I really don't see a problem with making prisoners work, as long as they aren't pushed beyond reasonable hours. They're being fed and housed, and usually given access to television and a small library. Making them do something in return is generally seen as part of the rehabilitation process.
"If you are using a third party client, either its licensed and then it has the same conditions."
Gaim "is not endorsed by or affiliated with" AOL, according to their site, and they're legal. Though I guess AOL may try to change that in the near future...
"To give two examples, from what I understand, it's common for inmates in the USA to a) be forced to work and b) lose their right to vote; this may or may not seem acceptable to any US-american, but the fact remains that similar treatment would not be legal in other states."
I don't think the DoD member should be extradited, and the rest of your post makes sense, but this part confused me a bit. In what nation are inmates not expected to work...?
"Turns out, within a few months of us putting out the crack, almost all sales dried up. He went bankrupt because he had only been doing this one thing because it looked like no one else was in the game. This was one of the turning points for me in realizing this 'copyright infringement' actually had a cost. I was part of something that cost this guy his livelyhood and his marriage. Oh no, it wasn't theft on my part, I only copyinfringed the suckatude on his f'n life."
If he had enough know-how to write the program and protect it so well, he had the ability to do other things to get income, too. Putting all of your eggs in one basket is stupid...Refusing to get another basket of eggs when it's well within your power is even dumber.
A much more likely story is that his app died because someone DID put out a better version (and one cheaper than $200 for a frickin' RENT MANAGEMENT application), and you just made yourself a good target for him to blame.
Being a proponent of intelligent design, I thank the Creator for initializing the series of events that made it possible for the human race to form and spawn Linus Torvalds, so that he was able to create the Linux kernel.:D
Unfortunately, you have to hope that those "millions" haven't forgotten this and moved on to something else in three years if they don't see immediate results in their favor. Once the corporatists have the upper hand, they just have to hold out long enough for someone to wave some other distraction in the public's face.
How's that "Flamebait"? He said...something involving beverages, then used hyberbole to point out a reason to avoid software patents. Namely, that software patents often end up being given for trivial or obvious ideas, and prevent anyone else from expanding from those ideas. There's nothing offensive at all in the post.
...When TVs are becoming replaced by computers as a method of visual communication. It's far easier to live without a TV than a computer now, and they know that. So much for the people protesting the tax by not using a TV, if this goes through.
Rather, you shouldn't be allowed to run it without someone who knows what you're doing standing behind you. Letting a customer use it to test drivers, but someone should make sure an immature jackass isn't using it as a chance to cause havoc.
Hm...I should bring one of my LiveCDs into the computer lab here as an experiment. Then again, considering one guy ended up with police on his doorstep because his use of lynx scared a librarian...
Actually, spyware and popups have started to get by Mozilla/Firefox and the other F/OSS browsers so vaunted for their security recently...I blinked today when I got my first unwanted popup on my FreeBSD box, and my XP partition occasionally picks up crap even though I use Firefox instead of IE.
It's nowhere near as bad as most of the computers of those who use IE, but it does exist.
Dude, take a prozac. It's a joke about Stallman dressing up in a costume...He doesn't really think he's a saint, and no one else (or very, very few) other people do.
And it's not like every person that uses something other than Windows has a personal vendetta against Bill Gates.
"Kind of offtopic, but I found it amusing that in April of 2004, this movie [imdb.com] had the most illegal downloads. No irony there for sure."
It's only ironic if you think swapping it is a sin...Otherwise it's just spreading the Word. It'd be amusing if the MPAA sued or prosecuted someone for distributing it...They'd lose what support they have.
"The bottom line is that after sixth grade, there should be three options:
1. Smart kids do a college prep track 2. Dumb kids do a vocational track 3. Troublemakers go to reform school"
HALLELUJAH. It's hard to get anything done when the teachers have to constantly deal with delinquents. My high school even allowed kids with mental problems that made them aggressive to go to high school normally...One class had to be evacuated when a kid literally threw his desk at the teacher. Fights would also break out fairly often...Though luckily this was usually when both participants were willing. People usually didn't just get attacked.
You can't make anything with rotten wood except fertilizer.
My high school just didn't offer any kind of preparation for college-level courses, especially in the math department. The only computer course it had was basically Microsoft Office 101. We didn't even have basic calculus.
Heh, I "feel your pain" here. While mine was better as far as math goes (if a student was ready for calculus, they'd make special arrangements for that student to take it), our computer classes were a joke. There were three of them: Basic Computer (Keyboarding and MS Office), Advanced Computer (More MS Office), and Web Design (HTML). I took the first one to improve my speed. When they tried to enroll me in the second one, I opted to take third year French instead. I haven't seen an Office program that a bright person with a bit of computer experience couldn't figure out in under an hour...
What made that sadder was the fact that my MIDDLE school technology class included QBASIC and a bit of C programming...as well as some time on the teacher's two Linux machines. He covered far more material with a fraction of the funding...Shoot, most of the classroom's boxes last time I visited (2003 or 2004) were 3 or 486s, with a few old Pentiums mixed in.
less: (nonstandard in some uses but often idiomatic with measure phrases) fewer; "less than three weeks"; "no less than 50 people attended"; "in 25 words or less"
fewer: (comparative of `few' used with count nouns) quantifier meaning a smaller number of;
Both can be used. Bitch at someone using the wrong "you're"; you'll be more useful to humanity that way.
I buy/rent VHS whenever it's available for that very reason. I really DON'T care about the increased quality...Unless the image is noticably fucked, it looks realistic enough for me. I could care less about the documentary stuff in the DVDs as well. Until cassette tapes became very hard to find, I used them instead of CDs.
I'm not a technophobe (obviously, since I'm posting HERE), but some things just don't seem to be worth it...Like monitors that cost over a hundred bucks that show about the same thing I see on my $20 CRT. I'm willing to pay much more for a faster computer or internet connection, but not for a slightly better screen resolution or a thinner monitor.
Of course, I realize that I'm not a major part of consumer culture, especially since I stay on the fringes of it.
"But what about all of these software licenses that people on Slashdot are so high and mighty about? If someone grabbed some open source code, didn't bother to follow the license instructions, told the original writers to fuck off, and argued that they (the original writers) were no worse off, Slashdotters would be screaming bloody murder."
I generally view the licenses for open source software simply as something that's necessary in order to make OS software an effective weapon against proprietary software. If proprietary software wasn't the norm, the OS licenses would no longer be needed. I'm not meaning to nitpick, just pointing out that the indignation of Slashdotters in the case would be for a very different reason than the indignation shown by the *AA's.
There's also another factor that would be involved in such a case: the infringers would not only be violating a license, but falsely claiming that they were its inventors. That would make it a greater crime by both legal and moral standards (I have no sympathy for those who do this, be it text, music, physical inventions, or software involved).
Yes. Many old-line conservatives are proponents of a small federal government, and are disgusted by things like this. Even Bob Barr got so fed up with Bush that he voted Libertarian in 2004.
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I really don't see a problem with making prisoners work, as long as they aren't pushed beyond reasonable hours. They're being fed and housed, and usually given access to television and a small library. Making them do something in return is generally seen as part of the rehabilitation process.
"If you are using a third party client, either its licensed and then it has the same conditions."
Gaim "is not endorsed by or affiliated with" AOL, according to their site, and they're legal. Though I guess AOL may try to change that in the near future...
"To give two examples, from what I understand, it's common for inmates in the USA to a) be forced to work and b) lose their right to vote; this may or may not seem acceptable to any US-american, but the fact remains that similar treatment would not be legal in other states."
I don't think the DoD member should be extradited, and the rest of your post makes sense, but this part confused me a bit. In what nation are inmates not expected to work...?
"Turns out, within a few months of us putting out the crack, almost all sales dried up. He went bankrupt because he had only been doing this one thing because it looked like no one else was in the game. This was one of the turning points for me in realizing this 'copyright infringement' actually had a cost. I was part of something that cost this guy his livelyhood and his marriage. Oh no, it wasn't theft on my part, I only copyinfringed the suckatude on his f'n life."
If he had enough know-how to write the program and protect it so well, he had the ability to do other things to get income, too. Putting all of your eggs in one basket is stupid...Refusing to get another basket of eggs when it's well within your power is even dumber.
A much more likely story is that his app died because someone DID put out a better version (and one cheaper than $200 for a frickin' RENT MANAGEMENT application), and you just made yourself a good target for him to blame.
Being a proponent of intelligent design, I thank the Creator for initializing the series of events that made it possible for the human race to form and spawn Linus Torvalds, so that he was able to create the Linux kernel. :D
Unfortunately, you have to hope that those "millions" haven't forgotten this and moved on to something else in three years if they don't see immediate results in their favor. Once the corporatists have the upper hand, they just have to hold out long enough for someone to wave some other distraction in the public's face.
How's that "Flamebait"? He said...something involving beverages, then used hyberbole to point out a reason to avoid software patents. Namely, that software patents often end up being given for trivial or obvious ideas, and prevent anyone else from expanding from those ideas. There's nothing offensive at all in the post.
...When TVs are becoming replaced by computers as a method of visual communication. It's far easier to live without a TV than a computer now, and they know that. So much for the people protesting the tax by not using a TV, if this goes through.
Rather, you shouldn't be allowed to run it without someone who knows what you're doing standing behind you. Letting a customer use it to test drivers, but someone should make sure an immature jackass isn't using it as a chance to cause havoc.
Hm...I should bring one of my LiveCDs into the computer lab here as an experiment. Then again, considering one guy ended up with police on his doorstep because his use of lynx scared a librarian...
Actually, spyware and popups have started to get by Mozilla/Firefox and the other F/OSS browsers so vaunted for their security recently...I blinked today when I got my first unwanted popup on my FreeBSD box, and my XP partition occasionally picks up crap even though I use Firefox instead of IE.
It's nowhere near as bad as most of the computers of those who use IE, but it does exist.
Dude, take a prozac. It's a joke about Stallman dressing up in a costume...He doesn't really think he's a saint, and no one else (or very, very few) other people do.
And it's not like every person that uses something other than Windows has a personal vendetta against Bill Gates.
"Kind of offtopic, but I found it amusing that in April of 2004, this movie [imdb.com] had the most illegal downloads. No irony there for sure."
It's only ironic if you think swapping it is a sin...Otherwise it's just spreading the Word. It'd be amusing if the MPAA sued or prosecuted someone for distributing it...They'd lose what support they have.
But Stallman's already a saint...
"The bottom line is that after sixth grade, there should be three options:
1. Smart kids do a college prep track
2. Dumb kids do a vocational track
3. Troublemakers go to reform school"
HALLELUJAH. It's hard to get anything done when the teachers have to constantly deal with delinquents. My high school even allowed kids with mental problems that made them aggressive to go to high school normally...One class had to be evacuated when a kid literally threw his desk at the teacher. Fights would also break out fairly often...Though luckily this was usually when both participants were willing. People usually didn't just get attacked.
You can't make anything with rotten wood except fertilizer.
Quick define search on Google:
less: (nonstandard in some uses but often idiomatic with measure phrases) fewer; "less than three weeks"; "no less than 50 people attended"; "in 25 words or less"
fewer: (comparative of `few' used with count nouns) quantifier meaning a smaller number of;
Both can be used. Bitch at someone using the wrong "you're"; you'll be more useful to humanity that way.
I just went there. http://www.search.computerjobs.com/job_results.asp x?searchid=77869142&scope=results&s_kw=windows&sit eid=139&s_jcid=&x=0&y=0
Less than 200.
Well...If it was a male-Dom, fem-sub couple it'd pass my Christianity test. Moses and Jesus didn't say anything about kinky! XD
I buy/rent VHS whenever it's available for that very reason. I really DON'T care about the increased quality...Unless the image is noticably fucked, it looks realistic enough for me. I could care less about the documentary stuff in the DVDs as well. Until cassette tapes became very hard to find, I used them instead of CDs.
I'm not a technophobe (obviously, since I'm posting HERE), but some things just don't seem to be worth it...Like monitors that cost over a hundred bucks that show about the same thing I see on my $20 CRT. I'm willing to pay much more for a faster computer or internet connection, but not for a slightly better screen resolution or a thinner monitor.
Of course, I realize that I'm not a major part of consumer culture, especially since I stay on the fringes of it.
"But what about all of these software licenses that people on Slashdot are so high and mighty about? If someone grabbed some open source code, didn't bother to follow the license instructions, told the original writers to fuck off, and argued that they (the original writers) were no worse off, Slashdotters would be screaming bloody murder."
I generally view the licenses for open source software simply as something that's necessary in order to make OS software an effective weapon against proprietary software. If proprietary software wasn't the norm, the OS licenses would no longer be needed. I'm not meaning to nitpick, just pointing out that the indignation of Slashdotters in the case would be for a very different reason than the indignation shown by the *AA's.
There's also another factor that would be involved in such a case: the infringers would not only be violating a license, but falsely claiming that they were its inventors. That would make it a greater crime by both legal and moral standards (I have no sympathy for those who do this, be it text, music, physical inventions, or software involved).
Yes. Many old-line conservatives are proponents of a small federal government, and are disgusted by things like this. Even Bob Barr got so fed up with Bush that he voted Libertarian in 2004.
I've actually used playing that .ogg as a threat to get kids to be quiet.
It's the same way over here in the United States; he was just being a smartass.
I did. :D
"Chairface writes his name on the Moon", from The Tick
I remember watching those when I was six...