Surprised with all the negativity. Studying cryptic machines that change the way we view technology's historical progression and after years of work crafting a working replica hardly seems worthy of scorn.
Unused memory is quite valuable. For instance, on a server where it needs to be able to quickly allocate memory to process a given request. Using all available memory would thus require paging stuff out to free memory for (for instance) a web server process to finish a script or similar request.
Very inefficient.
You realize Linux does the exact same thing? Ever wonder what that 'cache' entry in top was trying to tell you?
Linux constantly loads things into memory on the off chance you're going to want to run foowidget then it won't have to load it off the disk.
When a running process has a need for more memory linux just dumps this cache and gives it to the process. No disk hit.
This 'using all the memory' approach lets you get some benefit from those gigs of ram that would otherwise be doing nothing. As to it's efficiency, well linux has been known to run a server or two before.
As an endnote, Vista has the same thing they call 'superfetch' and I imagine that this is what is being talked about in Windows 7
He worked at a little company called Eazel don't forget. That company created Nautilus the window manager which replaced sawfish in Gnome and is still used for every default gnome installation out there.
Essentially they just modify the executable itself rather than having the code and recompiling it. The types of people who do this also tend to be good at things like debugging programs by reading a raw core dump.
From the quintessential article on the matter:
"For this reason, Real Programmers are reluctant to actually edit a program that is close to working. They find it much easier to just patch the binary object code directly, using a wonderful program called SUPERZAP (or its equivalent on non-IBM machines). This works so well that many working programs on IBM systems bear no relation to the original Fortran code. In many cases, the original source code is no longer available. When it comes time to fix a program like this, no manager would even think of sending anything less than a Real Programmer to do the job-- no Quiche Eating structured programmer would even know where to start. This is called "job security"."
http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html
Where does he say that dynamic linking is "too hard"? The exact phrase is "too much to bear".
Did you ever consider that since its an embedded system that dynamic linking could cause real problems for it? Or do you just typically gloss over that simple, basic fact when you give out your highly esteemed advice to 'newbie programmers'?
Go back to your cute little web site where they'll suck you off and save/. the bother of your continued presence.
Keyword in the grandparent post is userland. He's not saying that there should be no security, he's saying that the premise of an application keeping other applications out of the operating system is flawed and should be a feature of the operating system itself.
As the car industry has known for years those are both very valid reasons!
Look at the import tuner market... non-functional body kits, huge spoilers on front wheel drive cars, 'carbon fibre' overlays for regular steel hoods, etc etc etc.
Supplying expensive equipment for the gullible is a very profitable business! Just ask the audiophiles!;) *ducks*
I'm curious how they are going to pay for the bandwidth to run such an endeavor. If the service is unreachable due to bandwidth issues then no matter how in demand it might be its not going to go anywhere. I'm sure that thepiratebay.org is a fairly high traffic site but essentially they are just serving lots of little static text files. Full, streaming video is going to be a bit of a jump from that.
I imagine they have some sort of person-network in place for bandwidth but how will that scale? Even things like topsites wouldn't use as much bandwidth as a youtube thing since they are hidden from the general public.
I liked the Minibosses alot more 5-6 years ago, I just don't think they've updated their sound very much. One band I am really excited about being at PAX is The Oneups. They are probably not to everyone's taste (their sound is a bit loungy except for certain songs) but they really rock.
I live in Olympia, already bought my PAX tickets. Going to be doing the 1-2 hour drive there and back for three days this August. Seems silly to pay for a hotel room being so close;)
Complete overreaction by the Digg administrators. Somebody saw this happening, looked at their complimentary HD-DVD Coalition coffee cup, and did something stupid.
Hopefully they will use this as an object lesson in how trying to silence problems by emulating Minitrue only leads to drama and madness.
Say what you will about Slashdot, but/. makes many other popular 'web2.0' content sites look just like a flash in the pan. Taco & co. at least know when not to do something.
When a large population of your consumers has been driven away by mediocre content and increasingly predatory legal action perhaps this issue should not be one's sole focus.
In a more general sense, of course content providers should be paid. Its even more of an issue with movies which take vast amounts more capital to create and market than a typical music album. The question is that if a) Radio has made it for 100 years on a free content delivery system, and b) Television has done much the same, why can't a movie distribution plan also be worked out?
Doubly perplexing to me is why there is any form of resistance to broadcasting television shows online. Update your advertisement payment systems for heaven's sake. Its a huge market that they are trying to quash. I don't think anyone reasonable is saying there shouldn't be advertisements in free content.
Off the top of my head I could say a two-tiered approach working for online video content. Tier 1 would be like broadcast television without the FCC censorship issues (at least if you're in the US). Free, with commercials to offset the cost. Tier 2 would be for those who are willing to spend either a subscription fee (per show, per network, per episode, whatever) or a one-time fee to watch the program with no commercials.
If you allow downloads, digitally watermark them so you can trace where they came from.
You are NEVER going to stop determined people from cracking your drm and infringing on your copyright. But most people just want to watch their favorite content, in the time and method they choose, and would prefer a sane and legal method of doing so.
What many don't realize is that the speed of light barrier is not a real detterent to how far individual humans or groups can travel within their lifetimes.
Due to time dilation the closer you travel to the speed of the light the slower your personal 'clock' ticks in comparison to things moving slower than you.
So if we designed a ship in the future that could go.99 of lightspeed the 4-5 lightyear trip may only take a few months of onship time, but 4 or 5 years will pass in total on their journey.
It would make exploring a real interesting thing. Everytime you step aboard a space ship, depending on distance traveled, you could be leaping 20 years or more into the future at the conclusion of your journey.
What kind of society would arise from this? What kind of people would take these journeys regularly? How would society handle the the difference between chronological age and biological age that would stem from this?
All interesting questions, none of which to I have answers.:)
This Web2.0 "Its not complete!!" attitude is a complete and total cop out. Its just a way to shirk responsibility for having to claim that anything they do works properly.
If a product has shipped (being available to your target audience for use would apply here) then it is not in Beta.
It is in fact a release. 'Beta' would have been what they did after 'Alpha', namely feature freeze and testing to make sure it works.
Why bring the monetary damage (I'd be interested to see how it was calculated in the first place) into the equation at all?
These are trifling amounts of money on the scale of government spending. 100k from the Navy and US Department of Energy? Yeah I'm sure they're feeling the 'loss'.
Hacking into government systems should be enough of a crime without throwing this wacky money figure into it all.
Its not MAC. MAC is something completely different standing for Media Access Control and is what your ethernet card uses to uniquely identify itself on the network.
It was a timing and tone issue. And the post to the opensuse dev list was just uncalled for, his widely syndicated blog would've been sufficient. He could have done all the same things, the same Open Ubuntu summit, and explain Canonical/Ubuntu's position on patents as the catalyst without taking this to such a personal level.
Shuttleworth has done a lot of good, and he's an intelligent guy. I don't think he should be burned in effigy for this, but it was a bad call.
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Surprised with all the negativity. Studying cryptic machines that change the way we view technology's historical progression and after years of work crafting a working replica hardly seems worthy of scorn.
Unused memory is quite valuable. For instance, on a server where it needs to be able to quickly allocate memory to process a given request. Using all available memory would thus require paging stuff out to free memory for (for instance) a web server process to finish a script or similar request.
Very inefficient.
You realize Linux does the exact same thing? Ever wonder what that 'cache' entry in top was trying to tell you?
Linux constantly loads things into memory on the off chance you're going to want to run foowidget then it won't have to load it off the disk.
When a running process has a need for more memory linux just dumps this cache and gives it to the process. No disk hit.
This 'using all the memory' approach lets you get some benefit from those gigs of ram that would otherwise be doing nothing. As to it's efficiency, well linux has been known to run a server or two before.
As an endnote, Vista has the same thing they call 'superfetch' and I imagine that this is what is being talked about in Windows 7
He worked at a little company called Eazel don't forget. That company created Nautilus the window manager which replaced sawfish in Gnome and is still used for every default gnome installation out there.
You mean, you have no idea. Don't project your own ignorance onto others.
Please explain and cite any published work that conclusively shows a complete theory of the environment.
this makes the assumption that everyone always has a car payment to make which is patently untrue.
Enjoy your two games.
Do all your projects fall within a single year then? Some take longer than 52 weeks til completion.
Essentially they just modify the executable itself rather than having the code and recompiling it. The types of people who do this also tend to be good at things like debugging programs by reading a raw core dump. From the quintessential article on the matter: "For this reason, Real Programmers are reluctant to actually edit a program that is close to working. They find it much easier to just patch the binary object code directly, using a wonderful program called SUPERZAP (or its equivalent on non-IBM machines). This works so well that many working programs on IBM systems bear no relation to the original Fortran code. In many cases, the original source code is no longer available. When it comes time to fix a program like this, no manager would even think of sending anything less than a Real Programmer to do the job-- no Quiche Eating structured programmer would even know where to start. This is called "job security"." http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html
How in the hell is this a troll? Moderators are cracked out these days.
They said all the same things about television and we see how that's worked out.
Sadly for much of the "masses", they do not value education and do not want anything to do with it.
Where does he say that dynamic linking is "too hard"? The exact phrase is "too much to bear". Did you ever consider that since its an embedded system that dynamic linking could cause real problems for it? Or do you just typically gloss over that simple, basic fact when you give out your highly esteemed advice to 'newbie programmers'? Go back to your cute little web site where they'll suck you off and save /. the bother of your continued presence.
Keyword in the grandparent post is userland. He's not saying that there should be no security, he's saying that the premise of an application keeping other applications out of the operating system is flawed and should be a feature of the operating system itself.
As the car industry has known for years those are both very valid reasons!
Look at the import tuner market... non-functional body kits, huge spoilers on front wheel drive cars, 'carbon fibre' overlays for regular steel hoods, etc etc etc.
Supplying expensive equipment for the gullible is a very profitable business! Just ask the audiophiles! ;) *ducks*
I'm curious how they are going to pay for the bandwidth to run such an endeavor. If the service is unreachable due to bandwidth issues then no matter how in demand it might be its not going to go anywhere. I'm sure that thepiratebay.org is a fairly high traffic site but essentially they are just serving lots of little static text files. Full, streaming video is going to be a bit of a jump from that.
I imagine they have some sort of person-network in place for bandwidth but how will that scale? Even things like topsites wouldn't use as much bandwidth as a youtube thing since they are hidden from the general public.
I'm perplexed.
2 - 3 = -1
-1 + 1 = 0
Hilarity ensues.
I liked the Minibosses alot more 5-6 years ago, I just don't think they've updated their sound very much. One band I am really excited about being at PAX is The Oneups. They are probably not to everyone's taste (their sound is a bit loungy except for certain songs) but they really rock.
I live in Olympia, already bought my PAX tickets. Going to be doing the 1-2 hour drive there and back for three days this August. Seems silly to pay for a hotel room being so close ;)
Complete overreaction by the Digg administrators. Somebody saw this happening, looked at their complimentary HD-DVD Coalition coffee cup, and did something stupid.
/. makes many other popular 'web2.0' content sites look just like a flash in the pan. Taco & co. at least know when not to do something.
Hopefully they will use this as an object lesson in how trying to silence problems by emulating Minitrue only leads to drama and madness.
Say what you will about Slashdot, but
Much the same here at Evergreen in WA State.
;)
I haven't seen or heard of any plagiarism while I've been here.
Maybe its just something that tiny liberal-arts colleges share.
Though I wouldn't call Evergreen ultra-intellectual
When a large population of your consumers has been driven away by mediocre content and increasingly predatory legal action perhaps this issue should not be one's sole focus.
In a more general sense, of course content providers should be paid. Its even more of an issue with movies which take vast amounts more capital to create and market than a typical music album. The question is that if a) Radio has made it for 100 years on a free content delivery system, and b) Television has done much the same, why can't a movie distribution plan also be worked out?
Doubly perplexing to me is why there is any form of resistance to broadcasting television shows online. Update your advertisement payment systems for heaven's sake. Its a huge market that they are trying to quash. I don't think anyone reasonable is saying there shouldn't be advertisements in free content.
Off the top of my head I could say a two-tiered approach working for online video content. Tier 1 would be like broadcast television without the FCC censorship issues (at least if you're in the US). Free, with commercials to offset the cost. Tier 2 would be for those who are willing to spend either a subscription fee (per show, per network, per episode, whatever) or a one-time fee to watch the program with no commercials.
If you allow downloads, digitally watermark them so you can trace where they came from.
You are NEVER going to stop determined people from cracking your drm and infringing on your copyright. But most people just want to watch their favorite content, in the time and method they choose, and would prefer a sane and legal method of doing so.
I know I would. Sign me up.
What many don't realize is that the speed of light barrier is not a real detterent to how far individual humans or groups can travel within their lifetimes.
.99 of lightspeed the 4-5 lightyear trip may only take a few months of onship time, but 4 or 5 years will pass in total on their journey.
:)
Due to time dilation the closer you travel to the speed of the light the slower your personal 'clock' ticks in comparison to things moving slower than you.
So if we designed a ship in the future that could go
It would make exploring a real interesting thing. Everytime you step aboard a space ship, depending on distance traveled, you could be leaping 20 years or more into the future at the conclusion of your journey.
What kind of society would arise from this? What kind of people would take these journeys regularly? How would society handle the the difference between chronological age and biological age that would stem from this?
All interesting questions, none of which to I have answers.
Whatever.
This Web2.0 "Its not complete!!" attitude is a complete and total cop out. Its just a way to shirk responsibility for having to claim that anything they do works properly.
If a product has shipped (being available to your target audience for use would apply here) then it is not in Beta.
It is in fact a release. 'Beta' would have been what they did after 'Alpha', namely feature freeze and testing to make sure it works.
> And technically, the sun does provide all energy and gravity for us to live off.
Energy sure.
But, a bit pendantically, without the Earth's own gravity we would have a much harder time walking about!
Why bring the monetary damage (I'd be interested to see how it was calculated in the first place) into the equation at all? These are trifling amounts of money on the scale of government spending. 100k from the Navy and US Department of Energy? Yeah I'm sure they're feeling the 'loss'. Hacking into government systems should be enough of a crime without throwing this wacky money figure into it all.
Gahhh....
The short-hand for Macintosh is: Mac
Its not MAC. MAC is something completely different standing for Media Access Control and is what your ethernet card uses to uniquely identify itself on the network.
It was a timing and tone issue. And the post to the opensuse dev list was just uncalled for, his widely syndicated blog would've been sufficient. He could have done all the same things, the same Open Ubuntu summit, and explain Canonical/Ubuntu's position on patents as the catalyst without taking this to such a personal level. Shuttleworth has done a lot of good, and he's an intelligent guy. I don't think he should be burned in effigy for this, but it was a bad call.