to install debian than to type in the windoze license key.
I was curious about this statement so I decided to test it. The MS license key on my laptop is 25 characters in length. Here are the keypresses I made to install Debian Etch:
Enter at the boot menu
Enter for the language
Enter for the country
Enter for the keymap
Enter to accept the default hostname
Enter to accept the default domain name
Enter to use guided partitioning
Enter to select the hard drive to partition
Enter to accept "All files in one partition"
Enter to accept "Finish partitioning"
Left arrow to select "yes" for "Write changes to disk"
Enter to accept "write changes to disk"
Enter to select the default (Eastern) time zone.
Enter one character for the root password
Enter to submit the root password
Enter one character to verify the root password
Enter to submit the verification for the root password
Enter to skip full name for new user
Enter one character for new account username
Enter to submit new account username
Enter one character for the user's password
Enter to submit the user's password
Enter one character to verify the user's password
Enter to submit the verification for the user's password
Right arrow to select "no" for "use a network mirror"
Enter to submit "no" for "use a network mirror"
Enter to submit "no" for "Participate in the package usage survey"
Tab to select "continue" on the software selection screen
Enter to submit "continue" on the software selection screen
Tab to select "continue" on the video selection screen
Enter to submit "continue" on the video selection screen
Enter to install grub to the master boot record
Enter to complete install and reboot the machine
As you can see your statement is not correct. It takes more keystrokes to install Debian than it does to enter the MS license key. In fact, a user is likely to use even more keystrokes since they'll probably want to set the appropriate timezone and keymap, use more than a one character root password, user name, and user password, use a network mirror, etc.
Your reply indicates an attitude of... "Doing SOMETHING is better than nothing!"
That's somewhat true. You have to form a hypothesis and see where it leads if you are going to solve a problem. I doubt that anyone is going to come out of the woodwork and say "I have the solution" and be correct. We have to try many different things to see what works and what doesn't. Dismissing things out of hand isn't going to help find a solution to the spam problem.
I wish moderators would start modding posts with this form as a troll. Spam is a big problem for both service providers and individuals. Many people have been working hard on ideas to help fight spam while keeping the backward compatibility of the SMTP protocol. The linked article is attempting to offer something and see where it leads. You, on the other hand, have contributed nothing except a worn out joke. You can't even be bothered to create your post's content, opting instead to use a form. What exactly are you contributing to this discussion? What value or insight does your post offer that warrants a +5 score? At least the author of the paper is making a genuine effort to help.
It annoys me with someone finds something that nobody knows about then acts like you are "living under a rock" because you don't seek out as much obscure crap as they do. It's ridiculous to think that even people who spend a *LOT* of time behind their computer would be familiar with some obscure video on YouTube. So we have a video of someone mindlessly yapping away at their camera. Big deal. Youtube is a vast sea of millions of people mindlessly yapping away at cameras. Yet, somehow, the AC thinks you must be living under a rock if you haven't seen this one yapping face out of millions of yapping faces. If you surf the net *so* much that you know what this video is and can recognize it then you are either in the AC's circle of friends or you really need to get away from the computer for the benefit of your health.
Here's hoping. Frequent restarts of things on my computer make me furious. I can't imagine why anyone would tolerate such things.
Nobody forces you to use Firefox. You can use Opera, Konqueror, links or IE, or any other browser out there...
While that is true, those other browsers either don't have the extensibility of Firefox or don't have the same variety of add-ons. For some people Firefox has become the new operating system (this is how I look at Firefox) and what OS it runs on is largely now irrelevant. Switching to another browser isn't feasible as the add-ons that they need might not be there. I realized this when, as a long-time desktop Windows user, I have recently started making the switch to Ubuntu Linux. I realized that I spent at least 99% of my time using my web browser so it doesn't matter which OS I used. Firefox has become my OS in a way.
For people who think like me the following is true:
Firefox = operating system
Add-ons = applications
Given that, would you be happy if you had to restart your OS once a day because of poor memory management?
I don't think it would be a problem for Apple... in fact it might be the best opportunity for apple to sell OSX on beige box PCs.
They already tried that. Remember how the Mac clone makers, such as Power Computing, we so successful that they pulled the plug and screwed the clone makers?
What's he's trying to say is the old maxim that if you want someone's help, make it as easy as possible for them to help you. Eliminate barriers to entry and you'll get more people willing to assist. What I'm surprised that you didn't say is that for something like this, some barriers to entry must be created to weed out the trolls and jerks that would cause problems. The login, and associated CAPTCHA, do that.
You can very easily get your IP address banned if some Wikinazi disagrees with your opinion, no matter who knowledgeable or correct your opinion is.
That's your problem right there. Wikipedia isn't the place for opinions. It's a place for facts. If you make a factual edit and back it up with a proper citation then there's no problem.
It'll make it easier to slip in a $1 charge here and a 25 cent charge there. Few people read those bills and making them longer and filled with useless data like this will make it harder to find the signal in the noise.
You've never been able to download a new version of IIS for any version of Windows, what's more IIS7 relies heavily on Longhorn features that just aren't present in earlier versions.
Of course you knew this already, I'm sure... and you just wanted to be disingenuous.
I didn't know that and I'm not being disingenuous. Please assume good faith. I'm not very experienced with MS's web technologies and had not even heard of IIS7 until this article was posted. Most of my experience is using Linux in a server capacity and writing PHP, Perl, and Java code. I'm seeing a shift in the demand for web services at work, particularly now that my company is rolling out SharePoint 2007. I'm struggling to gain focus on the MS web technologies and how they all fit together. Up until this point I've used Apache on my linux server and Resin on my windows machines. I'd like to work with whatever tools MS has just to make my life easy. I can download IE7 for Windows XP. Is it so unusual that I might expect that the web server of the same version might also be available for XP?
If IIS7 is only available on Vista then this seems like MS is shooting themselves in the foot. I have a Windows 2000 Pro and Windows XP Pro development environment. I'm unwilling to upgrade my operating system just to run a service that listens on port 80. For the standpoint of a potential customer, there a huge cost in planning and executing the upgrade, including the reinstallation and reconfiguration of all of the software that's currently installed on those systems. There is also a cost in retraining support staff to learn the differences and quirks of administrating a new OS. That's a heavy price to pay if one needs or wants the features that IIS7 offers.
It saddens me to see this, as it means that clients might eventually become less compatible with closed-source revisions of the protocol, and we'll lose some great file-sharing software.
I imagine that the "official" client will become less compatible and will become irrelevant as it deviates from the de facto standard established by the existing clients.
Bear in mind also the expectations that most IT people work in. You are expected to put in ridiculous amounts of hours, sometimes be on call 24/7, all for pay that's in many cases only somewhat better than that of a janitor.
I've working in IT for almost 18 years and I've never held a job like you describe. I've often had this conversation with my friends who work in IT and they've never experienced this either. I expect that it depends on the company you work for and what your role is. Have I had to go into work in the middle of the night? Sure, but I've had to do that only two or three times in my career.
I'm not interested, and don't want, Windows Server 2008. I'm only interested in II7. So my question remains, where do I download II7 for Windows XP and 2000?
I know it's all trendy to hate Microsoft and all, but honestly, have you looked at IIS lately? Especially IIS7?
I hadn't heard of IIS7 so I tried to find a download. From what I can tell you can't download it by itself as it comes bundled with an entire operating system. Do you know where I can download a copy that runs on Windows 2000 or XP?
I have a feeling that if you tried to argue that there was some difference between a web auction and a traditional auction in a US court, you'd get pretty much the same result this guy did.
I don't know about that. In the US you can take a many-decades-old process and then patent it just because you are now doing it "online". Some court might decide that an online sale is different because it happened via a web browser.
You keep saying that you're scanning the pages and not reading them. Maybe that's your problem. Slow down and read every word and every sentence. If you quickly try to skip forward you might miss the words and sentences that make the story what it is.
Nothing has been spoiled for me. I don't believe I intimated that anything had. In fact, I can't wait. I was merely expressing some frustration with certain people feeling the NEED to spoil anything, in any way, for someone else.
I guess I don't understand how your comment is on-topic then. No one is spoiling anything for anyone here. No one is forcing anyone to read the book early.
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- Enter at the boot menu
- Enter for the language
- Enter for the country
- Enter for the keymap
- Enter to accept the default hostname
- Enter to accept the default domain name
- Enter to use guided partitioning
- Enter to select the hard drive to partition
- Enter to accept "All files in one partition"
- Enter to accept "Finish partitioning"
- Left arrow to select "yes" for "Write changes to disk"
- Enter to accept "write changes to disk"
- Enter to select the default (Eastern) time zone.
- Enter one character for the root password
- Enter to submit the root password
- Enter one character to verify the root password
- Enter to submit the verification for the root password
- Enter to skip full name for new user
- Enter one character for new account username
- Enter to submit new account username
- Enter one character for the user's password
- Enter to submit the user's password
- Enter one character to verify the user's password
- Enter to submit the verification for the user's password
- Right arrow to select "no" for "use a network mirror"
- Enter to submit "no" for "use a network mirror"
- Enter to submit "no" for "Participate in the package usage survey"
- Tab to select "continue" on the software selection screen
- Enter to submit "continue" on the software selection screen
- Tab to select "continue" on the video selection screen
- Enter to submit "continue" on the video selection screen
- Enter to install grub to the master boot record
- Enter to complete install and reboot the machine
As you can see your statement is not correct. It takes more keystrokes to install Debian than it does to enter the MS license key. In fact, a user is likely to use even more keystrokes since they'll probably want to set the appropriate timezone and keymap, use more than a one character root password, user name, and user password, use a network mirror, etc.I wish moderators would start modding posts with this form as a troll. Spam is a big problem for both service providers and individuals. Many people have been working hard on ideas to help fight spam while keeping the backward compatibility of the SMTP protocol. The linked article is attempting to offer something and see where it leads. You, on the other hand, have contributed nothing except a worn out joke. You can't even be bothered to create your post's content, opting instead to use a form. What exactly are you contributing to this discussion? What value or insight does your post offer that warrants a +5 score? At least the author of the paper is making a genuine effort to help.
It annoys me with someone finds something that nobody knows about then acts like you are "living under a rock" because you don't seek out as much obscure crap as they do. It's ridiculous to think that even people who spend a *LOT* of time behind their computer would be familiar with some obscure video on YouTube. So we have a video of someone mindlessly yapping away at their camera. Big deal. Youtube is a vast sea of millions of people mindlessly yapping away at cameras. Yet, somehow, the AC thinks you must be living under a rock if you haven't seen this one yapping face out of millions of yapping faces. If you surf the net *so* much that you know what this video is and can recognize it then you are either in the AC's circle of friends or you really need to get away from the computer for the benefit of your health.
For people who think like me the following is true:
- Firefox = operating system
- Add-ons = applications
Given that, would you be happy if you had to restart your OS once a day because of poor memory management?I'm waiting on Intel to take me to Funkytown.
6. It better not move or animate in any way. Static pictures only.
What's he's trying to say is the old maxim that if you want someone's help, make it as easy as possible for them to help you. Eliminate barriers to entry and you'll get more people willing to assist. What I'm surprised that you didn't say is that for something like this, some barriers to entry must be created to weed out the trolls and jerks that would cause problems. The login, and associated CAPTCHA, do that.
It'll make it easier to slip in a $1 charge here and a 25 cent charge there. Few people read those bills and making them longer and filled with useless data like this will make it harder to find the signal in the noise.
If IIS7 is only available on Vista then this seems like MS is shooting themselves in the foot. I have a Windows 2000 Pro and Windows XP Pro development environment. I'm unwilling to upgrade my operating system just to run a service that listens on port 80. For the standpoint of a potential customer, there a huge cost in planning and executing the upgrade, including the reinstallation and reconfiguration of all of the software that's currently installed on those systems. There is also a cost in retraining support staff to learn the differences and quirks of administrating a new OS. That's a heavy price to pay if one needs or wants the features that IIS7 offers.
I'm not interested, and don't want, Windows Server 2008. I'm only interested in II7. So my question remains, where do I download II7 for Windows XP and 2000?
I would but I already stopped going years ago when the theaters started showing advertisements before the previews and the movie itself.
You keep saying that you're scanning the pages and not reading them. Maybe that's your problem. Slow down and read every word and every sentence. If you quickly try to skip forward you might miss the words and sentences that make the story what it is.