one hell of a good link. I started reading, followed a few links to other of his posts and now I've got 9 tabs with articles open that I still want to read and I'm shure that there will be links to more stuff in there...
I think they are proposing it this way simply becouse it woulden't require a solar farm + microwave cannon to be put in orbit where it's hard to do maintenance etc.
On earth, we already have power supply and easy, low cost acces.
basicaly, it's the difference between 1) shooting a cargo with fuel and a engine onboard to mars 2) shooting both the cargo and the engine into orbit, with a small extra load to gather fuel (solar farm) 3) shooting the cargo into orbit while the engine and fuel stays on earth.
option 3 seems to be the easiest to setup and might be cheaper depending on the price to get the engine ans solar farm into orbit for option 2.
then how are you gone decide who's dumb and who isn't? is the guy that knows nothing of math a dumb person? even tho he can make a masterpiece out of a piece of wood in the back of his garage? or is the person that get's a flat tire on the highway and doesen't know how to fix it dumb? Even tho he is the head of a research group at work? etc. As far as I know, there is no way to decide who's dumb and who's not, simply becouse allot of people tend to be intelegent in their own way, even tho it doesen't show right away and can't be tested by IQ tests.
btw, I to think that there are allot of dumb people out there. But I'm just saying that allot of those people that seem dumb aren't always dumb in the end.
I would call that a good thing... once china starts racing for a permament base on the moon, you'll have others following (USA for shure).
during their mad race to a permament base on the moon, they'll be developing new technologies, and hopefully make space travel allot cheaper and affordable to move away from earth into the rest of the galaxy (one step at a time, but still beter than current lack of progress)
a little competition never hurt progress. it's how we got to the moon in the first place:p
do you see sombady who barely knows how to work with a computer go back and fix it?
some people want to be able to install a program and have it running imeadiatly, without having to go tru a bunch of code and changing it, just so they can use a program...
if you want to build somthing verry complicated that could cost several lifes if it failes and that requires knowledge of things you probably woulden't think about if you diden't first try it out, woulden't you want to build a scale moddel somwhere where it can't hurt to manny bystanders to test out the basics?
and it seems like the moon is the easiest scale moddel that is both relative easy to reach and that has both gravity and atmosphere(?) in a smaller scale than earth. and about bystanders, the only ones who can get hurt would be the people you take with you to construct the thing, and who would be aware of all posible dangers, and the moon inhabitants, all 0 of them...
if you want to test it before you built the real thing on earth, then the moon seems like the best testing ground... computers can test much, but they can't test things that their programmers aren't even aware of that it exsists (like unknown forces that could work on the elevator)
unless... you build the expencive elevator on the moon and start up a few mining/refining outposts with self suporting habitats. once those are working good, you can start working on space stations/ships/habitats for a cheaper price, since most of the materials don't need to go past earth's gravity well, only the main part of human labor would need to come from earth. the big and expencive part of the materials could be cheaply inported from the moon, and in a later stage, when space travel has inproved, you could get that stuff from the asteriod belts etc.
so even tho it might seem like a big and expencive thing to do, it might be verry usefull in the future.
unfortunatly, around here, there's a 10GB download limit/30days with about all providers (only know one who is semi-unlimited, but the speed is crap). so downloading as much as we can is not a option:'(
unless they teleport out again without moving, they will still need to move from where to teleported to where they are outside the scanned area... so if your motion detector works well, it will catch most teleports also (but not imeadiatly at the teleport)
if you know what the trash looks like on x-ray, then you could try searching for it... I think they are more interested in the rocks below the trash tho, so the camera's are probably designed to see that and not the surface (with the trash).
unlike in the 60s and 70s, they are using ion engines for this mission, which can run of solar power. they give less trust/second, but they can keep burning for allot longer, since the sun gives a constant supply of fuel (in the form of electricity from solar panels). so you've got a smaller probe, which means easier to get into orbit from where it can fly on it's own power, so even tho it takes longer to get where you want, it will be cheaper to get it into orbit.
btw, they are planning on bigger engines in the future, so hopefully they will go faster someday.
I'm guesing a linux/unix version would come after the max version. there's allot of flavors of linux/unix, so it might be handy if they have some experience from doing it good on other systems first.
that ~500m would be a one time investment tho, once you get the r&d, you can keep using it at the ~300m price, probably even less if you start bulk production.
I don't think they are talking about making the employee sue his employer for being fired, but for the insults that he recieved after he got fired, which would be out of line (they fired him already, no need to kick him when he's down already).
I was thinking in the same direction, why not just build several factory's up there that produce the stuff, with ships etc. moving the required materials to those factory's...
there are plans to give other planets a habitat, repairing the earths habitat would be a nice practice on a smaller, cheaper way...
ofcourse, you would still need allot of money to start it all up, money from all over the world... which is somthing that's probably harder than just setting up the factory etc.
how about covering the sensor with a cap, and pulling the space between the cap and the sensor near to vacuum?
when you launch, the vacuum sucks the cap onto the sencor, making shure that it stays there, and when the preshure outside of the cap equals the inside, the cap would not be held at it place anymore, and if you leave a bit of air in the vacuum space (very low preshure), then it would even blow of once you reached the full vacuum on space, leaving the sensor free for reentry...
just a gues... but coulden't it be that the space shuttle needs to be empty to land? the difference in weight could screw some stuff up, and since there are people onboard the shuttle, you don't want to screw up...
but ofcourse, they should still think of designing a shuttle type of spaceship that can take off loaded (with satelites, supply's etc.) and land loaded (with probes etc.)
haven't there been allot of similar websites before? I know of several that ask for a place to stay for the night (for people who travel around the world for example) and I think also several asking for donations against deseases... so not realy a new thing to use a website to get your request out to the world...
Slashdot Mirror
one hell of a good link.
I started reading, followed a few links to other of his posts and now I've got 9 tabs with articles open that I still want to read and I'm shure that there will be links to more stuff in there...
verry interesting stuff
I think they are proposing it this way simply becouse it woulden't require a solar farm + microwave cannon to be put in orbit where it's hard to do maintenance etc.
On earth, we already have power supply and easy, low cost acces.
basicaly, it's the difference between
1) shooting a cargo with fuel and a engine onboard to mars
2) shooting both the cargo and the engine into orbit, with a small extra load to gather fuel (solar farm)
3) shooting the cargo into orbit while the engine and fuel stays on earth.
option 3 seems to be the easiest to setup and might be cheaper depending on the price to get the engine ans solar farm into orbit for option 2.
then how are you gone decide who's dumb and who isn't?
is the guy that knows nothing of math a dumb person? even tho he can make a masterpiece out of a piece of wood in the back of his garage?
or is the person that get's a flat tire on the highway and doesen't know how to fix it dumb? Even tho he is the head of a research group at work?
etc.
As far as I know, there is no way to decide who's dumb and who's not, simply becouse allot of people tend to be intelegent in their own way, even tho it doesen't show right away and can't be tested by IQ tests.
btw, I to think that there are allot of dumb people out there. But I'm just saying that allot of those people that seem dumb aren't always dumb in the end.
what happend to the remaining 5% ?
funds that just disapeared?
some people consider the inhabitants of earth to be earth treathening. :D
so it would be a good thing...
I would call that a good thing...
:p
once china starts racing for a permament base on the moon, you'll have others following (USA for shure).
during their mad race to a permament base on the moon, they'll be developing new technologies, and hopefully make space travel allot cheaper and affordable to move away from earth into the rest of the galaxy (one step at a time, but still beter than current lack of progress)
a little competition never hurt progress.
it's how we got to the moon in the first place
do you see sombady who barely knows how to work with a computer go back and fix it?
some people want to be able to install a program and have it running imeadiatly, without having to go tru a bunch of code and changing it, just so they can use a program...
if you want to build somthing verry complicated that could cost several lifes if it failes and that requires knowledge of things you probably woulden't think about if you diden't first try it out, woulden't you want to build a scale moddel somwhere where it can't hurt to manny bystanders to test out the basics?
and it seems like the moon is the easiest scale moddel that is both relative easy to reach and that has both gravity and atmosphere(?) in a smaller scale than earth.
and about bystanders, the only ones who can get hurt would be the people you take with you to construct the thing, and who would be aware of all posible dangers, and the moon inhabitants, all 0 of them...
if you want to test it before you built the real thing on earth, then the moon seems like the best testing ground...
computers can test much, but they can't test things that their programmers aren't even aware of that it exsists (like unknown forces that could work on the elevator)
unless...
you build the expencive elevator on the moon and start up a few mining/refining outposts with self suporting habitats.
once those are working good, you can start working on space stations/ships/habitats for a cheaper price, since most of the materials don't need to go past earth's gravity well, only the main part of human labor would need to come from earth.
the big and expencive part of the materials could be cheaply inported from the moon, and in a later stage, when space travel has inproved, you could get that stuff from the asteriod belts etc.
so even tho it might seem like a big and expencive thing to do, it might be verry usefull in the future.
unfortunatly, around here, there's a 10GB download limit/30days with about all providers (only know one who is semi-unlimited, but the speed is crap). :'(
so downloading as much as we can is not a option
pritty funny :)
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but it seems like google started it several years ago.
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9911/15/search.
and
http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php
btw, it doesen't seem to work on google anymore...
unless they teleport out again without moving, they will still need to move from where to teleported to where they are outside the scanned area...
so if your motion detector works well, it will catch most teleports also (but not imeadiatly at the teleport)
if you know what the trash looks like on x-ray, then you could try searching for it... I think they are more interested in the rocks below the trash tho, so the camera's are probably designed to see that and not the surface (with the trash).
unlike in the 60s and 70s, they are using ion engines for this mission, which can run of solar power.
they give less trust/second, but they can keep burning for allot longer, since the sun gives a constant supply of fuel (in the form of electricity from solar panels).
so you've got a smaller probe, which means easier to get into orbit from where it can fly on it's own power, so even tho it takes longer to get where you want, it will be cheaper to get it into orbit.
btw, they are planning on bigger engines in the future, so hopefully they will go faster someday.
I'm guesing a linux/unix version would come after the max version.
there's allot of flavors of linux/unix, so it might be handy if they have some experience from doing it good on other systems first.
that ~500m would be a one time investment tho, once you get the r&d, you can keep using it at the ~300m price, probably even less if you start bulk production.
seems like they forgot the . in the ./ application :p
I gues there won't be pictures afterall...
I don't think they are talking about making the employee sue his employer for being fired, but for the insults that he recieved after he got fired, which would be out of line (they fired him already, no need to kick him when he's down already).
I was thinking in the same direction, why not just build several factory's up there that produce the stuff, with ships etc. moving the required materials to those factory's...
there are plans to give other planets a habitat, repairing the earths habitat would be a nice practice on a smaller, cheaper way...
ofcourse, you would still need allot of money to start it all up, money from all over the world... which is somthing that's probably harder than just setting up the factory etc.
"We're gonna take back the web. This is only the beginning"
* plays some matrix music *
eat or think about what you eat... :D
never both at the same time
how about covering the sensor with a cap, and pulling the space between the cap and the sensor near to vacuum?
when you launch, the vacuum sucks the cap onto the sencor, making shure that it stays there, and when the preshure outside of the cap equals the inside, the cap would not be held at it place anymore, and if you leave a bit of air in the vacuum space (very low preshure), then it would even blow of once you reached the full vacuum on space, leaving the sensor free for reentry...
just a gues... but coulden't it be that the space shuttle needs to be empty to land?
the difference in weight could screw some stuff up, and since there are people onboard the shuttle, you don't want to screw up...
but ofcourse, they should still think of designing a shuttle type of spaceship that can take off loaded (with satelites, supply's etc.) and land loaded (with probes etc.)
haven't there been allot of similar websites before?
I know of several that ask for a place to stay for the night (for people who travel around the world for example)
and I think also several asking for donations against deseases...
so not realy a new thing to use a website to get your request out to the world...