It's not a matter of blaming Windows admins, it's a matter of blaming incompetent or half-assed admins in general Just because it works doesn't mean it's set up 100% correctly. What we are seeing here is the effects of badly implemented and/or managed systems.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a MS apologist. Managing/securing MS systems is a nightmare (give me Netware and eDirectory any day) but you really DO have to read the manuals and invest the time to learn the systems intimately.
Even within my own organization I see a wide range of abilities and thoroughness - from completely oblivious and ignorant to never-do-anything-wrong superstars. That's just reality.
Wrong.
I'm administaer WSUS 3.0 in my company and the desktop search app was not auto approved or autoinstalled. As I've said in other posts, if WSUS released the patch, it's the admins fault, pure and simple.
And to that I say bullshit. What we have here is a case of idiot admins. Very,very few people are truly capable of being good network admins. If you set things up correctly, WSUS and PC's WILL NOT update without approval.
I bet that guy is MS certified too. You're correct. In WSUS, it appears as an available update, but does not install unless you approve it. This guy probably had approve/install everything by default.
That's strange. I've been a Cablevision customer since 1996 for TV, 2000 or so for Internet, and 2004 for phone. In all those years, I've had service drop out maybe 3 times for TV and twice for phone/internet. BYW, I'm in northern NJ.
I remember flying to Europe as a kid several times back in the early 70's. Back then, people dressed up to fly. Hot food was served on real dishes and you used real cutlery. You even got to choose which entree you wanted. Flying these days is like riding a slightly improved 3rd world bus. I can see the day when people bring their goats and chickens on the plane.
You don't have to be a genius to realize that not everyone get a woody from AP Physics.
You've touched on an important point here. There seems to be a streak of anti-intellectualism in the US population. Being smart was uncool even way back in the late 70's and early 80's when I attended high school.
I've also noticed that bias against academic achievement seems to correlate inversely with economic class.
I was born in 1964. Both my parents worked. I knew kids with two working parents, one working parent, and single parents. In all cases, their social and academic achievement was correlated more with parental attitude and effectiveness rather than how many parents were st home.
My parents never volunteered one second of their time to school. What they did, however, was set high expectations (academic, behavioral, moral, etc). Amazingly, they also trusted me. I never showed them a report card after I entered high school. Yet, I was in the Honor Society, advanced classes, etc.
Having one parent stay home really doesn't make a diffference if that parent is ineffective. I've seen plenty of families with stay at home mothers where the kids are pure undisciplined evil.
You revealed your bias when you mentioned home schooling.
As with all issues related to children, how they turn out is a function of innate personality, environment, and parenting effectiveness.
And just to toss out some useless anecdotes: - I've met some home schooled kids who are headed for therapy later in life (kooky parents = kooky kids) - you see my bias. - both my kids, who were in childcare since infancy (now teen and preteen) are smart, kind, respectful and have no socially undesireable traits.
If Automatic Updates was turned off, how exactly did Microsoft reach out to this one PC, enable Automatic Updates, and then force downloads onto the PC?
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It's not a matter of blaming Windows admins, it's a matter of blaming incompetent or half-assed admins in general Just because it works doesn't mean it's set up 100% correctly. What we are seeing here is the effects of badly implemented and/or managed systems.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a MS apologist. Managing/securing MS systems is a nightmare (give me Netware and eDirectory any day) but you really DO have to read the manuals and invest the time to learn the systems intimately.
Even within my own organization I see a wide range of abilities and thoroughness - from completely oblivious and ignorant to never-do-anything-wrong superstars. That's just reality.
Moderated as Flamebait? Somebody out there is quite sensitive. I guess the truth hurts.
Sounds to me like there should be a witch hunt. Somebody didn't properly set up group policy and WSUS.
Holy crap, I can't type to save my life.
Wrong. I'm administaer WSUS 3.0 in my company and the desktop search app was not auto approved or autoinstalled. As I've said in other posts, if WSUS released the patch, it's the admins fault, pure and simple.
And to that I say bullshit. What we have here is a case of idiot admins. Very,very few people are truly capable of being good network admins. If you set things up correctly, WSUS and PC's WILL NOT update without approval.
I bet that guy is MS certified too. You're correct. In WSUS, it appears as an available update, but does not install unless you approve it. This guy probably had approve/install everything by default.
Yah, but many of today's pedestrian sedans outperform most 60's muscle cars in straight line acceleration.
That's strange. I've been a Cablevision customer since 1996 for TV, 2000 or so for Internet, and 2004 for phone. In all those years, I've had service drop out maybe 3 times for TV and twice for phone/internet. BYW, I'm in northern NJ.
I remember flying to Europe as a kid several times back in the early 70's. Back then, people dressed up to fly. Hot food was served on real dishes and you used real cutlery. You even got to choose which entree you wanted. Flying these days is like riding a slightly improved 3rd world bus. I can see the day when people bring their goats and chickens on the plane.
Indeed, I read about Sun's project in a Scientific American article a few months back.
It was doomed from the beginning. They used Lucas (Prince of Darkness) electical parts.
Amen brother. Well said.
You've touched on an important point here. There seems to be a streak of anti-intellectualism in the US population. Being smart was uncool even way back in the late 70's and early 80's when I attended high school.
I've also noticed that bias against academic achievement seems to correlate inversely with economic class.
I was born in 1964. Both my parents worked. I knew kids with two working parents, one working parent, and single parents. In all cases, their social and academic achievement was correlated more with parental attitude and effectiveness rather than how many parents were st home.
My parents never volunteered one second of their time to school. What they did, however, was set high expectations (academic, behavioral, moral, etc). Amazingly, they also trusted me. I never showed them a report card after I entered high school. Yet, I was in the Honor Society, advanced classes, etc.
Having one parent stay home really doesn't make a diffference if that parent is ineffective. I've seen plenty of families with stay at home mothers where the kids are pure undisciplined evil.
You can be sure the 22 year old male will be salivating at the prospect of screwing underage girls who get star struck by "older men."
Troll
The PDA you want will show up the same time a modern version of Lotus Agenda is released.
I miss Agenda.
In other words, don't hold your breath.
Amen Brother! (or Sister)
You revealed your bias when you mentioned home schooling.
As with all issues related to children, how they turn out is a function of innate personality, environment, and parenting effectiveness.
And just to toss out some useless anecdotes:
- I've met some home schooled kids who are headed for therapy later in life (kooky parents = kooky kids) - you see my bias.
- both my kids, who were in childcare since infancy (now teen and preteen) are smart, kind, respectful and have no socially undesireable traits.
Actually, I'd lean the other way and say every phone should shut off once it's in a car.
From which country? Mexican Spanish is different from Cuban Spanish which is different from Argentinian Spanish, etc etc.
I'm curious. What file did you get that list from? The WindowsUpdate.log file on XP isn't structured like that.
It seems very likely to me that this evil act by Microsoft is really the result of someone who doesn't understand how to configure automatic updates.
If Automatic Updates was turned off, how exactly did Microsoft reach out to this one PC, enable Automatic Updates, and then force downloads onto the PC?