"This just shows the problem with creating a really high minimum wage. Everyone who was already making that amount will want a raise, too."
It's only a problem in the immediate context and really it's only a problem because clearly employees were being under paid, thus Amazon's raising their internal minimum wage. If employees were paid properly so this sudden adjustment didn't need to be made this wouldn't be a problem.
"I hope Amazon loves the results of their social experiment. It will only prove to them how over-employed they are and push for even more automation, like the Japanese warehouse that cut its employees by 90% after automating."
Of course Amazon's big problem right now is a labor shortage due to low unemployment. Make no mistake, this wage change has absolutely nothing to do with altruism, it has everything to do with making themselves competitive at their lowest levels with McDonald's.
"For the hard of reading, that one scene trashed four decades of established space combat"
Oh Jesus, Star Wars space combat (or even combat in general) is so massively unrealistic it's not that big of deal. If you think too hard about most combat oriented things in the original trilogy they fall apart pretty quickly (near invincible tanks on stilts? Most Imperial weaponry has a built in critical weakness? Just to barely scratch the surface). They're only great because of their cinematic appeal which is what the scene in question was trying to accomplish. I'm sure if they ever care to explain it they can use a similar after the fact explanation like they did when they tried to explain why Hahn uses a unit of distance with the clear implication it's a unit of time or speed when referring to the Kessel Run.
"Oh yeah, SO irrational to say "hey my job is done here I'm out" a la Han Solo in the first movie. Only Han had his name on the shit list of one crime lord, not the whole Empire."
That was not at all the extent of Fin acting cowardly. You need to re-watch the movie. Fin is a cowardly character, front to back.
"The one sticking point is Lt. Connix."...and everyone else on the ship who as you have reminded me, mutinied. There was no spy sub plot in the movie and they're on frick'n military space ships in the voids of outer space.
Well I completely disagree with you about the imaginary vehicle we're talking about needing to be completely stripped down. We have plenty of things that fly with decent mass.
I do completely agree with you that we don't have a proper power supply for a version that would be in any way affordable for anyone but the most affluent but that's outside the context of the parents post I was replying to.
"Umm, where do you think you are going to land this thing?"
Umm, any place you can land a small harrier jet which would be literally any outdoor parking lot, particularly if the car was fully automated. The only realistic discussion on flying cars worth having is one that might be practical some day which means we need a cheaper means of generating the vast amounts of power one of these vehicles would need to operate. Really, we pretty much have all the tech to make one now and over come any of the hurdles you or the parent have brought up. It would just cost way too much for almost anyone to own / operate one using jet fuel which is the only viable power source I can think of right now for something like this.
Why would they need to be especially good at either? A flying car is certainly for a completely different context than most planes and as a car it would would only need to offer an adequate experience as any trips of significant length (like the commute from the burbs to major urban areas for work) would likely be done in the air.
So how are any of your points different from how software would teach people? Most commercial software has a terrible track record for being kept up to date.
So all senior staff was left out? Sorry, this was just a crap way to build tension as, as viewers we all had access to senior staff's story. "Hey guess what!? You know that thing that every main character was seemingly worried about!? Well it's been planned for all along so don't worry about it anymore". What a crap device.
Still tons better than just recreating a previous Star Wars movie though
"Holdo didn't tell Poe about the plan, but maybe she told the other senior staff. Remember he had just been demoted so was not privy to information he would previously have been told."
What I remember is everyone being completely hopeless because they thought they were truly fucked.
"The light speed attack probably only worked because of the mass of the ship that was used, the largest that the rebels possessed. It wouldn't make sense to sacrifice ships like that when there are other effective weapons. Also keep in mind that it wasn't even that effective - it damaged a lot of ships but it didn't stop the First Order pursuing."
It was a massively devastating attack and in the movie it was clearly illustrated that it took out a ton of capital ships at the cost of one. Meanwhile they had literally been ditching warp capable ships for half the movie. Now don't get me wrong, it's not as if the original trilogy isn't without this shit either (let's put our near indestructible tanks on fucking stilts!) but at least AT-ATs have some real dramatic appeal.
"Yeah, so why I said "you hit on one of the main reasons"."
No, you weren't simply agreeing with me otherwise you wouldn't have been so wordy; there is literally no need for you to be so if all you're doing is agreeing. You took my point and elaborated on it to fuel your contrary point that the latest Star Wars was worse than what I was saying it was.
"Established bullshit, by the fact that he defected, knowing full well what that would mean. If he was just a coward, he would have just "accidentally" injured himself for a medical discharge."
Fin was an irrational bitch in the first movie and he was one in the second. I really don't care if you disagree with me because that's just how it was.
Astounding ignorance is believing that such a major disruption in such a massive employer in the third world ( https://data.worldbank.org/ind... ) and yet one that needs to make truly massive efficiency gains to feed everyone ( https://www.cnbc.com/2014/10/1... ) will be compensated for by "progress".
Western agriculture is already massively automated and using up most of the available land it has for agriculture which means the real gains in food production will necessitate the sudden adoption of ultra modern tech in third world agriculture. When all these third worlder's suddenly become unemployed what are they going to do? These are people from countries that can't afford to properly educate their own people, there's no way the vast majority of them will just magically "adapt" and create the needed economic growth to employ themselves in other industries.
Meanwhile, white collar jobs are being increasingly automated which in the past is where manual laborers went when they were displaced by technology.
Sorry, but believing in historic pasterns in the face of overwhelming contrary data is what is astoundingly ignorant. In other words it's really astounding ignorant to think that society will always be able to keep up with Moore's Law. Society needs to start planning for this shit.
"The most interesting part is that even though the stunt woman pulled some serious fake falls, complete with Hollywood-style tumbling down a hill, the Apple Watch was able to figure out if the fall was fake and didn't offer to call emergency services."
Yeah right. How do we know the watched was that smart and just didn't trigger properly on what should have been perceived as a massive fall. The type of stunts stunt people do are not normal activities that should be ignored for the rest of us.
Yet people will still claim modern automation has no potential downfalls. What happens to a world when one of the most significant employers of unskilled human labor (the food industry) goes all automated? Will an increasingly automated skilled work force replace it? I seriously doubt it.
Now, I'm not arguing that we should forbid mass automation of unskilled labor because even if we don't allow it here some country with no regards to human rights (China maybe?) will happily allow it to our determent. What I am saying is that we need a game plan for a very probable scenario.
"Ultimately, doing nothing is crushing to the human spirit. Why would you want to do that?"
The summary mentions he was "working" from home so he probably wasn't "doing nothing". He was probably doing whatever else he wanted to do with his life.
I'm undecided on the morality of this but having most of every single day to do what you want sounds like a dream to me although i did get to enjoy it for a 5 month unemployed period that I could afford
"The Georgia Tech online masters in computer science costs $7,000. Typical cost to sit in a lecture hall is about $50,000. That traditional method is going to have to be a whole lot better to make it worth costing seven times as much."
Those costs are symptomatic of a fucked up system and not just the way things have to be. I mean, take a moment and do the math on a class full of students paying 50k each.
"I've been around computer science, in software engineering, for 20 years. One thing I've learned is that to earn well over your career, you need to keep learning, keep your skills up to date. What you learned ten years ago in school isn't enough, in fact it's mostly just background education to make it easier to learn the tools and techniques you'll actually use in your job."
Off topic. Keeping ones skills up to date is not the same as getting ones initial education.
"Yeah, you hit one one of the prime reasons. Why bother building expensive X-Wings and training expensive X-Wing pilots when you could take any thousand year old personal shuttle that can make lightspeed, put a thousand year old droid in control, and use them to disable/destroy a Star Destroyer. Why didn't Alderaan's defensive fleet (they must have had something) all go Kamikaze on the Death Star within a minute of it dropping out of orbit. Why bother building a Death Star when you could load up some ancient freighters and use them as mass drivers to exterminate all life on a planet."
Yeah, so what I said.
The Fin character was an established annoying coward since the first movie with all the attached dumb character motivations so hardly a surprise there.
As for your Luke stuff and whatever ASRGRDAZASRG Rian Johnson means, I have no idea what you're going on about.
This is all very nice but I'd like to see some data before I will even become anywhere close to believing kids will learn better via automation than via a human teacher.
What fucking website is this you are even showing me? I have no interest in picking threw their data to find flaws. FIRST WORD NATIONS WITH GREATER GUN CONTROL HAVE MASSIVELY LOWER HOMICIDE RATES. It's an easily observable statistic based on highly reliable data.
"Both are as corrupt as fuck and both totally controlled by special interest groups and big companies, yet one or the other is your only realistically viable choice when voting. Sure you can write-in mickey mouse or vote for independents, but the realistic chance that changes anything is zero. Its all just a part of continuing the grand illusion that Americans have any actual say."
Nice. Your bitterness towards our system does nothing to disprove that people are free to vote for any damn person they want.
Let me it put it more plainly. You are using anecdotal evidence to try to establish a norm. Your experience with your teacher is magnificent but it does nothing to dispute my point that there is no economic incentive for people skilled with computers to teach. Sure, there will always be those passionate about teaching enough to forgo money in the name of educating others but you can't base an entire educational system on good fucking will.
Why I have to explain this to a grown ass adult is beyond me.
I really never got The Last Jedi freak out, Sure, there was the admiral with blue hair who for some unexplainable reason left her crew hopeless rather than tell them where they were going. And sure, in a civilization with sentient robots for some reason she needed to piloted a suicide attack against the chasing fleet. And sure, if that attack is so devastating why aren't there weapons that do that?
In the end though, at least the movie wasn't a fucking carbon copy of one of the original trilogy movies. The second it came up they were going on a third fucking Death Star run in The Force Awakens (complete with: "another Death Star?", "No! It's bigger, see...") I have had no use for that movie. What a terrible ending.
Rogue One is still easily the best of the new movies (that scene where the rebel fleet warps in right on top of those two star destroyers!? And a hammer head corvette doing its thing in action!?) but Last Jedi really wasn't that bad. Especially relative to just fucking copying a classic.
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Your question makes no sense. Cutting back isnt about reversing climate change that's already happened, it's about stopping its continued growth
I liked the gambling planet (Star Wars worlds are always one dimensional)
"This just shows the problem with creating a really high minimum wage. Everyone who was already making that amount will want a raise, too."
It's only a problem in the immediate context and really it's only a problem because clearly employees were being under paid, thus Amazon's raising their internal minimum wage. If employees were paid properly so this sudden adjustment didn't need to be made this wouldn't be a problem.
"I hope Amazon loves the results of their social experiment. It will only prove to them how over-employed they are and push for even more automation, like the Japanese warehouse that cut its employees by 90% after automating."
Of course Amazon's big problem right now is a labor shortage due to low unemployment. Make no mistake, this wage change has absolutely nothing to do with altruism, it has everything to do with making themselves competitive at their lowest levels with McDonald's.
"For the hard of reading, that one scene trashed four decades of established space combat"
Oh Jesus, Star Wars space combat (or even combat in general) is so massively unrealistic it's not that big of deal. If you think too hard about most combat oriented things in the original trilogy they fall apart pretty quickly (near invincible tanks on stilts? Most Imperial weaponry has a built in critical weakness? Just to barely scratch the surface). They're only great because of their cinematic appeal which is what the scene in question was trying to accomplish. I'm sure if they ever care to explain it they can use a similar after the fact explanation like they did when they tried to explain why Hahn uses a unit of distance with the clear implication it's a unit of time or speed when referring to the Kessel Run.
"Oh yeah, SO irrational to say "hey my job is done here I'm out" a la Han Solo in the first movie. Only Han had his name on the shit list of one crime lord, not the whole Empire."
That was not at all the extent of Fin acting cowardly. You need to re-watch the movie. Fin is a cowardly character, front to back.
"The one sticking point is Lt. Connix." ...and everyone else on the ship who as you have reminded me, mutinied. There was no spy sub plot in the movie and they're on frick'n military space ships in the voids of outer space.
What on earth does my occupation have to do with this and why should it have anything to do with the topic at hand?
To acknowledge your other more reasonable request, you state,
"Ones education in computer science is very likely done in either a teaching language or an outdated language."
Why would Georgia Tech's online masters course be any different?
Some sort of punching device maybe?
Well I completely disagree with you about the imaginary vehicle we're talking about needing to be completely stripped down. We have plenty of things that fly with decent mass.
I do completely agree with you that we don't have a proper power supply for a version that would be in any way affordable for anyone but the most affluent but that's outside the context of the parents post I was replying to.
"Umm, where do you think you are going to land this thing?"
Umm, any place you can land a small harrier jet which would be literally any outdoor parking lot, particularly if the car was fully automated. The only realistic discussion on flying cars worth having is one that might be practical some day which means we need a cheaper means of generating the vast amounts of power one of these vehicles would need to operate. Really, we pretty much have all the tech to make one now and over come any of the hurdles you or the parent have brought up. It would just cost way too much for almost anyone to own / operate one using jet fuel which is the only viable power source I can think of right now for something like this.
Why would they need to be especially good at either? A flying car is certainly for a completely different context than most planes and as a car it would would only need to offer an adequate experience as any trips of significant length (like the commute from the burbs to major urban areas for work) would likely be done in the air.
So how are any of your points different from how software would teach people? Most commercial software has a terrible track record for being kept up to date.
So all senior staff was left out? Sorry, this was just a crap way to build tension as, as viewers we all had access to senior staff's story. "Hey guess what!? You know that thing that every main character was seemingly worried about!? Well it's been planned for all along so don't worry about it anymore". What a crap device.
Still tons better than just recreating a previous Star Wars movie though
"Holdo didn't tell Poe about the plan, but maybe she told the other senior staff. Remember he had just been demoted so was not privy to information he would previously have been told."
What I remember is everyone being completely hopeless because they thought they were truly fucked.
"The light speed attack probably only worked because of the mass of the ship that was used, the largest that the rebels possessed. It wouldn't make sense to sacrifice ships like that when there are other effective weapons. Also keep in mind that it wasn't even that effective - it damaged a lot of ships but it didn't stop the First Order pursuing."
It was a massively devastating attack and in the movie it was clearly illustrated that it took out a ton of capital ships at the cost of one. Meanwhile they had literally been ditching warp capable ships for half the movie. Now don't get me wrong, it's not as if the original trilogy isn't without this shit either (let's put our near indestructible tanks on fucking stilts!) but at least AT-ATs have some real dramatic appeal.
"Yeah, so why I said "you hit on one of the main reasons"."
No, you weren't simply agreeing with me otherwise you wouldn't have been so wordy; there is literally no need for you to be so if all you're doing is agreeing. You took my point and elaborated on it to fuel your contrary point that the latest Star Wars was worse than what I was saying it was.
"Established bullshit, by the fact that he defected, knowing full well what that would mean. If he was just a coward, he would have just "accidentally" injured himself for a medical discharge."
Fin was an irrational bitch in the first movie and he was one in the second. I really don't care if you disagree with me because that's just how it was.
Astounding ignorance is believing that such a major disruption in such a massive employer in the third world ( https://data.worldbank.org/ind... ) and yet one that needs to make truly massive efficiency gains to feed everyone ( https://www.cnbc.com/2014/10/1... ) will be compensated for by "progress".
Western agriculture is already massively automated and using up most of the available land it has for agriculture which means the real gains in food production will necessitate the sudden adoption of ultra modern tech in third world agriculture. When all these third worlder's suddenly become unemployed what are they going to do? These are people from countries that can't afford to properly educate their own people, there's no way the vast majority of them will just magically "adapt" and create the needed economic growth to employ themselves in other industries.
Meanwhile, white collar jobs are being increasingly automated which in the past is where manual laborers went when they were displaced by technology.
Sorry, but believing in historic pasterns in the face of overwhelming contrary data is what is astoundingly ignorant. In other words it's really astounding ignorant to think that society will always be able to keep up with Moore's Law. Society needs to start planning for this shit.
"The most interesting part is that even though the stunt woman pulled some serious fake falls, complete with Hollywood-style tumbling down a hill, the Apple Watch was able to figure out if the fall was fake and didn't offer to call emergency services."
Yeah right. How do we know the watched was that smart and just didn't trigger properly on what should have been perceived as a massive fall. The type of stunts stunt people do are not normal activities that should be ignored for the rest of us.
Yet people will still claim modern automation has no potential downfalls. What happens to a world when one of the most significant employers of unskilled human labor (the food industry) goes all automated? Will an increasingly automated skilled work force replace it? I seriously doubt it.
Now, I'm not arguing that we should forbid mass automation of unskilled labor because even if we don't allow it here some country with no regards to human rights (China maybe?) will happily allow it to our determent. What I am saying is that we need a game plan for a very probable scenario.
"Ultimately, doing nothing is crushing to the human spirit. Why would you want to do that?"
The summary mentions he was "working" from home so he probably wasn't "doing nothing". He was probably doing whatever else he wanted to do with his life.
I'm undecided on the morality of this but having most of every single day to do what you want sounds like a dream to me although i did get to enjoy it for a 5 month unemployed period that I could afford
"The Georgia Tech online masters in computer science costs $7,000. Typical cost to sit in a lecture hall is about $50,000. That traditional method is going to have to be a whole lot better to make it worth costing seven times as much."
Those costs are symptomatic of a fucked up system and not just the way things have to be. I mean, take a moment and do the math on a class full of students paying 50k each.
"I've been around computer science, in software engineering, for 20 years. One thing I've learned is that to earn well over your career, you need to keep learning, keep your skills up to date. What you learned ten years ago in school isn't enough, in fact it's mostly just background education to make it easier to learn the tools and techniques you'll actually use in your job."
Off topic. Keeping ones skills up to date is not the same as getting ones initial education.
"Yeah, you hit one one of the prime reasons. Why bother building expensive X-Wings and training expensive X-Wing pilots when you could take any thousand year old personal shuttle that can make lightspeed, put a thousand year old droid in control, and use them to disable/destroy a Star Destroyer. Why didn't Alderaan's defensive fleet (they must have had something) all go Kamikaze on the Death Star within a minute of it dropping out of orbit. Why bother building a Death Star when you could load up some ancient freighters and use them as mass drivers to exterminate all life on a planet."
Yeah, so what I said.
The Fin character was an established annoying coward since the first movie with all the attached dumb character motivations so hardly a surprise there.
As for your Luke stuff and whatever ASRGRDAZASRG Rian Johnson means, I have no idea what you're going on about.
This is all very nice but I'd like to see some data before I will even become anywhere close to believing kids will learn better via automation than via a human teacher.
What fucking website is this you are even showing me? I have no interest in picking threw their data to find flaws. FIRST WORD NATIONS WITH GREATER GUN CONTROL HAVE MASSIVELY LOWER HOMICIDE RATES. It's an easily observable statistic based on highly reliable data.
" Firstly the US is a republic not a democracy"
No, it's a democracy under the modern definition of the term. https://www.merriam-webster.co... Nice ignorance though.
"Both are as corrupt as fuck and both totally controlled by special interest groups and big companies, yet one or the other is your only realistically viable choice when voting. Sure you can write-in mickey mouse or vote for independents, but the realistic chance that changes anything is zero. Its all just a part of continuing the grand illusion that Americans have any actual say."
Nice. Your bitterness towards our system does nothing to disprove that people are free to vote for any damn person they want.
I do remember those although I didn't as of that posting. Nice reference.
And if you want "exceptionally rare teaching" you need to be paying a decent wage.
Let me it put it more plainly. You are using anecdotal evidence to try to establish a norm. Your experience with your teacher is magnificent but it does nothing to dispute my point that there is no economic incentive for people skilled with computers to teach. Sure, there will always be those passionate about teaching enough to forgo money in the name of educating others but you can't base an entire educational system on good fucking will.
Why I have to explain this to a grown ass adult is beyond me.
I really never got The Last Jedi freak out, Sure, there was the admiral with blue hair who for some unexplainable reason left her crew hopeless rather than tell them where they were going. And sure, in a civilization with sentient robots for some reason she needed to piloted a suicide attack against the chasing fleet. And sure, if that attack is so devastating why aren't there weapons that do that?
In the end though, at least the movie wasn't a fucking carbon copy of one of the original trilogy movies. The second it came up they were going on a third fucking Death Star run in The Force Awakens (complete with: "another Death Star?", "No! It's bigger, see...") I have had no use for that movie. What a terrible ending.
Rogue One is still easily the best of the new movies (that scene where the rebel fleet warps in right on top of those two star destroyers!? And a hammer head corvette doing its thing in action!?) but Last Jedi really wasn't that bad. Especially relative to just fucking copying a classic.