Television has existed for 70 years or whatever, and I still don't think it's art. Television has never asked for acceptance as art, nor has it ever given us any reason to view it as such.
I expect something more like genres of music for which the "pinnacle" of the genre will be considered to be pretty early-on (I'm thinking 1986-1994 or so for video games, but that may be colored by my age). Video games will become art at some interval after which video game creators view themselves as artists and respected artists from other genres enter the video game industry.
I'm a college student, and I'm amazed how many people (mostly girls) shell out big bucks for an underpowered 15" wintel laptop when they never, ever take it anywhere. As the proud owner of a great 12-incher, I honestly believe laptops are meant to run at 1024x768, and you can't really do that with anything much smaller.
That's the one thing that keeps laptops from overtaking desktops for day-to-day use - the fact of the matter is that only 25% of the population actually wants to take their computer somewhere.
...you know what we could actually do? We could think of each of our 10 fingers as being a 0 or 1 in a 10 digit, base 2 number. Hold the finger up, and you've got a 1, otherwise it's a 0. Thinking of our fingers as a binary number, we'd get 2^10 (that's 1024) digits, which is a good deal better than our measly 10 we get now. Of course, this catching on would require quite a meme. Can anybody reading this do it well?
> This reminds me of the various terms Eskimos have for snow.
This is an urban legend. Completely BS. We have half a dozen words for snow (try sleet, etc), and there is no language called Eskimo (there are hundreds of Inuit languages).
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which this rumor sprang from, is also BS and should be ignored considering both men's limited knowledge of Linguistics and poor research work. Language only has an ancillary, secondary effect on thought. However, thought has near complete control of language.
For more information, read the wikipedia article which should give you some more background. And please stop spreading the rumor.
Not just Steven Pinker, but every linguist I've ever talked to (I'm a student of Linguistics) will tell you to stop spreading this myth. At least half will tell you to also stop teaching the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. I reserve the right to flame anyone on slashdot who mentions the Great Eskimo Hoax.
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why couldn't Redhat Novell (also released a desktop linux distro today) wait ONE DAY so they could include Firefox 1.0 instead of one of the RC/PR series?
Granted, the Firefox team keeps changing their deadlines, but my PR (installed as a prepackaged binary for Slackware) crashes a few times a week. I would have waited a day if i was Redhat, considering how important I consider Firefox to the success of the FOSS movement, and the money and man-hours Redhat contributes to the Mozilla project.
I use Slack 10.0 on my desktop exclusively (also for hosting SSH). Though it's plenty good for servers, it's not very commerical, which is all I mean. No Slackware contracts for AT&T, yet.
- Kyle
I, the grandparent poster, use Slackware 10.0. I fscking love it. By "hobbyist" i mean, "not commerical." Though it would work just fine, I don't think pat's getting rich.
- kyle
"...one fed-up maintainer for a redundant Slackware package..."
Um, not exactly. Patrick, who is the guy quoted in TFA, is the ONLY person working on Slackware. The whole thing is his baby (ignoring all the GNU tools of course) and that's one reason I love it.
But back on topic, Slackware is definetly a hobbyist distro. I'd say that it's more likely you'll see a split between the two desktop environments, with RedHat making GNOME/Linux systems and SUSE/HP/etc. making KDE/Linux, than problems for either desktop. Nor is it a Good Thing. If that was the case, I wouldn't have Enlightenment.
If we're going to talk price, doesn't everyone here think this cheap laptop is a far better deal? Wireless card and twice the hard drive. Plus (and this is the best part) it's a useful computer! Oh yea, the screen's also way bigger. I know that size must be an issue for the sort of person that would buy one of of these PMCs, but all the same, it seems like a lot of money for how little you get.
considering that your screenname is an anagram from "gaye case 6677" (sorry couldn't resist) you sure seem to have something up your butt (excuse the pun) about homosexuals. i haven't ever seen anything graphic promoting homosexuality on mtv, with the exception of the kitschy, girl-on-girl stuff that american straight blokes seem to really get into. and you know nothing promotes homosexuality like encouraging straight guys to wank it to two girls instead of one. if i'm missing something, let me know. just my two cents.
the thing that really killed me about this one is how nobody could deliver the dialogue without_____delivering_____it______one______word__ ___at____a____time. Completely infuriating.
um, yea. TFA definetly doesn't include a photo. it's a sketch. anyways, all i was saying is that, like the iPod, a pretty thing with a nice interface (albeit, expensive, see "iPod", or, "tablet PC") can sell. hence, the distinction between a sketch (as if we didn't know what a table pc looks like) and a photo, which lets us know if it's pretty.
I was saying that (or at least thinking it) a few years ago about MP3 players competing against discmen. But, Steve and friends to the rescue! So I'll wait until somebody leaks the prototype photos before I make such a judgement.
it should be mentioned that IE is also based off Mosiac. From the "about":
Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic(TM); was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
the worst part of this post was that i had to open IE to find that info
I call bs. PATRIOT is an acyronym for Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001. USA PATRIOT Act Do you NOT see the whole part about obstructing terrorism?
The bill's function, as indicated by the damn name, is to intercept and obstruct terrorism. If congress passed a bill called "The Act for Killing Minorities" and in addition to giving the government the power to kill minorities, it contained tools for putting to death violent criminals who happened to be minorities, would you still support it because the evil daughter-killer you fear could be a minority. A flame-baitish example, I must admit. But all the same, I think the point is the same. All minorities aren't killers, and all dumbass webmasters who post copywrited material online aren't terrorists.
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I hope Gabe's kid chokes to death on an XBox controller. That way that shitty comic won't pollute the world anymore.
Television has existed for 70 years or whatever, and I still don't think it's art. Television has never asked for acceptance as art, nor has it ever given us any reason to view it as such.
I expect something more like genres of music for which the "pinnacle" of the genre will be considered to be pretty early-on (I'm thinking 1986-1994 or so for video games, but that may be colored by my age). Video games will become art at some interval after which video game creators view themselves as artists and respected artists from other genres enter the video game industry.
They have different meanings in Britain and the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion
I'm a college student, and I'm amazed how many people (mostly girls) shell out big bucks for an underpowered 15" wintel laptop when they never, ever take it anywhere. As the proud owner of a great 12-incher, I honestly believe laptops are meant to run at 1024x768, and you can't really do that with anything much smaller.
That's the one thing that keeps laptops from overtaking desktops for day-to-day use - the fact of the matter is that only 25% of the population actually wants to take their computer somewhere.
Where's the AC troll that blames China for everything when you need him?
...you know what we could actually do? We could think of each of our 10 fingers as being a 0 or 1 in a 10 digit, base 2 number. Hold the finger up, and you've got a 1, otherwise it's a 0. Thinking of our fingers as a binary number, we'd get 2^10 (that's 1024) digits, which is a good deal better than our measly 10 we get now. Of course, this catching on would require quite a meme. Can anybody reading this do it well?
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> This reminds me of the various terms Eskimos have for snow.
This is an urban legend. Completely BS. We have half a dozen words for snow (try sleet, etc), and there is no language called Eskimo (there are hundreds of Inuit languages).
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which this rumor sprang from, is also BS and should be ignored considering both men's limited knowledge of Linguistics and poor research work. Language only has an ancillary, secondary effect on thought. However, thought has near complete control of language.
For more information, read the wikipedia article which should give you some more background. And please stop spreading the rumor.
Not just Steven Pinker, but every linguist I've ever talked to (I'm a student of Linguistics) will tell you to stop spreading this myth. At least half will tell you to also stop teaching the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. I reserve the right to flame anyone on slashdot who mentions the Great Eskimo Hoax.
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sorry, should be "redhat and novell". and yes i did hit the preview button.
why couldn't Redhat Novell (also released a desktop linux distro today) wait ONE DAY so they could include Firefox 1.0 instead of one of the RC/PR series?
Granted, the Firefox team keeps changing their deadlines, but my PR (installed as a prepackaged binary for Slackware) crashes a few times a week. I would have waited a day if i was Redhat, considering how important I consider Firefox to the success of the FOSS movement, and the money and man-hours Redhat contributes to the Mozilla project.
I use Slack 10.0 on my desktop exclusively (also for hosting SSH). Though it's plenty good for servers, it's not very commerical, which is all I mean. No Slackware contracts for AT&T, yet. - Kyle
I, the grandparent poster, use Slackware 10.0. I fscking love it. By "hobbyist" i mean, "not commerical." Though it would work just fine, I don't think pat's getting rich. - kyle
"...one fed-up maintainer for a redundant Slackware package..."
Um, not exactly. Patrick, who is the guy quoted in TFA, is the ONLY person working on Slackware. The whole thing is his baby (ignoring all the GNU tools of course) and that's one reason I love it.
But back on topic, Slackware is definetly a hobbyist distro. I'd say that it's more likely you'll see a split between the two desktop environments, with RedHat making GNOME/Linux systems and SUSE/HP/etc. making KDE/Linux, than problems for either desktop. Nor is it a Good Thing. If that was the case, I wouldn't have Enlightenment.
If we're going to talk price, doesn't everyone here think this cheap laptop is a far better deal? Wireless card and twice the hard drive. Plus (and this is the best part) it's a useful computer! Oh yea, the screen's also way bigger. I know that size must be an issue for the sort of person that would buy one of of these PMCs, but all the same, it seems like a lot of money for how little you get.
I don't really know of anyone who is "terrorized" by defaced web sites and high lag times, but I could be wrong.
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You must be new here.
I for one, deleted the "it." in front of the URL for this story.
considering that your screenname is an anagram from "gaye case 6677" (sorry couldn't resist) you sure seem to have something up your butt (excuse the pun) about homosexuals. i haven't ever seen anything graphic promoting homosexuality on mtv, with the exception of the kitschy, girl-on-girl stuff that american straight blokes seem to really get into. and you know nothing promotes homosexuality like encouraging straight guys to wank it to two girls instead of one. if i'm missing something, let me know. just my two cents.
You're kidding right? Just try and count the 100% reviews here
the thing that really killed me about this one is how nobody could deliver the dialogue without_____delivering_____it______one______word__ ___at____a____time. Completely infuriating.
um, yea. TFA definetly doesn't include a photo. it's a sketch. anyways, all i was saying is that, like the iPod, a pretty thing with a nice interface (albeit, expensive, see "iPod", or, "tablet PC") can sell. hence, the distinction between a sketch (as if we didn't know what a table pc looks like) and a photo, which lets us know if it's pretty.
But the tablet thing is done.
I was saying that (or at least thinking it) a few years ago about MP3 players competing against discmen. But, Steve and friends to the rescue! So I'll wait until somebody leaks the prototype photos before I make such a judgement.
well, think of it this way...how old is your average slashdot reader (try 14), and do you think they can handle epic poetry?
it should be mentioned that IE is also based off Mosiac. From the "about":
Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic(TM); was developed at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
the worst part of this post was that i had to open IE to find that info
i plugged your response into the ultimate old-school a.i. app - ELIZA...this is "her" real response.
"Eliza: Please go on. "
Better listen to the lady, dude.
I call bs. PATRIOT is an acyronym for Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001. USA PATRIOT Act Do you NOT see the whole part about obstructing terrorism?
The bill's function, as indicated by the damn name, is to intercept and obstruct terrorism. If congress passed a bill called "The Act for Killing Minorities" and in addition to giving the government the power to kill minorities, it contained tools for putting to death violent criminals who happened to be minorities, would you still support it because the evil daughter-killer you fear could be a minority. A flame-baitish example, I must admit. But all the same, I think the point is the same. All minorities aren't killers, and all dumbass webmasters who post copywrited material online aren't terrorists.
great idea...we can call it "activeX"!
i'd love to be the secret service agent who has the job of reading slashdot.
just think: your taxes, paying a man to read the vi/emacs flamewars, just in case some n00b is threatening to knock off duyba.