If by hurt you mean drop a few ranks in a totally artificial chart created solely because someone fancied creating it then superb.
Somehow I don't think this will be affecting Google's bottom line... unless I'm one of the tiny minority of the 2 billion people who don't check popularity before picking which engine to search for picture's of kittens with amusing text overlays.
the GP32/GP2X is exactly that... apart from it doesn't make any serious games company think anything because it is incredibly niche and the hardware isn't very good.
apart from it's impossible to "stream" data into the wow interface in that manner. if you managed to do so then that would certainly have to use a method that would be 'illegal' (in an addon sense)
1) see a post notifying/. of a Microsoft product
2) find a way to weave an underlying issue to do with MS being overly competitive somehow even though they are the 97th company to release such a product
3) ??
4) there is no step 4
Next Generation has very, very good news for RPG fans
So now we are hyping things before they even start production. Wake me in Q4 2009 when we have proof that it might not suck.
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I imagine many people will bite here, however this is not a troll post.
Having worked in web development for many years now, I really find that, today, Javascript is a solution looking for a problem to solve. It seems to have only legacy relevance to today's development requirements.
AJAX? Why?
Well, I guess in the 'war' between Gmail and Hotmail, fancy AJAX front ends might make something of a difference, if all other things are pretty even, however for your average developer, how does it apply.
Yes, some people might get a bit of internet fame for creating some bit of software that has rounded corners and gradients, and you can update stuff without the page refreshing, but in my development cycles if I were to propose this:
Planning Phase Development Phase Testing Phase (now we have a working, accessible application) Development Phase 2 (AJAX it up while maintaining accessibility) Testing Phase 2 Release
I would be having serious questions asked of me in terms of whether the extra time and cost would ever justify the "benefits". Bear in mind that when we have discussed AJAX implementations at work the first response was "well, aren't people kind of used to page refreshing now anyway? so aren't we potentially confusing people the other way? They expect a page refresh as an indicator of something having changed or happened".
"If my boss used this tone with me, I would quit the job."
If you were chucking code into a major public release candidate 2 weeks before launch, I'm sure your quitting window would be rather short as you would be fired before too long.
No one involved is a child; suck it up, do some push-ups if required, and make sure you do things right next time.
normally i wouldnt bite, but you truely are an idiot among us normal men.
If I have a TV i *have* to pay my License, therefore that can be considered a control. I am not paying more TV License costs due to the existence of this project.
Clearly, someone allowing you to to download something not legally is far better than having to illegally download it, of course it isn't for some sub-normal social group who supplement their failing lives by thinking that sticking one over on the law will fill some of that void.
If you had decided to read the post properly, or even familiarise yourself with this project at all, you would know that the Beeb are hoping to release their archives in the long run. Archives doesn't mean something was was shown yesterday moron.
Having only just managed to ween my co-workers off a ton of needless javascript in their applications 'improvements' in web technologies such as AJAX are a concern to me. Having read all about 'Web 2.0' technologies, I'm left to wonder where the business case for all this while STILL maintaining standards in accessibility comes from?
Please note: accessibility means equal access for ALL, it is not a term to differentiate disabled internet users from their able-bodied peers.
So now we have we have to use libraries that work for IE and every other browser separately, we then have rewrite it all for people using accessibility aids that often use scraping techniques to get content from the page and wont update unless the page refreshes, so we have to write a legacy version anyway (of course, you can make the call that the chance of getting sued is low enough not to bother).
Before people say we have to write a ton of code to account for different browsers and accessibility combinations, I work supplying web apps to public sector education bodies and none of my applications require wild cul-de-sacs of code for special scenarios.
We have only just started mastering equal access for all in web applications as it is, the last thing we need is a new generation of web developers who think that "omg cool functionality kthx" > accessibility
so when are car companies going to be told to put limiters on all their cars set to the max speed limit in that country because, you know if they allow me break the law by speeding then obviously i have no choice but to do it.
Clearly you didn't even read the whole summing up, let alone the article.
They are paying the same price for their desktops but as part of that their single license with Novell means that whatever else they are using (Zenworks, Netware or whatever) costs are greatly reduced. Good use of purchasing power IMO.
What it is trying to do (from what I can see) is work with what is available now and turn it into a superior user experience from install through to every day use. This is where most distros fail. They assume the user will jump through hoops to get the benefits of a stable desktop.
News flash: they wont.
Most users only care that their desktop works for 1-3hrs some evenings and weekends, not weeks of uptime, so they don't always have the problems with stability that more demanding users encounter.
They don't want to go through a list of thousands of badly named packages working out which ones are the best web/email/word processing.
They certainly don't want to ever have to know what a dependency is.
Also, shockingly for the KDE fanboys, not everyone gives a shit about buttons that look like glass or gel, they want an interface that feels organised and sensible which, though I was a long term Gnome hater, I feel Gnome has matured to a lot faster than KDE who seem to be purely focused on blue skies rather than perfecting what they have.
I have never been as keen to switch my laptop to linux since I've had Ubuntu installed as a VM (though as it auto configured to the screen of my laptop I can run it full screen with no noticable performance degredation compared to the host OS which is WinXP so I can indulge my WoW addiction).
To sum up, I guess, it has a maturity of approach, and this is the single thing that means 99% of other distros will fall by the way-side
anything involving lots of javascript will only be the future of the user Internet.
The corporate Internet will wonder whether instant feedback when people have been used to non-instant feedback for years on the net already will be worth having to develop and test 2x the funcationality (with + without javascript) to avoid being the test case in 508/DDA discrimination lawsuits.
you have to do is go to their website and signup. I know because I get 3-5 of them a day in my inbox
remember that 75% of the people on the internet only vaguely know what a firewall or AV program does, let alone know to google their way to a companies website so they could sign up to be made aware of a virus alert when they know nothing about what a virus really is or what they would do about it.
If this system adds even a little bit to the education and awareness of the problems faced when you have a PC connected to the net then i say it's worth it.
The store also reports 0% of such transactions being fraudulent
in other news, a survey of the first 5000 apache users reported 0% suscessful intrusion attempts during a trial period.
the system is obviously not used enough to make it worth spending a lot of time figuring out ways to exploit it... once it is the only way to shop then we would quickly see how secure the system really is
With more pollution and the alleged heating of the Earth won't this will create more, dirtier clouds?
Clouds that contain higher than normal amounts of pollution particles should be more reflective than cleaner clouds, and so more sunlight will be reflected before it reaches the lower 'smog' zones of the atmosphere and so should not warm as much.
Slashdot Mirror
does rubyforge, for example, host any non-ruby projects?
If SCO has taught us anything it's that you don't have to tell anyone the details, even the judge.
If by hurt you mean drop a few ranks in a totally artificial chart created solely because someone fancied creating it then superb.
Somehow I don't think this will be affecting Google's bottom line... unless I'm one of the tiny minority of the 2 billion people who don't check popularity before picking which engine to search for picture's of kittens with amusing text overlays.
the GP32/GP2X is exactly that... apart from it doesn't make any serious games company think anything because it is incredibly niche and the hardware isn't very good.
Bill: that's the dumbest fucking idea I've heard since I've been at Microsoft. You: You mean like the internet, Bill?
apart from it's impossible to "stream" data into the wow interface in that manner. if you managed to do so then that would certainly have to use a method that would be 'illegal' (in an addon sense)
1) see a post notifying /. of a Microsoft product
2) find a way to weave an underlying issue to do with MS being overly competitive somehow even though they are the 97th company to release such a product
3) ??
4) there is no step 4
So now we are hyping things before they even start production. Wake me in Q4 2009 when we have proof that it might not suck.
I imagine many people will bite here, however this is not a troll post.
Having worked in web development for many years now, I really find that, today, Javascript is a solution looking for a problem to solve. It seems to have only legacy relevance to today's development requirements.
AJAX? Why?
Well, I guess in the 'war' between Gmail and Hotmail, fancy AJAX front ends might make something of a difference, if all other things are pretty even, however for your average developer, how does it apply.
Yes, some people might get a bit of internet fame for creating some bit of software that has rounded corners and gradients, and you can update stuff without the page refreshing, but in my development cycles if I were to propose this:
Planning Phase
Development Phase
Testing Phase
(now we have a working, accessible application)
Development Phase 2 (AJAX it up while maintaining accessibility)
Testing Phase 2
Release
I would be having serious questions asked of me in terms of whether the extra time and cost would ever justify the "benefits". Bear in mind that when we have discussed AJAX implementations at work the first response was "well, aren't people kind of used to page refreshing now anyway? so aren't we potentially confusing people the other way? They expect a page refresh as an indicator of something having changed or happened".
Flame on... I'm gone (but not very sweet)
amihotornot, ratemypoo et al. People have *plenty* of time to burn. Welcome to the internet.
"If my boss used this tone with me, I would quit the job."
If you were chucking code into a major public release candidate 2 weeks before launch, I'm sure your quitting window would be rather short as you would be fired before too long.
No one involved is a child; suck it up, do some push-ups if required, and make sure you do things right next time.
I can't even spell cunctipotent, let alone argue with it.
:(
I had to copy and paste there
"lets go and kill some mobs" doesn't sound right... but I couldn't bring myself to say pwn, so I decided to just say prawn. much nicer.
normally i wouldnt bite, but you truely are an idiot among us normal men.
If I have a TV i *have* to pay my License, therefore that can be considered a control. I am not paying more TV License costs due to the existence of this project.
Clearly, someone allowing you to to download something not legally is far better than having to illegally download it, of course it isn't for some sub-normal social group who supplement their failing lives by thinking that sticking one over on the law will fill some of that void.
If you had decided to read the post properly, or even familiarise yourself with this project at all, you would know that the Beeb are hoping to release their archives in the long run. Archives doesn't mean something was was shown yesterday moron.
No, I know that once business is applied to IT something always suffers, and judging by 90% of web systems I inspect or see, it is the accessibility.
Having only just managed to ween my co-workers off a ton of needless javascript in their applications 'improvements' in web technologies such as AJAX are a concern to me. Having read all about 'Web 2.0' technologies, I'm left to wonder where the business case for all this while STILL maintaining standards in accessibility comes from?
Please note: accessibility means equal access for ALL, it is not a term to differentiate disabled internet users from their able-bodied peers.
So now we have we have to use libraries that work for IE and every other browser separately, we then have rewrite it all for people using accessibility aids that often use scraping techniques to get content from the page and wont update unless the page refreshes, so we have to write a legacy version anyway (of course, you can make the call that the chance of getting sued is low enough not to bother).
Before people say we have to write a ton of code to account for different browsers and accessibility combinations, I work supplying web apps to public sector education bodies and none of my applications require wild cul-de-sacs of code for special scenarios.
We have only just started mastering equal access for all in web applications as it is, the last thing we need is a new generation of web developers who think that "omg cool functionality kthx" > accessibility
so when are car companies going to be told to put limiters on all their cars set to the max speed limit in that country because, you know if they allow me break the law by speeding then obviously i have no choice but to do it.
Clearly you didn't even read the whole summing up, let alone the article.
They are paying the same price for their desktops but as part of that their single license with Novell means that whatever else they are using (Zenworks, Netware or whatever) costs are greatly reduced. Good use of purchasing power IMO.
What it is trying to do (from what I can see) is work with what is available now and turn it into a superior user experience from install through to every day use. This is where most distros fail. They assume the user will jump through hoops to get the benefits of a stable desktop.
News flash: they wont.
Most users only care that their desktop works for 1-3hrs some evenings and weekends, not weeks of uptime, so they don't always have the problems with stability that more demanding users encounter.
They don't want to go through a list of thousands of badly named packages working out which ones are the best web/email/word processing.
They certainly don't want to ever have to know what a dependency is.
Also, shockingly for the KDE fanboys, not everyone gives a shit about buttons that look like glass or gel, they want an interface that feels organised and sensible which, though I was a long term Gnome hater, I feel Gnome has matured to a lot faster than KDE who seem to be purely focused on blue skies rather than perfecting what they have.
I have never been as keen to switch my laptop to linux since I've had Ubuntu installed as a VM (though as it auto configured to the screen of my laptop I can run it full screen with no noticable performance degredation compared to the host OS which is WinXP so I can indulge my WoW addiction).
To sum up, I guess, it has a maturity of approach, and this is the single thing that means 99% of other distros will fall by the way-side
anything involving lots of javascript will only be the future of the user Internet.
The corporate Internet will wonder whether instant feedback when people have been used to non-instant feedback for years on the net already will be worth having to develop and test 2x the funcationality (with + without javascript) to avoid being the test case in 508/DDA discrimination lawsuits.
correct, he has retired 2 or 3 times already only to come back as he can't keep away from the studio.
The next film will supposedly be his last, however I can't imagine he won't have some kind of role in all ghibli works till his last days.
you have to do is go to their website and signup. I know because I get 3-5 of them a day in my inbox
remember that 75% of the people on the internet only vaguely know what a firewall or AV program does, let alone know to google their way to a companies website so they could sign up to be made aware of a virus alert when they know nothing about what a virus really is or what they would do about it.
If this system adds even a little bit to the education and awareness of the problems faced when you have a PC connected to the net then i say it's worth it.
a Microsoft spokesperson later said that they would look at fixing extorsion and racketeering problems in Version 2 of their conversation.
The store also reports 0% of such transactions being fraudulent
in other news, a survey of the first 5000 apache users reported 0% suscessful intrusion attempts during a trial period.
the system is obviously not used enough to make it worth spending a lot of time figuring out ways to exploit it... once it is the only way to shop then we would quickly see how secure the system really is
With more pollution and the alleged heating of the Earth won't this will create more, dirtier clouds?
Clouds that contain higher than normal amounts of pollution particles should be more reflective than cleaner clouds, and so more sunlight will be reflected before it reaches the lower 'smog' zones of the atmosphere and so should not warm as much.
Would this then act as a natural balance?