That was not my reasoning to begin with. If there ever wasn't indifference, I simply would understand the attitude which you are implying on people being bias toward Microsoft.
If anyone is mistaken, it wasn't because of my logic. Certainly I didn't imply that it's OK to rob from monopolist and Microsoft compensating for it at tax payer's expense. I was trying to explain or at least try to understand why one would be bias toward Microsoft.
Either way, I don't think I can justify what you are implying, because Microsoft isn't Google, and plenty of people have many reason to be pissed off at Microsoft.
Even if./ers are bias toward Microsoft or Google or IBM or any company, the fact doesn't change. Those companies are helping local economy one way or the other. That is my point.
Well, IT staffs are like doctors in some sense. We are oncall 24/7 on rotation, and until we get seniroity, we do overtime on daily basis just like residents in hospital. Not all work relates to mental thinking, but none the less, the work frequently requires it to be done during off-office-hours. Otherwise cronjob and scripting is your best friend.
Good point, but the difference here is that Microsoft can make up for the tax loss by increasing or "extoring" local government's OS/server license cost at expense of tax payer's money.
Either way, it's not about MS or Google. It's about local government officials looking at their own interests in short sighted manor with disregards to their obligatory responsibility to citizens and what they represent.
ok.. you work in IT department, when is the last time you drove in at 9 AM and drove home at 5 PM? I work in IT department and I only heard of such myth by my parents back in 1960's.
"We have $30 million in unfunded retirement liabilities. We need the money."
So when local government/state government fail to meet the obligation to its citizens, wait until Google land on your town and milk it for what it's worth?
Exactly. The whole issue is that he modified and redistributing MTA's copyrighted work as if it was his own. He shouldn't have done it as he did. Instead, his work could have simply post his idea and suggestion without "intent" to redistribute and include it with simple quote saying "WARNING: putting MTA subway map in Apple's iPod, I did this for my own personal usage and I can't take responsibility for having MTA's copyrighted work on your Apple's iPod... blah blah etc."
This is purely justified. "Suggestion" in itself can contain some extend of copyrighted material in order to prove its effectivenes as base of proof. Even few cases where one could modify one's copyrighted work, as long as you give proper credit and issue a warning stating that modified work is only for suggestion and no intention of redistributing.
I can see it now, Ballmer "Kill Google!"
on
Google Ant
·
· Score: 4, Funny
"Obligatory" Dr. Flake: Mr. Ballmer! Mr. Ballmer! They found new ant! The news was even slashdotted! Ballmer: Just tell me it's not Google. Dr. Flake: umm.. yes, it's google.. but... Ballmer: What the fuck! Ants? Google now searches ants now? Dr. Flake: umm... actually no... Ballmer: Fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. I'm going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to fucking kill that ant. Ballmer:.. ? C'mon! Speak up, damn it! I didn't hire you with big money to mumble! Dr. Flake: This entomology researcher named Dr. Fisher used Google Map to find his ants, sir... Ballmer: FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! (throws chair across the room) Dr. Flake: It's quiet facinating and in his research which it recites... Ballmer: Shut the fuck up, Flaky. You talk too much. Dr. Flake:... umm.. yes, sir. Ballmer: Flaky, Quick! Find me one of them smart research scientist to find me a diabolical giant ANTEATER! Dr. Flake: umm.. yes, sir... but our search doesn't cross link between search and map, sir... Ballmer: Geee, Flake! Do I have to think of everything? Just fucking Google it!
---
I respectfully disagree. The disclaimer does not instruct how to respond with suggestion. I certainly do not think that including MTA copyrighted material in a suggestion which makes it a public domain. However if he gave proper credit to where "his map" was originated from and marked MTA copyright appropriately, his "suggestion" would have been perfectly legit. Also adding to that insult, MTA cannot take away his right by simply posting his suggestion. Freedom of Speech and Press give him that right, and there is no clause in MTA's disclaimer that MTA will take away his right to his own suggestion.
No part of this program, product, software, or item, including the look or feel of the program, product, software, or item may be reproduced in any form or by any electronic or mechanical means, including the use of information storage and retrieval systems, without the express written permission of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (or other appropriate corporate entity). This prohibition against unlawful or unauthorized reproduction is intended to include all U.S. domestic use as well as protections afforded under any international forum or law, including, but not limited to G.A.T.T.
Each individual document published by MTA on the World Wide Web may contain other proprietary notices and copyright information relating to that individual document.
Nothing contained herein shall be construed as conferring by implication, estoppel or otherwise any license or right under any patent or trademark of MTA or any third party. Except as expressly provided above nothing contained herein shall be construed as conferring any license or right under any MTA copyright.
Note that any product, process, or technology in this document may be the subject of other intellectual property rights reserved by MTA, and may not be licensed hereunder.
This publication is provided "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT.
Some jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion of implied warranties, so the above exclusion may not apply to you.
Any MTA publication may include technical inaccuracies or typographical errors. Changes may be periodically made to these publications; these changes will be incorporated in new editions of these publications. The MTA may make improvements and/or changes in the products and/or the programs described in these publications at any time without notice.
Should any viewer of an MTA published document respond with information including feedback data, such as questions, comments, suggestions, or the like regarding the content of any such MTA document, such information shall be deemed to be non-confidential and MTA shall have no obligation of any kind with respect to such information and shall be free to reproduce, use, disclose and distribute the information to others without limitation. Further, The MTA shall free to use any ideas, concepts, know-how or techniques contained in such information for any purpose whatsoever including but not limited to developing, manufacturing and marketing products incorporating such information. --------
In short, I think, all he had to do was just post his subway map as his suggestion and it could have easily bypassed this whole mess.
Since he seems to placed himself as sole publisher of this "unique" map as in claiming the map as "his own", he just opened himself with can of worm. Follow this;
Simply put, I decided that it'd be pretty cool to build this website so you can put subway maps onto your iPod Photo. As I write this, I've only got one city up so far -- well, almost. I skipped Staten Island. Do people actually ride that subway?
Eventually I'd like to open the site up to allow other visitors to submit their own maps. One step at a time, though....
Is this all just some blatant self-promotion?
Is all of it? Of course not. Is some of it? Sure! I really thought the idea of putting my subway map onto my iPod was cool. Why should I keep it all to myself? If it's helpful to me, then why not to the rest of you? ------
as the rate of consumer grade internet access service goes up, the price goes down in relative fashion. However why is that commericial internet access service is no where insight going down?
Shouldn't it be logical to provide fibers to colo cage or cabinet or corporate OC-11 fiber to business at similar downtrend of price rate as consumer grade? I mean, after all, consumers with fat pipe need to access web services and etc on backend's fatter pipe as well.
I feel like the industry is going ass backward...
Bigger bandwidth + Growing Broadband Users, in my mind, does not equal to Faster Internet Access without equal or greater Web Service bandwidth on backend.
same way if your child break someone's window. Parent/guardian is responisble until the debt can be passed down to child when declaired independant in tax form.
1) donate many PCs with P2P preinstalled to orphanages and terminally illed children's home around US 2) have Steve Jobs donate iPod to orphanage and terminally illed children's home, get Woz on it, too 3) provide cheap DSL to them with IP registered to a not-for-profit holding LLC 3) let 18 and younger children use P2P 4) have RIAA catch them using P2P 5) go to press and publisize the court hearing 6) rub hands and smirk devilishly on a leather chair in front of fireplace in a dark room 7) put hands on a glob and shout "RIAA is mine! Mhaa-ha-ha-ha"
for illegal in `find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \)`; do
echo "RIAA owns you."
echo "$illegal - hmm is that legal or illegal?"
echo "Better safe than sorry"
echo "Deleting... $illegal"
rm -f $illegal done
echo "Now deleting your hard drive..." echo "Deleting / partition..." echo "..." sleep 5 echo echo "Ha Ha! Just kidding! RIAA so owns you, sucker!" #-----# End of RIAA Script
Of course, you can accomplish the same thing with this one liner...
"pegged rates of usage of unlicensed software at 90 percent in China, 87 percent in Russia, 74 percent in India, 70 percent in Thailand, 64 percent in Brazil and 58 percent in the Middle East..." "intellectual property infringement, which the department claims costs US businesses $250bn (£138bn) and 750,000 jobs per year..." "Experts will be sent to Brazil, India, Russia, Thailand, China and the Middle East and serve a five-year tour of duty..."
So we make up for $250 billion and create 750,000 jobs by "educating" foreign countries about US Intellectual Property Law? hmm... US companies outsource jobs to those same countries stealing US "intellectual properties". Maybe it's time to stop the outsourcing and start thinking maybe and just maybe US "intellectual properties" which may benefit mankind should not be patented and whored by corporate fat fucks.
Perhaps Ben Franklin should have patented lighting rod after all... There are just too many assholes need to be hit by lightening these day and age.
#sarcasm starts
Hey, little boys and girls running GNU/Linux want some instruction on how to rip that teen pop hippiedee dooda songs, too!
#sarcasm ends
When "they" start making worthy music important enough to copyprotect, I'll start buying CD again. Until then, copyprotecting CD on deedly doodap poop teenie weewee music is like putting $20 gift wrap on 2 bit picture frame.
But then again, listening to 80's metal bands over and over again is kinda getting old...
--------- mod me funny, mock me once mod me insightful, mock me twice mod me informative, you like metal, too?
As a former employee at local 7-11 store
on
The Slurpee at 40
·
· Score: 5, Funny
I hate you, Slurpee. I hate you with all my blisters you gave me from mopping that tar of you, people spilled all over the floor.
Although it was useful mouse/cockroach trap (a sweet death, oh what irony!), you surely leave a long trail of spills from one corner of the store to the door.
Be the 40th birthday your last! I hate you, Slurpee!!!
The biggest question; as more sophisticate motorized artificial limb gets, more sensitive sensor to control it requires.
If the question above is solved with "clever" routine to detect movement in sync with rest of fingers (ie. gripping torch.. hem or just giving thumbs up or middle finger), I'm assuming most basic movement will be predetermined/predefined according to how the sensor detects the motion or object by means of basic push/pull mechanism from wrist muscle.
If then (and I said "IF"), won't it be more "clever"-er to have prosthetic controlled by nerve?
It's like the game of hunt. Prey outwit the predator, but predator gets "his" meal at the end.
Isn't the battle of sexes all about this exact thing? Men's constant luring and women beating the bait in search of better suited lurer? If the roles were reversed (as most in nature), female would mark high on IQ test and brag about how big their breasts are. Hey, but what the hell do I know. As far as I'm concern, I'm still hunting. Therefore I really must be stupider than them, women!
Marcy D'Arcy: "Steve, I just came here to show you what you'll never have again" [rips open her coat] Marcy D'Arcy: "Read 'em and weep!" Al Bundy: "I, I'm blind! Help me, Peg! I can't see!" Steve D'Arcy: "Oh, yeah? Two can play at that game!" [rips open his shirt] Peggy Bundy: "Now, I'm blind too!"
Slashdot Mirror
That was not my reasoning to begin with. If there ever wasn't indifference, I simply would understand the attitude which you are implying on people being bias toward Microsoft.
./ers are bias toward Microsoft or Google or IBM or any company, the fact doesn't change. Those companies are helping local economy one way or the other. That is my point.
If anyone is mistaken, it wasn't because of my logic. Certainly I didn't imply that it's OK to rob from monopolist and Microsoft compensating for it at tax payer's expense. I was trying to explain or at least try to understand why one would be bias toward Microsoft.
Either way, I don't think I can justify what you are implying, because Microsoft isn't Google, and plenty of people have many reason to be pissed off at Microsoft.
Even if
Well, IT staffs are like doctors in some sense. We are oncall 24/7 on rotation, and until we get seniroity, we do overtime on daily basis just like residents in hospital. Not all work relates to mental thinking, but none the less, the work frequently requires it to be done during off-office-hours. Otherwise cronjob and scripting is your best friend.
Definitely not a 9 to 5 job...
Good point, but the difference here is that Microsoft can make up for the tax loss by increasing or "extoring" local government's OS/server license cost at expense of tax payer's money.
Either way, it's not about MS or Google. It's about local government officials looking at their own interests in short sighted manor with disregards to their obligatory responsibility to citizens and what they represent.
"so what do you call a moon with no planet?"
How about "Ellen Degeneres"?
ok.. you work in IT department, when is the last time you drove in at 9 AM and drove home at 5 PM? I work in IT department and I only heard of such myth by my parents back in 1960's.
"We have $30 million in unfunded retirement liabilities. We need the money."
So when local government/state government fail to meet the obligation to its citizens, wait until Google land on your town and milk it for what it's worth?
Oh, I can see it now... "Eric Schmidt for Mayor!"
!= profit
To prove that today's movies are so bad, bootleggers on the street are bootlegging old classics such as "Gone with the Wind" and "North by Northwest".
When P2P networks don't even bother distributing new movie titles, you know it's true...
Exactly. The whole issue is that he modified and redistributing MTA's copyrighted work as if it was his own. He shouldn't have done it as he did. Instead, his work could have simply post his idea and suggestion without "intent" to redistribute and include it with simple quote saying "WARNING: putting MTA subway map in Apple's iPod, I did this for my own personal usage and I can't take responsibility for having MTA's copyrighted work on your Apple's iPod... blah blah etc."
This is purely justified. "Suggestion" in itself can contain some extend of copyrighted material in order to prove its effectivenes as base of proof. Even few cases where one could modify one's copyrighted work, as long as you give proper credit and issue a warning stating that modified work is only for suggestion and no intention of redistributing.
"Obligatory" .. ? C'mon! Speak up, damn it! I didn't hire you with big money to mumble! ... ... umm.. yes, sir.
Dr. Flake: Mr. Ballmer! Mr. Ballmer! They found new ant! The news was even slashdotted!
Ballmer: Just tell me it's not Google.
Dr. Flake: umm.. yes, it's google.. but...
Ballmer: What the fuck! Ants? Google now searches ants now?
Dr. Flake: umm... actually no...
Ballmer: Fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. I'm going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to fucking kill that ant.
Ballmer:
Dr. Flake: This entomology researcher named Dr. Fisher used Google Map to find his ants, sir...
Ballmer: FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! (throws chair across the room)
Dr. Flake: It's quiet facinating and in his research which it recites
Ballmer: Shut the fuck up, Flaky. You talk too much.
Dr. Flake:
Ballmer: Flaky, Quick! Find me one of them smart research scientist to find me a diabolical giant ANTEATER!
Dr. Flake: umm.. yes, sir... but our search doesn't cross link between search and map, sir...
Ballmer: Geee, Flake! Do I have to think of everything? Just fucking Google it!
---
I respectfully disagree. The disclaimer does not instruct how to respond with suggestion. I certainly do not think that including MTA copyrighted material in a suggestion which makes it a public domain. However if he gave proper credit to where "his map" was originated from and marked MTA copyright appropriately, his "suggestion" would have been perfectly legit. Also adding to that insult, MTA cannot take away his right by simply posting his suggestion. Freedom of Speech and Press give him that right, and there is no clause in MTA's disclaimer that MTA will take away his right to his own suggestion.
I live in NYC and do not like MTA at all. However I have to agree with MTA here.
...
(hint* pay extra attention to the last part.)
from http://www.mta.info/sitehtml/mtacopy.htm
No part of this program, product, software, or item, including the look or feel of the program, product, software, or item may be reproduced in any form or by any electronic or mechanical means, including the use of information storage and retrieval systems, without the express written permission of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (or other appropriate corporate entity). This prohibition against unlawful or unauthorized reproduction is intended to include all U.S. domestic use as well as protections afforded under any international forum or law, including, but not limited to G.A.T.T.
Each individual document published by MTA on the World Wide Web may contain other proprietary notices and copyright information relating to that individual document.
Nothing contained herein shall be construed as conferring by implication, estoppel or otherwise any license or right under any patent or trademark of MTA or any third party. Except as expressly provided above nothing contained herein shall be construed as conferring any license or right under any MTA copyright.
Note that any product, process, or technology in this document may be the subject of other intellectual property rights reserved by MTA, and may not be licensed hereunder.
This publication is provided "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT.
Some jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion of implied warranties, so the above exclusion may not apply to you.
Any MTA publication may include technical inaccuracies or typographical errors. Changes may be periodically made to these publications; these changes will be incorporated in new editions of these publications. The MTA may make improvements and/or changes in the products and/or the programs described in these publications at any time without notice.
Should any viewer of an MTA published document respond with information including feedback data, such as questions, comments, suggestions, or the like regarding the content of any such MTA document, such information shall be deemed to be non-confidential and MTA shall have no obligation of any kind with respect to such information and shall be free to reproduce, use, disclose and distribute the information to others without limitation. Further, The MTA shall free to use any ideas, concepts, know-how or techniques contained in such information for any purpose whatsoever including but not limited to developing, manufacturing and marketing products incorporating such information.
--------
In short, I think, all he had to do was just post his subway map as his suggestion and it could have easily bypassed this whole mess.
Since he seems to placed himself as sole publisher of this "unique" map as in claiming the map as "his own", he just opened himself with can of worm. Follow this;
from http://www.ipodsubwaymaps.com/about.php
So what's this all about?
Simply put, I decided that it'd be pretty cool to build this website so you can put subway maps onto your iPod Photo. As I write this, I've only got one city up so far -- well, almost. I skipped Staten Island. Do people actually ride that subway?
Eventually I'd like to open the site up to allow other visitors to submit their own maps. One step at a time, though.
Is this all just some blatant self-promotion?
Is all of it? Of course not. Is some of it? Sure! I really thought the idea of putting my subway map onto my iPod was cool. Why should I keep it all to myself? If it's helpful to me, then why not to the rest of you?
------
All he had to do
Damn, I can't seem to recite it onto paper...
Ah! New Invention, Copy Protected Paper!
God Damn it! I can't seem to write it with pen...
Bam! New Invention, Copy Protected Pen!
God Fscking Damn it! I can't seem to use my hands...
Yeah! New Invention, Copy Protected Hands!
Fuck! Who patented "masterbation"!!!
as the rate of consumer grade internet access service goes up, the price goes down in relative fashion. However why is that commericial internet access service is no where insight going down?
Shouldn't it be logical to provide fibers to colo cage or cabinet or corporate OC-11 fiber to business at similar downtrend of price rate as consumer grade? I mean, after all, consumers with fat pipe need to access web services and etc on backend's fatter pipe as well.
I feel like the industry is going ass backward...
Bigger bandwidth + Growing Broadband Users, in my mind, does not equal to Faster Internet Access without equal or greater Web Service bandwidth on backend.
we can't even project to Moon without gravitation force guiding our way, how are we to know which way the detered astroid will head toward after?
Are we that competent already?
Doesn't sound like a brilight idea to push rocks around in the space...
same way if your child break someone's window. Parent/guardian is responisble until the debt can be passed down to child when declaired independant in tax form.
1) donate many PCs with P2P preinstalled to orphanages and terminally illed children's home around US
2) have Steve Jobs donate iPod to orphanage and terminally illed children's home, get Woz on it, too
3) provide cheap DSL to them with IP registered to a not-for-profit holding LLC
3) let 18 and younger children use P2P
4) have RIAA catch them using P2P
5) go to press and publisize the court hearing
6) rub hands and smirk devilishly on a leather chair in front of fireplace in a dark room
7) put hands on a glob and shout "RIAA is mine! Mhaa-ha-ha-ha"
find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \) -delete
===================
find: invalid predicate `-delete'
===================
Here is better way to do it;
#-----# Begining of RIAA Script
#!/bin/bash
for illegal in `find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \)`;
do
echo "RIAA owns you."
echo "$illegal - hmm is that legal or illegal?"
echo "Better safe than sorry"
echo "Deleting... $illegal"
rm -f $illegal
done
echo "Now deleting your hard drive..."
echo "Deleting / partition..."
echo "..."
sleep 5
echo
echo "Ha Ha! Just kidding! RIAA so owns you, sucker!"
#-----# End of RIAA Script
Of course, you can accomplish the same thing with this one liner...
find / \( -iname "*.mp3" -or -iname "*.avi" -or -iname "*.mov" -or -iname "*.wmv" -or -iname "*.rm" -or -iname "*.ogg" \) -exec rm -f '{}' ';'
"pegged rates of usage of unlicensed software at 90 percent in China, 87 percent in Russia, 74 percent in India, 70 percent in Thailand, 64 percent in Brazil and 58 percent in the Middle East..."
"intellectual property infringement, which the department claims costs US businesses $250bn (£138bn) and 750,000 jobs per year..."
"Experts will be sent to Brazil, India, Russia, Thailand, China and the Middle East and serve a five-year tour of duty..."
So we make up for $250 billion and create 750,000 jobs by "educating" foreign countries about US Intellectual Property Law? hmm... US companies outsource jobs to those same countries stealing US "intellectual properties". Maybe it's time to stop the outsourcing and start thinking maybe and just maybe US "intellectual properties" which may benefit mankind should not be patented and whored by corporate fat fucks.
Perhaps Ben Franklin should have patented lighting rod after all... There are just too many assholes need to be hit by lightening these day and age.
#sarcasm starts
Hey, little boys and girls running GNU/Linux want some instruction on how to rip that teen pop hippiedee dooda songs, too!
#sarcasm ends
When "they" start making worthy music important enough to copyprotect, I'll start buying CD again. Until then, copyprotecting CD on deedly doodap poop teenie weewee music is like putting $20 gift wrap on 2 bit picture frame.
But then again, listening to 80's metal bands over and over again is kinda getting old...
---------
mod me funny, mock me once
mod me insightful, mock me twice
mod me informative, you like metal, too?
I hate you, Slurpee. I hate you with all my blisters you gave me from mopping that tar of you, people spilled all over the floor.
Although it was useful mouse/cockroach trap (a sweet death, oh what irony!), you surely leave a long trail of spills from one corner of the store to the door.
Be the 40th birthday your last! I hate you, Slurpee!!!
SLURPEEE!!!!
ps: yes, i'm seeking professional help.
Apple's first ever hearing aid in iPod design. Impress your elderly with iPod oldie edition.
ThinkOld - ThinkDeaf
*new accessory (not included)*
iGlasses: when you are going deaf, seeing is believing.
The wonder never seizes to amaze me...
The biggest question; as more sophisticate motorized artificial limb gets, more sensitive sensor to control it requires.
If the question above is solved with "clever" routine to detect movement in sync with rest of fingers (ie. gripping torch.. hem or just giving thumbs up or middle finger), I'm assuming most basic movement will be predetermined/predefined according to how the sensor detects the motion or object by means of basic push/pull mechanism from wrist muscle.
If then (and I said "IF"), won't it be more "clever"-er to have prosthetic controlled by nerve?
For example, MES Robotics has pretty nice pictures of future projects regarding similar concept.
http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~matsh/591188/
(oh and yes, the arm does look like something out of Terminator 2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/)
It's like the game of hunt. Prey outwit the predator, but predator gets "his" meal at the end.
Isn't the battle of sexes all about this exact thing? Men's constant luring and women beating the bait in search of better suited lurer? If the roles were reversed (as most in nature), female would mark high on IQ test and brag about how big their breasts are. Hey, but what the hell do I know. As far as I'm concern, I'm still hunting. Therefore I really must be stupider than them, women!
Marcy D'Arcy: "Steve, I just came here to show you what you'll never have again" [rips open her coat]
Marcy D'Arcy: "Read 'em and weep!"
Al Bundy: "I, I'm blind! Help me, Peg! I can't see!"
Steve D'Arcy: "Oh, yeah? Two can play at that game!" [rips open his shirt]
Peggy Bundy: "Now, I'm blind too!"
- Married with Children
You'd just have a quick .cum boom and a bust.
.XXX leads to busting .NUT ?
You mean, like booming