Different groups of people. On one side you have diapered 12-year olds sitting in basements yelling that music should be free so they don't have to beg mommy for money. On the other, you have developers pissed that somebody is taking their code without any recompense.
Many of the devs are hard at work for plain Mozilla. This makes the development of Firefox seem slow, but a lot of code from Mozilla can be (and is) used in Firefox through the Gecko engine. You don't have to exclusivly work on Firefox to help Firefox.
That said, I wish there were more devs working on Firefox-specific issues.
"Gentoo makes me so much more productive." "Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."
Of course, you could just not use -j5000 on your P2.
"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!" "Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom."
I don't quote dumbasses at you, don't you quote them back at me. This is, by the way, being spoken to you by somebody who designs programs used company-wide.
"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs." "Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."
If they were "scared off" by a text-based FreeBSD install, how did they install Gentoo?
"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo." "I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and.debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."
Or perhaps it's because everything is prelinked and doesn't come with every possible combination of library support.
"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..." "...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."
This isn't even insulting to Gentoo, why is it on your troll post?
"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..." "I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH.rpms together on the command line, and that problems hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't designed for)."
If you can't even figure out what Dep Hell is, why are you trying to prove how smart you are by invoking it?
"All the other distros are soooo out of date." "Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -O9 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours."
Stop quoting dumbass ricers not indicitive of the Gentoo community as a whole.
"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future." "OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"
First, nobody except a dumbass would say "Gentoo is the future." Second, Gentoo is quite ready for corporate deployment and works well for most tasks. Plus, how will it eat up companies' time?
And how long will it take to fix the Linux problems, compared to the Windows problem descibed in the article?
Linux way of fixing things: 1) Discover there is a problem 2) Send a patch to kernel maintainers 3) Kernel is patched
Windows way of fixing things: 1) Discover problem 2) Tell Microsoft 3) Two months later, when Microsoft has done nothing, tell the world 4) Get possibly sued by Microsoft (if MS can to a Russian company) 5) After several viruses have exploited the vulnerability, Microsoft makes a patch that won't install correctly.
You can save Knoppix settings to a drive. Presumably the people have done this (couldn't RTFA, site is slashdotted)
The movie seems to be set after/during Episode 3. How do they know what they are filming will not conflict with the official movie?
Mudflap tells you when you've done something stupid, so you can fix it. It's not there to fix things for you without your knowledge.
No matter what's set by default, most stupid users will click "yes".
You're thinking of Looking Glass. Looking Glass and Java Desktop are two seperate entities.
Works fine on my offical codec-ed, WMP. Try not screwing your computer up, dumbass.
Different groups of people. On one side you have diapered 12-year olds sitting in basements yelling that music should be free so they don't have to beg mommy for money. On the other, you have developers pissed that somebody is taking their code without any recompense.
You heard wrong.
Coding in enough security holes.
but they usually say that they think it's crisper and the look is more consistent across applications.
Don't you mean Krisper?
Yes, there is a project underway to reduce Gnome bloat. There are even bounties being offered for fixing bloated apps.
"Abdul! I tried to call tech support for the explosives, but all I got was one of those damn foreign Americans! Bloody outsourcing!"
Konq can't use Gecko yet, as far as I know. But there is a project underway to port Gecko to being a QT control.
Many of the devs are hard at work for plain Mozilla. This makes the development of Firefox seem slow, but a lot of code from Mozilla can be (and is) used in Firefox through the Gecko engine. You don't have to exclusivly work on Firefox to help Firefox.
That said, I wish there were more devs working on Firefox-specific issues.
Find out on the next episode of "As Slashdot Turns!"
Most telemarketers don't seem to want to leave a message at all.
If you're going to troll, at least be original
.debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."
.rpms together on the command line, and that problems hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't designed for)."
"Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
"Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."
Of course, you could just not use -j5000 on your P2.
"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
"Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom."
I don't quote dumbasses at you, don't you quote them back at me. This is, by the way, being spoken to you by somebody who designs programs used company-wide.
"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
"Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."
If they were "scared off" by a text-based FreeBSD install, how did they install Gentoo?
"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo."
"I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and
Or perhaps it's because everything is prelinked and doesn't come with every possible combination of library support.
"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
"...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."
This isn't even insulting to Gentoo, why is it on your troll post?
"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..."
"I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH
If you can't even figure out what Dep Hell is, why are you trying to prove how smart you are by invoking it?
"All the other distros are soooo out of date."
"Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -O9 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours."
Stop quoting dumbass ricers not indicitive of the Gentoo community as a whole.
"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
"OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"
First, nobody except a dumbass would say "Gentoo is the future." Second, Gentoo is quite ready for corporate deployment and works well for most tasks. Plus, how will it eat up companies' time?
...a ploy by drive makers. "Running out of disk space? You need our NEW UBER SUPER DRIVE OMG!!!"
"Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."
Guess I'll have to get a more secure browser, like IE
"Nothing for you to see here, please move along". Oh no!
You're thinking of kids 5-12.
You don't have to use Gentoo to not use an uptight, pseudo-religious distro.
More like Gentoo and Vim
And how long will it take to fix the Linux problems, compared to the Windows problem descibed in the article?
Linux way of fixing things:
1) Discover there is a problem
2) Send a patch to kernel maintainers
3) Kernel is patched
Windows way of fixing things:
1) Discover problem
2) Tell Microsoft
3) Two months later, when Microsoft has done nothing, tell the world
4) Get possibly sued by Microsoft (if MS can to a Russian company)
5) After several viruses have exploited the vulnerability, Microsoft makes a patch that won't install correctly.
Any operating system being run on another operating system will require emulation.