The harm will be drought or floods or harmful infects where food grows. That's all it will take to cause big problems. Just a wee bit warmer overall can have big impacts. Can they be specifically predicted? No. Can they be generally and prudently expressed as avoidable risks? Yes.
If you get drunk and drive you may have a serious accident. OK, it didn't happen last Saturday night..... So it's never going to happen? Not so. It will happen at some point to someone who drinks and drives. The more who do it, the more it will happen. The risk is real. The risk is avoidable.
A prudent culture would need that avoidable risk.
So he was of by a handful of years. He was warning of a possible serious consequence of climate change. One that now looks more certain than ever. Still very serious...And not irrelevant because it's a few years later than one scientist earned might be possible.
Step back from the tree and see the forest.
Most people don't travel far by car. They fly. But even then the EVs from Tesla and from Europe and China will be doing 400 miles on a charge in a couple of years.
It will be just one more missed opportunity for America. The are so many, thanks to vested interests blocking innovation.
Unlikely. The US is getting steadily dumber, not smarter. Trump is proof if Bush II wasn't enough. Obama was an attempt to recover from The Stupid, but the Congress stayed Stupid, so the recovery attempt failed.
America is dead, but it's big and some parts are still alive. The corpse will take a long time to rot.
... And all the while they'll be praying to God to save them from the consequences of the climate change they could have avoided.
No wonder America is sliding steadily backward.
It hardly matters. 600 million under / un-employed people still need to eat.
Without a universal basic income the depression and unrest this will cause will dwarf anything seen before by anyone alive since WWII.
My Nissan Leaf supports DAB, but I live in New Zealand and there isn't any DAB broadcasting as far as I know. But I rarely listen to FM either because the hilly topography means range is smaller and coverage poor...And any FM networks aren't in the same frequency from town to town and you don't where they are.
I'll play music from my phone via Bluetooth if I turn on anything at all.
True. And every automaker has lemons. I'd never buy a car from Ford or GM, for example. Been there. Never again. As for electric vehicles generally, the Nissan Leaf is gaining a reputation as the car mechanics never see because they so rarely ever need one. All the stuff that breaks or requires maintenance in regular cars doesn't even exist in electric cars: no belts (cam, alternator, fan etc) no radiator (so no coolant to leak), no fan, no oil or spark plugs because no combustion, no gearbox or transmission fluid because the electric motors are more powerful then gas motors, so don't need gears to amplify the torque......An electric motors are incredibly durable.
There is almost nothing to break in a pure EV.
I own one. I'll never go back to a gas or diesel car.
It's not contemporary. Sixty years a long time.
I forgot to mention this other really significant figure from 1956 that no one has previously talked about. If we just keep taking about him, he'll eventually seen real in a few hundred years. Then, in 2306 someone can invent a detailed account of his life, just the Gospel according to John.
The "record" of what a supposed "Jesus" said at his supposed crucifixion was invented 350 years after the supposed event.
Quick! Let's write down a transcript from a event in 1665! Today, we call that historical fiction (at best).
Voting to reinforce a bias implies all commentary is biased.
I say that isn't true. A comment confident with veritably correct scientific findings isn't biased. A reader voting down comments they are ignorant or delusional isn't "reinforcing a bias" it's downgrading ignorance and delusion.
The problem becomes acute when to many people are ignorant and / or delusional.
We have founded our modern civilisation on rationality and intellectual integrity. Opposing that are all the forces claiming a lie is true and / or your don't need evidence to back up what your believe.
If those forces (essentially ignorance and blind faith) win, we are ALL screwed.
This is why climate change deniers and their fellow travelers truly are the enemy of our entire civilisation. The science now could not be more clear about climate change. The world is now heating rapidly in real time year on year. In the face of this emergency they still deny all the evidence.
This is a fight to death against stupid and blind faith....
Yeah. That delusional religiosity in America about the rapture is the mirror image of the jihadi 72 virgins delusion.
They are both, functionally, insane.
This makes sense. But fails to deal with the property problem. A city or province or country owns it's roads and can put solar under on them. It doesn't own all the buildings.
So what makes sense from an engineering point of view is scuppered by our increasingly anachronistic ideas around property.
Those ideas will be sorely tested as the seas begin to cover the coasts in the decades ahead.
You haven't got a clue, but they won't stop you or even show you down.
This technology has far more potential for being useful and good then any submarine, bomber or nuclear missile.
Now THERE is a mountain of wasted money.
Good point. The cost of one useless nuclear submarine could probably pave an Interstate in "expensive" solar road.
Americans waste hundreds of billions every year on their blow-back mitigation military and then moan about the cost of anything that actually does some good for ordinary people, like public health care or clean energy.
For what the US military costs every American could have free health care and good schools.
Using social networking quickly exposes one to the mentally ill trolls, climate deniers, generally ignorant folks and opinionated know-how nothing's who you normally would be able to easily avoid IRL.
That can be depressing. So much stupid.
Why is it that America is so susceptible to the climate denier lies while most of the rest of the world just gets on with dealing with it?
Is there a special be-dumb additive in the water?
No. A lot of this is Bush's fault. He set off the debt bomb by launching two major wars and cutting taxes at the same time....and the GOP House has kept it exploding every day since.
Some things take longer than a day to unfold. I know a lot of people have trouble getting their mind around that. You're just one of many.
No. A lot of this is Bush's fault. He set off the debt bomb by launching two major wars and cutting taxes at the same time....and the GOP House has kept it exploding every day since.... And blamed Obama for it, knowing full well it was all their doing..... And people actually voted for these GOP saboteurs.
Incredible when you do to think about it.
Some things take longer than a day to unfold. I know a lot of people have trouble getting their mind around that. You're just one of many.
Totally agree. My kids have had a much harder time then I had. The jobs I used to get when young either don't exist now or the PSU and conditions are SO BAD you wouldn't want your kids doing them.
More and more those shit menial jobs are being automated, too.
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I totally understand most people don't like watching a 3D movie on TV. But I'm not one of them. I love it.
The harm will be drought or floods or harmful infects where food grows. That's all it will take to cause big problems. Just a wee bit warmer overall can have big impacts. Can they be specifically predicted? No. Can they be generally and prudently expressed as avoidable risks? Yes. If you get drunk and drive you may have a serious accident. OK, it didn't happen last Saturday night..... So it's never going to happen? Not so. It will happen at some point to someone who drinks and drives. The more who do it, the more it will happen. The risk is real. The risk is avoidable. A prudent culture would need that avoidable risk.
So he was of by a handful of years. He was warning of a possible serious consequence of climate change. One that now looks more certain than ever. Still very serious...And not irrelevant because it's a few years later than one scientist earned might be possible. Step back from the tree and see the forest.
Most people don't travel far by car. They fly. But even then the EVs from Tesla and from Europe and China will be doing 400 miles on a charge in a couple of years. It will be just one more missed opportunity for America. The are so many, thanks to vested interests blocking innovation.
Unlikely. The US is getting steadily dumber, not smarter. Trump is proof if Bush II wasn't enough. Obama was an attempt to recover from The Stupid, but the Congress stayed Stupid, so the recovery attempt failed. America is dead, but it's big and some parts are still alive. The corpse will take a long time to rot.
... And all the while they'll be praying to God to save them from the consequences of the climate change they could have avoided. No wonder America is sliding steadily backward.
It hardly matters. 600 million under / un-employed people still need to eat. Without a universal basic income the depression and unrest this will cause will dwarf anything seen before by anyone alive since WWII.
My Nissan Leaf supports DAB, but I live in New Zealand and there isn't any DAB broadcasting as far as I know. But I rarely listen to FM either because the hilly topography means range is smaller and coverage poor...And any FM networks aren't in the same frequency from town to town and you don't where they are. I'll play music from my phone via Bluetooth if I turn on anything at all.
True. And every automaker has lemons. I'd never buy a car from Ford or GM, for example. Been there. Never again. As for electric vehicles generally, the Nissan Leaf is gaining a reputation as the car mechanics never see because they so rarely ever need one. All the stuff that breaks or requires maintenance in regular cars doesn't even exist in electric cars: no belts (cam, alternator, fan etc) no radiator (so no coolant to leak), no fan, no oil or spark plugs because no combustion, no gearbox or transmission fluid because the electric motors are more powerful then gas motors, so don't need gears to amplify the torque......An electric motors are incredibly durable. There is almost nothing to break in a pure EV. I own one. I'll never go back to a gas or diesel car.
It's not contemporary. Sixty years a long time. I forgot to mention this other really significant figure from 1956 that no one has previously talked about. If we just keep taking about him, he'll eventually seen real in a few hundred years. Then, in 2306 someone can invent a detailed account of his life, just the Gospel according to John.
The "record" of what a supposed "Jesus" said at his supposed crucifixion was invented 350 years after the supposed event. Quick! Let's write down a transcript from a event in 1665! Today, we call that historical fiction (at best).
It's one-sided news. So not so much fake as propaganda.
Yeah. The NSA does the same kind of recruiting. Not news.
I'd say literate people. The book is still well known and available to all ages. ;-)
(Whew! Got that covered.)
Voting to reinforce a bias implies all commentary is biased. I say that isn't true. A comment confident with veritably correct scientific findings isn't biased. A reader voting down comments they are ignorant or delusional isn't "reinforcing a bias" it's downgrading ignorance and delusion. The problem becomes acute when to many people are ignorant and / or delusional. We have founded our modern civilisation on rationality and intellectual integrity. Opposing that are all the forces claiming a lie is true and / or your don't need evidence to back up what your believe. If those forces (essentially ignorance and blind faith) win, we are ALL screwed. This is why climate change deniers and their fellow travelers truly are the enemy of our entire civilisation. The science now could not be more clear about climate change. The world is now heating rapidly in real time year on year. In the face of this emergency they still deny all the evidence. This is a fight to death against stupid and blind faith....
Yeah. That delusional religiosity in America about the rapture is the mirror image of the jihadi 72 virgins delusion. They are both, functionally, insane.
This makes sense. But fails to deal with the property problem. A city or province or country owns it's roads and can put solar under on them. It doesn't own all the buildings. So what makes sense from an engineering point of view is scuppered by our increasingly anachronistic ideas around property. Those ideas will be sorely tested as the seas begin to cover the coasts in the decades ahead.
You haven't got a clue, but they won't stop you or even show you down. This technology has far more potential for being useful and good then any submarine, bomber or nuclear missile. Now THERE is a mountain of wasted money.
America is the King of Idiotic Boondoggles: submarines, aircraft carriers, nuclear missiles... and on and on and on....
Good point. The cost of one useless nuclear submarine could probably pave an Interstate in "expensive" solar road. Americans waste hundreds of billions every year on their blow-back mitigation military and then moan about the cost of anything that actually does some good for ordinary people, like public health care or clean energy. For what the US military costs every American could have free health care and good schools.
Using social networking quickly exposes one to the mentally ill trolls, climate deniers, generally ignorant folks and opinionated know-how nothing's who you normally would be able to easily avoid IRL. That can be depressing. So much stupid.
Why is it that America is so susceptible to the climate denier lies while most of the rest of the world just gets on with dealing with it? Is there a special be-dumb additive in the water?
No. A lot of this is Bush's fault. He set off the debt bomb by launching two major wars and cutting taxes at the same time....and the GOP House has kept it exploding every day since. Some things take longer than a day to unfold. I know a lot of people have trouble getting their mind around that. You're just one of many.
No. A lot of this is Bush's fault. He set off the debt bomb by launching two major wars and cutting taxes at the same time....and the GOP House has kept it exploding every day since.... And blamed Obama for it, knowing full well it was all their doing..... And people actually voted for these GOP saboteurs. Incredible when you do to think about it. Some things take longer than a day to unfold. I know a lot of people have trouble getting their mind around that. You're just one of many.
Totally agree. My kids have had a much harder time then I had. The jobs I used to get when young either don't exist now or the PSU and conditions are SO BAD you wouldn't want your kids doing them. More and more those shit menial jobs are being automated, too.