"Probably none" means that you probably think tha marketing works as follows: you see an ad and now you want to buy a Pepsi. Hiwever that is not hiw marketing works. In politics it can be used to make sulent preople vical. That will make OTHERS change their mind. Viting happens emotionally not rational.
When a company I used to work for was invited to be on TV, they accepted and hired a media person. Dud not stop our CEO from answering "Buy somewhere else." Insteaf of a stanard "We are aware of the issue and are working hard to solve the issue." So the question will be if he actually uses it or does he think he is above the law and can outsmart them.
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topic... for some numbers. Neither the Uber, nor the Tesla are self driving cars. In both a human did not take the action they should have taken. This is not even the 'I tried to break, but the brakes failed' scenario. That would be MORE like a self driving car incident. Yes, looking ate the number of miles that people drive, people are safe drivers. 1.16 per 100.000.000 miles driven in the US.
So yes, 3 deaths would be a lot, but they have not yet happened.
In just a few generations that will have solved itself. We will have pedestrians that will have such alertness that they 'feel' the silent cars coming and the fast reflexes to jump aside while crossing the road. Give it 50 to 60 generations and it has solved itself. W00t Darwinism! (The explanation for the creationists is even easier. God wanted them to die, because they had impure thoughts.)
Fro what I can read, the 'food' part is free food that they get. I do not think it to be way to strange to see that people do not abuse the system. The scanning of the ID is done, as far as I can see, instead of having an ID card.
In Belgium having an ID card is mandatory since at least WWII and perhaps longer. (Napoleon?). If you want to open a bank account, you will need to have an ID and if you open a credit (e.g. a bank account that you can go below 0 EUR) you will be registered at the National Bank.(No, not everybody can see it) If you want to buy a phone, you need to have an ID since the terrorist attack in Brussels. No more burner phones. If you want some sort of benefit, you will be registered in one form or another, so they will be able to see you do not get money or services you are not entitled to.
In Belgium everybody from the age of 12 has an ID with a chip reader. That can be accessed by open source software eID. Look it up.
I have absolutely no issues that if people receive benefits from the state (and that is what we are talking about) that there is some sort of verification that people do not abuse it.
And how do I feel walking around with an ID that could be checked at random? Pretty safe. They asked me once for my ID at random. The next day I saw them asking somebody else who looks very, very similar as to how I looked, so it was clear they where looking for somebody. I am sure that was not just a shoplifter as it was the (then) rijkswacht (Federal Police) and not standard police. So if they did that once in all these years, I rather they do it than have a criminal walking around.
That said, I do live in a country where we can complain about e.g. the police when they abuse their power and things will happen. We have reasonable privacy (soon even stricter). On the downside, we are communists and give people a way to live, even when they do not work. And if we work, we are forced to take holidays.
It would amaze me that people can just walk in and ask food stamps in the US without proper identification, because if that is the case, why would people just ask for them once per month? I would ask for them even if I had a job. It is like handing out free money.
This will not solve it for places where the water is not a swimming pool. e.g. a deep puddle or a lake. And many pools will have people in them where many kids WILL be allowed to disturb the water.
All the things you named are technical solutions to a social problem.
And the fact that it is a false sense of security IS the market. That is a HUGE market. You and I will not be potential buyers, but plenty of others will. I see schools spending money on this, because "Think of the children." It will also nicely condition kids to understand that they are being monitored 24/7.
I go a step further and would no tbuy a signed copy. Might be different ifI had a copy and the author signed it for me. It deos not add anything to the story itself. It wouldmake the book less prestine so of less value to me. I once had this bible made by a guy called Gutenberg, but some asshole called Luther scribbled a lot of stuff on the sides making it worthless, so I used it to light my bbq.
Not sure how it is done inEstonia. In Belgium you get a chip on your oblagitory ID and the software to read it is open source. It is used to sign online andvdo your taxes. Just look up 'eID' in your Linux repo or compile it yourself. Or solve bugs in the code.
That is why I put an example as to when it will be used. There will be other cases.They are still legal, but it is like saying that the car has replaced horses and you counter with the fact that people still ride horses. Using the word 'plenty' is correct if you are talking about fixed numbers. Ther will be hundreds, if not thousands per day. If you look at percentages of transactions, this is so low that 'not being used' is an acceptable usage of the English language.
Jessep: You canâ(TM)t handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiagoâ(TM)s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You donâ(TM)t want the truth because deep down in places you donâ(TM)t talk about at parties you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said âthank youâ(TM) and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I donâ(TM)t give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
Kaffee: Did you order the Code Red?
Jessep: I did the job that â"
Kaffee: Did you order the Code Red?
Jessep: Youâ(TM)re goddamn right I did!
There are two steps. 1) It will take experts months 2) If they get caught, they get a huge fine
Step 1 would mean the willingness to enforce people to actually look at EVERYTHING. Bit like when they where looking for WMDs in Iraq. You listen to the investigators, not somebody on/.Things can be traced. Especially in a company as big as FB. Somebody will not have their HD wiped with an email explaining to store it all in ROT13.
Step 2 would require a willingness to go after a company and not just saying they did something wrong, like they told e.g. Microsoft and then did nothing.
I live in Belgium, but have a bank account in Spain as well as in Belgium because I have property there. Bit easier that way (although I could do it without it). To be able to open a bank account, you need to have an NIE (National number). That you request at the embassy and 6 weeks later you get your number. With that you can do anything you like, regardless of where you live. OTOH my sister who lives in Germany wanted to open a bank account in Belgium, but the bank demanded that you had an address in Belgium. I have not asked other banks, as the need for it has past, but it might also depend on the bank.
I imagine the reason they have it in Spain is because many people buy holiday homes. while they live in e.g. Germany or the UK.
It is not 100% digital as you still need to fill out papers, but afterwards it is just a PDF with a number on it.
For those in the US about the banking. Transfering money from one EU account to another will cost no money (unless you want it extremely fast) and will take 2 to 3 days. That to anywere in the SEPA zone. (Not identical to the EURO zone, nor to the EU zone.
That is yet another reason why we do not use checks. That does not mean checks are not used at all anymore, but they are used mainly for larger amounts. e.g. when you sell a house in Spain, you will get a verified bank check that you take to the bank.This mainly so all can be done at the same day at the notary with the handing over of keys and ownership.
In Belgium that is a no-no. The information they have is the transaction information. That they will give to the company that handles their tranasctions (mostl likely World Online) and those will then see who is the company behind the card (most likely some bank)
Yes, I am very well aware thatit is technically possible to do a lot of things. That does not make it legal and the fines will be pretty high and could cost the company their license to do business. Much cheaper to lure the cutomers with loyalty cards. That will not only give them a legal ability to analyze the data. It gives them the ability to send marketing stuff as well as do customer binding. People with a loyalty card are much more brand loyal than those without one.
People will gladly pay 10EUR more, just so they can get 0.10EUR in bonus points. Yes, I do have experience in the field on a professional level.
Uh, no. The store does not keep the cardnumber. So they have no way to link it and if they did, it will cost them a LOT of monies. The card companie knows where I bought, but not what. In Belgium they are not allowed to analyze this data. Both companies are not allowed to sell this data.
The reason they do have loyalty cards is so they are able to link your purchases to you as a customer because they can not do it otherwise.
Cash requires time and money as well. If you are a store, you need to count the money at the end of the day. You need to bring it to a safer place (most likely a bank). Human error will be easier to happen. If a customer notices an error in his favour, you take the loss. If he sees am error in his disadvantage, you take the blame and it will cost extra time. If you have a large store, you will be a higher target to holdups and that will cost money and to prevent it, security measures. cash handeling is much more expensive than what you think.
Just went to a store. Swiping was much faster. Have been doing it wrong before. Swiping took about 2 seconds, if that. I just already held my card to the machine while the cashier was entering the two items I bought. He pressed enter. I got an OK in about 2 seconds (perhaps faster) and took my items. With a pin I would have just put it in when I got the ok and enter the PIN. Total time about 10 seconds. With cash I need to hand over the money, vashier needs to take it, grab that change, hand that back. I check it.
PIN is mnuch faster. At least when you are not in the US where they have apparently a non-standard system compared to the rest of the world.
So you are actually complaining about 5 seconds. My experience with cash and caslesss, be it ewith pin ir swiping, is about the same time. If they verify if money is real, money is much slower. To me fasterst is pin, then cash then swiping. But these are not actually measured and the difference is small.
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"Probably none" means that you probably think tha marketing works as follows: you see an ad and now you want to buy a Pepsi. Hiwever that is not hiw marketing works. In politics it can be used to make sulent preople vical. That will make OTHERS change their mind. Viting happens emotionally not rational.
When a company I used to work for was invited to be on TV, they accepted and hired a media person. Dud not stop our CEO from answering "Buy somewhere else." Insteaf of a stanard "We are aware of the issue and are working hard to solve the issue."
So the question will be if he actually uses it or does he think he is above the law and can outsmart them.
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topic... for some numbers.
Neither the Uber, nor the Tesla are self driving cars. In both a human did not take the action they should have taken. This is not even the 'I tried to break, but the brakes failed' scenario. That would be MORE like a self driving car incident.
Yes, looking ate the number of miles that people drive, people are safe drivers. 1.16 per 100.000.000 miles driven in the US.
So yes, 3 deaths would be a lot, but they have not yet happened.
In just a few generations that will have solved itself. We will have pedestrians that will have such alertness that they 'feel' the silent cars coming and the fast reflexes to jump aside while crossing the road.
Give it 50 to 60 generations and it has solved itself.
W00t Darwinism!
(The explanation for the creationists is even easier. God wanted them to die, because they had impure thoughts.)
People do not like change. News at 11.
Is it 'a' phone or 'the' phone that I miss? And yes, I miss it a lot as I am a terrible shot.
Fro what I can read, the 'food' part is free food that they get. I do not think it to be way to strange to see that people do not abuse the system. The scanning of the ID is done, as far as I can see, instead of having an ID card.
In Belgium having an ID card is mandatory since at least WWII and perhaps longer. (Napoleon?). If you want to open a bank account, you will need to have an ID and if you open a credit (e.g. a bank account that you can go below 0 EUR) you will be registered at the National Bank.(No, not everybody can see it)
If you want to buy a phone, you need to have an ID since the terrorist attack in Brussels. No more burner phones.
If you want some sort of benefit, you will be registered in one form or another, so they will be able to see you do not get money or services you are not entitled to.
In Belgium everybody from the age of 12 has an ID with a chip reader. That can be accessed by open source software eID. Look it up.
I have absolutely no issues that if people receive benefits from the state (and that is what we are talking about) that there is some sort of verification that people do not abuse it.
And how do I feel walking around with an ID that could be checked at random? Pretty safe. They asked me once for my ID at random. The next day I saw them asking somebody else who looks very, very similar as to how I looked, so it was clear they where looking for somebody.
I am sure that was not just a shoplifter as it was the (then) rijkswacht (Federal Police) and not standard police. So if they did that once in all these years, I rather they do it than have a criminal walking around.
That said, I do live in a country where we can complain about e.g. the police when they abuse their power and things will happen. We have reasonable privacy (soon even stricter). On the downside, we are communists and give people a way to live, even when they do not work. And if we work, we are forced to take holidays.
It would amaze me that people can just walk in and ask food stamps in the US without proper identification, because if that is the case, why would people just ask for them once per month? I would ask for them even if I had a job. It is like handing out free money.
Where does the data come from? Facebook. This is like bringing a phone book from the US to Russia and tell them the data comes from Russia.
This will not solve it for places where the water is not a swimming pool. e.g. a deep puddle or a lake.
And many pools will have people in them where many kids WILL be allowed to disturb the water.
All the things you named are technical solutions to a social problem.
And the fact that it is a false sense of security IS the market. That is a HUGE market. You and I will not be potential buyers, but plenty of others will. I see schools spending money on this, because "Think of the children." It will also nicely condition kids to understand that they are being monitored 24/7.
I go a step further and would no tbuy a signed copy. Might be different ifI had a copy and the author signed it for me. It deos not add anything to the story itself. It wouldmake the book less prestine so of less value to me.
I once had this bible made by a guy called Gutenberg, but some asshole called Luther scribbled a lot of stuff on the sides making it worthless, so I used it to light my bbq.
Not sure how it is done inEstonia. In Belgium you get a chip on your oblagitory ID and the software to read it is open source. It is used to sign online andvdo your taxes. Just look up 'eID' in your Linux repo or compile it yourself. Or solve bugs in the code.
It will be published by their marketing team when the outcome us in their favour. Just as almost all research.
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(What the fuck is a lameness filter and why should I care?)
That is why I put an example as to when it will be used. There will be other cases.They are still legal, but it is like saying that the car has replaced horses and you counter with the fact that people still ride horses.
Using the word 'plenty' is correct if you are talking about fixed numbers. Ther will be hundreds, if not thousands per day. If you look at percentages of transactions, this is so low that 'not being used' is an acceptable usage of the English language.
Jack Nicholson (as Col. Nathan R. Jessep)
Jessep: You canâ(TM)t handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiagoâ(TM)s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You donâ(TM)t want the truth because deep down in places you donâ(TM)t talk about at parties you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said âthank youâ(TM) and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I donâ(TM)t give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
Kaffee: Did you order the Code Red?
Jessep: I did the job that â"
Kaffee: Did you order the Code Red?
Jessep: Youâ(TM)re goddamn right I did!
Yes, but after that we got "due process" for a reason. Also not sure how many kings there where in the US.
Insert "Yo Mamma" joke here.
There are two steps.
1) It will take experts months
2) If they get caught, they get a huge fine
Step 1 would mean the willingness to enforce people to actually look at EVERYTHING. Bit like when they where looking for WMDs in Iraq. You listen to the investigators, not somebody on /.Things can be traced. Especially in a company as big as FB. Somebody will not have their HD wiped with an email explaining to store it all in ROT13.
Step 2 would require a willingness to go after a company and not just saying they did something wrong, like they told e.g. Microsoft and then did nothing.
I live in Belgium, but have a bank account in Spain as well as in Belgium because I have property there. Bit easier that way (although I could do it without it).
To be able to open a bank account, you need to have an NIE (National number). That you request at the embassy and 6 weeks later you get your number. With that you can do anything you like, regardless of where you live.
OTOH my sister who lives in Germany wanted to open a bank account in Belgium, but the bank demanded that you had an address in Belgium. I have not asked other banks, as the need for it has past, but it might also depend on the bank.
I imagine the reason they have it in Spain is because many people buy holiday homes. while they live in e.g. Germany or the UK.
More explanation about the NIE can be found here
It is not 100% digital as you still need to fill out papers, but afterwards it is just a PDF with a number on it.
For those in the US about the banking. Transfering money from one EU account to another will cost no money (unless you want it extremely fast) and will take 2 to 3 days. That to anywere in the SEPA zone. (Not identical to the EURO zone, nor to the EU zone.
That is yet another reason why we do not use checks. That does not mean checks are not used at all anymore, but they are used mainly for larger amounts. e.g. when you sell a house in Spain, you will get a verified bank check that you take to the bank.This mainly so all can be done at the same day at the notary with the handing over of keys and ownership.
If only there where some sort of General Purpose Guard or a some sort of Public Guarding Preference.
And secure does not mean secret. It means verifiable. I want to know if the email is from my bank or from a phishing site.
In Belgium that is a no-no. The information they have is the transaction information. That they will give to the company that handles their tranasctions (mostl likely World Online) and those will then see who is the company behind the card (most likely some bank)
Yes, I am very well aware thatit is technically possible to do a lot of things. That does not make it legal and the fines will be pretty high and could cost the company their license to do business. Much cheaper to lure the cutomers with loyalty cards. That will not only give them a legal ability to analyze the data. It gives them the ability to send marketing stuff as well as do customer binding. People with a loyalty card are much more brand loyal than those without one.
People will gladly pay 10EUR more, just so they can get 0.10EUR in bonus points. Yes, I do have experience in the field on a professional level.
Uh, no. The store does not keep the cardnumber. So they have no way to link it and if they did, it will cost them a LOT of monies. The card companie knows where I bought, but not what. In Belgium they are not allowed to analyze this data. Both companies are not allowed to sell this data.
The reason they do have loyalty cards is so they are able to link your purchases to you as a customer because they can not do it otherwise.
I do not use a loyalty card for that reason.
Cash requires time and money as well. If you are a store, you need to count the money at the end of the day. You need to bring it to a safer place (most likely a bank). Human error will be easier to happen. If a customer notices an error in his favour, you take the loss. If he sees am error in his disadvantage, you take the blame and it will cost extra time.
If you have a large store, you will be a higher target to holdups and that will cost money and to prevent it, security measures.
cash handeling is much more expensive than what you think.
Just went to a store. Swiping was much faster. Have been doing it wrong before. Swiping took about 2 seconds, if that. I just already held my card to the machine while the cashier was entering the two items I bought. He pressed enter. I got an OK in about 2 seconds (perhaps faster) and took my items.
With a pin I would have just put it in when I got the ok and enter the PIN. Total time about 10 seconds. With cash I need to hand over the money, vashier needs to take it, grab that change, hand that back. I check it.
PIN is mnuch faster. At least when you are not in the US where they have apparently a non-standard system compared to the rest of the world.
So you are actually complaining about 5 seconds. My experience with cash and caslesss, be it ewith pin ir swiping, is about the same time. If they verify if money is real, money is much slower.
To me fasterst is pin, then cash then swiping. But these are not actually measured and the difference is small.