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so if I homebrew my G1 to a custom firmware I won't be able to download the protected apps nor the actual app store apps, or only the protected ones? I was confused by the formatting of your response as to if you were saying I couldn't do either or the other comment afterwards.
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Can you clarify by what you mean by copy protected? Do you mean I can't redownload apps I bought or you can't even buy apps on the unlocked phone?
subscriptions are intangible, are they going to prevent retailers from selling those too? FTA: "prepaid cards of cyber-games"....so they're not going to let people buy world of warcraft subscriptions or something?
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Can you still use market apps on an unlocked non dev phone?
I don't get all of the controversy, but the info on Routesy.com is certainly a bit interesting. It sounds like the developer didn't have interest in charging for the app. "NextBus Information Systems, not to be confused with NextBus, claims that an agreement from 2004 gives them full authorization to collect $1 per download from any application developer. Even after I offered to make Routesy free, they still insist on collecting a fee."
Sounds like Muni wanted him to pay them, and he understandably has no obligation by some random 3rd party.
Did I not understand the whole situation per that story and the actual newslink?
Actually I am not a doctor but I am guessing it's something like Ancephaly where the skull was still developed and somehow they survived without growth hormones ever being regulated (due to missing parts of the brain stem), where parts of the brain were still developed enough to regulate the body? I'm sure it's kinda unique they didn't die but I'm still leaning on Ancephaly. Otherwise you could still have the body of the child but the brain of an adult like the midget guy in india.
Everyone is quoting this wrong. The only part denied was the one based off the bias. I'm not sure how swedish law works but I'd imagine there are plenty of other ways for this be declared a mistrial. Public uproar will be a part of that too.
Also, they still have the appeal. So if they are denied appeal or judges make a bad call off the appeal it will make a serious uproar in the country.
Any guesses how long it will take before the appeal starts/decisions are made/etc?
Apparently the logic is missed altogether: "makes possible the deep and unlimited analysis of encrypted information - data that has been intentionally scrambled - without sacrificing confidentiality." is a conflicting phrase in and of itself.
If you can analyze the data "with or without confidentiality", you have already sacrificed the confidentiality. Or does nobody remember the aol search results fiasco?
This is more like "we can crack our own encrpytion, as if people are surprised".
Have you never heard of a forum with a search option?
I found lots of old and new stuff as I worked my way through issues with gaming on linux and learned how to use apt, learned how to compile source, make/make config/make install, learned about sudo, synaptic, all of that.
That stuff is what, 7+ years old? However, there are still both a: new people asking as it is the first time they have encountered it and b: old posts that are easily found via search on said same obscure questions.
In all honestly, a lot can be learned from ubuntu by just searching through search engines.
I'd suggest dogpile as a practical engine if not google itself.
Both ways, every problem I've ever had from being a really basic ubuntu noob to being slightly more experienced (I'm far from a pro) all started with the ubuntu forums.
They have this pretty damn well planned. I would not assume this will die especially with the competitive pricing they were originally talking about. It was like $100/mo for a triple-play at 100MB/s or something if I recall correctly. Also they have plenty of the smart enterprising type (ones with actually ethics to boot) behind this whole thing.
You can tell that this has great potential from 2 things:
1: the doublespeak from the non-muni: "The lack of judicial action on the part of the (Minnesota) Supreme Court will likely discourage other private enterprises from doing or expanding their business in Minnesota".
Anyone who screams about lost business when the only lost business is their own, is full of shit.
2:supreme court basically just nullified any potential to enforce a franchise agreement here, and didn't buy the telco BS.. That is huge for good business and this case will expand far outside the state (and has a lot of coverage at the top of google results today too). I guarantee you this has an enormous country-wide impact.
Planning? They've been doing it for years, its pretty well known that they have the capability, it's just a matter of trying to prove that to other people is damn-near impossible.
your idea here is just going to promote a whole lot of nothing. Oh, it will provoke serious Iranian hatred of the US though.
Condemn an entire country's culture?
That's like condemning the country North Korea for what is the choice of a dictator. It's not the country's fault that they're basically living at gunpoint. I don't like XYZ object but condemning it does nothing.
Why don't you go back to whatever you support when you use logic instead of what I am replying to on this one.
You think you're alone? US citizens have consider the USA justice system a joke for decades too, you know.
Some parts of our system are great (freedom, even if right now we can be monitored etc is still unfettered freedom), a lot of law is practically made with swiss cheese, and the system is rigged to favor congresscritters. Of course it';s being abused.
Judges avoid setting precedents, avoid bucking the trends, so basically congressional folks that manage to get laws passed have free reign to cause whatever mixup has been created with the introduction of x new law. This is why not much hits the supreme court anyway.
The EU system isn't exactly perfect either, but they definitely use more logic in their rulings.
Uh, there's a problem with appeals and excessive amounts. In same cases (although not in civil courts I think, IANAL/correct me at will), you have to post a portion of the money to appeal directly. However in this case due to constitutionality might not be the case.
I'm wondering how good the replacement lawyer was and if that has a factor as well.
Basically the whole case is wide open to appeals though, all around.
I'm going off a hunch here, but I'm guessing this is pretty much illegal, too. Not to mention that every website in question probably has policies against giving out your account info.
that or you can sue Montana City for violating your privacy even with giving them the information, I'd suspect.
Domestics have had a period of crap starting in the late 80's. It hasn't ended in general though. Only their most expensive cars are the ones even remotely built "of quality".
I agree though, it's all about making a good incentive. The wii happens to be an easy one, so I see nothing wrong with that. People used super nintendo and other systems prior, so this is not a new idea. It's just more involved and simpler now.
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so if I homebrew my G1 to a custom firmware I won't be able to download the protected apps nor the actual app store apps, or only the protected ones? I was confused by the formatting of your response as to if you were saying I couldn't do either or the other comment afterwards.
Can you clarify by what you mean by copy protected? Do you mean I can't redownload apps I bought or you can't even buy apps on the unlocked phone?
subscriptions are intangible, are they going to prevent retailers from selling those too? FTA: "prepaid cards of cyber-games"....so they're not going to let people buy world of warcraft subscriptions or something?
Can you still use market apps on an unlocked non dev phone?
I don't get all of the controversy, but the info on Routesy.com is certainly a bit interesting. It sounds like the developer didn't have interest in charging for the app. "NextBus Information Systems, not to be confused with NextBus, claims that an agreement from 2004 gives them full authorization to collect $1 per download from any application developer. Even after I offered to make Routesy free, they still insist on collecting a fee."
Sounds like Muni wanted him to pay them, and he understandably has no obligation by some random 3rd party.
Did I not understand the whole situation per that story and the actual newslink?
Actually I am not a doctor but I am guessing it's something like Ancephaly where the skull was still developed and somehow they survived without growth hormones ever being regulated (due to missing parts of the brain stem), where parts of the brain were still developed enough to regulate the body? I'm sure it's kinda unique they didn't die but I'm still leaning on Ancephaly. Otherwise you could still have the body of the child but the brain of an adult like the midget guy in india.
Mistrial? Easy. How about a manifest error of law. Those happen all the time.
There, example within 30seconds of reading this.
Everyone is quoting this wrong. The only part denied was the one based off the bias. I'm not sure how swedish law works but I'd imagine there are plenty of other ways for this be declared a mistrial. Public uproar will be a part of that too.
Also, they still have the appeal. So if they are denied appeal or judges make a bad call off the appeal it will make a serious uproar in the country.
Any guesses how long it will take before the appeal starts/decisions are made/etc?
Here's something people don't realize:
Remember all those laws about "in plain sight" and all that how law enforcement can steal your info just because something isn't locked away etc?
Well guess what happens to passwords like this. Spy through a window at home, etc.
Do you know what happens if kids were to find Duke Nukem and pause it when he gives the hookers money? BLASPHEMY.
Apparently the logic is missed altogether:
"makes possible the deep and unlimited analysis of encrypted information - data that has been intentionally scrambled - without sacrificing confidentiality." is a conflicting phrase in and of itself.
If you can analyze the data "with or without confidentiality", you have already sacrificed the confidentiality. Or does nobody remember the aol search results fiasco?
This is more like "we can crack our own encrpytion, as if people are surprised".
I wonder if this bears a ton of significance considering the timing of the US equivalent being appointed ?
Have you never heard of a forum with a search option?
I found lots of old and new stuff as I worked my way through issues with gaming on linux and learned how to use apt, learned how to compile source, make/make config/make install, learned about sudo, synaptic, all of that.
That stuff is what, 7+ years old? However, there are still both a: new people asking as it is the first time they have encountered it and b: old posts that are easily found via search on said same obscure questions.
exactly what I thought.
I do indeed suspect there are antitrust issues and "safety" is hardly an excuse (although we already know that).
In all honestly, a lot can be learned from ubuntu by just searching through search engines.
I'd suggest dogpile as a practical engine if not google itself.
Both ways, every problem I've ever had from being a really basic ubuntu noob to being slightly more experienced (I'm far from a pro) all started with the ubuntu forums.
They have this pretty damn well planned. I would not assume this will die especially with the competitive pricing they were originally talking about. It was like $100/mo for a triple-play at 100MB/s or something if I recall correctly. Also they have plenty of the smart enterprising type (ones with actually ethics to boot) behind this whole thing.
You can tell that this has great potential from 2 things:
1: the doublespeak from the non-muni: "The lack of judicial action on the part of the (Minnesota) Supreme Court will likely discourage other private enterprises from doing or expanding their business in Minnesota".
Anyone who screams about lost business when the only lost business is their own, is full of shit.
2:supreme court basically just nullified any potential to enforce a franchise agreement here, and didn't buy the telco BS.. That is huge for good business and this case will expand far outside the state (and has a lot of coverage at the top of google results today too). I guarantee you this has an enormous country-wide impact.
Planning? They've been doing it for years, its pretty well known that they have the capability, it's just a matter of trying to prove that to other people is damn-near impossible.
your idea here is just going to promote a whole lot of nothing. Oh, it will provoke serious Iranian hatred of the US though.
Condemn an entire country's culture?
That's like condemning the country North Korea for what is the choice of a dictator. It's not the country's fault that they're basically living at gunpoint. I don't like XYZ object but condemning it does nothing.
Why don't you go back to whatever you support when you use logic instead of what I am replying to on this one.
You think you're alone? US citizens have consider the USA justice system a joke for decades too, you know.
Some parts of our system are great (freedom, even if right now we can be monitored etc is still unfettered freedom), a lot of law is practically made with swiss cheese, and the system is rigged to favor congresscritters. Of course it';s being abused.
Judges avoid setting precedents, avoid bucking the trends, so basically congressional folks that manage to get laws passed have free reign to cause whatever mixup has been created with the introduction of x new law. This is why not much hits the supreme court anyway.
The EU system isn't exactly perfect either, but they definitely use more logic in their rulings.
Uh, there's a problem with appeals and excessive amounts. In same cases (although not in civil courts I think, IANAL/correct me at will), you have to post a portion of the money to appeal directly. However in this case due to constitutionality might not be the case.
I'm wondering how good the replacement lawyer was and if that has a factor as well.
Basically the whole case is wide open to appeals though, all around.
I'm going off a hunch here, but I'm guessing this is pretty much illegal, too. Not to mention that every website in question probably has policies against giving out your account info.
that or you can sue Montana City for violating your privacy even with giving them the information, I'd suspect.
Domestics have had a period of crap starting in the late 80's. It hasn't ended in general though. Only their most expensive cars are the ones even remotely built "of quality".
did you ever 'catch up' to her?
I agree though, it's all about making a good incentive. The wii happens to be an easy one, so I see nothing wrong with that. People used super nintendo and other systems prior, so this is not a new idea. It's just more involved and simpler now.
Fail. It's never been declared illegal.
So once again, I've never seen FBI warnings or DRM on anything I've downloaded.
its not hard to hide this stuff; people would play stupid on threat of losing ms business etc.