You have a moron running the town, what do you expect, seriously, call the coast guard or the army if you have any doubt, they are always up to speed with what aliens might be here, with all the radar equip they have....they would also know standard protocal for something like this should it ever happen.
I think this issue is a grey area, as many third party vendors offer a service using the apis available to them to get this info anyways for free....he just bypassed the middle man, and now instead of you coding your own work and using the api, you use his wrapper and are able to get much easier all the info needed, as this seems to do nothing more then what you already can do with the facebook apis.
Being a developer , I love being able to use something like this, instead of reinventing the wheel, there is also no mention he is not allowed to share his work for or without compensation, to allow others to do the same he is doing.
If i create an app or addon that allows me to backup my info on my local pc, and pass this app around,and facebook does not like it, well if I used the tools they provide to do this with, and do nothing illegal, then they should not cry like little babies because they were too lazy to do what I created or offer.
If being able to acess the info of so many ppl is what is problematic, put a max ppl info obtained flag per session that way, you have to reconnect each time to get new info, or think of something else, but don't cry after you made the mistake yourself of saying go ahead and do what you want with this code.
What you propose is so common sense, and yet they make it sound like great feats of engineering to come up with them....seriously all they need is to control access to the systems, and limit the apps on each machine, no chat clients or internet, your less bound to use them for other things then monitor power grid consumptions etc... Also, I tend to think you under simplified the problem....dumb-asses need to go, and get some real geeks in place
The UK was also responsible for ruling against someone who had on a website defamed (supposedly, as I think telling someone what a religion does is not defamation) the Scientology cult and making certain aspects of its religion known to non practicing people... and ruled in favor of Scientology, which to me contradicts what this now has been ruled. The English have soo many backward ways about them, I am part British, and so many times have to laugh at how assenine they are....they still have royalty, in today's day and age, talk about still living in the old world.
I gotta say I agree with you, although he would have to have had it outside the temp IE cache as it has now become considered not par of the environment of the PC and owned solely by anonymous contributors, as I could hide a picture inlay with proper photo in a hidden iframe which then would pop up inside your cache, so technically for someone to get prosecuted they now have to be saving the images elsewhere on their hdd, an i think the guy thought the only way to ensure that the images stayed on the hdd, was to force them manually and then avoid the detection or deletion of the images by sending the hdd out right away....this plan was bound to fail at any rate....
I heard also that some kid sent a photo to her boyfriend and they were both under age, but the boy is being prosecuted for owning child p0rn as the school discovered he had the image on his phone, and is now setting a precedent as we speak in court over how to handle this situation.
It really has become a witch hunt, and i think that we do need to address the issue but have more specific means of determining how the images got their, and if there is no doubt that this person intended full well to keep without permission or distribute such materials, then they would be prosecuted for such.
Funny i read the word "buffer overflow" and to my knowledge this is considered part of the unit testing and not the fuzzy. As for many not doing fuzzy testing, well i never considered the 2 seperate issues in my unit testing, so you will have to pardon my lack of empathy for the situation
Yet so many people take this class and then some, to learn UML, Unit testing, variants of stress testing, even how to stand their ground against unwanted elements in the environment, but one thing will never change, if the boss says to do it his way, you can either finally do it his way, or hit the highway, and usually this is were the problem lies.
I have come across a few times in my life that the necessary steps were avoided on purpose and left many with critical bugs in their apps, only because of some higher up decision being taken to cut costs and save resources, to only have to spend more in the end.
I have heard many times M$ stood for develop and ship now, debug and patch later...however never having worked there I could never confirm such blatant disregard for proper protocol.
Coming from a programmer's point of view, this is like saying a nurse used an alcohol swab before plunging a needle into your arm, to avoid you contracting anything....i think in today's world this is all pretty standard even for the smaller budget companies, most are unit test driven and have intensive test environments to stress test their apps. I have seen this even in a company as small as 3 programmers. Do they want a medal, seriously....i am thinking of saying something....maybe someone would care to finish my thought I have blasted them enough already....?
Likewise, I too thought it was cool, when 1 in 5 was a joke, but now, it is way too many, I almost stopped reading/. altogether today because of it....and I really don't like giving up my/.
I very often use my cell phone while i drive as I am know that I am able to do it as I never take my eyes of the road, even to dial (speed dial), I often even eat on the road while driving, but there is a way of driving while doing activities that you must be aware of.....you can not be clueless, or unaware while driving...as there is no room for error.
Accidents happen because of lack of care....if you pay close enough attention, you can always avoid most accidents. Many people are oblivious though, and giving them another reason to be even less aware on the road is not a good thing. I do not think cell phones should be illegal, but then again I do think many people should not be allowed to drive... and have their license revoked
Isn't that like the giant black hole calling the kettle black, please..... M$ should tidy their backyard first, before talking about anyone else being doing evil... especially against someone like google who has been all about doing no evil....and has proven an excellent track record.
I agree to a certain extent with your comment, especially using a car as a main example to describe computer usage.... I wold never drive a car without having taken courses first, and even then, some people are such bad drivers, it is not because they own a car they pass the test to drive. As well i would also try to force them to realise more the conduct on the road as a blueprint for surfing the web...road signs need to know how to read them and use them to avoid traffic, or jams, or to know when to stop...using a mechanical stand point might not be fair on the situation...let's use headlights instead.
Most people do need to know how to turn on their headlights if they are going to drive at night, each car has their own place for such a thing, some on the dashboard, some on the steering column, but most people know how to use them, and know to turn them on at night....unless they want a ticket from the cops.
Likewise, people using browsers, should know about security, and how it applies to them, knowing that you are secure is different then knowing WHY you are secure. Also, if they are about to let their kids use the computer, how to control them from going on bad sites, etc....there are many ways to spin the analogy but in the end, I do agree that not because you own a computer that you know how to use one.
How much you want to bet that this was not deliberate on their part...this is part of the whole scheme of them cyberattacking all other countries and controlling the new cyberage.
I don't think they should care about this, as the user should be allowed to delete info on their accounts associated through third party softwares if all in all they wish to
Probably not wanting people to know they have a sort of networked hubs floating in space, that work like routers all picky backed to one another, so they can send the info to the rovers by way of digital waves of sorts. If everyone knew, they would try to hack into that feed and disrupt the rover's mission. i think keeping it secret is a good thing...
I tend to agree that many glamorize the evidence they have to help construe certain facts about botnets and what not. If we had a real number based on fingerprinting scheme, sort of like each one logged on marks itself in some way on a global scale, to then be able to document stats from, i am sure at any one time you will never have more then xxx active infected pcs....seeing as there is also timezones to consider and also when the control centers are temp. shot down either on purpose (to avoid detection) or by accident (forced shut downs)
Please, let's......, let's all send them CP images to their cell phones, and then bring them in for booking on possesion of CP, then we can start fresh with a new government, of which all politicians will fear the people, and perform as if their lives depended on it! Imagine, no more non accountable politicians!!!
This is just one of those funny situations that seems whatever he tries to do to not be the messiah aforementioned, he makes it worse because it was prophesied (in a very silly manner) that he would try to deny any of it. So by denying it, he makes it worse, and so on, instead I would have made myself their king and told them i need as much gold as i could get my hands that they need to find for me, to build my spaceship, and once i got enough gold to retire, would move to the cayman islands....but that is just me.
>The reactor destroys waste by firing streams of neutrons at it, reducing atomic waste by up to 99 percent!
I wonder when I hear this, is it going up in smoke into the atmosphere, or really disintegrating... there is a difference, as the smoke could be toxic, and should it get out, contaminate the air, where as disintegrating it, would mean exactly that, no longer exists.
So don't use IE, now don't use FF, soon, don't use Opera or Safari, come on, they want no one to use the net, or what? Seriously, what do they expect, instead of warning to not use them, instead warn how to use them in combination with updates, patches, AV, and firewalls, but that would be a little more effort!
Unfortunately, we still live in this type of society, the whole fact that the guy even though chinese, made sure to contact the proper authorities and let them know, "hey you got a problem....here's how you fix it" would mean he is working WITH and not AGAINST the US, no? Just like if i tell someone you have a flat tire, in case he did not notice it, does not mean i am responsible not only for making it flat, but if he gets in an accident down the road, it just means he is stupid if he stills drives on it, after i told him so.
The politicians think using propaganda to hide the fact we are very fragile and could not sustain a wide range attack of this type will deal with the population being aware of this, and I think the fact that this chinese guy tried to make light of the inadequacies of the system, is flagrant proof of this, I wonder if it was a white male that made this public, how they would have tried to spin it to the public... something to do with insanity, or alien abduction or anything to disclaim that person from having a valid point.
At the cost of sounding too sci-fi, i can tell you right now the only time we will truly be able to go paperless, much or less... We need to develop a small portable machine that chews up paper from one end, and shreds it, pulps it, then repapers it on the other side, that way all the recycling needed is to buy the machine and mast involved, then what ever paper is needed can be found anywhere, no more paper costs, because we already have all the paper we need....we just rechew it each time over.
Problem is, the cost of such a machine, and even once mass produced to bring the price down, it would have to remain up to th companies to enforce their policies of using such machines and recycling their own paper.
Well, it can only become adopted by the masses if more people use it and force their doctor to start using it as well. If i go see my doctor and tell him after wards to update my google health profile because I ASK HIM TO, then he has my permission , for a broken arm, to update my status, and that can become more and more useful. Only by letting people say, it wont work and believing them, will it truly not work.
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You have a moron running the town, what do you expect, seriously, call the coast guard or the army if you have any doubt, they are always up to speed with what aliens might be here, with all the radar equip they have....they would also know standard protocal for something like this should it ever happen.
I think this issue is a grey area, as many third party vendors offer a service using the apis available to them to get this info anyways for free....he just bypassed the middle man, and now instead of you coding your own work and using the api, you use his wrapper and are able to get much easier all the info needed, as this seems to do nothing more then what you already can do with the facebook apis.
Being a developer , I love being able to use something like this, instead of reinventing the wheel, there is also no mention he is not allowed to share his work for or without compensation, to allow others to do the same he is doing.
If i create an app or addon that allows me to backup my info on my local pc, and pass this app around,and facebook does not like it, well if I used the tools they provide to do this with, and do nothing illegal, then they should not cry like little babies because they were too lazy to do what I created or offer.
If being able to acess the info of so many ppl is what is problematic, put a max ppl info obtained flag per session that way, you have to reconnect each time to get new info, or think of something else, but don't cry after you made the mistake yourself of saying go ahead and do what you want with this code.
What you propose is so common sense, and yet they make it sound like great feats of engineering to come up with them....seriously all they need is to control access to the systems, and limit the apps on each machine, no chat clients or internet, your less bound to use them for other things then monitor power grid consumptions etc...
Also, I tend to think you under simplified the problem....dumb-asses need to go, and get some real geeks in place
The UK was also responsible for ruling against someone who had on a website defamed (supposedly, as I think telling someone what a religion does is not defamation) the Scientology cult and making certain aspects of its religion known to non practicing people...
and ruled in favor of Scientology, which to me contradicts what this now has been ruled. The English have soo many
backward ways about them, I am part British, and so many times have to laugh at how assenine they are....they still have royalty, in today's day and age, talk about still living in the old world.
I gotta say I agree with you, although he would have to have had it outside the temp IE cache as it has now become considered not par of the environment of the PC and owned solely by anonymous contributors, as I could hide a picture inlay with proper photo in a hidden iframe which then would pop up inside your cache, so technically for someone to get prosecuted they now have to be saving the images elsewhere on their hdd, an i think the guy thought the only way to ensure that the images stayed on the hdd, was to force them manually and then avoid the detection or deletion of the images by sending the hdd out right away....this plan was bound to fail at any rate....
I heard also that some kid sent a photo to her boyfriend and they were both under age, but the boy is being prosecuted for owning child p0rn as the school discovered he had the image on his phone, and is now setting a precedent as we speak in court over how to handle this situation.
It really has become a witch hunt, and i think that we do need to address the issue but have more specific means of determining how the images got their, and if there is no doubt that this person intended full well to keep without permission or distribute such materials, then they would be prosecuted for such.
Funny i read the word "buffer overflow" and to my knowledge this is
considered part of the unit testing and not the fuzzy.
As for many not doing fuzzy testing, well i never considered the 2 seperate
issues in my unit testing, so you will have to pardon my lack of
empathy for the situation
Yet so many people take this class and then some, to learn UML, Unit testing,
variants of stress testing, even how to stand their ground against unwanted elements in the environment, but one thing will never change, if the boss says to do it his way, you can either finally do it his way, or hit the highway, and usually this is were the problem lies.
I have come across a few times in my life that the necessary steps were avoided on purpose and left many with critical bugs in their apps, only because of some higher up decision being taken to cut costs and save resources, to only have to spend more in the end.
I have heard many times M$ stood for develop and ship now, debug and patch later...however never having worked there I could never confirm such blatant disregard for proper protocol.
Coming from a programmer's point of view, this is like saying a nurse used an alcohol swab before plunging a needle into your arm, to avoid you contracting anything....i think in today's world this is all pretty standard even for the smaller budget companies, most are unit test driven and have intensive test environments to stress test their apps. I have seen this even in a company as small as 3 programmers. Do they want a medal, seriously....i am thinking of saying something....maybe someone would care to finish my thought
I have blasted them enough already....?
Likewise, I too thought it was cool, when 1 in 5 was a joke, but now, it is way too many, I almost stopped reading /. altogether today because of it....and I really don't like giving up my /.
I am hoping this is just another april fool's joke, and that I have nothing to worry about, as I really LOVE isohunt!
I very often use my cell phone while i drive as I am know that I am able to do it as I never take my eyes of the road, .....you can not be clueless, or unaware while driving...as there is no room for error.
even to dial (speed dial), I often even eat on the road while driving, but there is a way of driving while doing activities that
you must be aware of
Accidents happen because of lack of care....if you pay close enough attention, you can always avoid most accidents.
Many people are oblivious though, and giving them another reason to be even less aware on the road is not a good thing.
I do not think cell phones should be illegal, but then again I do think many people should not be allowed to drive...
and have their license revoked
Isn't that like the giant black hole calling the kettle black, please.....
M$ should tidy their backyard first, before talking about anyone else being doing evil...
especially against someone like google who has been all about doing no evil....and has proven an excellent track record.
I agree to a certain extent with your comment, especially using a car as a main example to describe computer usage.... I wold never drive a car without having taken courses first, and even then, some people are such bad drivers, it is not because they own a car they pass the test to drive.
As well i would also try to force them to realise more the conduct on the road as a blueprint for
surfing the web...road signs need to know how to read them and use them to avoid traffic, or jams, or to know when to stop...using a mechanical stand point might not be fair on the situation...let's use headlights instead.
Most people do need to know how to turn on their headlights if they are going to drive at night, each car has their own place for such a thing, some on the dashboard, some on the steering column, but most people know how to use them, and know to turn them on at night....unless they want a ticket from the cops.
Likewise, people using browsers, should know about security, and how it applies to them, knowing that you are secure is different then knowing WHY you are secure. Also, if they are about to let their kids use the computer, how to control them from going on bad sites, etc....there are many ways to spin the analogy but in the end, I do agree that not because you own a computer that you know how to use one.
How much you want to bet that this was not deliberate on their part...this is part of the whole scheme of them cyberattacking all other countries and controlling the new cyberage.
I don't think they should care about this, as the user should be allowed to delete info on their accounts associated through third party softwares if all in all they wish to
Probably not wanting people to know they have a sort of networked hubs floating in space, that work like routers all picky backed to one another, so they can send the info to the rovers by way of digital waves of sorts. If everyone knew, they would try to hack into that feed and disrupt the rover's mission. i think keeping it secret is a good thing...
I tend to agree that many glamorize the evidence they have to help construe certain facts about botnets and what not.
If we had a real number based on fingerprinting scheme, sort of like each one logged on marks itself in some way on a global scale, to then be able to document stats from, i am sure at any one time you will never have more then xxx active infected pcs....seeing as there is also timezones to consider and also when the control centers are temp. shot down either on purpose (to avoid detection) or by accident (forced shut downs)
Please, let's......, let's all send them CP images to their cell phones, and then bring them in for booking on possesion of CP, then we can start fresh with a new government, of which all politicians will fear the people, and perform as if their lives depended on it! Imagine, no more non accountable politicians!!!
That would be like....like.....heaven on earth!
This is just one of those funny situations that seems whatever he tries to do to not be the messiah aforementioned, he makes it worse because it was prophesied (in a very silly manner) that he would try to deny any of it. So by denying it, he makes it worse, and so on, instead I would have made myself their king and told them i need as much gold as i could get my hands that they need to find for me, to build my spaceship, and once i got enough gold to retire, would move to the cayman islands....but that is just me.
>The reactor destroys waste by firing streams of neutrons at it, reducing atomic waste by up to 99 percent!
I wonder when I hear this, is it going up in smoke into the atmosphere, or really disintegrating...
there is a difference, as the smoke could be toxic, and should it get out, contaminate the air,
where as disintegrating it, would mean exactly that, no longer exists.
So don't use IE, now don't use FF, soon, don't use Opera or Safari, come on, they want no one to use the net, or what?
Seriously, what do they expect, instead of warning to not use them, instead warn how to use them in combination with updates, patches, AV, and firewalls, but that would be a little more effort!
Unfortunately, we still live in this type of society, the whole fact that the guy even though chinese, made sure to contact the proper authorities and let them know, "hey you got a problem....here's how you fix it" would mean he is working WITH and not AGAINST the US, no? Just like if i tell someone you have a flat tire, in case he did not notice it, does not mean i am responsible not only for making it flat, but if he gets in an accident down the road, it just means he is stupid if he stills drives on it, after i told him so.
The politicians think using propaganda to hide the fact we are very fragile and could not sustain a wide range attack of this type
will deal with the population being aware of this, and I think the fact that this chinese guy tried to make light of the inadequacies of
the system, is flagrant proof of this, I wonder if it was a white male that made this public, how they would have tried to spin it to the public... something to do with insanity, or alien abduction or anything to disclaim that person from having a valid point.
At the cost of sounding too sci-fi, i can tell you right now the only time we will truly be able to go paperless, much or less...
We need to develop a small portable machine that chews up paper from one end, and shreds it, pulps it, then repapers it on the other side, that way all the recycling needed is to buy the machine and mast involved, then what ever paper is needed can be found anywhere, no more paper costs, because we already have all the paper we need....we just rechew it each time over.
Problem is, the cost of such a machine, and even once mass produced to bring the price down, it would have to remain up to th companies to enforce their policies of using such machines and recycling their own paper.
Well, it can only become adopted by the masses if more people use it and force their doctor to start using it as well. If i go see my doctor and tell him after wards to update my google health profile because I ASK HIM TO, then he has my permission , for a broken arm, to update my status, and that can become more and more useful.
Only by letting people say, it wont work and believing them, will it truly not work.
Maybe we could outsource the administration part as well,
replace all domestic CEOs with cheaper outsourced CEOs.