Yeah be sure Fritz's party is in power. Then we can have DRM mandated. And who owns the patent on DRM operating systems? Microsoft.
This is the thing that terrifies me most about the current political climate. I believe the CPTBDA (or whatever the hell its called now) is the only way Linux (well Open Source at least) will lose out to Windows in the end.
In this case the political decisions AREN'T BINARY.
If the Bush administration failed in this area the Dem's would not necessarily succeed. In fact they could do something completely different, but just as bad as, or even worse than this.
I really wonder about this one. I believe the time is coming when MS's DRM software will begin deleting "unauthorized" files. When that happens the key question is will the sheep stampede, or will they just blindly go along with being corralled. It could be a giant win for Linux and Mac OSX, but it could also show that the unwashed masses just deserve what they get.
I keep waiting for consumers to revolt to poor quality, service and the general model of licensing ("non-ownership" of products), but things just keep getting worse. I'm not just talking about the software world here either.
Free Speech is free speech and censorship is censorship. It doesn't matter where you are.
Personaly, you may or may not agree with what America does, but examples like this show just how important the Founding Fathers concept of free speech is/was and how slippery a slope limiting that speech is. It is an essential element of personal freedom anywhere on the globe.
The chips it is embedded in will eventually be cheap enough in price to be used in embedded situations. Even wasting the clock cycles on determining that you're not running a DRM application could be key (probably not with the heart monitor, but with flight control definately).
The secret to all of this is that Intel will most likely have a way to completely and absolutely turn off DRM for the chip, because this really would be unworkable for embedded manufactures. Now the task would be for someone to find that capability and distribute it over the internet. This is highly likely to happen.
Is anyone else out there pissed at the fact that they will actually have to log on to the internet to even use their computer? I mean for broadband its ok, but there are a lot of dialup users out there, who don't need to log in right now to listen to music or to watch DVD's.
You would think the argument that many of our fancy military weapons might fail to work could be a pretty good one to use with all our "representatives".
Someday the movie studios will go into there vault to look at some of these movies and find only dust (or at least highly deteriorated negatives). Not letting some of these things in the public domain may be in the copyright holder's best interest. But there are some movies IMHO that I think will be destroyed and lost forever, but at least their copyright will be intact. Its pretty sad actaully. Sure some forgotten movie from the 40's might not be too bad, but what happens when its a classic that just got forgotten for too long. I remember the part on the Star Wars Special Edition where Lucas talks about how bad the original negatives of the film had gotten, and how suprised they were.
I'm happy that the Founding Fathers didn't follow the same reasoning, revolution is not mentioned on your list.
And I'm sorry if Linux players didn't pay a royalty. Actaully they (Xine in my case) did not do anything wrong, I had to take action to enable DeCSS myself, and this is precisely why Xine operates that way. One would think that if they wanted to, they could pay a royalty and offer a player capable of playing any encrypted DVD.
But again why should it be against the law to use my DVD's any way I see fit. I can modify my car any number of ways, and while it may void the warranty, it does not make the modifications themselves illegal.
Parents' basement would be appropriate if one of my children were watching the movie. Not everyone on/. is unmarried and living at home with their parents.
The DMCA is a bad law, and as citizens of this country we can choose to disobey bad laws.
That's really the definition of "Civil Disobedience".
I choose not to obey the DMCA every time I watch a DVD on my Linux machine at home. It takes a pretty shitty law to make watching a movie that I bought on my computer a crime. Its also a really pathetic act of civil disobedience, I mean come on I'm just watching a movie. Arresting people for doing this would be absolutely ridiculous.
These corporations that are pushing this crap better start watching themselves. In the war against the consumer the consumer is just beginning to understand how much control over what they buy that they are losing. If the restrictions being talked about for HDTV (copy bits and all that garbage) come to pass I think that will be the last straw.
But will you change your tune in the future when Microsoft shuts down all the Palladium mod chip manufacuters and you can no longer run Linux on a new PC.
Look at this current action by Microsoft. The XBox is the test system for a secure PC that only runs Microsoft code.
Palladium's only reason for existince (I believe) is to be used to prevent any OS (or application for that matter) to not run without Microsofts consent. It will undoubtedly be the most evil thing Microsoft will ever do and failure to respond to issues like this will only help them achieve there goals.
Tell everyone you know not to buy an XBox.
The real difference here between MS and the other console manufacturers is that Microsoft is hellbent on bringing this kind of crap to your PC. Palladium must fail.
Too bad the law won't pass until Congress is in session again next year. Let's just hope that the Democrats win a majority again this year -- they've been much more sensitive to technology issues than the Republicans.
A Democrat majority will protect your rights no better than a Republican majority.
Specific members of congress need to be sent packing, regardless of their party affiliation.
Fritz has got to go and so does Berman, and they're both Democrats. But they are undoubtedly out to destroy the rights of consumers.
Thinking one party or another will stop these bills is a terribly misguided partisan view.
When your arguing for your digital rights don't think that cheering for the Democrats or the Republicans will help you. You're just being biased, you're not actually showing any concern for your digital rights.
No, you'd need permission from the Justice Department. But, and I hadn't thought of this before, what about people who spoof IP addresses that the RIAA is using for attacks and attack others with them. That would have the potential to cause serious mayhem.
Not that I'm suggesting anyone should actually do that;-).
No they won't. They will do just as well to close the factories that make them. These "new" devices would be crap, and the consumers will know it.
Note to the RIAA: I will never buy another CD again (and not just because the current music you are trying to sell is crap), and it doesn't matter whether P2P exists or not. All the members of the RIAA (including Sony) deserve to go out of business because of their total disrespect for their customers.
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Just wait until 60 days before the next election.
What happens then if the CBDTPA comes up for debate then?
It doesn't matter how much money the EFF has, they won't be able to run an issue ad.
Complain all you want about laws that limit code as speech, but don't stand and cheer laws that limit speech as speech.
Yeah be sure Fritz's party is in power. Then we can have DRM mandated. And who owns the patent on DRM operating systems? Microsoft.
This is the thing that terrifies me most about the current political climate. I believe the CPTBDA (or whatever the hell its called now) is the only way Linux (well Open Source at least) will lose out to Windows in the end.
In this case the political decisions AREN'T
BINARY.
If the Bush administration failed in this area the Dem's would not necessarily succeed. In fact they could do something completely different, but just as bad as, or even worse than this.
I really wonder about this one. I believe the time is coming when MS's DRM software will begin deleting "unauthorized" files. When that happens the key question is will the sheep stampede, or will they just blindly go along with being corralled. It could be a giant win for Linux and Mac OSX, but it could also show that the unwashed masses just deserve what they get.
I keep waiting for consumers to revolt to poor quality, service and the general model of licensing ("non-ownership" of products), but things just keep getting worse. I'm not just talking about the software world here either.
You realize of course that you are trying to justify censonship with statistics.
Think about that, doesn't that bother 64% of you?
Free Speech is free speech and censorship is censorship. It doesn't matter where you are.
Personaly, you may or may not agree with what America does, but examples like this show just how important the Founding Fathers concept of free speech is/was and how slippery a slope limiting that speech is. It is an essential element of personal freedom anywhere on the globe.
you mean rm -rf .* is a command that would be used normally? ;-)
The chips it is embedded in will eventually be cheap enough in price to be used in embedded situations. Even wasting the clock cycles on determining that you're not running a DRM application could be key (probably not with the heart monitor, but with flight control definately).
The secret to all of this is that Intel will most likely have a way to completely and absolutely turn off DRM for the chip, because this really would be unworkable for embedded manufactures. Now the task would be for someone to find that capability and distribute it over the internet. This is highly likely to happen.
Is anyone else out there pissed at the fact that they will actually have to log on to the internet to even use their computer? I mean for broadband its ok, but there are a lot of dialup users out there, who don't need to log in right now to listen to music or to watch DVD's.
You would think the argument that many of our fancy military weapons might fail to work could be a pretty good one to use with all our "representatives".
Ok, now they only come in platinum and white. ;-)
Someday the movie studios will go into there vault to look at some of these movies and find only dust (or at least highly deteriorated negatives).
Not letting some of these things in the public domain may be in the copyright holder's best interest. But there are some movies IMHO that I think will be destroyed and lost forever, but at least their copyright will be intact. Its pretty sad actaully. Sure some forgotten movie from the 40's might not be too bad, but what happens when its a classic that just got forgotten for too long. I remember the part on the Star Wars Special Edition where Lucas talks about how bad the original negatives of the film had gotten, and how suprised they were.
or General Electric, or Bell Telephone....
I'm happy that the Founding Fathers didn't follow the same reasoning, revolution is not mentioned on your list.
And I'm sorry if Linux players didn't pay a royalty. Actaully they (Xine in my case) did not do anything wrong, I had to take action to enable DeCSS myself, and this is precisely why Xine operates that way. One would think that if they wanted to, they could pay a royalty and offer a player capable of playing any encrypted DVD.
But again why should it be against the law to use my DVD's any way I see fit. I can modify my car any number of ways, and while it may void the warranty, it does not make the modifications themselves illegal.
Parents' basement would be appropriate if one of my children were watching the movie. Not everyone on /. is unmarried and living at home with their parents.
By definition planets orbit the Sun, thus Jupiter's moons are not planets as they orbit Jupiter.
The DMCA is a bad law, and as citizens of this country we can choose to disobey bad laws.
That's really the definition of "Civil Disobedience".
I choose not to obey the DMCA every time I watch a DVD on my Linux machine at home. It takes a pretty shitty law to make watching a movie that I bought on my computer a crime. Its also a really pathetic act of civil disobedience, I mean come on I'm just watching a movie. Arresting people for doing this would be absolutely ridiculous.
These corporations that are pushing this crap better start watching themselves. In the war against the consumer the consumer is just beginning to understand how much control over what they buy that they are losing. If the restrictions being talked about for HDTV (copy bits and all that garbage) come to pass I think that will be the last straw.
Katzian ..... great term, I like it.
But will you change your tune in the future when Microsoft shuts down all the Palladium mod chip manufacuters and you can no longer run Linux on a new PC.
Look at this current action by Microsoft. The XBox is the test system for a secure PC that only runs Microsoft code.
Palladium's only reason for existince (I believe) is to be used to prevent any OS (or application for that matter) to not run without Microsofts consent. It will undoubtedly be the most evil thing Microsoft will ever do and failure to respond to issues like this will only help them achieve there goals.
Tell everyone you know not to buy an XBox.
The real difference here between MS and the other console manufacturers is that Microsoft is hellbent on bringing this kind of crap to your PC. Palladium must fail.
I'm just a bill yes I'm only a bill and I'm sittin ' here on capitol hill.....
Ok, everyone go out and buy the "Schoolhouse Rock DVD"... Wait that's being sold by Disney, aaaarrrrggghhhh, what a dillema.
Too bad the law won't pass until Congress is in session again next year. Let's just hope that the Democrats win a majority again this year -- they've been much more sensitive to technology issues than the Republicans.
A Democrat majority will protect your rights no better than a Republican majority.
Specific members of congress need to be sent packing, regardless of their party affiliation.
Fritz has got to go and so does Berman, and they're both Democrats. But they are undoubtedly out to destroy the rights of consumers.
Thinking one party or another will stop these bills is a terribly misguided partisan view.
When your arguing for your digital rights don't think that cheering for the Democrats or the Republicans will help you. You're just being biased, you're not actually showing any concern for your digital rights.
Thank you, that is much more consice.
Actually, I think this hit list is totally stupid. Half the things on that list wouldn't fall under the law.
Yep, that what the Greeks said when they banned Internet Gambling, or was that gaming?
Never understimate the "law" of unintended consequences.
That could have been said simpler:
I'm going to do an auction and use the computer for bidding and exchanging the money between the seller and buyer.
Dammit, BUSINESS METHODS THAT CAN BE MOVED TO THE COMPUTER SHOULD NOT BE PATENTABLE!!!
No, you'd need permission from the Justice Department. But, and I hadn't thought of this before, what about people who spoof IP addresses that the RIAA is using for attacks and attack others with them. That would have the potential to cause serious mayhem.
;-).
Not that I'm suggesting anyone should actually do that
I wonder of Sony will level a DOS attack on itself then??
That would be cool.
No they won't. They will do just as well to close the factories that make them. These "new" devices would be crap, and the consumers will know it.
Note to the RIAA: I will never buy another CD again (and not just because the current music you are trying to sell is crap), and it doesn't matter whether P2P exists or not. All the members of the RIAA (including Sony) deserve to go out of business because of their total disrespect for their customers.