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Absentee Ballots by Email?
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There already is a mechanism in place for soldiers and the like stationed overseas to vote. It's essentially an absentee ballot (not sure if it's the correct name).
These ballots have already been sent on their way to the folks in the field. There have been a few issues, I've heard, where the blank ballots have not gotten to their destination but that can be rectified by simply sending more blanks.
If the people in the field aren't capable of filling in a blank paper ballot what makes you think they can correctly send in an electronic ballot?
The problem with your comparison is that the Empire State Building (ESB) was designed in a much different manner than the World Trade Center (WTC).
The ESB uses a steel framework to carry the load. The rock facing you see is simply hung from this framework. See this link for a brief description.
The WTC had no such framework. There was a central core which was the main frame. From that central core the floor panels were attached on one end and on the other end were attached to an outside aluminum framework whose sole purpose was to supply rigidity. It was not designed to carry the building load. See this site for a very good description of the design.
When the planes slammed in to the WTC the outer rigidity was compromised as was the central core. The burning of the jet fuel softened (NOT MELTED) the steel supports under the floor panels which caused them to sag. Add in the extra weight of the plane sitting on the floor panels and the panels were eventually pulled loose from their attachments to the outer aluminum wall. The floor panels then began to fall in the now proverbial 'pancake' fashion.
Without the floor panels providing the necessary support the outer skin was not able to do its job. Thus, the floors above the impact point no longer had the stability they once had. When those floors began to collapse that was when the whole structure gave way.
The other key difference in the two hits is that the plane that hit the ESB was traveling at a much slower speed than were the planes that hit the WTC. Further, the two planes carried a much higher fuel load and were nearly full upon impact.
Here is the most current report and testing results. It was released on August 25th. While I read the NY Times version this is from the official tests. Lots of.pdf files.
Just to show you how some people can never be pleased, the guy complains to his doctor that because he has no teeth he has to cut it into such small pieces that by the time he gets to the end of the steak, it's cold.
Reminds me of the story that was related to me the other night by someone on IRC. They knew someone whose kids found $200K in a bag and was eventually given control of the money since no one claimed it.
The person spent the money on a house and 2 Jeeps and then later complained that they'd wish they could get a break in life.
Ugh - same here in Philly. The land of 'no turn signals'.
It's not just Philly. Here in our thriving Capital City, I can assure you that turn signals are not a necessity.
Nor is stopping for a red light, yielding at a yield sign, looking before changing lanes or looking to see if there are pedestrians in crosswalks.
Oh, and turning from the outside lane to get to an exit on the inside is practically a reqirement. The more crap you have hanging from your review mirror, especially if its a religious symbol or some other nations flag, the more likely the culprit.
If you don't want people to share it then don't sell it.
Specious argument. This same argument could be said about anything; books, knives, clothes.
You own it for your use. As I said previously you can do with it what you want. For your use.
I agree that the limits are ridiculous but at what point do we tell the industry to get real?
Apple seems to have solved that problem. You can copy, fold and spindle the song that you purchased to just about your hearts content AND can give it to a select number of people. Maybe the number is too low for you. If so maybe a campaign should be mounted to ask Apple to increase the nubmer of people you are allowed to give your copy to.
The product is easily copied. Deal with it. Refine the business model.
Another specious argument. Since by its very nature software, whether music or applications, can in some way eventually be copied the owners are simply doing what they can to stem the tide of those who believe it is fine to give away something which they do not have to right to give away.
Again, I go back to Apple. Their business model is exactly what people asked for yet there are those who still whine and bitch about having to even pay.99 cents for a song.
Does the supermarket sue people who take their plants home, trim cuttings, and grow new plants?
No because it is still part of the original plant and they are using it for their own purpose.
Will they sue you for imitating their particular rye bread?
No because you went out and bought all the ingredients and created the bread yourself. You didn't go into the bakery and take some of their dough or steal the actual recipe.
Will the grocer sue you for taking apple seeds and growing your own tree? How about tomato plants or peppers which can be COPIED in less than a year?
Again, you are using the original plant for your own use.
People will use any excuse they can to justify not having to pay for something and claim it is their right to do so or they don't believe in such-and-such law so they'll do what they want.
Things are the way they are because we the people have let things get this bad. Had we actually been paying attention and done our civic duty and voting in people who had two brain cells to rub together things wouldn't be at this point.
The only reason laws are created is because someone did something which they shouldn't have be that murder, rape or copyright infringement. As I said before, you do not have a right to distribute the song/album even if you bought it. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. Just because others are doing it doesn't mean you should. (not you personally, the general you).
This is an artificial crime called "copyright infringement".
How is it an artifical crime? You do not have permission to distribute the song. Period. End of story.
You can fold, spindle and mutilate the song/album to your hearts content for YOUR use but you do not have the right to give it to 1000 of your closest 'friends'.
As far as the theft part is concerned, if you didn't pay it for it, it's theft. I'm excluding situations where someone buys it for you and gives it to you since it is already paid for. I am also excluding the situation where you give the CD to a friend for them to listen to and then they return it to you. Just like a library.
This nonsense about 'information wants to be free' is tiring. Someone has to pay for the product or there wouldn't be anyone producing anything. Even free software isn't free since someone has to pay for the hardware to compile and distribute it. Someone has to pay for the bandwidth. Someone has to pay for the electricity. Someone has to pay for all the other equipment involved in producing the software.
If you don't consider it theft walk into any music store and grab the CD you want and walk out. I'm sure the store would have a different opinion than you about what is and what is not theft.
If you don't like the rules, change them. Don't think you're making some kind of statement about what you consider to be a wrong.
I personally don't consider anything under 12 inches to be worthwhile, but now I'll think twice about ruling-out the potential of such small telescopes.
Boy am I glad you ended that sentence with the word 'telescope'.
Having lived near TMI (Three Mile Island; within the 10 mile circle) all my life and having been out and about delivering papers during the crisis, I can attest to the fact that not having to use a lamp at night to read is a definite bonus.
It certainly helps my electric bills not having to turn on lights once the sun goes down.
There's that, plus the fact that ICQ was the first wide-scale IM client.
Maybe I'm mistaken but wouldn't mIRC have been the first widespread IM client? I know I was using it before ICQ was out and IRC was certainly around since basically the beginning of 'The Web'.
The Wild West Casino is part of Ballys. Go to the Ballys in the middle of the boardwalk, next to Sands. If you come in to Ballys off the boardwalk go through the casino floor and bear left at the ATM machine on the far side (left side). Go straight ahead, past the moving walkway on your right, and you'll walk straight into the Wild West Casino.
If you come in through the parking garage go down the elevator to the casino level. Go down the moving walkway and turn right immediately at the end instead of going left to Ballys.
I try to go to AC once a year and have been going there for many years.
I have also been to Vegas but this casino is not in Vegas.
P.S. The buffet at the top of the stairs in Wild West is very good. Maybe a tad expensive for an afternoon lunch but a good value for a dinner. Plenty to choose from (8 stations?) and good quality food.
it is sort of like when you are at a theme restaurant and they have dude/cowgirl, actor/actress or similiar on the doors of their bathrooms.
In Atlantic City, New Jersey, in the Wild West Casino, when you go into the bathrooms, the stall doors DO have pictures of dudes/cowgirls on the doors.
Not really on topic to the main story but on tpic to your post so go ahead mods, mark it Offtopic. You marked my last post as Flamebait and rejected my last story about the secrecy behind the companies who are doing testing for the touch-screen voting but post a dupe of a previous story so knock yourselves out.
Stop it. Just stop it. There has never been one documented case where praying, and praying alone, has ever done anything for anyone. Never. If praying actually worked then at least one of those people who refuse to get medical attention for themselves or their children would have had a success. It's never happened. In every case the child has died when a medical condition exists (at least those that were life threatening).
In every circumstance where someone thought praying helped it was found that the person who was helped was already undergoing medical treatment. Just like in your case.
As a poster earlier said, it helped you, not your son. Praying only gives peace of mind to those doing the praying.
Even replacing every toilet in the nation would likely take a few decades. It's not normally the first thing that people do when they move in to a new house.
You're probably right though I can assure that is the FIRST thing I will be doing when I move.
If Barbara Streisand can have a new toilet seat every time she has a gig, I can have a new toilet when I get my house.
That said, other countries being offended by offerings in the USA (like the Koran chant in the video game) need to be scoffed at. Their culture is not the US culture and should not be considered.
And what exactly is the US culture? Unless I'm mistaken the US culture is one supposed to be based on anyone from anywhere. The old melting pot.
I guess if a muslim country produced a video game with christian chants or something similar and the religious fanatics in the US got in an uproar it's ok for the muslim country to scoff at them?
I know, a game should be produced showing the Pope saying it is ok to kill and rape unbelievers. Yeah, let's do that. That won't be a problem since Catholicism isn't part of a muslim country's culture.
There already is a mechanism in place for soldiers and the like stationed overseas to vote. It's essentially an absentee ballot (not sure if it's the correct name).
These ballots have already been sent on their way to the folks in the field. There have been a few issues, I've heard, where the blank ballots have not gotten to their destination but that can be rectified by simply sending more blanks.
If the people in the field aren't capable of filling in a blank paper ballot what makes you think they can correctly send in an electronic ballot?
The ESB uses a steel framework to carry the load. The rock facing you see is simply hung from this framework. See this link for a brief description.
The WTC had no such framework. There was a central core which was the main frame. From that central core the floor panels were attached on one end and on the other end were attached to an outside aluminum framework whose sole purpose was to supply rigidity. It was not designed to carry the building load. See this site for a very good description of the design.
When the planes slammed in to the WTC the outer rigidity was compromised as was the central core. The burning of the jet fuel softened (NOT MELTED) the steel supports under the floor panels which caused them to sag. Add in the extra weight of the plane sitting on the floor panels and the panels were eventually pulled loose from their attachments to the outer aluminum wall. The floor panels then began to fall in the now proverbial 'pancake' fashion.
Without the floor panels providing the necessary support the outer skin was not able to do its job. Thus, the floors above the impact point no longer had the stability they once had. When those floors began to collapse that was when the whole structure gave way.
The other key difference in the two hits is that the plane that hit the ESB was traveling at a much slower speed than were the planes that hit the WTC. Further, the two planes carried a much higher fuel load and were nearly full upon impact.
Here is the most current report and testing results. It was released on August 25th. While I read the NY Times version this is from the official tests. Lots of .pdf files.
Just to show you how some people can never be pleased, the guy complains to his doctor that because he has no teeth he has to cut it into such small pieces that by the time he gets to the end of the steak, it's cold.
Reminds me of the story that was related to me the other night by someone on IRC. They knew someone whose kids found $200K in a bag and was eventually given control of the money since no one claimed it.
The person spent the money on a house and 2 Jeeps and then later complained that they'd wish they could get a break in life.
Imagine that, report that something bad is happening and people want to kill you for being honest and responsible.
You've never been in the political arena, have you?
It's not just Philly. Here in our thriving Capital City, I can assure you that turn signals are not a necessity.
Nor is stopping for a red light, yielding at a yield sign, looking before changing lanes or looking to see if there are pedestrians in crosswalks.
Oh, and turning from the outside lane to get to an exit on the inside is practically a reqirement. The more crap you have hanging from your review mirror, especially if its a religious symbol or some other nations flag, the more likely the culprit.
No, I'm not bitter. Why do you ask?
Specious argument. This same argument could be said about anything; books, knives, clothes.
You own it for your use. As I said previously you can do with it what you want. For your use.
I agree that the limits are ridiculous but at what point do we tell the industry to get real?
Apple seems to have solved that problem. You can copy, fold and spindle the song that you purchased to just about your hearts content AND can give it to a select number of people. Maybe the number is too low for you. If so maybe a campaign should be mounted to ask Apple to increase the nubmer of people you are allowed to give your copy to.
The product is easily copied. Deal with it. Refine the business model.
Another specious argument. Since by its very nature software, whether music or applications, can in some way eventually be copied the owners are simply doing what they can to stem the tide of those who believe it is fine to give away something which they do not have to right to give away.
Again, I go back to Apple. Their business model is exactly what people asked for yet there are those who still whine and bitch about having to even pay .99 cents for a song.
Does the supermarket sue people who take their plants home, trim cuttings, and grow new plants?
No because it is still part of the original plant and they are using it for their own purpose.
Will they sue you for imitating their particular rye bread?
No because you went out and bought all the ingredients and created the bread yourself. You didn't go into the bakery and take some of their dough or steal the actual recipe.
Will the grocer sue you for taking apple seeds and growing your own tree? How about tomato plants or peppers which can be COPIED in less than a year?
Again, you are using the original plant for your own use.
People will use any excuse they can to justify not having to pay for something and claim it is their right to do so or they don't believe in such-and-such law so they'll do what they want.
Things are the way they are because we the people have let things get this bad. Had we actually been paying attention and done our civic duty and voting in people who had two brain cells to rub together things wouldn't be at this point.
The only reason laws are created is because someone did something which they shouldn't have be that murder, rape or copyright infringement. As I said before, you do not have a right to distribute the song/album even if you bought it. Just because it can be done doesn't mean it should be done. Just because others are doing it doesn't mean you should. (not you personally, the general you).
How is it an artifical crime? You do not have permission to distribute the song. Period. End of story.
You can fold, spindle and mutilate the song/album to your hearts content for YOUR use but you do not have the right to give it to 1000 of your closest 'friends'.
As far as the theft part is concerned, if you didn't pay it for it, it's theft. I'm excluding situations where someone buys it for you and gives it to you since it is already paid for. I am also excluding the situation where you give the CD to a friend for them to listen to and then they return it to you. Just like a library.
This nonsense about 'information wants to be free' is tiring. Someone has to pay for the product or there wouldn't be anyone producing anything. Even free software isn't free since someone has to pay for the hardware to compile and distribute it. Someone has to pay for the bandwidth. Someone has to pay for the electricity. Someone has to pay for all the other equipment involved in producing the software.
If you don't consider it theft walk into any music store and grab the CD you want and walk out. I'm sure the store would have a different opinion than you about what is and what is not theft.
If you don't like the rules, change them. Don't think you're making some kind of statement about what you consider to be a wrong.
You think those are interesting, this one really makes one think:
crack ebible software
At first I thought they were misspelling the middle word and until I realized that no, it was the correct spelling.
Eat a bowl of chili and let us know.
Boy am I glad you ended that sentence with the word 'telescope'.
I'm sure there's a joke in there about fat americans but I just can't quite get it figured out.
No, because as you are no doubt aware, vampires vaporize on contact with sunlight.
Therefore, not only will the internet have a meltdown tomorrow, so will you.
Does this mean that Ashcroft is now our friend or is this the wrong week?
LOL! This is what you get when you go to your link:
Sorry, you aren't allowed to access that.
The webmasters were notified about this.
Having lived near TMI (Three Mile Island; within the 10 mile circle) all my life and having been out and about delivering papers during the crisis, I can attest to the fact that not having to use a lamp at night to read is a definite bonus.
It certainly helps my electric bills not having to turn on lights once the sun goes down.
Maybe I'm mistaken but wouldn't mIRC have been the first widespread IM client? I know I was using it before ICQ was out and IRC was certainly around since basically the beginning of 'The Web'.
The Wild West Casino is part of Ballys. Go to the Ballys in the middle of the boardwalk, next to Sands. If you come in to Ballys off the boardwalk go through the casino floor and bear left at the ATM machine on the far side (left side). Go straight ahead, past the moving walkway on your right, and you'll walk straight into the Wild West Casino.
If you come in through the parking garage go down the elevator to the casino level. Go down the moving walkway and turn right immediately at the end instead of going left to Ballys.
I try to go to AC once a year and have been going there for many years.
I have also been to Vegas but this casino is not in Vegas.
P.S. The buffet at the top of the stairs in Wild West is very good. Maybe a tad expensive for an afternoon lunch but a good value for a dinner. Plenty to choose from (8 stations?) and good quality food.
In Atlantic City, New Jersey, in the Wild West Casino, when you go into the bathrooms, the stall doors DO have pictures of dudes/cowgirls on the doors.
Not really on topic to the main story but on tpic to your post so go ahead mods, mark it Offtopic. You marked my last post as Flamebait and rejected my last story about the secrecy behind the companies who are doing testing for the touch-screen voting but post a dupe of a previous story so knock yourselves out.
Stop it. Just stop it. There has never been one documented case where praying, and praying alone, has ever done anything for anyone. Never. If praying actually worked then at least one of those people who refuse to get medical attention for themselves or their children would have had a success. It's never happened. In every case the child has died when a medical condition exists (at least those that were life threatening).
In every circumstance where someone thought praying helped it was found that the person who was helped was already undergoing medical treatment. Just like in your case.
As a poster earlier said, it helped you, not your son. Praying only gives peace of mind to those doing the praying.
You're probably right though I can assure that is the FIRST thing I will be doing when I move.
If Barbara Streisand can have a new toilet seat every time she has a gig, I can have a new toilet when I get my house.
While we're at it you might as well throw in NIC card.
You must be a fan of CSI.
P.S. For those that don't know, here is what I'm talking about.
the remains of the parachute and heat shield which were seen in other photos early on.
Yeah, not the most exciting thing but you could send the rover(s) on a long trip to see the remnants and examine stuff along the way.
Checking the remains would provide information for future designs regarding heat shield and parachute technology.
And what exactly is the US culture? Unless I'm mistaken the US culture is one supposed to be based on anyone from anywhere. The old melting pot.
I guess if a muslim country produced a video game with christian chants or something similar and the religious fanatics in the US got in an uproar it's ok for the muslim country to scoff at them?
I know, a game should be produced showing the Pope saying it is ok to kill and rape unbelievers. Yeah, let's do that. That won't be a problem since Catholicism isn't part of a muslim country's culture.