IMPOSSIBLE. After reading slashdot articles on windows server being more secure than RedHat and windows costing less in total ownership than Redhat or Suse, to believe windows people would admit to anything as spyware being impossible to remove is absurd!
Forgive me for my lack of ignorance on the following questions, but if windows, say in longhorn would just stop allowing everything and anyone but admin to install or execute files, wouldnt that solve the spyware problem? Is that actually a hard thing to do?
If windows is more secure than linux, conducted in a real study but a 3rd party checking everything up the wahzoo imaginable then I'll believe it and give kudos to windows. BUT this isnt that study and here's why
1) There's more than one flava of windows like there is more than one flava of linux. I want results from windows xp, windows 2000 and even windows nt along with Suse Enterprise, Mandrake and whatever other popular distribution is out there.
2) As educated as they may be you clearly have 2 biased guys. One for windows and the other for linux who ODDLY converted over after one study. This may be really tough but I want a study done by people who isn't biased and who don't give a rats ass one way or the other which side wins out, maybe a mac user would be good for this?;)
3)THE RESULTS NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED. Granted I skimmed the article so I do not know if they did this but I want written in a paper, like any other good scientific study, who broke in at what time, what DOCUMENTED vulneribilities exist, did it cause any down time to the server and how long and what was done, if any to correct it any known bugs(i.e. sending in a bug report and responsiveness to it).
So until reports with at least these criteria gets published, I'm gonna ignore any study done in this nature.
That, my man, is why he did this interview. You think MS will send a guy that'll make the company look bad for an interview on a forum that's very heavily unix favored? NO, there sending in the big guns, the politician sweet talkers that delves on some of the issues, never gets to in depth to the question cause that will only lead to incrimination of course and in the process makes the company look good.
He may be a great guy personally, I don't know but all the more better or the company since now people have someon they can sympathize with. So my final take in all this, action speaks louder than words.......
I'm not. This is a MODERATED interview and granted yes alot of tough questions were aked, but would of been much mor worse left in the hands of us masses:)
I've read the first part of the interview, got tired and skimmed but what i didn't quite like was the interviewee slipping in his own questions into the fold. Just because your interviewing the guy shouldnt give you special priveledges. Put your questions on the forum to have it never be seen again like everyone elses!
The grammy awards is a sick joke. I'm sorry but any award show that disgraces one of the greatest rock and roll bands of all time, led zeppelin, by giving them a lifetime achievement award and only mention it in passing needs to be thrown out the window.
And the winner of best hard rock album goes to.....enimem! *appluad, now here comes the 30 minute looooong speech while hundreds of other awards scrolls along the bottom including best flatulant album of the year award*
I'm quite content with ps2 and even more content that I discovered WOW so i say da hell with xbox:). They can release it yesterday for all I care, still won't change the fact I'm not buying one.....
I'm not going to get into any debate on security but all I'm going to say, I would not trust anyone at MS saying there product is safer as much as I would trust someone at RedHat claiming their product is safer. It's their company, of course they're gonna say what people want to hear.....
I have to ask is why does Microsoft feel the need to branch out into so many different areas(i.e xbox, mp3 service, msn)?
It seems to me that Windows operating system suffors because more effort is being made to tackle realms maybe Microsoft has no business being in the first place instead of addressing user concerns in current os' in an timely matter and getting longhorn to be released some time this decade, minus all the features such as a new file system of course.
Is the profits from these other tasks worth the while to abandon the very thing that got Microsoft where it is in the first place, it's user friendly os?
thanks for responding. i would of replied sooner but i was away on a mini-vaca:).
ideally i would like to be in a company where i can start off with basic it stuff and then have the opportunity to grow in the position to management. That excludes my current job because its a small company, only 2 of us(though we can easily hire 2 more and still have enough work to go on) and literally no where to grow to..
Can I handle it? Probaby not. haha On that note I think I can get by. It's one of those things I won't know until I try and depends on the company too. I can see myself being happy in one company as management but hating it in another......
I'm trying to go with drunk driving is a bigger problem then people ever realize or care to give notice to but somehow strangely goes relatively unpunished and by no means should ever be compared to something as talking on a cell phone. That article too was going for exaggerated effect but I guess that's ok after all
"In 2001, more than half a million people were injured in crashes where police reported that alcohol was present -- an average of one person injured approximately every 2 minutes"
So all I was trying to say, you can't compare talking on a cell phone to that.
I'm not sure about more impaired now than drunks. Are you impaired..yes. Do you have the ability to become unimpaired if you want to unlike when your drunk or high...yes.
More people die from drunk driving in a year than all of those that died in vietnam.
So until I start hearing cell phones cause as many or more deaths/mangled bodies than drunk driving(which it is estimated more than 50% of fatal car accidents involve alcohol), I wouldn't start comparing the two....
That M$ does not care about security, they only care about stuffing their fat wallets with more and more molah!
Sure you can make a valid argument that why should M$ patch boot leg software but I wanted to state what should of been obvious:), and my disdain of companies crying foul when they only make 4.8 billion instead of 5.4 billion(note figures are not real)
Me persoanlly, I would rather go with the good guy strategy and offer software updates to all who have my software in an valid attempt to make my product securer and make my product look good in the process.
I dunno if this has been mentioned yet or not, but one good thing I would think is to know the personality types of your employees and manage them accordingly. In other words, you can't manage everyone the same way.
Some people like to be left alone with little supervision as possible (like me) and others need there hands to be held sometimes to get along.
So I would think the trick is to get to know your employees well, and know which buttons to push at the right time to get them to be as productive as possible.
Now my question is, if you or anyone else reading know, how will a manager help you on the job market? Will it make you more marketable, less marketable or doesnt matter?
Don't get me wrong I'm years away from from any position like that IF I ever get that opportunity but my marketibility is what manners and if it helps out, I would definately keep my options open.
the good ol' abcdef keyboard layout? or for my cell phone, the reliable abc123 layout? see other standards exist but why bring anarchy in a world of peace;)
After nearly 20 inches of snow and below windshield temperatures nearly all week, now is not a good time to be telling me that I'm gonna be doomed by global warming:).
Shiz you can at least wait until we're experiencing a unprecedented heat wave to get my attention....
yup. that's the case with life. lets say a fullproof system to the problem is discovered and implemented world wide. the problem will still exist because of the weaklink, the user.
sure education is key but even if you shove it down people's throats, their will be those who ignore or those who can't grasp the concept thus the problem begins anew again......
moral of the story, knock off the human beings, the world will be safe a secure:)
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They have. Trouble is, there is no one else to vote for. That's why voter turnout is so low.
I agree with you but society is so messed up that even if the good people started running for election, no one would believe him/her anyways and I garauntee that person wouldn't even get elected because most good people are not sweet talkers. You may hate a candidate but if he's a good sweet talker, public will love him to death. Look at Hitler, look at Clinton. Of cousre Clinton is not anywhere near a Hitler but he could do no wrong in the public's eyes...
Not to mention most decent human beings don't want to deal with the political bs/back stabbing and what not so they wont run.....
So this doesn't bother anyone else that the most "covert" agency in our government is publishing reports to the world like it was handing out slices of bread?
Way to not draw attention to yourselfs.
Oh well I don't really care. I don't trust those bastards anyways;)
Well my question is if these people say hear arguments, death threats and what not and now someone gets murdered, should they be held liable because they knew something could happen but didn't act upon it?
Of course they won't be but all I'm saying if you are gonna eavesdrop, you should take ALL responsibilities that come along with it....
I definately agree with ya. I mean you only need one degree to become a lawyer and get the big bucks meanwhile you can study your ass off for years on end, get as many certifications as possible and they still want to pay you a shade above or even below a store manager for retail who has no degree credentials. The system is all screwed up.
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Forgive me for my lack of ignorance on the following questions, but if windows, say in longhorn would just stop allowing everything and anyone but admin to install or execute files, wouldnt that solve the spyware problem? Is that actually a hard thing to do?
1) There's more than one flava of windows like there is more than one flava of linux. I want results from windows xp, windows 2000 and even windows nt along with Suse Enterprise, Mandrake and whatever other popular distribution is out there.
2) As educated as they may be you clearly have 2 biased guys. One for windows and the other for linux who ODDLY converted over after one study. This may be really tough but I want a study done by people who isn't biased and who don't give a rats ass one way or the other which side wins out, maybe a mac user would be good for this? ;)
3)THE RESULTS NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED. Granted I skimmed the article so I do not know if they did this but I want written in a paper, like any other good scientific study, who broke in at what time, what DOCUMENTED vulneribilities exist, did it cause any down time to the server and how long and what was done, if any to correct it any known bugs(i.e. sending in a bug report and responsiveness to it).
So until reports with at least these criteria gets published, I'm gonna ignore any study done in this nature.
He may be a great guy personally, I don't know but all the more better or the company since now people have someon they can sympathize with. So my final take in all this, action speaks louder than words.......
I mean i'm not, we all know why he is pushing it but beta? My experience with beta anything has never been a good one......
I've read the first part of the interview, got tired and skimmed but what i didn't quite like was the interviewee slipping in his own questions into the fold. Just because your interviewing the guy shouldnt give you special priveledges. Put your questions on the forum to have it never be seen again like everyone elses!
And the winner of best hard rock album goes to.....enimem! *appluad, now here comes the 30 minute looooong speech while hundreds of other awards scrolls along the bottom including best flatulant album of the year award*
I'm quite content with ps2 and even more content that I discovered WOW so i say da hell with xbox :). They can release it yesterday for all I care, still won't change the fact I'm not buying one.....
The Chinese government has enough power to shut down internet cafes but yet they still can't keep their population size in check....go figure.
I'm not going to get into any debate on security but all I'm going to say, I would not trust anyone at MS saying there product is safer as much as I would trust someone at RedHat claiming their product is safer. It's their company, of course they're gonna say what people want to hear.....
Coke will be suing Pepsi or vice versa for displaying commericals on the same telivision station it's advertising on.....
I have to ask is why does Microsoft feel the need to branch out into so many different areas(i.e xbox, mp3 service, msn)?
It seems to me that Windows operating system suffors because more effort is being made to tackle realms maybe Microsoft has no business being in the first place instead of addressing user concerns in current os' in an timely matter and getting longhorn to be released some time this decade, minus all the features such as a new file system of course.
Is the profits from these other tasks worth the while to abandon the very thing that got Microsoft where it is in the first place, it's user friendly os?
thanks for responding. i would of replied sooner but i was away on a mini-vaca :).
ideally i would like to be in a company where i can start off with basic it stuff and then have the opportunity to grow in the position to management. That excludes my current job because its a small company, only 2 of us(though we can easily hire 2 more and still have enough work to go on) and literally no where to grow to..
Can I handle it? Probaby not. haha On that note I think I can get by. It's one of those things I won't know until I try and depends on the company too. I can see myself being happy in one company as management but hating it in another......
I'm trying to go with drunk driving is a bigger problem then people ever realize or care to give notice to but somehow strangely goes relatively unpunished and by no means should ever be compared to something as talking on a cell phone. That article too was going for exaggerated effect but I guess that's ok after all
"In 2001, more than half a million people were injured in crashes where police reported that alcohol was present -- an average of one person injured approximately every 2 minutes"
So all I was trying to say, you can't compare talking on a cell phone to that.
I'm not sure about more impaired now than drunks. Are you impaired..yes. Do you have the ability to become unimpaired if you want to unlike when your drunk or high...yes.
More people die from drunk driving in a year than all of those that died in vietnam.
So until I start hearing cell phones cause as many or more deaths/mangled bodies than drunk driving(which it is estimated more than 50% of fatal car accidents involve alcohol), I wouldn't start comparing the two....
Sure you can make a valid argument that why should M$ patch boot leg software but I wanted to state what should of been obvious :), and my disdain of companies crying foul when they only make 4.8 billion instead of 5.4 billion(note figures are not real)
Me persoanlly, I would rather go with the good guy strategy and offer software updates to all who have my software in an valid attempt to make my product securer and make my product look good in the process.
Some people like to be left alone with little supervision as possible (like me) and others need there hands to be held sometimes to get along.
So I would think the trick is to get to know your employees well, and know which buttons to push at the right time to get them to be as productive as possible.
Don't get me wrong I'm years away from from any position like that IF I ever get that opportunity but my marketibility is what manners and if it helps out, I would definately keep my options open.
the good ol' abcdef keyboard layout? or for my cell phone, the reliable abc123 layout? ;)
see other standards exist but why bring anarchy in a world of peace
Shiz you can at least wait until we're experiencing a unprecedented heat wave to get my attention....
sure education is key but even if you shove it down people's throats, their will be those who ignore or those who can't grasp the concept thus the problem begins anew again......
moral of the story, knock off the human beings, the world will be safe a secure :)
Dear People at Coca Cola,
Please stop sending up public service announcement with its only intent to shamelessley promote your product!
We the IT community will not tolerate it! You have many other means of advertising. Please do not use our public forums!
Thank you and have a great day
Love,
The kind people at Pepsi
I agree with you but society is so messed up that even if the good people started running for election, no one would believe him/her anyways and I garauntee that person wouldn't even get elected because most good people are not sweet talkers. You may hate a candidate but if he's a good sweet talker, public will love him to death. Look at Hitler, look at Clinton. Of cousre Clinton is not anywhere near a Hitler but he could do no wrong in the public's eyes...
Not to mention most decent human beings don't want to deal with the political bs/back stabbing and what not so they wont run.....
So this doesn't bother anyone else that the most "covert" agency in our government is publishing reports to the world like it was handing out slices of bread? Way to not draw attention to yourselfs. Oh well I don't really care. I don't trust those bastards anyways ;)
Well my question is if these people say hear arguments, death threats and what not and now someone gets murdered, should they be held liable because they knew something could happen but didn't act upon it?
Of course they won't be but all I'm saying if you are gonna eavesdrop, you should take ALL responsibilities that come along with it....
I definately agree with ya. I mean you only need one degree to become a lawyer and get the big bucks meanwhile you can study your ass off for years on end, get as many certifications as possible and they still want to pay you a shade above or even below a store manager for retail who has no degree credentials. The system is all screwed up.