Yes. That's sort of the point. You're not supposed to be able to transfer what you've bought freely to everyone else. That's piracy, same as burning a copy of a CD you bought to give to your friend, which he or she then has no need to buy.
As to those who make the mp3 players that people bought, they made their mistakes too. Remeber Apple never used to do this at all, but when they decided to get involved in digital music, they didn't just go for a music player, they went and set up the store and all of the legal distribution contracts for the content and built a tightly intergrated user application.
Creative Labs, RCA or Sony for example could easily have brought their customers the 'whole package' as well, but they didn't. So they lose and the iPod continues to get more popular. Apple has a fair DRM system that they have made non-intrusive to customer activity and largely from my own personal experience, they have yet to act in anything but good faith when a dispute has arisen.
Do you really think any major media label, if they had come out of the gate with something like this, would be willing to open up THEIR DRM?
I think not. They want the money and the control, but they missed the boat.
At least your other mp3 players will still work as USB drives.:P
I've been using ITMS and iTunes & I'm on my third iPod.
I can't say I've ever felt restricted in my ability to move the content I bought between devices, back it up etc. I'm about to try my first bulk move from one machine to another, so we'll see how that goes. When I have had a download issue, I have never been unduly hassled about crediting the money spent so I could restart the download. In short Apple seems to act in good faith.
I think the real issue is sour grapes frm the established industry. Apple made a runaway success by providing an easy to manage device, store and end user application.
As to DRM being eliminated. I don't think so. There's too many ignorant people out there that seem to think other people's creativity and hard work should be theirs for the taking.
They're wrong.
Uhm. May I also point out that this was a release at WWDC. The big items were the new Intel Mac Pro and XServe as well as an update on functional changes in the OS and the new animation app. The platform and operational information is geared for developers. The iPod crowd could stand to get an attention span a little wider that the Nano here.
Honestly get over the hype, learn to use your Mac to create something, it might provide some perspective.
How could any American business make money selling to an Indian middle class that pays in rupees? Well, take heart! Your president has a plan.
Contrary to popular myth, Bush is not going to stop Iran's Euro based oil bourse from opening. He doesn't plan on America BUYING their oil anyway. Another war will be started by bombing the defences in the Strait of Hormuz (Yes, tactical nukes will be involved) and once a perimiter is established, Haliburton tankers just start bringing home the oil stored near the port.
The revaluation of global oil to the Euro sends your greenback into unstoppable freefall, thus ensuring Americans stay and spend in America, because the USD will be roughly on par with the rupee when it's all over.
Every other nation gets screwed by the 8-9 trillion dollar foreign debt though, because that deficit will be in USD, which while still a dollar at home, will be worthless globally. Want a PS3? bring an SUV full of 20s to your nearest Walmart. Oh and I hope none of you plan on travelling. Your vacation savings will be worthless too. Except in nations like India of course.
Good luck, and for what its worth, he's screwed the rest of us too.
Crime as VG for points = total crap.
Law enforcement taken as a joke = disaster waiting to happen.
Solution: Take the guns off the street. Period.
Soldiers killed in Iraqi warzone since March 2003 = >2,080.
US murders in 2004 = >15,000.
Conclusion: Nobody kills more Americans, than Americans do.
Sounds like you have some bitter memories of your first time.:)
(passes the whiskey)
So. Someone with no background whatsover picks up a gun and shoots himself in the foot.
Do you blame the gun?
Strict glibc compliance and relatively few efforts to make it palatable to the desktop crowd is exactly what has made it perfect for a task specific server platform. Having stuck with it since 1994, when I first started down the road of discovering what Linux could do. I've never been disappointed (in terms of uptime, security and resource control) I will probably keep using it as long as it can be maintained. A learning curve isn't a bad thing. That's why I got into this in the first place. I'll leave Red Hat to the '1337'. This just works.
Jack Thomson is trying to SAVE YOU! Ever since the first Lemming exploded the video game industry has been corrupting your minds. You all clearly lack the ability to discern sliding a CG mock-up car through a crowded bus stop in Carmageddon from real world laws and morals. GTA and Bully will spell the end for all the decent God fearing folk of your great nation! Won't someone please think of the children?!!!
*SOB!* *WEEP* *MOAN* What's Next?! GTIB?!!! (Grand Theft Investment Banker) GTE?!!!! (Grand Theft Election) What kind of example would that set for the financial and political leaders of the last bastion of freedom and high-holiness in the world?
In the hands of a President with an IQ that could be bested by a mouldy hard boiled egg and a VP and defense administration with all the moral fortitude of an LA pimp. How do I get off this rock?
re: Will glamorizing science in the movies make kids pay better attention in chemistry class?"
Why would any kid in America want to be an ace in chemistry when all it's going to get them is a flag on a homeland security watch list?
Intelligent design is something they teach that God does. Not America's school children.
Good luck though.
Sending huge amounts of spam/virii - very cheap to do. Stopping huge amounts of spam/virii - very expensive. Companies must make investors happy with profits or have their stock and bond ratings shot to hell. People sell off stock. Borrowing power dries up. No more company.
Wow. How did you get moderated as insightful for that piece of crap. Get out from under Rob's desk and wipe your mouth. Once again, consider what every business on the planet is doing to any department that does not generate a profit. They are cut to almost nothing. Pit the abuse team at MCI against every unprotected outlook client, zombie server, open relay and malicious spam host and tell me the odds are balanced.
You obviously don't know much about corporate business in the 21st century so far.
Remeber that you want your ISP to clamp down on illigal activity when you're trying to get a torrent of DVD rip or a newly release album on mp3.
Most landlords will call in the police once they know a crackhouse is being operated in one of their appartments. But landlors have the whole building to manage, so maybe you have to go down and register the complaint along with the other concerned tenants.
Also, if you're ranting on a bullhorn at 4 AM, you should be dragged away, not the store owner who sold it to you.
Sending spam, or trojans or viruses is the problem, not the network they travel over.
E-mail their abuse department a sample with the full headers displayed. Make your complaint known. Most ISPs will act. The problem is like most businesses, non revenue generating departments have been cut to the bone. Even a company the size of MCI probably has less than two dozen people world wide dealing with network abuse now. Score that against all of the intentional spammers unprotected networks, open relays and zombie servers around the world and the odds are even worse that General Custer's last stand.
to keep one information device, always on my person, that never (really, NEVER) connects to anything directly. No Bluetooth, No WiLAN, not desktop sync.
I install to it by memory card using a USB reader on the PC, take the card out and take the data off it. Wipe the card and never copy from the device back again.
I always carry the device and memory card on me.
I have lots of connected devices, just not this one.
Seumas, I'll agree with you on most of this, but free speech? The people that pump out hundreds or thousands of DivX rips aren't saying anything. They're posting this stuff out in the public domain for their own personal popularity. Most of them didn't even make the rip that they're pushing, they just took it from someone else and reposted it.
Freedom of speech has the power to change the world. Use it like it matters to you, people.
(I'm gonna go sell my soap box on eBay now.):)
Cheers.
No, it's copyright infringement. Laws change though. You all better hope they don't change the law to equate it with stealing legally, or just having it is possession and distributing it becomes trafficking. Your U.S of A is going to need a lot more jails at that point, or they might just give you the option of the draft instead.
Good luck. With the folks you've got making your laws right now, you're going to need it.
Now just imagine, however inhospitable the conditions sound to us, if that probe came back with images of a civilization or even an outpost (inhabited or abandoned/destroyed).
That one piece of news would turn the whole world on its edge.
Sometimes great discoveries come, when you're not really looking for them.
'If it is just us, it seems like an awful waste of space.' - Contact
...in the first place, we wouldn't have to worry about setting them off all accidental like.
* 'we' being the collective passengers on this twirling ball of dirt & water.
Any password can be guessed given enough time. Far better to have had only the SAC commander and XO even know what measures were required to unlock the missiles for launch.
Is it a password? Voice recording? Electronic Signal? 2 keys (turn simultaneously or with a time diferrence) and any combination of these and other measures in a set order.
I thought military folk were supposed to be paranoid during the Cold War. Obviously not paranoid enough.
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Yes. That's sort of the point. You're not supposed to be able to transfer what you've bought freely to everyone else. That's piracy, same as burning a copy of a CD you bought to give to your friend, which he or she then has no need to buy. As to those who make the mp3 players that people bought, they made their mistakes too. Remeber Apple never used to do this at all, but when they decided to get involved in digital music, they didn't just go for a music player, they went and set up the store and all of the legal distribution contracts for the content and built a tightly intergrated user application. Creative Labs, RCA or Sony for example could easily have brought their customers the 'whole package' as well, but they didn't. So they lose and the iPod continues to get more popular. Apple has a fair DRM system that they have made non-intrusive to customer activity and largely from my own personal experience, they have yet to act in anything but good faith when a dispute has arisen. Do you really think any major media label, if they had come out of the gate with something like this, would be willing to open up THEIR DRM? I think not. They want the money and the control, but they missed the boat. At least your other mp3 players will still work as USB drives. :P
So why should you be able to pull in tracks for free? it's 99c. If you like it, buy it when you get home.
I've been using ITMS and iTunes & I'm on my third iPod. I can't say I've ever felt restricted in my ability to move the content I bought between devices, back it up etc. I'm about to try my first bulk move from one machine to another, so we'll see how that goes. When I have had a download issue, I have never been unduly hassled about crediting the money spent so I could restart the download. In short Apple seems to act in good faith. I think the real issue is sour grapes frm the established industry. Apple made a runaway success by providing an easy to manage device, store and end user application. As to DRM being eliminated. I don't think so. There's too many ignorant people out there that seem to think other people's creativity and hard work should be theirs for the taking. They're wrong.
Uhm. May I also point out that this was a release at WWDC. The big items were the new Intel Mac Pro and XServe as well as an update on functional changes in the OS and the new animation app. The platform and operational information is geared for developers. The iPod crowd could stand to get an attention span a little wider that the Nano here. Honestly get over the hype, learn to use your Mac to create something, it might provide some perspective.
How could any American business make money selling to an Indian middle class that pays in rupees? Well, take heart! Your president has a plan. Contrary to popular myth, Bush is not going to stop Iran's Euro based oil bourse from opening. He doesn't plan on America BUYING their oil anyway. Another war will be started by bombing the defences in the Strait of Hormuz (Yes, tactical nukes will be involved) and once a perimiter is established, Haliburton tankers just start bringing home the oil stored near the port. The revaluation of global oil to the Euro sends your greenback into unstoppable freefall, thus ensuring Americans stay and spend in America, because the USD will be roughly on par with the rupee when it's all over. Every other nation gets screwed by the 8-9 trillion dollar foreign debt though, because that deficit will be in USD, which while still a dollar at home, will be worthless globally. Want a PS3? bring an SUV full of 20s to your nearest Walmart. Oh and I hope none of you plan on travelling. Your vacation savings will be worthless too. Except in nations like India of course. Good luck, and for what its worth, he's screwed the rest of us too.
Crime as VG for points = total crap. Law enforcement taken as a joke = disaster waiting to happen. Solution: Take the guns off the street. Period. Soldiers killed in Iraqi warzone since March 2003 = >2,080. US murders in 2004 = >15,000. Conclusion: Nobody kills more Americans, than Americans do.
Sounds like you have some bitter memories of your first time. :)
(passes the whiskey)
So. Someone with no background whatsover picks up a gun and shoots himself in the foot.
Do you blame the gun?
Strict glibc compliance and relatively few efforts to make it palatable to the desktop crowd is exactly what has made it perfect for a task specific server platform. Having stuck with it since 1994, when I first started down the road of discovering what Linux could do. I've never been disappointed (in terms of uptime, security and resource control) I will probably keep using it as long as it can be maintained. A learning curve isn't a bad thing. That's why I got into this in the first place. I'll leave Red Hat to the '1337'. This just works.
(finishes stuffing last 'Pizza Pop' in gob) (unplugs microwave and removes from telco rack) Thorry.(spitting crumbs)
Jack Thomson is trying to SAVE YOU! Ever since the first Lemming exploded the video game industry has been corrupting your minds. You all clearly lack the ability to discern sliding a CG mock-up car through a crowded bus stop in Carmageddon from real world laws and morals. GTA and Bully will spell the end for all the decent God fearing folk of your great nation! Won't someone please think of the children?!!! *SOB!* *WEEP* *MOAN* What's Next?! GTIB?!!! (Grand Theft Investment Banker) GTE?!!!! (Grand Theft Election) What kind of example would that set for the financial and political leaders of the last bastion of freedom and high-holiness in the world?
In the hands of a President with an IQ that could be bested by a mouldy hard boiled egg and a VP and defense administration with all the moral fortitude of an LA pimp. How do I get off this rock?
re: Will glamorizing science in the movies make kids pay better attention in chemistry class?" Why would any kid in America want to be an ace in chemistry when all it's going to get them is a flag on a homeland security watch list? Intelligent design is something they teach that God does. Not America's school children. Good luck though.
Sending huge amounts of spam/virii - very cheap to do. Stopping huge amounts of spam/virii - very expensive. Companies must make investors happy with profits or have their stock and bond ratings shot to hell. People sell off stock. Borrowing power dries up. No more company.
Wow. How did you get moderated as insightful for that piece of crap. Get out from under Rob's desk and wipe your mouth. Once again, consider what every business on the planet is doing to any department that does not generate a profit. They are cut to almost nothing. Pit the abuse team at MCI against every unprotected outlook client, zombie server, open relay and malicious spam host and tell me the odds are balanced. You obviously don't know much about corporate business in the 21st century so far.
Remeber that you want your ISP to clamp down on illigal activity when you're trying to get a torrent of DVD rip or a newly release album on mp3. Most landlords will call in the police once they know a crackhouse is being operated in one of their appartments. But landlors have the whole building to manage, so maybe you have to go down and register the complaint along with the other concerned tenants. Also, if you're ranting on a bullhorn at 4 AM, you should be dragged away, not the store owner who sold it to you. Sending spam, or trojans or viruses is the problem, not the network they travel over. E-mail their abuse department a sample with the full headers displayed. Make your complaint known. Most ISPs will act. The problem is like most businesses, non revenue generating departments have been cut to the bone. Even a company the size of MCI probably has less than two dozen people world wide dealing with network abuse now. Score that against all of the intentional spammers unprotected networks, open relays and zombie servers around the world and the odds are even worse that General Custer's last stand.
to keep one information device, always on my person, that never (really, NEVER) connects to anything directly. No Bluetooth, No WiLAN, not desktop sync. I install to it by memory card using a USB reader on the PC, take the card out and take the data off it. Wipe the card and never copy from the device back again. I always carry the device and memory card on me. I have lots of connected devices, just not this one.
Seumas, I'll agree with you on most of this, but free speech? The people that pump out hundreds or thousands of DivX rips aren't saying anything. They're posting this stuff out in the public domain for their own personal popularity. Most of them didn't even make the rip that they're pushing, they just took it from someone else and reposted it. Freedom of speech has the power to change the world. Use it like it matters to you, people. (I'm gonna go sell my soap box on eBay now.) :)
Cheers.
No, it's copyright infringement. Laws change though. You all better hope they don't change the law to equate it with stealing legally, or just having it is possession and distributing it becomes trafficking. Your U.S of A is going to need a lot more jails at that point, or they might just give you the option of the draft instead. Good luck. With the folks you've got making your laws right now, you're going to need it.
Check how undercover cops conduct drug busts some time.
Now just imagine, however inhospitable the conditions sound to us, if that probe came back with images of a civilization or even an outpost (inhabited or abandoned/destroyed). That one piece of news would turn the whole world on its edge. Sometimes great discoveries come, when you're not really looking for them. 'If it is just us, it seems like an awful waste of space.' - Contact
I hit my 'Freedom 55' retirement and POW!!!! I'm gonna sue somebody. Harrumph!
How about a nice game of chess?
Air hockey on the 'SwineTrek'! Groovy!
...in the first place, we wouldn't have to worry about setting them off all accidental like. * 'we' being the collective passengers on this twirling ball of dirt & water.
Any password can be guessed given enough time. Far better to have had only the SAC commander and XO even know what measures were required to unlock the missiles for launch. Is it a password? Voice recording? Electronic Signal? 2 keys (turn simultaneously or with a time diferrence) and any combination of these and other measures in a set order. I thought military folk were supposed to be paranoid during the Cold War. Obviously not paranoid enough.