Have you actually listened to the song? It doesn't ridicule Canada, it clearly makes fun of parents who love to pass the buck on blame when it comes to their children's behavior.
Read the article. This process automatically creates the links if the bits are the same. Why does Slashdot feel the need to post a negative article about Microsoft without reading it first? witz
Um, I think you pretty much echoed my original thoughts:) No one is going to use the NT user database for authentication, they're going to use some type of CGI auth that hits another database. Not HTTP authentication.
Beginning with Windows 2000 a CAL is necessary for each individual requiring authentication, such as would be necessary for a secure online transaction. That sounds as if any user accessing IIS as an authenticated NT user requires a CAL. No big deal, this isn't going to affect e-commerce sites or any large website that authenticates. Almost all use their own user database, not NT's user database. This is just CNET blowing more smoke up everyone's ass. -witz
Sorry, forgot to respond to your first comment. Yes, I meant cylinders, my bad. It's still 1024. You may get it to work going beyond that, but MS isn't going to support that configuration and it can definitely lead to issues. Read: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q 114/8/41.asp
Whereas the Master Boot Record is generally operating system independent, the Boot Sector of the active partition is dependent on both the operating system and the file system. In the case of Windows NT and Windows NT Advanced Server, the Boot Sector is responsible for locating the executable file, NTLDR, which continues the boot process. The only disk services available to the Boot Sector code at this stage of system boot up are provided by the BIOS INT 13 interface. The Boot Sector code must be able to find NTLDR and file system data structures such as the root directory, the File Allocation Table (FAT) in the case of an MS-DOS FAT volume or the Master File Table in the case of an NTFS volume. These must be present within the area of the disk addressable by the 24-bit side, cylinder, sector structure used by the BIOS INT 13 interface and the partition table. This limits the size of the system partition to 7.8 gigabytes regardless of which file system is used.
Read the KB articles. The system partition (acc. to MS, this is actually the BOOT partition, the one where the bootloader files are located, not necessarily %systemroot%) is limited to 7.8gb.
Start up. Real mode portion of installation (if you boot to the CD). Reboot. Finish installation, set up networking, installed options, set password, etc. Reboot. Log in. That's right, you're at SP1 (NT CDs now ship as SP1), but you're logged in after 2 boots. Install SP5. Reboot. Now you're at SP5, and logged in, after 3 reboots. Not 5. Keep going, FUD-boy. Not to mention that you can install IE5, MDAC 2.1 and assorted software/hardware drivers in the same boot. So with an additional reboot, you could be at: NT 4.0, SP5, IE5, MDAC 2.1, and some 3rd party mailserver. -witz
BOOT/DOS partitions are limited to 7.8gb. NT Setup is limited to creating 4gb partitions because it's running in real mode and limited to 1024 sectors when it creates them. After NT is installed, you can create NTFS partitions with Disk Administrator up to 16 exabytes in size. That's right, 16 exabytes
it doesn't make decent-sized partitions WTF is that supposed to mean? You DO realize that NTFS partitions can be up to 2^64 bytes in size, right? You knew that, right? You also knew that NT has to have a boot partition within the first 1024 sectors, right? Yep, you knew all that. Keep talking like *you're* the expert on NT.
NT has to do the same checks when it thinks there might be an FS problem, its that or chance destroying your data. Not when it's NTFS, it doesn't...done on the fly, not on boot.
Exchange is definitely the culprit, I've seen this behavior on countless machines. Changing that registry entry should be an automatic procedure for anyone running Exchange, or any other large groupware application.
Exchange takes a long time to shut down, which is very similiar to the behavior of Notes (if Notes shuts down at ALL). You can simply make a registry change giving it X seconds to shut down instead of 5 minutes. Very simple.
Our Novell servers, especially the ones housing replicas of the NDS tree (we're talking 4.11 SP7), take up to 30 minutes to boot up. That's incredible.
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MS stole NDS for Win2k, eh? Last time "theft" didn't apply to a situation where the product was PAID FOR, moron.
BTW, go read this before spewing your FUD. Thanks.
Office now uses XML as a file format...oh wait, you knew that, didn't you? That wasn't a knee-jerk reaction at all.
witz
Have you actually listened to the song? It doesn't ridicule Canada, it clearly makes fun of parents who love to pass the buck on blame when it comes to their children's behavior.
Read the article, moron.
Read the article. This process automatically creates the links if the bits are the same. Why does Slashdot feel the need to post a negative article about Microsoft without reading it first? witz
Actually, in Win2k IE5, they look like superscript 1s as well...
That comment isn't funny, informative, insightful, or anything other than childish.
There were benchmarks done by PC Mag (I believe it was PC Mag) well after Mindcraft that not only did IIS vs Apache, but did Samba vs NT.
Hope this doesn't apply to Nextels, otherwise in a year or two I'll be more out of it than Ronald Reagan on morphine.
-witz
Um, I think you pretty much echoed my original thoughts :) No one is going to use the NT user database for authentication, they're going to use some type of CGI auth that hits another database. Not HTTP authentication.
Beginning with Windows 2000 a CAL is necessary for each individual requiring authentication, such as would be necessary for a secure online transaction.
That sounds as if any user accessing IIS as an authenticated NT user requires a CAL. No big deal, this isn't going to affect e-commerce sites or any large website that authenticates. Almost all use their own user database, not NT's user database.
This is just CNET blowing more smoke up everyone's ass.
-witz
Sorry, forgot to respond to your first comment.Q 114/8/41.asp
Yes, I meant cylinders, my bad. It's still 1024. You may get it to work going beyond that, but MS isn't going to support that configuration and it can definitely lead to issues.
Read: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/
Whereas the Master Boot Record is generally operating system independent, the Boot Sector of the active partition is dependent on both the operating system and the file system. In the case of Windows NT and Windows NT Advanced Server, the Boot Sector is responsible for locating the executable file, NTLDR, which continues the boot process. The only disk services available to the Boot Sector code at this stage of system boot up are provided by the BIOS INT 13 interface. The Boot Sector code must be able to find NTLDR and file system data structures such as the root directory, the File Allocation Table (FAT) in the case of an MS-DOS FAT volume or the Master File Table in the case of an NTFS volume. These must be present within the area of the disk addressable by the 24-bit side, cylinder, sector structure used by the BIOS INT 13 interface and the partition table. This limits the size of the system partition to 7.8 gigabytes regardless of which file system is used.
-witz
Read the KB articles. The system partition (acc. to MS, this is actually the BOOT partition, the one where the bootloader files are located, not necessarily %systemroot%) is limited to 7.8gb.
Start up.
Real mode portion of installation (if you boot to the CD).
Reboot.
Finish installation, set up networking, installed options, set password, etc.
Reboot.
Log in.
That's right, you're at SP1 (NT CDs now ship as SP1), but you're logged in after 2 boots.
Install SP5.
Reboot.
Now you're at SP5, and logged in, after 3 reboots.
Not 5.
Keep going, FUD-boy.
Not to mention that you can install IE5, MDAC 2.1 and assorted software/hardware drivers in the same boot. So with an additional reboot, you could be at:
NT 4.0, SP5, IE5, MDAC 2.1, and some 3rd party mailserver.
-witz
Get some new RAM.
Preferably ECC.
BOOT/DOS partitions are limited to 7.8gb. NT Setup is limited to creating 4gb partitions because it's running in real mode and limited to 1024 sectors when it creates them.
After NT is installed, you can create NTFS partitions with Disk Administrator up to 16 exabytes in size.
That's right, 16 exabytes
-witz
it doesn't make decent-sized partitions
WTF is that supposed to mean?
You DO realize that NTFS partitions can be up to 2^64 bytes in size, right? You knew that, right?
You also knew that NT has to have a boot partition within the first 1024 sectors, right?
Yep, you knew all that. Keep talking like *you're* the expert on NT.
NT has to do the same checks when it thinks there might be an FS problem, its that or chance destroying your data.
Not when it's NTFS, it doesn't...done on the fly, not on boot.
Exchange is definitely the culprit, I've seen this behavior on countless machines. Changing that registry entry should be an automatic procedure for anyone running Exchange, or any other large groupware application.
-witz
Exchange takes a long time to shut down, which is very similiar to the behavior of Notes (if Notes shuts down at ALL). You can simply make a registry change giving it X seconds to shut down instead of 5 minutes. Very simple.
-witz
Our Novell servers, especially the ones housing replicas of the NDS tree (we're talking 4.11 SP7), take up to 30 minutes to boot up. That's incredible.
Technically the MS "requirements" are 486dx66, 24mb of RAM. So don't blame them if it's shitty =]
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Not overkill when you commute 100 miles a day like me :) I've been waiting for this piece of hardware :)