As for the nuclear waste generated aftewards there are a number of clever idea's about how to deal with it including one which disposes of it in the giant fusion reaction that is our Sun.
While in a binary distribution you are forced to use the./configure settings of the maintainer, that's not always incompatible with compartmentalizing part of software. For example, on Debian, if I look at postfix packages, I see this:
postfix - A high-performance mail transport agent postfix-dev - Postfix loadable modules development environment postfix-doc - Postfix documentation postfix-ldap - LDAP map support for Postfix postfix-mysql - MYSQL map support for Postfix postfix-pcre - PCRE map support for Postfix postfix-pgsql - PGSQL map support for Postfix postfix-tls - TLS and SASL support for Postfix
In Gentoo I would put LDAP, MYSQL, POSTGRES, or something similar in my USE flags. I can accomplish the same thing with binary packages if they are properly made, as in the example of postfix - if I want to add LDAP support, I can just install that. The same thing goes for desktop packages - there are quite a few -gnome packages in the Debian archives, and I'm sure you'd find the same thing for Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake, or any of the others.
It's just a different approach to the same concept. Don't knock binary distributions as inflexible.
Off topic, but the website "Gentoo is for Ricers" (http://funroll-loops.org/) was passed around the debian-user list and the Gentoo Forums. It covers just about all the anti-Gentoo jokes.
Our college campus is upgrading everything to gigabit ethernet (over regluar cables, and not mandating it like these jokers). I hear there's VoIP in the works to replace the telephone system, and *that* is what needs the extra bandwidth.
"The aim of this tree is to collect patches that reduce kernel disk and memory footprint as well as tools for working on small systems. Target users are things like embedded systems, small or legacy desktop folks, and handhelds."
It was economically convenient at the time for the EU, whatever other reasons they may have had for signing it. The EU accomplished their reduction goals by shifting to natural gas in many areas formerly requiring oil. Their case was not one of "let's protect the environment and oh, look, it's better for us" - it was "hey, this natural gas stuff is cheaper than oil." Not to say the EU and its member nations don't have an environmental ethic - theirs is much more sustainable - but the fact is that it was economically prudent for them to do so.
Alright, someone just got flamed to a crisp for noting that Mandrake was second to 2.6 after Gentoo, but I've been running Gentoo with Samba 3 for quite a long time.
Gentoo has brought a ports-like system to Linux. It is difficult to make packages from this system platform-neutral - glibc versions, gcc versions, and all that.
The Debian people, no slouches, didn't notice right away, and may not have if there hardware didn't react poorly to the rootkit. The Gentoo compromise was on a completely different scale - to restore the computer to working order, they just plowed the hard drive, reinstalled, and then copied the data from other mirrors. Unfortunately, this is not so easy for Savannah - they host a lot of projects and aren't just running rsync. Savannah wasn't just another mirror, it was the central repository.
The Canopy Group is a minor investor in Trolltech. Trolltech is not a part of the Canopy Group anymore than Microsoft would be part of Mr.NedCorp if I were to invest in it.
> I would have had no clue about this for about a 3 > days if i hadn't read slashdot and didn't have > Fedora to alert me.
Why don't you subscribe to the Debian security announcement list? It is a very low-traffice list and you will get an e-mail as soon as an updated package is available.
By the way, for your interest, here are the times on the rsync e-mails to bugtraq today (in my time zone):
Slashdot Mirror
As for the nuclear waste generated aftewards there are a number of clever idea's about how to deal with it including one which disposes of it in the giant fusion reaction that is our Sun.
One word: Challenger
http://www.electricstate.com/articles/defuglify-sl ashdot/
Found this a while back, and now have it in my Firefox Toolbar - works great.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004 /08/msg00003.html
It's now scheduled to start on the 12th.
You'll need to boot with 'expert' or 'expert26' to load the select-the-mirror installer module which will let you do stable.
While in a binary distribution you are forced to use the ./configure settings of the maintainer, that's not always incompatible with compartmentalizing part of software. For example, on Debian, if I look at postfix packages, I see this:
postfix - A high-performance mail transport agent
postfix-dev - Postfix loadable modules development environment
postfix-doc - Postfix documentation
postfix-ldap - LDAP map support for Postfix
postfix-mysql - MYSQL map support for Postfix
postfix-pcre - PCRE map support for Postfix
postfix-pgsql - PGSQL map support for Postfix
postfix-tls - TLS and SASL support for Postfix
In Gentoo I would put LDAP, MYSQL, POSTGRES, or something similar in my USE flags. I can accomplish the same thing with binary packages if they are properly made, as in the example of postfix - if I want to add LDAP support, I can just install that. The same thing goes for desktop packages - there are quite a few -gnome packages in the Debian archives, and I'm sure you'd find the same thing for Red Hat, SuSE, Mandrake, or any of the others.
It's just a different approach to the same concept. Don't knock binary distributions as inflexible.
Off topic, but the website "Gentoo is for Ricers" (http://funroll-loops.org/) was passed around the debian-user list and the Gentoo Forums. It covers just about all the anti-Gentoo jokes.
Our college campus is upgrading everything to gigabit ethernet (over regluar cables, and not mandating it like these jokers). I hear there's VoIP in the works to replace the telephone system, and *that* is what needs the extra bandwidth.
I saw that a few days ago and tried it out in Debian sarge; crashes and slowdowns have disappeared. Highly suggested.
Yes, but closing the security holes found between 2.4.19 and 2.4.26 doesn't require using 2.4.26 - patches are frequently backported.
I call bullshit. The user in OS X doesn't run as root, and no one calls that 'unusable' or 'hard'.
Knoppix is not Free Software because of the kernel binary firmware. That's the problem with which Debian is grappling.
Have you looked at 2.6-tiny?
http://www.selenic.com/tiny/
"The aim of this tree is to collect patches that reduce kernel disk and memory footprint as well as tools for working on small systems. Target users are things like embedded systems, small or legacy desktop folks, and handhelds."
You might consider adapting the markup used in Wikis - it's very straightforward.
It was economically convenient at the time for the EU, whatever other reasons they may have had for signing it. The EU accomplished their reduction goals by shifting to natural gas in many areas formerly requiring oil. Their case was not one of "let's protect the environment and oh, look, it's better for us" - it was "hey, this natural gas stuff is cheaper than oil." Not to say the EU and its member nations don't have an environmental ethic - theirs is much more sustainable - but the fact is that it was economically prudent for them to do so.
Alright, someone just got flamed to a crisp for noting that Mandrake was second to 2.6 after Gentoo, but I've been running Gentoo with Samba 3 for quite a long time.
Please don't hurt me.
I refuse to believe that any true Klingon programmer would work for Microsoft.
Yes, but it's OS News. Don't be too hard on them, this is their normal standard of work.
Gentoo has brought a ports-like system to Linux. It is difficult to make packages from this system platform-neutral - glibc versions, gcc versions, and all that.
Devil Linux is what you're looking for.
The Debian people, no slouches, didn't notice right away, and may not have if there hardware didn't react poorly to the rootkit. The Gentoo compromise was on a completely different scale - to restore the computer to working order, they just plowed the hard drive, reinstalled, and then copied the data from other mirrors. Unfortunately, this is not so easy for Savannah - they host a lot of projects and aren't just running rsync. Savannah wasn't just another mirror, it was the central repository.
The Canopy Group is a minor investor in Trolltech. Trolltech is not a part of the Canopy Group anymore than Microsoft would be part of Mr.NedCorp if I were to invest in it.
I'd think the KDE team's time is better spent on koding than naming.
> I would have had no clue about this for about a 3
> days if i hadn't read slashdot and didn't have
> Fedora to alert me.
Why don't you subscribe to the Debian security announcement list? It is a very low-traffice list and you will get an e-mail as soon as an updated package is available.
By the way, for your interest, here are the times on the rsync e-mails to bugtraq today (in my time zone):
Slackware: 2:50AM
Debian: 11:09AM
SuSE: 12:14PM
Gentoo: 3:13PM
Connectiva: 3:46PM
Red Hat: 4:14PM
Debian lists are active again, and it seems most services have been restored. Pretty impressive.
Who are you kidding? They're not coming to Slashdot!