until at least users make the transition to native programs or these program are ported to Linux.
Screw the wine push.. push the porting.. Wine is nice in a pinch, but it's a hack.. and really, some of the better Windows applications that have been around awhile, just might find some cash flow if they take a chance and try porting them to Linux. As it stands for me 100% of what I need to do, I can do with Linux.. but that's me.. I am not a gamer, and I don't have any proprietary or specialized applications that have no equivalents.. but yes, I know that some people do. Companies that sell generally available software like Photoshop.. these should be ported.. companies that sell some proprietary program (perhaps something that controls a machine like CAM) it will only be hit and miss in getting wine to work, and I wouldn't expect a company like that to port until the writing was on the wall that there was a good demand.
This is not to say that wine should not continue to be improved.. but getting the bigger players to port is a much more important goal.
Even though after re-reading it I see your point.. I should point out to you that ichat uses aim protocol.. so again my advice stands.. that since there is nothing available for video chat with aim protocol and Linux, then the easier solution is to switch to Msn messenger.. in which you can get video on both platforms.
So, how many have the terror/suicide bombers killed? 10's of 1000's? It seems every day that's all I'm hearing about. 40 here, 100 there, 200 here. Every day. Who's killing who?
And this is supposed to be an improvement that we created by being there ?... like all Iraq war supporters, you conveniently forget how Iraq even started.. We went there to take away those weapons of mass destruction remember ??.. well they were not there.. so how did Iraq suddenly become a "war on terror" ?.. because neighboring states such as our buddies in Saudi Arabia decided to cross the border and do their Jihad, to help out their fellow Arabs.. simple.. Then in the power shift that happened because of the vacuum we created, there bloomed a civil war.. these are not terrorist attacks on th US.. they are squabbles of Iraqi against Iraqi... And then of course now we have given the boogyman Al Quada a place to stir up shit..
Really really think hard, about who is benefiting with all this misery in Iraq... do the terrorists benefit at all ?.. do the various Iraqi sects benefit at all ?.. are all these people really this stupid ?.. this is the question.. Who benefits ?? think about it... if your thinking eventually leads to the price of oil.. then you have half a brain.. maybe with the other half you'll realize that there is quite a bit wrong with the whole Iraq thing.
It seems most people seem to ignore the fact that the submitter wants something AOL IM specific.. I can understand that, but haven't found anything like that.. The easy solution (ignoring the parameters like everyone else).. would be for the Windows side to use MSN Messenger, and the Linux side to use aMsn.. as MSN is a no brainer for the windows users, and aMsn supports webcams.
Yeah, that's a nice thought and all.. but not so funny for United, and not so funny for the struggling airlines and not so funny if you want to fly and find outrageous ticket pricing... And all this voodoo speculation is the reason gasoline is so high.. There has been no shortage of oil at all, but speculation that there "might be" has led to where we are today... the real idiots are the people that believe that there are shortages.. and the real idiots are the people who believe this doesn't need fixing.
Planning.. 401k.. yeah yeah, get it.. but why is it so many other European countries actually have health care for everyone, and take care of their elderly ?.. but to do it in the US (which is supposed to be the greatest country) means your a communist and want to destroy America ?.. why do I have to set aside money because I can't trust the government not to squander my retirement money ?
Not picking on you specifically.. but your at the top, and it is repeated again and again below.. The question was about.. Intro to computers, networking.. and job skills (office suites)... every one wants to jump past all this and teach programming for some reason... Now granted the average HS student today probably doesn't need "intro" courses for computers (maybe networking though).. but that is what was asked for... now let me ask you this.. does college level "intro to computers" teach c++ or java ??... nope, separate subject.
My oldest daughter is a "burden to society", you heartless, brainless, insensitive clod.
I going to address 2 issues here.. First of all your daughter did not do this to herself, and you would not condone her doing something like this to herself... and if someone you cared about got hooked on meth, and suddenly they are a fried potato living on the streets collecting ther SSI check at the post office faithfully to buy more and cook their brain even farther until they died.. and you were ok with that.. I would ask who is the heartless brainless insensitive one ?
I am going to also tell you exactly why pot should be illegal.. because freakin pot heads have something wrong with them.. for some reason smoking pot HAS TO BE SOCIAL.. You can not be around someone smoking it, without them asking if you want some.. usually several times as if one "no" doesn't register.. and this leads me down the other problem with it.. because it IS SOCIAL in that way, you always have these crossover drug users.. the ones that do both pot and meth.. and they gotta share that too.. so hate me for ruining your party, but that is the way of it.. and by the way your "100 percent" of tobacco smokers dieing is also bullshit.. and actually to take it further the WHO statistics on smokers, non smokers, and smokers exposed to second hand doesn't support all that nonsense either.. nonsmokers have always had a percentage die from lung cancer.. smoking isn't the only cause, and tyeing it to second hand smoke is not supported statistically.
Certain drugs certainly do need to be illegal.. If you can't see that then your blinded by your selfish interest for wanting the drug of your choice to be legal. Just as you have seatbelt laws to protect people from themselves, you have to make some of these drugs illegal to keep people from fucking themselves up.. Perhaps your too stoned to care about someone doing permanent brain damage on themselves and swimming through the world like they have MS until they reach a point where they are non functional and a burden on they rest of society.. It's no skin off your nose until maybe it's somebody you care about that does this to themselves.
Right, Privilege.. Kind of both.. Driving is a regulated activity. Everyone has the right to try and conform to the regulations, if you don't then your are not issued (given) a license.. but the term privilege mainly refers to punishment (similar to children., act out in school, and you can not use the TV).. If it was just a matter of regulations and fees, then it would not be a privilege, but adding in the punishment factor makes it that.
Trucking companies also pay road taxes, and DMV fees... What irks me, is when I see a particular stretch of road that is torn up and re-lain multiple times a year. (I remember one incident where the road was only new for about 2 weeks before it was pulled back up)
It would seem to me, that it is more likely that it would be the exception rather than the rule for them to fall straight down.. because all it would take is for one of 4 sides to be weaker and collapse first and then weight would shift towards that weaker side increasingly..
So.. how do the people who wrote the 24,405 available packages in my software repository get by ?.. they are not all not big like Mozilla, or OpenOffice either... and although I don't have an RPM distro to check against, I am pretty sure that all the things that I have installed are available in RPMS as well... and most package managers have an installer as well for things that are not in a repository.. example gdebi.
You will never be able to achieve a perfect stand alone installer that will work will all flavors of Linux, because of dependency issues.. sure you can go the Windows route and overwrite dlls, or add more dlls (libs), but really the dependency checking of apt, and programs like gdebi is the better way to go.. Linux is not Windows.. and should not be.
I guess they would use them to call in their mortar fire..
Basically, this a stupid premise.. just as saying if you give them guns they will fight your enemy for you.. chances are just as good they will fight you instead.. and why is the goal to elevate 3rd world countries into fighting machines anyway ?.. why cant you elevate them into a peaceful, high tech society ?
The point of my post isn't to ask whether there are other technological solutions. It's to highlight a political problem, the problem of community members not recognizing that there is a desktop adoption problem, or the unwillingness to solve it.
Which is why install through package managers is better, because then you are dealing with one entity (the distro) for compliance with standards.. as opposed every joe blow writing programs and installing them wherever he decides to.
For the FBI to put manpower into investigating someone means they must suspect something and they'd pretty easily get a warrant anyway.
Or it could be that someone with connections in the FBI, has a beef with someone else, and has the FBI investigate them for no reason, other than to see what they find out that can be used against this person they don't like,.
Or perhaps they use their internet data mining program, and they find that your name comes up in many posts discussing things with keywords like FBI, and suspect, and that you have been to Hamburg and Prague, and though you haven't really done anything suspicious they decided to investigate you for awhile.. just cuz.. they may get lucky... Kind of like a cop poking around in your vehicle after stopping you for 5 miles over the speed limit.
I find taxidermy in general disturbing.. even a hunters trophy (film has been around how long ?).. it's just macabre.. and then I have to wonder about the people who chose this as a profession (or hobby), how do you come to a decision that this is something you would like to do ?
You want a horror story... Excite, which had (at least in my opinion) pretty reliable web mail.. decided to "upgrade" their email interface, and have it hosted by a company called Bluetie.. You would figure in such a change that you might at the most be down for a day, maybe two... 33 days is what it took before I finally got any email coming into my inbox.. Now for me this was just a side account, but I had some things tied to it that I liked to keep tabs on.. but there were many people who had excites email tied into their businesses, and personal things like banking and job searches.. many many unhappy people dumped excite for good over this fiasco.. Worst planned and poorly executed upgrade I have ever seen.
Well you are supposed to get kind of a gist of what they stand for in all the campaigning.. but it certainly would be nice to know who they have in mind for certain posts.. I think it's a bit much to flat out declare people as "the one" for any given position, but they could make lists of people they like.. It at least shows that they know who is good at what.
If for example, a candidate was to say that they had Condoleezza Rice on their list of candidates for Secretary of State.. You would know that that person is a moron with no leadership skills and doesn't know what the Secretary of State does... I mean if the Secretary of State is just a "secretary" who takes dictation.., well then maybe she would be an excellent choice.. but I don't think Secretary means that in this case.
Pro golfers often take lessons almost as if they were beginners.. It's easy for a golfer to develop bad habits and relearning the proper techniques is what makes them good.. Most amateur golfers perhaps take lessons when first learning the game, and that's it.. If you learned the game, and played every day without any further instruction you would play fairly well, but if you retake lessons occasionally and play every day you will get so much better.
They don't require a warrant to stand next to you and listen to your conversations in public either, but if they placed a bug on your clothes that would be ok ?
The questions are... ... Is being a Tibetan under Chinese rule worse than being Chinese under Chinese rule ? ... Is being a Tibetan under previous Tibetan rule worse than now ? ... Would a new Tibetan ruled Tibet be self sustaining and better ? ... What is really behind westerners wanting to "free Tibet" ?.. what is to be gained ?..
I really don't think most people have thought anything through, beyond this idealist vision of freedom fighting for "the cause".. If it happens it just might suck.. but hey they'd be free.
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until at least users make the transition to native programs or these program are ported to Linux.
Screw the wine push.. push the porting.. Wine is nice in a pinch, but it's a hack.. and really, some of the better Windows applications that have been around awhile, just might find some cash flow if they take a chance and try porting them to Linux. As it stands for me 100% of what I need to do, I can do with Linux.. but that's me.. I am not a gamer, and I don't have any proprietary or specialized applications that have no equivalents.. but yes, I know that some people do. Companies that sell generally available software like Photoshop.. these should be ported.. companies that sell some proprietary program (perhaps something that controls a machine like CAM) it will only be hit and miss in getting wine to work, and I wouldn't expect a company like that to port until the writing was on the wall that there was a good demand.
This is not to say that wine should not continue to be improved.. but getting the bigger players to port is a much more important goal.
Even though after re-reading it I see your point.. I should point out to you that ichat uses aim protocol.. so again my advice stands.. that since there is nothing available for video chat with aim protocol and Linux, then the easier solution is to switch to Msn messenger.. in which you can get video on both platforms.
So, how many have the terror/suicide bombers killed? 10's of 1000's? It seems every day that's all I'm hearing about. 40 here, 100 there, 200 here. Every day. Who's killing who?
And this is supposed to be an improvement that we created by being there ? ... like all Iraq war supporters, you conveniently forget how Iraq even started.. We went there to take away those weapons of mass destruction remember ??.. well they were not there.. so how did Iraq suddenly become a "war on terror" ?.. because neighboring states such as our buddies in Saudi Arabia decided to cross the border and do their Jihad, to help out their fellow Arabs.. simple.. Then in the power shift that happened because of the vacuum we created, there bloomed a civil war.. these are not terrorist attacks on th US.. they are squabbles of Iraqi against Iraqi... And then of course now we have given the boogyman Al Quada a place to stir up shit..
Really really think hard, about who is benefiting with all this misery in Iraq... do the terrorists benefit at all ? .. do the various Iraqi sects benefit at all ? .. are all these people really this stupid ? .. this is the question.. Who benefits ?? think about it... if your thinking eventually leads to the price of oil.. then you have half a brain.. maybe with the other half you'll realize that there is quite a bit wrong with the whole Iraq thing.
It seems most people seem to ignore the fact that the submitter wants something AOL IM specific.. I can understand that, but haven't found anything like that.. The easy solution (ignoring the parameters like everyone else).. would be for the Windows side to use MSN Messenger, and the Linux side to use aMsn.. as MSN is a no brainer for the windows users, and aMsn supports webcams.
Yeah, that's a nice thought and all.. but not so funny for United, and not so funny for the struggling airlines and not so funny if you want to fly and find outrageous ticket pricing... And all this voodoo speculation is the reason gasoline is so high.. There has been no shortage of oil at all, but speculation that there "might be" has led to where we are today... the real idiots are the people that believe that there are shortages.. and the real idiots are the people who believe this doesn't need fixing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care
The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system.
Except for the one we pay for, for the Iraqis.
Planning.. 401k.. yeah yeah, get it.. but why is it so many other European countries actually have health care for everyone, and take care of their elderly ? .. but to do it in the US (which is supposed to be the greatest country) means your a communist and want to destroy America ? .. why do I have to set aside money because I can't trust the government not to squander my retirement money ?
Not picking on you specifically.. but your at the top, and it is repeated again and again below.. The question was about.. Intro to computers, networking.. and job skills (office suites)... every one wants to jump past all this and teach programming for some reason... Now granted the average HS student today probably doesn't need "intro" courses for computers (maybe networking though).. but that is what was asked for... now let me ask you this.. does college level "intro to computers" teach c++ or java ??... nope, separate subject.
My oldest daughter is a "burden to society", you heartless, brainless, insensitive clod.
I going to address 2 issues here.. First of all your daughter did not do this to herself, and you would not condone her doing something like this to herself... and if someone you cared about got hooked on meth, and suddenly they are a fried potato living on the streets collecting ther SSI check at the post office faithfully to buy more and cook their brain even farther until they died.. and you were ok with that.. I would ask who is the heartless brainless insensitive one ?
I am going to also tell you exactly why pot should be illegal.. because freakin pot heads have something wrong with them.. for some reason smoking pot HAS TO BE SOCIAL.. You can not be around someone smoking it, without them asking if you want some.. usually several times as if one "no" doesn't register.. and this leads me down the other problem with it.. because it IS SOCIAL in that way, you always have these crossover drug users.. the ones that do both pot and meth.. and they gotta share that too.. so hate me for ruining your party, but that is the way of it.. and by the way your "100 percent" of tobacco smokers dieing is also bullshit.. and actually to take it further the WHO statistics on smokers, non smokers, and smokers exposed to second hand doesn't support all that nonsense either.. nonsmokers have always had a percentage die from lung cancer.. smoking isn't the only cause, and tyeing it to second hand smoke is not supported statistically.
And her turnoffs are dishonesty, and world hunger.. and she wants to be a veterinarian to create world peace.
Certain drugs certainly do need to be illegal.. If you can't see that then your blinded by your selfish interest for wanting the drug of your choice to be legal. Just as you have seatbelt laws to protect people from themselves, you have to make some of these drugs illegal to keep people from fucking themselves up.. Perhaps your too stoned to care about someone doing permanent brain damage on themselves and swimming through the world like they have MS until they reach a point where they are non functional and a burden on they rest of society.. It's no skin off your nose until maybe it's somebody you care about that does this to themselves.
Right, Privilege.. Kind of both.. Driving is a regulated activity. Everyone has the right to try and conform to the regulations, if you don't then your are not issued (given) a license.. but the term privilege mainly refers to punishment (similar to children., act out in school, and you can not use the TV).. If it was just a matter of regulations and fees, then it would not be a privilege, but adding in the punishment factor makes it that.
Trucking companies also pay road taxes, and DMV fees... What irks me, is when I see a particular stretch of road that is torn up and re-lain multiple times a year. (I remember one incident where the road was only new for about 2 weeks before it was pulled back up)
It would seem to me, that it is more likely that it would be the exception rather than the rule for them to fall straight down.. because all it would take is for one of 4 sides to be weaker and collapse first and then weight would shift towards that weaker side increasingly..
I want to see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenga recreations... now that's some science.
So.. how do the people who wrote the 24,405 available packages in my software repository get by ?.. they are not all not big like Mozilla, or OpenOffice either... and although I don't have an RPM distro to check against, I am pretty sure that all the things that I have installed are available in RPMS as well... and most package managers have an installer as well for things that are not in a repository.. example gdebi.
You will never be able to achieve a perfect stand alone installer that will work will all flavors of Linux, because of dependency issues.. sure you can go the Windows route and overwrite dlls, or add more dlls (libs), but really the dependency checking of apt, and programs like gdebi is the better way to go.. Linux is not Windows.. and should not be.
I guess they would use them to call in their mortar fire..
Basically, this a stupid premise.. just as saying if you give them guns they will fight your enemy for you.. chances are just as good they will fight you instead.. and why is the goal to elevate 3rd world countries into fighting machines anyway ?.. why cant you elevate them into a peaceful, high tech society ?
The point of my post isn't to ask whether there are other technological solutions. It's to highlight a political problem, the problem of community members not recognizing that there is a desktop adoption problem, or the unwillingness to solve it.
Which is why install through package managers is better, because then you are dealing with one entity (the distro) for compliance with standards.. as opposed every joe blow writing programs and installing them wherever he decides to.
For the FBI to put manpower into investigating someone means they must suspect something and they'd pretty easily get a warrant anyway.
Or it could be that someone with connections in the FBI, has a beef with someone else, and has the FBI investigate them for no reason, other than to see what they find out that can be used against this person they don't like,.
Or perhaps they use their internet data mining program, and they find that your name comes up in many posts discussing things with keywords like FBI, and suspect, and that you have been to Hamburg and Prague, and though you haven't really done anything suspicious they decided to investigate you for awhile.. just cuz.. they may get lucky... Kind of like a cop poking around in your vehicle after stopping you for 5 miles over the speed limit.
I find taxidermy in general disturbing.. even a hunters trophy (film has been around how long ?).. it's just macabre.. and then I have to wonder about the people who chose this as a profession (or hobby), how do you come to a decision that this is something you would like to do ?
And what the hell is wrong with natural selection ?
You want a horror story... Excite, which had (at least in my opinion) pretty reliable web mail.. decided to "upgrade" their email interface, and have it hosted by a company called Bluetie.. You would figure in such a change that you might at the most be down for a day, maybe two... 33 days is what it took before I finally got any email coming into my inbox.. Now for me this was just a side account, but I had some things tied to it that I liked to keep tabs on.. but there were many people who had excites email tied into their businesses, and personal things like banking and job searches.. many many unhappy people dumped excite for good over this fiasco.. Worst planned and poorly executed upgrade I have ever seen.
Well you are supposed to get kind of a gist of what they stand for in all the campaigning.. but it certainly would be nice to know who they have in mind for certain posts.. I think it's a bit much to flat out declare people as "the one" for any given position, but they could make lists of people they like.. It at least shows that they know who is good at what.
If for example, a candidate was to say that they had Condoleezza Rice on their list of candidates for Secretary of State.. You would know that that person is a moron with no leadership skills and doesn't know what the Secretary of State does... I mean if the Secretary of State is just a "secretary" who takes dictation.., well then maybe she would be an excellent choice.. but I don't think Secretary means that in this case.
Pro golfers often take lessons almost as if they were beginners.. It's easy for a golfer to develop bad habits and relearning the proper techniques is what makes them good.. Most amateur golfers perhaps take lessons when first learning the game, and that's it.. If you learned the game, and played every day without any further instruction you would play fairly well, but if you retake lessons occasionally and play every day you will get so much better.
They don't require a warrant to stand next to you and listen to your conversations in public either, but if they placed a bug on your clothes that would be ok ?
The questions are...
... Is being a Tibetan under Chinese rule worse than being Chinese under Chinese rule ?
... Is being a Tibetan under previous Tibetan rule worse than now ?
... Would a new Tibetan ruled Tibet be self sustaining and better ?
... What is really behind westerners wanting to "free Tibet" ? .. what is to be gained ? ..
I really don't think most people have thought anything through, beyond this idealist vision of freedom fighting for "the cause".. If it happens it just might suck.. but hey they'd be free.
Hey, I know gas prices have been high.. but sheesh man, break out the mower will ya ?.. Then maybe you won't mind who looks at your backyard.