Re:California's Wimpy Everclear
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Hacking Vodka
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Yup we do have lame laws. That's why I import it from TX once a year. (for personal use only). -nB
Re:Better than a Volcano
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Hacking Vodka
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Everclear. 190 proof corn ethanol (95%) 2 shots in an 8 oz glass. fill glass with Gateraid. drink. you will be drunk befor the glass is gone. at the end of the glass you've had about 5 shots of regular booze. -nB
It works by allowing the data to exist in video memory only long enough to render to the screen. It then fills the video mem with something else (a logo graphic), but prevents renering to the screen. Pretty tight control of the video API (windows only??) Anyway, if you do a screen cap while the page is rendering to the screen (couple microsecond window) you'll see that it has not fully covered the memory over yet and there will be gaps which reveal your source document. Enough samples and you could recreate the doc. (Brutal PITA if the doc is big though). -nB
In the online world, it is completely impossible to show somebody something without similtaneously giving them a copy of that same something.
No, it's not. These guys (http://www.authentica.com/) have done quite a good job of document control and management. I can show you whatever I want and you can't see it once you're done and I revoke access. (requires a plug in for acrobat to use).
We use this system to control restricted access and above documents at my office. Not even a screen capture works!
I, in fact, do like having things open 24x7. The catch to that is that my org in the corp I work for is global. We have sites in the US, Canada, China (TW), and the Phillipines. Since my life is 24x7, I want my workd to be 24x7. If I relocate and my live becomes 5 9's then I suppose I'd be fine with smallville. (Still need broadband though). -nB
And I'm a red living in a blue state. Other than local family obligations I've often wanted to move. I visited my wife's great aunt in Wilsie Kansas a couple months back and aside from how damn flat it was I though the people were nicer, the weather pleasent, and the going easy, except for the lack of high tech (I am a tech addict, working at one of the highest teck firms in the industry). Move some of the R&D out there and I'll consider following. -nB
Yes but: Because so much of the population is so packed into such a small area, many of our (open land people) rights are trampled. We have our water rights heisted, we have measures that only help the Bay Area pass even though the entire state has to foot the bill. *Fuck Them*. The only two laws I want to see enacted are: split the state into three, and only one law per vote (no riders). -nB
I live in Kalifornia. . .
If I did not have substantial family ties here I *would* move out of state (in my case my horse finished first and I still hate my state).
if you look at this map : http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/mapR072.htm
you will see that Proposition 72 was voted down (a Good Thing TM) by 50.9 vs 49.1%. Green is the 49.1% of the state. How the hell can anything be fairly voted on when 22% of the counties effectively control 50% of the vote. The ratios get even worse if you look at land area vs. vote%.
I hate^H^H^H^H greatly dislike how liberal my state is. But at the same time I greatly value my proximity to my family.
[/frothingAtTheMouthRant] br-nB
serious response to funny comment: The deal is that the Itanium2's are better(relative) processors when everything is compiled for them. The hitch is that in terms of price for performance Itaniums are near the bottom of the pile (highest performance != best value).
Finally, in this situation (price be damned), there is not any reason to worry about value, just performance. Thus Itanium wins.
-nB
my inital point is that many companies perception (mine included) assume that in order to be involved in open source they'd have to open the source for the driver as well as the firmware image. While this may not be the case, it is the perception that counts. -nB
"I can understand why they wouldn't want to give away their competitive advantage.
Now other drives (network cards for example) I see no reason to not open source it."
For the very same reason. Just because you arent the high visibility of top end video cards doesn't mean there arent "trade secrets" in your sourcecode. Do you think 3Com wants to share IP with Cisco? (or Vice versa) -nB
Because we all know the competition could never go out and buy the product and get the driver from the included CD, or just download it from the manufacturer's site. I'll bite the flamebait (That or you are ignorant of the way the real world works:p ):
The perception of the companies is that to be in an OSS distribution you must include the *source* of the firmware. A simple binary download does very little to help the competition, a source library, however, tells volumes. Devs tend to use names and structures that "make sense" in the context of the hardware in question. Add to that the specific algorithms being used to program and/or configure the device along with the comments in the source and you have a goldmine of information.
The consumer might as well be considered enemy hands. You are correct, sir.
-nB
I think the real concern of the companies is that often drivers contain lots of information about the architecture of the hardware, that if it were to fall into "enemy hands" would compromise valuable IP assets that are likely trade secrete rather than patented. I know this to be the case where I work. -nB
O.k. I'm going to admint my dumbness. .. what is up with the 'one!!1!11!' kind of crap anyway? I was just learning the proper use of WTF and OMG and other TLA's.
Whatever happened to proper hacking?
been on the net since 1989 and it's peak was in '91 -nB
" Actually, 3.51 had a reputation for being relatively bulletproof."
Yes it did, and in fact I still used it personally for a very important server for quite a while. The point is that there are a ton of exploits available even from a user level. The best part about this ATM was the existance of a floppy drive and keyboard&mouse port behind a relatively flimsy lock and piece of sheetmetal on the service hatch (not the money side of the box). Though I never got a chance to sit down and have a chat with this machine, just think what someone could have done if they had long duration access (say working the night shift)? -nB
Parent post is not a troll, it is quite true that "I can't wait for a virus to hit these ATMs" is quite irresponsible. The upheaval it causes in the financal sector is quite massive and in the past has proven quite a headach. Re: blaster and Canada? national bank. -nB
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Yup we do have lame laws. That's why I import it from TX once a year. (for personal use only).
-nB
Everclear.
190 proof corn ethanol (95%)
2 shots in an 8 oz glass.
fill glass with Gateraid.
drink.
you will be drunk befor the glass is gone.
at the end of the glass you've had about 5 shots of regular booze.
-nB
It works by allowing the data to exist in video memory only long enough to render to the screen. It then fills the video mem with something else (a logo graphic), but prevents renering to the screen. Pretty tight control of the video API (windows only??) Anyway, if you do a screen cap while the page is rendering to the screen (couple microsecond window) you'll see that it has not fully covered the memory over yet and there will be gaps which reveal your source document. Enough samples and you could recreate the doc. (Brutal PITA if the doc is big though).
-nB
In the online world, it is completely impossible to show somebody something without similtaneously giving them a copy of that same something.
No, it's not. These guys (http://www.authentica.com/) have done quite a good job of document control and management. I can show you whatever I want and you can't see it once you're done and I revoke access. (requires a plug in for acrobat to use).
We use this system to control restricted access and above documents at my office. Not even a screen capture works!
-nB
>I have a shiny spoon, should I post a story?
yes
That sucker is positively tiny!
looks like a toy.
-nB
OT, but hey:
Wow. Their jets are far sexier than their cars. . . I really hate their cars, so ugly.
-nB
" Most Boring Picture Ever Taken
True. Cool use of Flash though."
Exactally what I was thinking. I would like the stitch program and the Flash interface. I think I can manage the rest myself.
-nB
I, in fact, do like having things open 24x7.
The catch to that is that my org in the corp I work for is global. We have sites in the US, Canada, China (TW), and the Phillipines. Since my life is 24x7, I want my workd to be 24x7. If I relocate and my live becomes 5 9's then I suppose I'd be fine with smallville. (Still need broadband though).
-nB
"(FYI, I'm a Blue living in a Red state)"
And I'm a red living in a blue state.
Other than local family obligations I've often wanted to move. I visited my wife's great aunt in Wilsie Kansas a couple months back and aside from how damn flat it was I though the people were nicer, the weather pleasent, and the going easy, except for the lack of high tech (I am a tech addict, working at one of the highest teck firms in the industry). Move some of the R&D out there and I'll consider following.
-nB
"how many Republicans in California and Democrats in Texan would vote if it was a popular vote?"
;)
Damn near all of them I'd think
-nB
Yes but:
Because so much of the population is so packed into such a small area, many of our (open land people) rights are trampled. We have our water rights heisted, we have measures that only help the Bay Area pass even though the entire state has to foot the bill. *Fuck Them*. The only two laws I want to see enacted are: split the state into three, and only one law per vote (no riders).
-nB
I live in Kalifornia. . . If I did not have substantial family ties here I *would* move out of state (in my case my horse finished first and I still hate my state). if you look at this map : http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/prop/mapR072.htm
you will see that Proposition 72 was voted down (a Good Thing TM) by 50.9 vs 49.1%. Green is the 49.1% of the state. How the hell can anything be fairly voted on when 22% of the counties effectively control 50% of the vote. The ratios get even worse if you look at land area vs. vote%.
I hate^H^H^H^H greatly dislike how liberal my state is. But at the same time I greatly value my proximity to my family.
[/frothingAtTheMouthRant]
br-nB
I second the motion.
/. political bickering
All in favor say aye: *ayeeeeee*
All opposed say nay: _nay_
It's a tie vote, please resume
-nB
serious response to funny comment:
The deal is that the Itanium2's are better(relative) processors when everything is compiled for them. The hitch is that in terms of price for performance Itaniums are near the bottom of the pile (highest performance != best value).
Finally, in this situation (price be damned), there is not any reason to worry about value, just performance. Thus Itanium wins.
-nB
my inital point is that many companies perception (mine included) assume that in order to be involved in open source they'd have to open the source for the driver as well as the firmware image. While this may not be the case, it is the perception that counts.
-nB
"I can understand why they wouldn't want to give away their competitive advantage.
Now other drives (network cards for example) I see no reason to not open source it."
For the very same reason. Just because you arent the high visibility of top end video cards doesn't mean there arent "trade secrets" in your sourcecode.
Do you think 3Com wants to share IP with Cisco? (or Vice versa)
-nB
Because we all know the competition could never go out and buy the product and get the driver from the included CD, or just download it from the manufacturer's site. :p ):
I'll bite the flamebait (That or you are ignorant of the way the real world works
The perception of the companies is that to be in an OSS distribution you must include the *source* of the firmware. A simple binary download does very little to help the competition, a source library, however, tells volumes. Devs tend to use names and structures that "make sense" in the context of the hardware in question. Add to that the specific algorithms being used to program and/or configure the device along with the comments in the source and you have a goldmine of information.
The consumer might as well be considered enemy hands.
You are correct, sir.
-nB
I think the real concern of the companies is that often drivers contain lots of information about the architecture of the hardware, that if it were to fall into "enemy hands" would compromise valuable IP assets that are likely trade secrete rather than patented.
I know this to be the case where I work.
-nB
O.k. I'm going to admint my dumbness. . .
what is up with the 'one!!1!11!' kind of crap anyway? I was just learning the proper use of WTF and OMG and other TLA's.
Whatever happened to proper hacking?
been on the net since 1989 and it's peak was in '91 -nB
" Actually, 3.51 had a reputation for being relatively bulletproof."
Yes it did, and in fact I still used it personally for a very important server for quite a while. The point is that there are a ton of exploits available even from a user level. The best part about this ATM was the existance of a floppy drive and keyboard&mouse port behind a relatively flimsy lock and piece of sheetmetal on the service hatch (not the money side of the box). Though I never got a chance to sit down and have a chat with this machine, just think what someone could have done if they had long duration access (say working the night shift)?
-nB
Parent post is not a troll, it is quite true that "I can't wait for a virus to hit these ATMs" is quite irresponsible. The upheaval it causes in the financal sector is quite massive and in the past has proven quite a headach.
Re: blaster and Canada? national bank.
-nB
I've seen an ATM at Target (big retailoer in US) reboot after a "power interruption" and it was running NT3.51 :o
-nB
Sure you can get replacements. One of the best things going is opening up boxes, stripping them, and selling the components seperately.
-nB
"it was about two years old at the time, so I don't know what this guy is complaining about... unless it's differentin the states"
It is different in the states. Here after 90 days M$ says send in your unit (at your expense) and $99.00 and we will fix or replace it for you.
-nB