"The very highest performance and largest clusters on the planet are running Linux, so what is this nonsense about no scaling or performance. Oracle and SAP and many other enterprise grade vendors are moving their software to Linux. The high performance SAN and archival tools are running on Linux. IBM is running Linux on mainframes"
Not to dispute that Linux isn't capable, but the popularity of Linux on very high performance clusters might just happen to be because IBM is responsible for building so many of them!
Ditto the other poster, you couldn't resist the bait on Solaris. Solaris will kick some Linux and BSD butt for certain applications, however, it is relatively unfriendly as a desktop OS. Hopefully when OpenSolaris.org "opens for business" this week, we'll have a better package manager and userland applications. IMHO, the Solaris kernel is simply one of the, the not THE, best kernel currently available.
Fedora still kicks Debian butt at *automatically* configuring more strange hardware than Debain - although only important if you happen to have some slightly esoteric hardware. Also SELinux is much simpler to setup in Fedora. A few more things along these lines make INSTALLING Fedora easier for the novice, but Debian still is tops at MAINTAINING a running Linux system IMHO.
I'm an ordinary person who'd like to be able to run FreeBSD 5.4 on my Sun Java Workstation W2100z, but guess what, I can't due to the same issues as described in this review.
The net result, losing another potential FreeBSD user/developer.
"... a là Hackers, that's bad ju ju. Anyone reading it will get this picture of Angelina Jolie naked on the kid's bed as the SWATs rammed the door. Many, many, more would be hackers tonight..."
"I'm amazed at how many people still think that any performance gap (real or perceived) actually matters. The majority of your PC's performance now comes from the size of the bus, the transfer rate of your disks, and how much memory you have. No one really *needs* a 5GHz processor to run a wordprocessor, email client, MP3 player, or even something more intensive like a graphics editor, video editor, or sound studio. Even games now rely far more heavily on the GPU than they do the CPU."
Of couse they need a 5 GHz processor! They will need it to run Ad-Aware, Spybot Seach & Destroy, Norton Antivirus, ZoneAlarm, Microsoft's "Security Console" and maybe a user application or two.
" This sounds like an opportunity for someone to fill in the gaps that Apple left, the way Codetek Virtual Desktop or Unsanity Shapeshifter have. The Spotlight configuration files are relatively simple, so it doesn't sound like it would be difficult to produce a "Spotlight Enhancer"."
You mean a new "HID Spotlight"? Or, perhaps, "Xenon Spotlight"?
I do some sideline consulting for small local businesses, and I always recommend to stay away from wireless if they can. If they can't, I tell them about the expense of good equipment and the need to have it checked and updated frequently to avoid such security breaches. This, in turn, is usually enough of a deterrent.
"Virtualization is also going to be the way hardware vendors will keep the server price up - suddenly very powerful servers will start making sense. The questions is - who will win - Xen, UML or Linux VServer. We're banking on VServer.:-)"
You forgot about Solaris "Zones" and FreeBSD "Jails"!
I think Solaris 10 will really take off once it's finished later this year and ZFS/Zones/Janus et. al. are tweaked and released...
"No mention of it in the release notes, I wonder if USB finally works properly on the VIA CLE266 / VT8235 chipset. That's the only thing that keeps me on Linux."
" Somehow I doubt that a company with over 30,000 employees and billions of dollars in cash is going to go belly up in a year."
Exactly.
Sun is really starting to look much more attractive to me at least. In fact, I've recently purchased a very nice Sun Java Workstation W2100z this past week at an AMAZING price from Sun and am looking forward to migrating from Linux to Solaris 10. Probably not a popular thing to say here, but do your own tests...this new setup should be fantastic and I'm seeing some other smart changes to/within Sun Microsystems.
Of course, it depends on your definition of 'freedom.' Still, the CDDL isn't a bad license. Do I like it as much as GPL or BSD? No. But it still isn't THAT bad. Besited I don't mind paying a reasonable price to further support development or a company of a good product.
I'm sure we'll disagree on this, but what do I know. Unlike most on this forum, I think the BSD license is more 'free' than the GPL.
Depends on your use. Ubuntu is also my primary home OS now, but that will change to Solaris at the end of the month when some new hardware arrives (as good a time to convert as any).
If you like Ubuntu and it works for you, great, keep it. However, I choose to learn more about Solaris as it offers many things not available in Ubuntu...or most any Linux at this point. Zones, Dtrace, ZFS (soon), Janus (soon), MUCH better SMP support IMHO [will go nicely with my W2100z soon!], StarOffice (it is better than OpenOffice if only slightly), etc... and I won't be losing anything "only" available on Linux.
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"Pro is great as a low end workstaion"
So you wouldn't put anything on workstation above XP on the low end. Interesting.
FreeBSD, Solaris 10, or Linux all shine as high-end workstations - typically dictated by the applications you'd need to run.
"The very highest performance and largest clusters on the planet are running Linux, so what is this nonsense about no scaling or performance. Oracle and SAP and many other enterprise grade vendors are moving their software to Linux. The high performance SAN and archival tools are running on Linux. IBM is running Linux on mainframes"
Not to dispute that Linux isn't capable, but the popularity of Linux on very high performance clusters might just happen to be because IBM is responsible for building so many of them!
Ditto the other poster, you couldn't resist the bait on Solaris. Solaris will kick some Linux and BSD butt for certain applications, however, it is relatively unfriendly as a desktop OS. Hopefully when OpenSolaris.org "opens for business" this week, we'll have a better package manager and userland applications. IMHO, the Solaris kernel is simply one of the, the not THE, best kernel currently available.
Fedora still kicks Debian butt at *automatically* configuring more strange hardware than Debain - although only important if you happen to have some slightly esoteric hardware. Also SELinux is much simpler to setup in Fedora. A few more things along these lines make INSTALLING Fedora easier for the novice, but Debian still is tops at MAINTAINING a running Linux system IMHO.
I'm an ordinary person who'd like to be able to run FreeBSD 5.4 on my Sun Java Workstation W2100z, but guess what, I can't due to the same issues as described in this review.
The net result, losing another potential FreeBSD user/developer.
Intel's new thermal solution is now apparent!
" ... a là Hackers, that's bad ju ju. Anyone reading it will get this picture of Angelina Jolie naked on the kid's bed as the SWATs rammed the door. Many, many, more would be hackers tonight..."
"Hack the Planet!"
..."Bill's Computer", "Bill's Desktop", and most importantly, "Bill's Wallet"
Is this the first hint that Zalman has merged with Pfizer, makers of Viagra?
" Firing somebody for trying something new? You will soon have a scared, non-productive staff base."
Calm down. It's okay. That's SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] in all forms of government!
"I'm amazed at how many people still think that any performance gap (real or perceived) actually matters. The majority of your PC's performance now comes from the size of the bus, the transfer rate of your disks, and how much memory you have. No one really *needs* a 5GHz processor to run a wordprocessor, email client, MP3 player, or even something more intensive like a graphics editor, video editor, or sound studio. Even games now rely far more heavily on the GPU than they do the CPU."
Of couse they need a 5 GHz processor! They will need it to run Ad-Aware, Spybot Seach & Destroy, Norton Antivirus, ZoneAlarm, Microsoft's "Security Console" and maybe a user application or two.
" This sounds like an opportunity for someone to fill in the gaps that Apple left, the way Codetek Virtual Desktop or Unsanity Shapeshifter have. The Spotlight configuration files are relatively simple, so it doesn't sound like it would be difficult to produce a "Spotlight Enhancer"."
You mean a new "HID Spotlight"? Or, perhaps, "Xenon Spotlight"?
Indeed many CPUs are made in either Germany or Malaysia. Also, who said Cuba was buying Microsoft products?
Boeing is smart.
I do some sideline consulting for small local businesses, and I always recommend to stay away from wireless if they can. If they can't, I tell them about the expense of good equipment and the need to have it checked and updated frequently to avoid such security breaches. This, in turn, is usually enough of a deterrent.
Hell, what one less wire?
"They [the Chinese Government] think Microsoft may have had the Pentagon place backdoors into Windows to be used in times of war."
No wonder Windows is so screwed up! It's the Pentagon's software product???
"Virtualization is also going to be the way hardware vendors will keep the server price up - suddenly very powerful servers will start making sense. The questions is - who will win - Xen, UML or Linux VServer. We're banking on VServer. :-)"
You forgot about Solaris "Zones" and FreeBSD "Jails"!
I think Solaris 10 will really take off once it's finished later this year and ZFS/Zones/Janus et. al. are tweaked and released...
Just like they teach in high school, abstinence is the safest way to protect yourself from Windows!
"it doesnt run on athlon/p4 ant cant run/runs like shit on lower. gee. thanks MS"
High speed shit is still shit, therefore, it doesn't matter how fast XP runs because it's still be shit.
"No mention of it in the release notes, I wonder if USB finally works properly on the VIA CLE266 / VT8235 chipset. That's the only thing that keeps me on Linux."
Does any VIA chipset actually work properly?
" Somehow I doubt that a company with over 30,000 employees and billions of dollars in cash is going to go belly up in a year."
Exactly.
Sun is really starting to look much more attractive to me at least. In fact, I've recently purchased a very nice Sun Java Workstation W2100z this past week at an AMAZING price from Sun and am looking forward to migrating from Linux to Solaris 10. Probably not a popular thing to say here, but do your own tests...this new setup should be fantastic and I'm seeing some other smart changes to/within Sun Microsystems.
Two options:
1) Wine
2) Codeweavers
Nanotechnology and further advances in chip design resulting in more efficient transistors and better interconnects.
'I went to the Futuremark forums and noticed that I'm logged in as someone I don't know...'
thats not a bug, its a feature.
No wonder it's only available for Windows!
Of course, it depends on your definition of 'freedom.' Still, the CDDL isn't a bad license. Do I like it as much as GPL or BSD? No. But it still isn't THAT bad. Besited I don't mind paying a reasonable price to further support development or a company of a good product.
I'm sure we'll disagree on this, but what do I know. Unlike most on this forum, I think the BSD license is more 'free' than the GPL.
Depends on your use. Ubuntu is also my primary home OS now, but that will change to Solaris at the end of the month when some new hardware arrives (as good a time to convert as any).
If you like Ubuntu and it works for you, great, keep it. However, I choose to learn more about Solaris as it offers many things not available in Ubuntu...or most any Linux at this point. Zones, Dtrace, ZFS (soon), Janus (soon), MUCH better SMP support IMHO [will go nicely with my W2100z soon!], StarOffice (it is better than OpenOffice if only slightly), etc... and I won't be losing anything "only" available on Linux.