Man, PDFs suck for the price. When I sit and read through a rulebook, I don't want to worry about carrying a laptop around. I sit on the couch and read, then move to the table, then go read in bed. I don't want to sit and read the PDF for a 250 page rulebook. Then there's the price thing. Let's be honest. They're not worth it. It's just not worth paying a good $4.00 less for the lack of paper.
I can see gaming on a laptop, but I'd rather have the paper and ink version. I would, however, like it if more RPG companies released their books in PDF form, let the customers flip through it and play a game, and then count on them to buy it for the convenience. I don't know if it would work, but I would like it.
Well, let me start by saying that the internet is a gigantic hub of commercial competitiveness. There are the eBayers, the scammers, the Ebay scammers, the personal business people who sell their own stuff, the CafePress people, the major corporate outlets, ETC. The only things they all have in common are their love of money and their necessary shipping charges. The second one is what has to be focused on. Even with Amazon's orders over $25.00 or $50.00 or whatever being free, it's a step in the right direction, but it's still not there. That's what the local businesses have going for them. They should be able to provide the same book at at least the same price. As long as I can go pick up the book and flip through it, I'm happy to pay a local retailer the same price for a gamebook.
That said, I think it's important to mention that my local retailer, Vintage Stock (There are other stores on the other side of town, I think), doesn't carry a large supply of gamebooks. They have a small shelf of Vampire: Masquerade, or whatever it's called, the core D&D 3.5 books, a Rifts book, a Conan book, and a few others. After reading about all these cool RPGs, I would like to be able to go flip through some of the books before I purchase one. I'd like to get some All Flesh Must Be Eaten stuff (I have the core rulebook), I want to check out Paranoia, I want to find an old copy of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Other Wierdness. I would love to play that. Do they have those? Do they have used rulebooks? The cool, old stuff I missed out on because of my parent's "Roleplaying is evil" point of view? Nope. Honestly, that's all I want, and I'm willing to pay my local gamestore the same price to get it today and have a chance to flip through it.
So you want people to spend extra money, not to mention time, investing in a store they don't know or care about that didn't have the selection they desired, just so that a group of geeks can talk about how dumb Yu-Gi-Oh! is?
They're running a business. That's not how business works. Either you sell a wide selection of products at a = price, or you go out of business.
That's the indy game producer's problem. If the gaming public likes 50 Cent and his G-Unit shooting people, online WW2 sims, and MMOs, that's what they'll get. If they like inventive games, that's what they'll get. Don't blame corporaions for giving the gaming public what they like. It's how they stay in business.
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It's also what they say about a band when people like them. Or what they say about a band when they make different kinds of music, even though you'd think making the same kind of music over and over would be 'selling out'.
You know.... they put the same nicotine in cigars that they do in cigarettes. Actually, they're worse for you. Equally addictive, too. That's kind of like chewing tobacco because smoking is so gross.
Hey, if it's $200.00 in the first 6 months, I'm picking one up. If I pick up an XBOX 360, then I'll probably skip the PS3, since most of the important games usually come out for both. It makes business sense to me.
But Blizzard is taking responsibility for it. Blizzard would not take responsibility for the game unless it was going to be a good game. Now, I'm not a Blizzard advocate. I didn't even like Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3 that much, but I recognize their goodness as games, and I trust blizzard to kick out another excellent game.
They have eared my trust, and the trust of a lot of people, that when we buy their games, we're getting the cream of the crop, and I doubt they would blow it on a shooter, of all things.
Blackthorne, Rock 'N Roll Racing, the Lost Vikings... All excellent games. Sure there's the Death and Return of Superman, but we all mess up once or twice, right?
"You may want to try the latest build of 6.0-RC1 on the Sun Blade 100, or disable ATA DMA if you are using IDE hard drives in that machine. I also have a Sun Blade 100 that throw fits with ATA DMA enabled, but the problem was fixed prior to 6.0-RC1 was released."
"Thanks for the heads up. I was actually putting it on there to test the upgrade procedure from 5.4 to 6.0 before I applied it to the other sparc machines but not Blade 100s."
And you wonder why the average person uses Windows.
Story time: My sister needed Microsoft Office for school. I told her about Open Office, showed it to her, told her it could do whatever MS Office could do, and offered to burn it to a CD for her, but she still insisted on spending $149.95 on Microsoft Office: Student Edition, because that's what her teachers were using.
It's a no-brainer, but a lot of people don't know about it, would rather buy than download, or just want a product they are sure is compatable with their teacher's/classmate's/coworker's/boss's software. In the end, it'll catch on like Firefox: everybody who knows anything about computers will switch, everyone else will put up with Microsoft's crap, because they don't know any better.
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Somebody sounds bitter about a previous relationship.
Wouldn't that mean free phone sex, since you don't get charged for the call?
I don't think that's gonna work.
Sounds like somebody's a little bitter.
Try reading a copy of Shonen Jump.
"You know what else you can read? SHONEN JUMP GRAPHIC NOVELS!!"
What does the presence of Charles Darwin have to do with that, though?
Are you suggesting Charles Darwin would hunt down and kill or neuter every person on the planet who has ever paid for ringtones were he alive today?
Makes sense to me.
Because the Japanese only like 12 games, so it was way easier to pull off?
Man, PDFs suck for the price.
When I sit and read through a rulebook, I don't want to worry about carrying a laptop around. I sit on the couch and read, then move to the table, then go read in bed. I don't want to sit and read the PDF for a 250 page rulebook.
Then there's the price thing. Let's be honest. They're not worth it. It's just not worth paying a good $4.00 less for the lack of paper.
I can see gaming on a laptop, but I'd rather have the paper and ink version.
I would, however, like it if more RPG companies released their books in PDF form, let the customers flip through it and play a game, and then count on them to buy it for the convenience. I don't know if it would work, but I would like it.
Elemenstration Cycle.
Well, let me start by saying that the internet is a gigantic hub of commercial competitiveness. There are the eBayers, the scammers, the Ebay scammers, the personal business people who sell their own stuff, the CafePress people, the major corporate outlets, ETC. The only things they all have in common are their love of money and their necessary shipping charges. The second one is what has to be focused on.
Even with Amazon's orders over $25.00 or $50.00 or whatever being free, it's a step in the right direction, but it's still not there. That's what the local businesses have going for them. They should be able to provide the same book at at least the same price.
As long as I can go pick up the book and flip through it, I'm happy to pay a local retailer the same price for a gamebook.
That said, I think it's important to mention that my local retailer, Vintage Stock (There are other stores on the other side of town, I think), doesn't carry a large supply of gamebooks. They have a small shelf of Vampire: Masquerade, or whatever it's called, the core D&D 3.5 books, a Rifts book, a Conan book, and a few others.
After reading about all these cool RPGs, I would like to be able to go flip through some of the books before I purchase one.
I'd like to get some All Flesh Must Be Eaten stuff (I have the core rulebook), I want to check out Paranoia, I want to find an old copy of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Other Wierdness. I would love to play that. Do they have those? Do they have used rulebooks? The cool, old stuff I missed out on because of my parent's "Roleplaying is evil" point of view? Nope.
Honestly, that's all I want, and I'm willing to pay my local gamestore the same price to get it today and have a chance to flip through it.
They have Grues in ADoM.
So you want people to spend extra money, not to mention time, investing in a store they don't know or care about that didn't have the selection they desired, just so that a group of geeks can talk about how dumb Yu-Gi-Oh! is?
They're running a business. That's not how business works. Either you sell a wide selection of products at a = price, or you go out of business.
Hey, did you ever play Donkey Kong JR Math? That game is pretty cool, too.
HD=Hard Drive, not High Definition.
That's the indy game producer's problem.
If the gaming public likes 50 Cent and his G-Unit shooting people, online WW2 sims, and MMOs, that's what they'll get. If they like inventive games, that's what they'll get. Don't blame corporaions for giving the gaming public what they like. It's how they stay in business.
It's also what they say about a band when people like them.
Or what they say about a band when they make different kinds of music, even though you'd think making the same kind of music over and over would be 'selling out'.
You know.... they put the same nicotine in cigars that they do in cigarettes.
Actually, they're worse for you. Equally addictive, too.
That's kind of like chewing tobacco because smoking is so gross.
Hey, if it's $200.00 in the first 6 months, I'm picking one up. If I pick up an XBOX 360, then I'll probably skip the PS3, since most of the important games usually come out for both.
It makes business sense to me.
But Blizzard is taking responsibility for it. Blizzard would not take responsibility for the game unless it was going to be a good game.
Now, I'm not a Blizzard advocate. I didn't even like Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3 that much, but I recognize their goodness as games, and I trust blizzard to kick out another excellent game.
They have eared my trust, and the trust of a lot of people, that when we buy their games, we're getting the cream of the crop, and I doubt they would blow it on a shooter, of all things.
Blackthorne, Rock 'N Roll Racing, the Lost Vikings... All excellent games.
Sure there's the Death and Return of Superman, but we all mess up once or twice, right?
"You may want to try the latest build of 6.0-RC1 on the Sun Blade 100, or disable ATA DMA if you are using IDE hard drives in that machine. I also have a Sun Blade 100 that throw fits with ATA DMA enabled, but the problem was fixed prior to 6.0-RC1 was released."
"Thanks for the heads up. I was actually putting it on there to test the upgrade procedure from 5.4 to 6.0 before I applied it to the other sparc machines but not Blade 100s."
And you wonder why the average person uses Windows.
Story time: My sister needed Microsoft Office for school. I told her about Open Office, showed it to her, told her it could do whatever MS Office could do, and offered to burn it to a CD for her, but she still insisted on spending $149.95 on Microsoft Office: Student Edition, because that's what her teachers were using.
It's a no-brainer, but a lot of people don't know about it, would rather buy than download, or just want a product they are sure is compatable with their teacher's/classmate's/coworker's/boss's software.
In the end, it'll catch on like Firefox: everybody who knows anything about computers will switch, everyone else will put up with Microsoft's crap, because they don't know any better.
He's secretly making a jab at the source code.
How about 'the worlds largest library?'
Not only would it have tons of books (literally), it would also act as a time capsule when the zombies come.
I'm putting in a bid.
This has just what I've been looking for in a secret lair.
Disqualified.