less discuss seat-of-the-pants prognostications.
"Hear! Hear!"