Yesss !:) For me, the Monkey Island series are the most humorous games ever:) Countless hours of fun and laugh on the jokes:)
Hey, do you remember the rubber tree joke, or the scene when G.T. had to make the dogs sleep with the meat+y.petal (assuring they aren't dead just sleeping:) And I could go on 4ever:)
When there's enough fun (meaning not only the jokes and humor, of course) with a game, it can be a long lasting experience, that's for sure.
...just note that 3 of those distros are debian or debian-based (debian, knoppix, mepis):) and that very many others are not even mentioned, although I would've liked to see how F/O/NBSD people are described:)
I just could not notice having become troll for that comment. Oh well, whatever you want guys. Thing is, I'm using Apache 1 and 2 versions on some linux and windows machines, some out on the web, some for local development, whatever. There are also some folks I know, who run linux and windows servers for db and web serving, 1&2 apache's mixed. But every commited one of them (which I am not, not having an admin job, and I wouldn't ever want one) never considered exposing an A2 server out to the large scale public (just remember A2 and PHP thread problems, module migration problems - maybe these or not such a problem anymore, the shadows still lurk). Call them (or me) freaking FUD spreaders, it's just our way.
So we're the bad guys, stupid guys, whatever (like I care), and we're not worth talking about Apache, we poor schmucks. But you guys, who raise A2 into the clouds of Olympus, you rock, 'cause you know the truth.
Hey, it's your right to live in a country which the rest of the world increasingly sees as the evil big brother. It's your right, to accept all it comes with it. And it's your right to call the article FUD-spreading. And it's my right to say you're one of those stupid AC's.
I just don't like a world where every sw developer who writes 2 lines of code needs to have bad dreams and his purse ready because some US big boy may come down on him at dawn. Where 2 friends can't share their stuff because some US or US-licking association could long for their money or threaten them otherwise. Where one can't copy an officially bought disk and give it to the little sister. Where my personal and communicational data can be freely snooped by US or US-licking agencies. Where for some words or a bad day and a sweating face one can be held for hours on a US/UK airport. Where one has to smile and finger the device (pun intended) like an ordinary criminal to enter a free country.
He probably read some of Arthur C. Clarke's [i.e. The Fountains of Paradise, 1979], a very good point for'im. Just the idea with the cables sound somewhat... coiling [i.e. around our necks]:) However, if one saw some of Star Trek's Voyager's, one could've seen Neelix and co. operating a suborbital magnetic elevator. Now that ruled:D
I'd mod that a funny troll if I could. Apache2 is unfortunately still more a security risk than a better Apache. It's ok for development and testing, but you'd better not use it on reallife servers exposed to others than white test rats.
As a systems admin, I don't want to fuss around with kernels, deciding between a distribution, and all that jazz
Well, you must be some kind of a system admin. One thing certain: you'll never be root.
Thing is, what you say is only true for one type of admin: who raises a hand when asked who wants to do it. No history, no experience.
Ok, didn't want to do this, but I can't hold it:) There was some guy who set up a RedHat web/db/mail/cvs server. He wasn't an uberguru, just a guy who knew what he was doing. That machine has been going and going for more than 3 years without being stopped, only on power failures. I had to replace it this summer because it's CPU fan stopped and the CPU just went bye-bye, and it was pretty old anyways.
The new one is going on Debian/Woody of course:)) but that's not the point. The point is, once/month dist-upgrade and it's a runner for at least the next 3 years if the gods of hardware permit:)
I would openly directly naturally and severly fight any argument war on all fronts of server capabilities against anyone who would replace it with any Windows server version.
Windows may have more virii, but that is because it is more popular.
OMG, this argument will never go away, will it. It's when you keeep teaching a parrot to say "nancy" and after two years it still just says "dumba$$".
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[...]these boxes have the same level of security and protection as the commercial products[...]
If it had just the same level (and most probably "commercial" means MS here), it wouldn't be worth the fuss to convert the win' aussie gov. people over to the OSS side.
Gee, a friend of mine just told me a few days back about a project where Oracle DB is used as backend on a win machine with a sw firewall (I won't name it, I won't blame it). That necause they are hell afraid of being trojan'd hijacked you name it. That sw firewall (one which isn't considered bad, usually) made that machine so darn slow (probably too many connections) it had just ramained barely usable for anything else. When switched off, voila, a speedy machine.
I never ever had ever ever see such misery on any linux with properly configured iptables.
[...]with a team of developers and users, this backdoor was identified within a couple of days[...]
It's not the fast identification that's the most important, it's the fast solution that is, and no company with closed sources can do that faster and better than the OSC (i.e. open source commnunity).
1. Why do you think Ubuntu is better than Debian. I'm an old-timer Debian user, I also tried Ubuntu (as I have tried many other distros over the years, and do so continuously as my time permits), but I don't see any reason I or anyone else should choose Ubuntu over Debian specifically. Please convince me.
2. Why isn't Ubuntu able to set itself up normally on a pretty regular (really nothing unusual in it at all) x86 pc with a single ide hdd and specified xfs-formatted partitions with grub ? Grub just hung itself, I restarted the install (ctrlaltdel-d the darn thing after >30 minutes (!)), chroot-ed on a console, installed lilo, but all I got was a kernel panic when it tried to mount my root.
I also tried rc versions of 4.1 earlier, which installed nicely on ext3 but it had package problems I didn't have time to check after.
All in all, I consider myself pretty skilled in linux and not just in setting up some distro from around the block. But Ubuntu just couldn't convince me.
To the guys with how-does-it-fit-on-a-DVD: the resolution they work with is the scanning res needed to process the cleaning on high quality. The size is the uncompressed size of th scanned frames. When putting on a DVD the resolution is highly reduced and compressed into mpeg2.
Well, and that is not what's usually the biggest size. I participated in a project in which we cleaned up a pretty much damaged color movie from the 1950s. It was about 130000 frames, each frame was scanned into ~2K files (w/ 3 channels, 10 bit log density / channel - this res was enough for this movie, but usually higher scanning res is required). If you add that up, multiply it by a few times for storage of during-the-work duplicates for checking, quick back stepping, etc. and you end up with lotsa-lotsa hard drives.
Then calc up how much space you would need to process all that stuff on e.g. 4 or 6K res.
Microsoft really made me believe that wmv9 was mature enough to be an industry standard.
Excuse me, but it's a company's job to make people believe their stuff is good and the best and is what you need, what everyone needs. This has been the main MS policy since the beginnings, to make people believe and accept that what they need is right there in their hands.
But over time some people evolved technically to the point where they can see that just because some fscking rich guy says that things are supposed to happen the one way they wish, that shouldn't be and isn't always true.
Regarding WMV9 vs H.264/MPEG4-AVC... there shouldn't have ever been a debate about this. Even basic H.264 implementations show enough that one could see it is a good solution. WMV9 is nothing more that MS gathered while being around all comitee meetings regarding the evolution and implementation of H.264 features. Trash together a working implementation, add a few million bucks on marketing and brainwashing, pay some dinners for the right ceo's and hey, what you get ? WMV9 on HD DVD's. Nothing new here, just how things work.
Too bad that there are some people who know some stuff about technical matters on HD video coding and some of them work around SMPTE and not at One Microsoft Way.
Google has provided a tool to easily access your data. It indexes data it can get it hands on. If it can access sensitive data like credit card info, passwords etc. which the original poster mentioned then it's not its fault. The problem lies in the protection of sensitive data, the lack of it, that is. If you don't protect your stuff it's not Google's tools that's your enemy, it's every trojan out there.
Anyway, this is anything but a compulsory tool, so I don't see the reason for the negative hype. Nowadays it's just chic to start flaming on anything that pops up.
You don't trust it, don't use it, move on. But no, that would be too easy, ain't it:P
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It doesn't seem reason enough to build a new protocol for TCP replacement just because it is "old". Protols ar not living beings you know, aging doesn't show on their cells. Of course troubles always has been popping up over the years, but nothing unsolvable (and nothing in the likings of IP).
All in all, it's good to have new alternative solutions and new technologies at hand, but to state such things as replacing TCP 'cause its age (maturity, that is:D ) is a bit winged to say the least.
Good point. And I add another one: I live in the EU, I have two engineering degrees and I earn ~$380/month. No, it's not the best I could get, but it's not the worse either (you could tell me to get my a$$ in the US and get paid, but I'm staying sorry guys:D ).
No way I would change my Debians just to pay loads of cash to Ballmer&co.
I dont't think a browser will become good by not conforming to standards. I don't think _any_ browser should mimic IE's behaviour, which is anyithing _but_ following w3c standards or recommendations.
Just because so many people use IE that doesn't mean we (or Firefox or anyone else) should drop the following of standards just to render broken code like IE does.
Broken code should be rendered broken, so the coders who put up shitty pages realize that their skills are reasonably flawed.
It's the same old MS poliy that everyone can click their way thourgh anything. Joe Anybody sits down, produces 2 megs of frontpage generated crap which is 10 k's in clean source and css, and thinks (s)he's a genius, because IE renderes it ok.
I can but hope the day will finally come when not only linux people and real coders will produce compliant page sources, but everyone. Utopia.
Too bad that simple physics prevent this from becoming a reality (the resistance of air at nano-level is too large, for example)
In many cases that is not a problem. E.g. you make metal gathering proteins to be released in a liquid, or proteins able to detect and contain specific other proteins in a blood stream, and I could go on and on.
Nanotechnology doesn't just mean to be able to manufacture chips on smaller scales. Another very much more important aspect is what we could do with specificly "manufactured" proteins in medicine. And this is not a such far dream, there are people working on this, even some which I know, let alone those whom I don't.
how safe is it to be able to access anything just by putting a disk in the drive
Well, on my machines (i.e. which I use, @home or @work) only booting from the main hdd is allowed, everythig else is disabled, bios pass'ed. If I want to boot from something else, I enable it. One would need many minutes long work to open the cases and reset the bioses especially if they don't know the specific mobo.
Not a very good protection by any means, but it stops giggling coworkers from being jerks on my machine.
I don't say K/Gnoppix is no good, because it's just great, imho the best live linux version for jumpstarting linux illiterates (other people check this. And I don't argue you can do lots of things with it. But for accessing and managing filesystems in general... well, access my xfs partitions with a knoppix please. or better not, keep away:)
If one wants to have rescue stuff ready, ones prepares good rescue stuff. E.g. an usb drive with a mini distro with >2 kernel versions helluvalot compiled modules, all possible filesystem support, disk fscking tools (for all supported filesystems) and you don't relly need much more.
A general purpose 2.4.x-based live distro for the masses jsut doesn't always qualify for such uses.
You know the drill, use the right tool for the job.
I Googled for the mentioned topics, and I've found photos on the matter. I'm not in the US though.
Yesss ! :) For me, the Monkey Island series are the most humorous games ever :) Countless hours of fun and laugh on the jokes :)
:) And I could go on 4ever :)
Hey, do you remember the rubber tree joke, or the scene when G.T. had to make the dogs sleep with the meat+y.petal (assuring they aren't dead just sleeping
When there's enough fun (meaning not only the jokes and humor, of course) with a game, it can be a long lasting experience, that's for sure.
Some day when there is a federal Europe, they could quite easily become militarily hostile. We will then whip their ass like we did in WW1 and WW2.
G, no smiley in the whole post.
I'm scared. No, really, I'm scared. If a new generation like this (being junior) is risen in the States, then I'm truly scared.
...just note that 3 of those distros are debian or debian-based (debian, knoppix, mepis) :) and that very many others are not even mentioned, although I would've liked to see how F/O/NBSD people are described :)
I just could not notice having become troll for that comment. Oh well, whatever you want guys. Thing is, I'm using Apache 1 and 2 versions on some linux and windows machines, some out on the web, some for local development, whatever. There are also some folks I know, who run linux and windows servers for db and web serving, 1&2 apache's mixed. But every commited one of them (which I am not, not having an admin job, and I wouldn't ever want one) never considered exposing an A2 server out to the large scale public (just remember A2 and PHP thread problems, module migration problems - maybe these or not such a problem anymore, the shadows still lurk). Call them (or me) freaking FUD spreaders, it's just our way.
So we're the bad guys, stupid guys, whatever (like I care), and we're not worth talking about Apache, we poor schmucks. But you guys, who raise A2 into the clouds of Olympus, you rock, 'cause you know the truth.
For the typo: well, that's still just me.
Hey, it's your right to live in a country which the rest of the world increasingly sees as the evil big brother. It's your right, to accept all it comes with it. And it's your right to call the article FUD-spreading. And it's my right to say you're one of those stupid AC's.
I just don't like a world where every sw developer who writes 2 lines of code needs to have bad dreams and his purse ready because some US big boy may come down on him at dawn. Where 2 friends can't share their stuff because some US or US-licking association could long for their money or threaten them otherwise. Where one can't copy an officially bought disk and give it to the little sister. Where my personal and communicational data can be freely snooped by US or US-licking agencies. Where for some words or a bad day and a sweating face one can be held for hours on a US/UK airport. Where one has to smile and finger the device (pun intended) like an ordinary criminal to enter a free country.
I won't go on, I'm picky this morning.
I know this is meant to be funny, but on a serious note, it's probably NOT a good thing for people to think P2P is on the decline
/. , right ?
And you _really_ think those kinds of people who would believe _those_ guys the world of p2p is dying are regular on
He probably read some of Arthur C. Clarke's [i.e. The Fountains of Paradise, 1979], a very good point for'im. Just the idea with the cables sound somewhat... coiling [i.e. around our necks] :) However, if one saw some of Star Trek's Voyager's, one could've seen Neelix and co. operating a suborbital magnetic elevator. Now that ruled :D
You need to stop the criminals at their source, not after they've walked into your house.
Gee, I wouldn't make you sheriff in my town. You'd better recheck your big-brother-o-meter if it's working ok.
I'd mod that a funny troll if I could. Apache2 is unfortunately still more a security risk than a better Apache. It's ok for development and testing, but you'd better not use it on reallife servers exposed to others than white test rats.
As a systems admin, I don't want to fuss around with kernels, deciding between a distribution, and all that jazz
:) There was some guy who set up a RedHat web/db/mail/cvs server. He wasn't an uberguru, just a guy who knew what he was doing. That machine has been going and going for more than 3 years without being stopped, only on power failures. I had to replace it this summer because it's CPU fan stopped and the CPU just went bye-bye, and it was pretty old anyways.
:)) but that's not the point. The point is, once/month dist-upgrade and it's a runner for at least the next 3 years if the gods of hardware permit :)
Well, you must be some kind of a system admin. One thing certain: you'll never be root.
Thing is, what you say is only true for one type of admin: who raises a hand when asked who wants to do it. No history, no experience.
Ok, didn't want to do this, but I can't hold it
The new one is going on Debian/Woody of course
I would openly directly naturally and severly fight any argument war on all fronts of server capabilities against anyone who would replace it with any Windows server version.
Windows may have more virii, but that is because it is more popular.
OMG, this argument will never go away, will it. It's when you keeep teaching a parrot to say "nancy" and after two years it still just says "dumba$$".
4$$h013 4$$h013 4$$h013 4$$h013 4$$h013
[...]these boxes have the same level of security and protection as the commercial products[...]
If it had just the same level (and most probably "commercial" means MS here), it wouldn't be worth the fuss to convert the win' aussie gov. people over to the OSS side.
Gee, a friend of mine just told me a few days back about a project where Oracle DB is used as backend on a win machine with a sw firewall (I won't name it, I won't blame it). That necause they are hell afraid of being trojan'd hijacked you name it. That sw firewall (one which isn't considered bad, usually) made that machine so darn slow (probably too many connections) it had just ramained barely usable for anything else. When switched off, voila, a speedy machine.
I never ever had ever ever see such misery on any linux with properly configured iptables.
[...]with a team of developers and users, this backdoor was identified within a couple of days[...]
It's not the fast identification that's the most important, it's the fast solution that is, and no company with closed sources can do that faster and better than the OSC (i.e. open source commnunity).
Two questions.
:)
1. Why do you think Ubuntu is better than Debian. I'm an old-timer Debian user, I also tried Ubuntu (as I have tried many other distros over the years, and do so continuously as my time permits), but I don't see any reason I or anyone else should choose Ubuntu over Debian specifically. Please convince me.
2. Why isn't Ubuntu able to set itself up normally on a pretty regular (really nothing unusual in it at all) x86 pc with a single ide hdd and specified xfs-formatted partitions with grub ? Grub just hung itself, I restarted the install (ctrlaltdel-d the darn thing after >30 minutes (!)), chroot-ed on a console, installed lilo, but all I got was a kernel panic when it tried to mount my root.
I also tried rc versions of 4.1 earlier, which installed nicely on ext3 but it had package problems I didn't have time to check after.
All in all, I consider myself pretty skilled in linux and not just in setting up some distro from around the block. But Ubuntu just couldn't convince me.
You try
To the guys with how-does-it-fit-on-a-DVD: the resolution they work with is the scanning res needed to process the cleaning on high quality. The size is the uncompressed size of th scanned frames. When putting on a DVD the resolution is highly reduced and compressed into mpeg2.
Well, and that is not what's usually the biggest size. I participated in a project in which we cleaned up a pretty much damaged color movie from the 1950s. It was about 130000 frames, each frame was scanned into ~2K files (w/ 3 channels, 10 bit log density / channel - this res was enough for this movie, but usually higher scanning res is required). If you add that up, multiply it by a few times for storage of during-the-work duplicates for checking, quick back stepping, etc. and you end up with lotsa-lotsa hard drives.
Then calc up how much space you would need to process all that stuff on e.g. 4 or 6K res.
Microsoft really made me believe that wmv9 was mature enough to be an industry standard.
Excuse me, but it's a company's job to make people believe their stuff is good and the best and is what you need, what everyone needs. This has been the main MS policy since the beginnings, to make people believe and accept that what they need is right there in their hands.
But over time some people evolved technically to the point where they can see that just because some fscking rich guy says that things are supposed to happen the one way they wish, that shouldn't be and isn't always true.
Regarding WMV9 vs H.264/MPEG4-AVC... there shouldn't have ever been a debate about this. Even basic H.264 implementations show enough that one could see it is a good solution. WMV9 is nothing more that MS gathered while being around all comitee meetings regarding the evolution and implementation of H.264 features. Trash together a working implementation, add a few million bucks on marketing and brainwashing, pay some dinners for the right ceo's and hey, what you get ? WMV9 on HD DVD's. Nothing new here, just how things work.
Too bad that there are some people who know some stuff about technical matters on HD video coding and some of them work around SMPTE and not at One Microsoft Way.
Google has provided a tool to easily access your data. It indexes data it can get it hands on. If it can access sensitive data like credit card info, passwords etc. which the original poster mentioned then it's not its fault. The problem lies in the protection of sensitive data, the lack of it, that is. If you don't protect your stuff it's not Google's tools that's your enemy, it's every trojan out there.
:P
Anyway, this is anything but a compulsory tool, so I don't see the reason for the negative hype. Nowadays it's just chic to start flaming on anything that pops up.
You don't trust it, don't use it, move on. But no, that would be too easy, ain't it
It doesn't seem reason enough to build a new protocol for TCP replacement just because it is "old". Protols ar not living beings you know, aging doesn't show on their cells. Of course troubles always has been popping up over the years, but nothing unsolvable (and nothing in the likings of IP).
:D ) is a bit winged to say the least.
All in all, it's good to have new alternative solutions and new technologies at hand, but to state such things as replacing TCP 'cause its age (maturity, that is
Good point. And I add another one: I live in the EU, I have two engineering degrees and I earn ~$380/month. No, it's not the best I could get, but it's not the worse either (you could tell me to get my a$$ in the US and get paid, but I'm staying sorry guys :D ).
No way I would change my Debians just to pay loads of cash to Ballmer&co.
I dont't think a browser will become good by not conforming to standards. I don't think _any_ browser should mimic IE's behaviour, which is anyithing _but_ following w3c standards or recommendations.
Just because so many people use IE that doesn't mean we (or Firefox or anyone else) should drop the following of standards just to render broken code like IE does.
Broken code should be rendered broken, so the coders who put up shitty pages realize that their skills are reasonably flawed.
It's the same old MS poliy that everyone can click their way thourgh anything. Joe Anybody sits down, produces 2 megs of frontpage generated crap which is 10 k's in clean source and css, and thinks (s)he's a genius, because IE renderes it ok.
I can but hope the day will finally come when not only linux people and real coders will produce compliant page sources, but everyone. Utopia.
So at least your ignorance isn't contagious. Fortunately.
Too bad that simple physics prevent this from becoming a reality (the resistance of air at nano-level is too large, for example)
In many cases that is not a problem. E.g. you make metal gathering proteins to be released in a liquid, or proteins able to detect and contain specific other proteins in a blood stream, and I could go on and on.
Nanotechnology doesn't just mean to be able to manufacture chips on smaller scales. Another very much more important aspect is what we could do with specificly "manufactured" proteins in medicine. And this is not a such far dream, there are people working on this, even some which I know, let alone those whom I don't.
how safe is it to be able to access anything just by putting a disk in the drive
Well, on my machines (i.e. which I use, @home or @work) only booting from the main hdd is allowed, everythig else is disabled, bios pass'ed. If I want to boot from something else, I enable it. One would need many minutes long work to open the cases and reset the bioses especially if they don't know the specific mobo.
Not a very good protection by any means, but it stops giggling coworkers from being jerks on my machine.
I don't say K/Gnoppix is no good, because it's just great, imho the best live linux version for jumpstarting linux illiterates (other people check this. And I don't argue you can do lots of things with it. But for accessing and managing filesystems in general... well, access my xfs partitions with a knoppix please. or better not, keep away :)
If one wants to have rescue stuff ready, ones prepares good rescue stuff. E.g. an usb drive with a mini distro with >2 kernel versions helluvalot compiled modules, all possible filesystem support, disk fscking tools (for all supported filesystems) and you don't relly need much more.
A general purpose 2.4.x-based live distro for the masses jsut doesn't always qualify for such uses.
You know the drill, use the right tool for the job.