Not a psych student, but I'd agree with your assessment. His ad hominem attacks, aimless meandering, and self-contradictions discredit his message...though it is an innane and poorly thought out message.
One thing though...Paint Linux advocates as the bully and SCO as the victim? Personally, I more than just "got the feeling" that he was doing that, I read it in his own words. To quote: "the little guy on the block, who just wants his lunch money back from a bunch of line backers"
He's calling linux advocates a bunch of linebackers who rob poor little SCO of his weekly lunch money! And he accuses US of name-calling and religious zealotry!
I'd venture that some folks--like myself--that would be interested in a hybrid vehicle, might live in places that *nearly* require a four wheel drive vehicle during certain (seemingly endless) times of year. Right now, I'm forced by my financial situation to drive a light, front-wheel drive car. Once winter hits, I loathe the thought of even having to cross this town (which NEVER plows their *#$@! streets) with my wife and infant in a puny front-wheel drive vehicle... Let alone drive the 300 miles to the grandparents' house!
I have an old HP CDRW drive... a 9100 I think. An old 8x. (I think the HP documentation said that it was made by Sony, as opposed to the other vendors HP relabels as their own, like Mitsumi or Matshita). Anyways, it still runs great... It ran great under Windows ME (Yeah...I know...worst...OS...ever) w/ default Easy CD Creator, and now that I've put Suse on that box, it still runs just fine.
A side note: the reason I bought HP in the first place was...gasp! I was an *outsourced* HP CDRW tech support phone agent (only for about 9 months).
According to your cite, Kerry got $127,163 from MS, while Bush got $184,040 from MS. I don't care to make the quick calculations as to the percentages of the total contributions, so I'll draw no conlusions.
(Make a point? Why would I want to make one of those?)
That's just silly... Genesis does not indicate that God forbid the pursuit of knowledge in general, but rather the knowledge of good and evil.
Using this passage, to say that God is against scientific knowledge is assinine.
Aside: there were 3 things that Eve noticed about the tree in question, yet you insist that the "FACTS of the story cleary say that Eve ate the fruit to become wise (pursuit of knowledge)". Why only cite one? See previous paragraph. In conclusion...Eve (and Adam for that matter) was punished for doing the thing that God said to NOT do.
I don't have a TV, are either of these programs any good? I mean...I saw like, 2 episodes of Andromeda, but lost interest pretty quickly. Sidenote: the reason I don't have a TV is because of the massive negative effects on my grades that having a TV would have...as if Slashdot didn't already do that....
"But seriously, what happends when somone flys over canadian air space and around the blimps?"
Well, I know that here in Montana, we've got some *interesting* folk who live up near Canada, a few of whom allegedly own functional AA guns. I'm sure that they'd be glad to clear the skies.
First of all, see my post below regarding the source of your 1 day=1000 years premise. That premise is a case of clearly drawing the wrong conclusion from the data available (2 Peter chapter 3).
Additionally, the Hebrew word used in the early chapters of Genesis are NEVER used to indicate a long period of time (i.e. age, generation, year, et cetera), but rather it is always used to indicate a standard (roughly 24 hr) day.
I mean...it should be exceedingly clear when it says "...there was evening and there was morning, one day."
Now, now... It says in 2 Peter 3:8-9,
"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance."
It is both incorrect and poor reading of the text to claim that when it says "day", that it means "an indefinate amount of time", or even "1000 years". Nay, the passage (read the whole chapter!) is telling a church not to be impatient about Jesus' return, and that God isn't slow about fulfilling His promises...because God is eternal, and the ebb and flow of time has no effect on Him.
Thanks for all the links. I've started with the Oxford one, and if these last 2 weeks of my semester permit, I'll look at each one. So far, the first offshoot from the Oxford site-- that I've read through-- gives an amplitude of yearly oscillation of 14C depositing, but nowhere does it give the mean about which it oscillates. That's bad data reporting. Of course, they reference the original papers, and I might have to dig through my university's library to find those papers, but I'm willing to do that. Heck, I'll even look at your www.talkorigins.org link, though I know it to be as scientifically unbiased as www.answersingenesis.com .
Nice photo. I'd recommend a good circular polarizer, or a UV haze filter, but other than that, I like the coloration, the framing, and the subject.
Back on topic, though.... You do make an interesting point. Quite possible. I'm not saying that the ark couldn't have landed on that particular mountain, or it's sub-peak, but rather that the biblical passage could possibly include other locations, as it just says "the mountains of Ararat".
I didn't mean to preclude Mt. Ararat, but rather to possibly include other locales.
Dang, I thought there'd be at least SOMETHING about Hobbes' Leviathan, or Rousseau's... Ressau's... Roseao's... *crap, it's some dang French spelling*...that one guy's book, "The Social Contract"...I was hoping for some good ol' philosophical debate about the origin of society... Oops.
Sorry if I come across as a stickler, but I'd really like to see some scientific journal articles. My university has access to many, many archived journals, so even older stuff, as long as it's quality. Regarding your examples of how to set the production rates: fossilized trees: without knowing the age of the event of the fossilization of the trees, you're using circular definitions for establishing the date. -A quick Q for biologists: do all already established rings in a tree still receive C14? I'd assume they do, but I'm into engineering, not biology. If they don't, you'd have a nifty way of guessing at the rate of C14 production over the lifespan of the tree, just do some rather painful curve-fitting with the different C14 levels present in each layer and assume that each layer marks one year-and I don't believe that's always the case, especially in tropical and subtropical zones. periodic sedementation layers: this grossly assumes that the periodicity is uniformly periodic across the entire region of interest. Of course, any periodic sedimentation layers are really *nearly* periodic, because true periodicity requires a signal of infinite duration, and the lake(s) in question have existed for a finite length of time. (Sorry, just had a flashback to Signals and Systems.)
While I have my qualms about the various and sundry radio-dating methods (Carbon14, Potassium-argon, Uranium-lead, et al) I'd like to see some good sources in the scientific community (for example, an article in a widely accepted research journal) that can show some sort of proof that the depositing of Carbon14 into the atmosphere is a uniform event. Additionally, I'd like to see the research supporting/or not supporting a stance of uniformitarianism with regards to the depositing of C14 into the atmosphere. Essientially, I'd like to read whatever ya' gots on the commonly held presupposition that the present rate of depositing of C14 has *always* been the rate of C14 depositing. Any links to scientific journals appreciated.
I'm sane...I am legally capable of taking care of my finances (even if I am a college student), and I believe that the Bible is the infallible Word of God. But, then again you did say "most", and since I don't have stats on the entirety of "followers of the bible" I can't vouch for the binomial distribution of which you speak.
I don't think that writer of the CNN article has --ahem-- RTFB. (Sorry bout that.)
In Genesis 8:4 it says that the ark "rested upon the mountains of Ararat." (NASB)
Ergo, it did not necessarily rest upon the particular peak that we call "Mount Ararat", but rather upon one of the peaks in that region.
I took the Fundamentals of Engineering a couple weeks back, and they ban ANYTHING that can communicate OR be used as a text editor. Ergo, I couldn't use either my 92 or my 89.
Needless to say...I couldn't find my TI 36X Solar, and had to borrow somebody's financial calculator (BA II) Ugh. The stupid thing didn't even have log10(), no, I had to convert from ln() to log10()... mildly annoying.
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Not a psych student, but I'd agree with your assessment. His ad hominem attacks, aimless meandering, and self-contradictions discredit his message...though it is an innane and poorly thought out message.
One thing though...Paint Linux advocates as the bully and SCO as the victim? Personally, I more than just "got the feeling" that he was doing that, I read it in his own words. To quote:
"the little guy on the block, who just wants his lunch money back from a bunch of line backers"
He's calling linux advocates a bunch of linebackers who rob poor little SCO of his weekly lunch money! And he accuses US of name-calling and religious zealotry!
"Why release a hybrid SUV?"
I'd venture that some folks--like myself--that would be interested in a hybrid vehicle, might live in places that *nearly* require a four wheel drive vehicle during certain (seemingly endless) times of year.
Right now, I'm forced by my financial situation to drive a light, front-wheel drive car. Once winter hits, I loathe the thought of even having to cross this town (which NEVER plows their *#$@! streets) with my wife and infant in a puny front-wheel drive vehicle... Let alone drive the 300 miles to the grandparents' house!
I have an old HP CDRW drive... a 9100 I think. An old 8x. (I think the HP documentation said that it was made by Sony, as opposed to the other vendors HP relabels as their own, like Mitsumi or Matshita).
Anyways, it still runs great... It ran great under Windows ME (Yeah...I know...worst...OS...ever) w/ default Easy CD Creator, and now that I've put Suse on that box, it still runs just fine.
A side note: the reason I bought HP in the first place was...gasp! I was an *outsourced* HP CDRW tech support phone agent (only for about 9 months).
That is...
if you fail to use your Heisenberg-Compensated Web Browser (TM)
Dang my years of ST TNG watching...can't sort out episodes.
According to your cite, Kerry got $127,163 from MS, while Bush got $184,040 from MS. I don't care to make the quick calculations as to the percentages of the total contributions, so I'll draw no conlusions.
(Make a point? Why would I want to make one of those?)
That's just silly...
Genesis does not indicate that God forbid the pursuit of knowledge in general, but rather the knowledge of good and evil.
Using this passage, to say that God is against scientific knowledge is assinine.
Aside: there were 3 things that Eve noticed about the tree in question, yet you insist that the "FACTS of the story cleary say that Eve ate the fruit to become wise (pursuit of knowledge)". Why only cite one? See previous paragraph.
In conclusion...Eve (and Adam for that matter) was punished for doing the thing that God said to NOT do.
10. Computers never, EVER get a period. Not True.....Ever used Windows ME?
Sure...just lemme dig through Edmund Scientific's catalogue for a bit, and I'm sure I could find you some, at very reasonable and at very high prices.
Excuse me...were either of these programs any good?
I don't have a TV, are either of these programs any good? I mean...I saw like, 2 episodes of Andromeda, but lost interest pretty quickly.
Sidenote: the reason I don't have a TV is because of the massive negative effects on my grades that having a TV would have...as if Slashdot didn't already do that....
"But seriously, what happends when somone flys over canadian air space and around the blimps?" Well, I know that here in Montana, we've got some *interesting* folk who live up near Canada, a few of whom allegedly own functional AA guns. I'm sure that they'd be glad to clear the skies.
"...the water's lovely and the mushrooms are great..." Just what did those mushrooms look like, ma'am?
Of course... don't listen to me... I'm a Republican
First of all, see my post below regarding the source of your 1 day=1000 years premise. That premise is a case of clearly drawing the wrong conclusion from the data available (2 Peter chapter 3). Additionally, the Hebrew word used in the early chapters of Genesis are NEVER used to indicate a long period of time (i.e. age, generation, year, et cetera), but rather it is always used to indicate a standard (roughly 24 hr) day. I mean...it should be exceedingly clear when it says "...there was evening and there was morning, one day."
Now, now... It says in 2 Peter 3:8-9, "But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." It is both incorrect and poor reading of the text to claim that when it says "day", that it means "an indefinate amount of time", or even "1000 years". Nay, the passage (read the whole chapter!) is telling a church not to be impatient about Jesus' return, and that God isn't slow about fulfilling His promises...because God is eternal, and the ebb and flow of time has no effect on Him.
Thanks for all the links. I've started with the Oxford one, and if these last 2 weeks of my semester permit, I'll look at each one. So far, the first offshoot from the Oxford site-- that I've read through-- gives an amplitude of yearly oscillation of 14C depositing, but nowhere does it give the mean about which it oscillates. That's bad data reporting.
Of course, they reference the original papers, and I might have to dig through my university's library to find those papers, but I'm willing to do that. Heck, I'll even look at your www.talkorigins.org link, though I know it to be as scientifically unbiased as www.answersingenesis.com .
"Daddy always told me not to trust anybody who swears to their own sanity. ;)"
Well.....
I just said that I'm sane, I didn't say I was #!@*&%%$# sane.
So...You're saying that the Hubble ain't exactly a "diffraction limited system"?
Nice photo. I'd recommend a good circular polarizer, or a UV haze filter, but other than that, I like the coloration, the framing, and the subject. Back on topic, though.... You do make an interesting point. Quite possible. I'm not saying that the ark couldn't have landed on that particular mountain, or it's sub-peak, but rather that the biblical passage could possibly include other locations, as it just says "the mountains of Ararat". I didn't mean to preclude Mt. Ararat, but rather to possibly include other locales.
Dang, I thought there'd be at least SOMETHING about Hobbes' Leviathan, or Rousseau's... Ressau's... Roseao's... *crap, it's some dang French spelling*...that one guy's book, "The Social Contract" ...I was hoping for some good ol' philosophical debate about the origin of society... Oops.
Sorry if I come across as a stickler, but I'd really like to see some scientific journal articles. My university has access to many, many archived journals, so even older stuff, as long as it's quality.
Regarding your examples of how to set the production rates:
fossilized trees: without knowing the age of the event of the fossilization of the trees, you're using circular definitions for establishing the date. -A quick Q for biologists: do all already established rings in a tree still receive C14? I'd assume they do, but I'm into engineering, not biology. If they don't, you'd have a nifty way of guessing at the rate of C14 production over the lifespan of the tree, just do some rather painful curve-fitting with the different C14 levels present in each layer and assume that each layer marks one year-and I don't believe that's always the case, especially in tropical and subtropical zones.
periodic sedementation layers: this grossly assumes that the periodicity is uniformly periodic across the entire region of interest. Of course, any periodic sedimentation layers are really *nearly* periodic, because true periodicity requires a signal of infinite duration, and the lake(s) in question have existed for a finite length of time. (Sorry, just had a flashback to Signals and Systems.)
While I have my qualms about the various and sundry radio-dating methods (Carbon14, Potassium-argon, Uranium-lead, et al) I'd like to see some good sources in the scientific community (for example, an article in a widely accepted research journal) that can show some sort of proof that the depositing of Carbon14 into the atmosphere is a uniform event. Additionally, I'd like to see the research supporting/or not supporting a stance of uniformitarianism with regards to the depositing of C14 into the atmosphere.
Essientially, I'd like to read whatever ya' gots on the commonly held presupposition that the present rate of depositing of C14 has *always* been the rate of C14 depositing.
Any links to scientific journals appreciated.
I'm sane...I am legally capable of taking care of my finances (even if I am a college student), and I believe that the Bible is the infallible Word of God.
But, then again you did say "most", and since I don't have stats on the entirety of "followers of the bible" I can't vouch for the binomial distribution of which you speak.
I don't think that writer of the CNN article has --ahem-- RTFB. (Sorry bout that.) In Genesis 8:4 it says that the ark "rested upon the mountains of Ararat." (NASB) Ergo, it did not necessarily rest upon the particular peak that we call "Mount Ararat", but rather upon one of the peaks in that region.
I took the Fundamentals of Engineering a couple weeks back, and they ban ANYTHING that can communicate OR be used as a text editor. Ergo, I couldn't use either my 92 or my 89.
Needless to say...I couldn't find my TI 36X Solar, and had to borrow somebody's financial calculator (BA II) Ugh. The stupid thing didn't even have log10(), no, I had to convert from ln() to log10()... mildly annoying.