Actually, the post *above* mine was the one that suggested all the machines have Linux.
Sun and Cisco are extremely widely used. So are SGI's and Mac's.
What I said had little to do with making people use Linux...
I love how I'm part of "us people".
Guess we're all the same, eh? We're all fans of Linux, SGI, Rancid, NOFX, Guttermouth, and soccer, right? Of course.
I find Microsoft's suggestion very amusing... spreading the monolopy further by "getting 'em hooked while they're young", as the anti-cigarettecompany groups would say.
Alternatives to MS stuff would be good, though... and not just linux! How about Sun servers, Cisco routers, Macintosh and SGI graphics stations?
There's plenty of "tools of the trade" equipment that isn't Microsoft that is still widely used in certain fields. Why not give kids the advantage of growing up with this other equipment? If any of this is going to high schools, this kind of equipment would be *far* more useful than, for example, a word processor; anyone can write essays on paper, but can you do raytraced pictures on paper if you're thinking about pursuing a career in computer graphics?
Besides, tethering schools to Microsoft might bring about a lot more of those "incidents" we've been seeing lately where MS charges some governmental organization large sums because they have lost track of a couple of site licenses.
Patrick Bridges OS pages
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Exokernels Anyone?
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· Score: 3, Informative
There's a guy named Pat Bridges who keeps a big list of OS project and the like, his page is here.
I don't know about any linux exokernel projects, but linux.org might have some relevant stuff on their projects page.
Point in case, except... other than potential threat from other countries, why even bother with going to space?
Just set up a country with very high expectations of not only its citizens but also of its government. Then, you can almost guarantee that freedom won't be abused, therefore you don't have to limit it.
Of course jobs and colleges will eventually require them, so its only "voluntary" if you want to be uneducated and unemployed.. just like eating is a "voluntary" activity for people who don't want to live more than a couple weeks, I suppose?
I don't mean to sound like a troll, but I don't think calling this "voluntary" makes much sense.
Perhaps he can answer this though: without exploit code, how do we know the problem is really fixed ? Twice to my knowedge MS has released patches that didn't fix the hole they claimed. Publicly available exploits are a failsafe, they provide an independant means of verifying that the hole is actually closed.
I think that is the single most important reason for exploit code.
I read one of the new (yes, I know, the old were much better) Tom Swift books where Tom invents some sort of magical force field and, as the acid test, he makes his robot assistant fire a few rounds at him. Of course, it's dangerous to fire a gun at a person, but other than proving its effectiveness beyond any reasonable doubt by examining the mechanism behind the force field (akin to studying the source code in detail, which, since it isn't open to the public, isn't open to scrutiny) there is no other final way of determining that something works other than trying it.
If Microsoft is going to be a closed-source software industry, they're going to have to accept the consequences of their decisions. They have to take full responsibility for their own code. Blaming their problems on something else does not eradicate them.
The idea behind open-source is that the information is free and free to alter. The information in this case is the chip internals; the actual chip may still cost many $$, just like Red Hat's Linux costs many $$ even though (almost?) all the software included is available for free.
Yes!/. types should head the way of indie labels, IMHO. There are some *good* punk and metal bands that put pop culture to shame on indie labels, who haven't sold out because they are happy with their status.
And besides, maybe this means more sales for my band, fear of zero (fearofzero.50megs.com) -- 'specially because the music is guaranteed to be readable on a computer, after all, we wrote it to the disc with a computer!;D
I got a pair of $60 Philips USB speakers (40W I believe) as a Christmas present -- they have decent frequency response for computer speakers, and they can amplify most things well without clipping except for 4K-8K range, so you lose some definition at high volume. They definitely bring out the bad parts of cheap MP3's, too -- although I think it's more the encoder's fault than the bitrate; bladeenc and gogo have never given me that sort of trashy sound even at 96 kbps.
AugstWest: Over the past few days, I've learned that no matter how important or interesting of a point you are making, people are bound to interpret it wrong, judge quickly, etc. Everybody's just anxious, nervous, and scared, for the most part; I think it's best not to worry about petty things like comment moderations:)
Re:What can be done about terrorism?
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More On Tragedy
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My view exactly! Retaliation on such a grand scale is simply an excuse for more mass murder.
(Of course, I've already posted that several times already, and gotten modded down as "Troll"...)
Why, so foreign people will have an advantage over US citizens? I doubt it. Probably the major repercussions will all take place *within* the government, especially in the area of intelligence.
"Uh you are aware that not all Skins are racist, right? You fucking piece of shit."
It's Guttermouth's song, not mine. Besides, you'll notice they list a whole bunch of things, not necessarily connected to each other.
I stated that my point was "who is the asshole?" et cetera. To clarify: I am commenting on the fact that I am watching everybody lay the blame on each other here, at school, on the news -- the people laying the blame do so because they think they know who the "asshole" is, yet they're being assholes themselve.
Please read comments carefully. Don't assume that because I quote something I believe it. If someone said, "Never in my life... I would have voted for Bush." If you only saw the "I would have voted for Bush" part, and not the first part, you would have completely missed the point the person was making, just because you didn't take the time to read it fully.
[To say nothing of my personal feelings!] I firmly disapprove of prejudice and stereotyping and I can't stand people who do it. Don't assume I stereotype unless you know for a fact that I do. It's your kinds of comment that deserve "-1, Troll".
"Moderations: Troll=2" Let me explain my point in more obvious terms, since it is apparent you did not take the time to read carefully.
Many People Are Laying Blame. Hence I am examing the following ideas:
People claim that so-and-so is responsible.
(This would make so-and-so an asshole of immense proportions.)
Immense numbers of people are blaming groups and individuals.
But wouldn't those laying undue blame be assholes themselves then?
People *want* certain groups to be responsible.
Just like in the song, people are stereotyping. I have seen more "Bomb the Middle East" posts than I can count. <SARCASM>So I guess everyone in the Middle East deserves to die, eh...</SARCASM>
Hah. Now I know why experienced slashdot users sometimes write sarcasm in all caps; otherwise the triggerhappy moderators might not see it.
This is not a troll. I repeat, this is not a troll. I just want people to think about the philsophy behind these lyrics, and how it applies to the terrorists, the people shouting "WAR", the people shouting "Bomb the Middle East", the people shouting "Turn the Other Cheek", and everyone else who has formed some opinion...
My point: are we really all assholes? Who's the asshole here? Who's supposed to be the asshole? Who wants whom to be the asshole?
Asshole [Guttermouth]
I don't like the things you like
And you don't like the things I like
She don't like the things they like
So who the fuck is really right
See a skinhead at a show
Let him know he's got to go
Fuck white power, the KKK
A-S-S-H-O-L-E!
Chorus
Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole
Mom and dad, the Grateful Dead
Major labels and straight edge
Coors and school and roller blades
God, Rick James and Oakley shades
Fishing, Wayne, silly jocks
Nazis, midgets, new tube socks
L.D. from M.R.&R.
And fucking Zeppelin Man
Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole
Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole
Hippies, harleys, Pearl Jam
Chili peppers, case of Spam
Riot grrls, Ponch and Jon
Squash and pork and carmel flan
We hate these things
We hate you, too
Go fuck a monkey in the zoo
Oscar Meyer has a way with
B.O.L.O.G.N.A.
(I apologize in advance if I got any of the lyrics wrong.)
Not necessarily. In some OO languages, the = operator can be overloaded; in fact, this is my big beef with OO languages is you don't know what the computer is doing (Simple expressions can be executing functions and the like, and this is extremely misleading). Plus, maybe in an old spec of some "Huge Integer" package, the undocumented x += value works as expected, but maybe in a new version, it might increase the precision instead or something.
I had a laptop that worked fine up until 1997, at which point it suddenly decided it was 2097. It used an OLD PhoenixBIOS I _think_. My only guess is that the BIOS clock-setting utility was designed to have Y2K support but used a century flag that happened to sit over some bit position they didn't foresee being in use:D
I post a verbatim copy of a letter I sent to the battlebots.com site and Heather Mayer, their attorney, below, which I believe should clarify what a corporation's "rights" seem to be:
I would like to start by informing you I am not involved with
battlebots.org or Mr. Lyon in any way, shape, or form. I simply
discovered his website. Therefore, anything I say should not, and must
not, be held against him or his website in any way, including all legal
proceedings. I also do not profess to be a certified expert on
the law, so you may wish to take my legal opinions with a grain of salt.
The examples I provide, however, should clarify my position and
observations.
On his website battlebots.org, Mr. Lyon has posted your
communications with him, to which I am replying.
Following are excerpts from a letter written by a Jason Cooper, in
quotes, followed by my own replies:
"We understand that you have received the cease and desist letter from our
attorney. Since this is a matter of great sensitivity to us, we are forced
to consider legal action to enjoin you from further use of the domain
name. However, we would also like to resolve the situation in the least
contentious manner possible under the circumstances."
[To Battlebots.com company, et al]
It is obvious you don't want to shoulder responsibility for this. You say
that you "understand that you have received... from our attorney" which
makes it sound as if "your" attorney has nothing to do with you
whatsoever. You also claim "this is a matter of great sensitivity" --- it
is common knowledge that a ".com" site is almost always more well-known,
more respected, and considered more authoritative than a ".org" site.
[To Battlebots.com company and Attorney Heather Mayer]
It seems your obsession with owning battlebots.org is based solely on the
U.S. law requiring a company owning a trademark to enforce its ownership.
On that note, Microsoft should have sued me at least several times by now.
I have said "Shut the windows*, there's a storm coming!" more times than I
can count. (*=In case you were unaware, Windows is a trademark of
Microsoft Corp.)
It seems obvious to me that trademark enforcement only applies to the
specific domain for which whatever is trademarked is applicable. In other
words, "Battlebots" refers to fighting robots --- *IF* battlebots.org was
a site about fighting robots, which it is most definitely *NOT*, you
should enforce your trademark on that term specific to that realm.
However, the site has nothing to do with the type of entertainment you
trademarked. In fact, the site has nothing to do with entertainment.
You may also note that "OpenOffice" has been trademarked, yet
openoffice.org, owned by Sun Microsystems and unaffiliated with the
company that trademarked "OpenOffice", continues to operate. On their
website, they specifically note the trademark issue, and say that there
site has nothing to do with OpenOffice, and officially is a site about
openoffice.org. (Yes, a website *about* a something that has the name of
a website. Confusing, isn't it? So are the U.S. trademark laws, ha!)
You also claim you would like to resolve this matter in "the least
contentious manner possible under the circumstances."
The circumstances are this: you want something that has nothing to do with
your trademark. Trademark is a compound word, consisting of "trade" and
"mark". You'll notice that battlebots.org and battlebots.com do not share
the same trade. This should make the circumstances, or lack thereof, very
easy to understand.
"As you will not be able to use the domain (battlebots.org) in any
fashion, we recommend that you transfer it to us immediately, and
BattleBots Inc. will reimburse you for the expense you incurred in
registering the name."
If my given birth name was Battlebots, and you made me change my name,
would reimbursement for the fees involved help me rebuild my reputation?
No.
If everybody who had ever done business with me knew I was named
Battlebots Williams and suddenly could not locate me, would you reimburse
me for the lost sales? It sure doesn't look that way.
Williams is a very common name. People would most likely know me as
Battlebots Williams, not as simply Mr. Williams.
Likewise, no seasoned user of the Internet would ever think of trying to
find AOL's homepage by simply looking through every single.com in
existence. Battlebots.org is not uniquely identifiable as simply
something "dot-org."
"We're sorry for any inconvenience, but we must protect our US and
international trademarks and intellectual property."
The U.S. trademark system is designed to prevent your competitors from
stealing your business by using your name, provided you enforce your
ownership.
Slashdot Mirror
The Gimp has scanner support with the SANE plug-in.
Actually, the post *above* mine was the one that suggested all the machines have Linux.
Sun and Cisco are extremely widely used. So are SGI's and Mac's.
What I said had little to do with making people use Linux...
I love how I'm part of "us people".
Guess we're all the same, eh? We're all fans of Linux, SGI, Rancid, NOFX, Guttermouth, and soccer, right? Of course.
I find Microsoft's suggestion very amusing... spreading the monolopy further by "getting 'em hooked while they're young", as the anti-cigarettecompany groups would say.
Alternatives to MS stuff would be good, though... and not just linux! How about Sun servers, Cisco routers, Macintosh and SGI graphics stations?
There's plenty of "tools of the trade" equipment that isn't Microsoft that is still widely used in certain fields. Why not give kids the advantage of growing up with this other equipment? If any of this is going to high schools, this kind of equipment would be *far* more useful than, for example, a word processor; anyone can write essays on paper, but can you do raytraced pictures on paper if you're thinking about pursuing a career in computer graphics?
Besides, tethering schools to Microsoft might bring about a lot more of those "incidents" we've been seeing lately where MS charges some governmental organization large sums because they have lost track of a couple of site licenses.
There's a guy named Pat Bridges who keeps a big list of OS project and the like, his page is here.
I don't know about any linux exokernel projects, but linux.org might have some relevant stuff on their projects page.
Point in case, except... other than potential threat from other countries, why even bother with going to space?
;)
Just set up a country with very high expectations of not only its citizens but also of its government. Then, you can almost guarantee that freedom won't be abused, therefore you don't have to limit it.
Or am I completely wrong here.. probably
Better yet, insert them as comments, and then users can have the option to automatically make Advertising Cowards be at -10 :)
Voluntary... wonderful.
Of course jobs and colleges will eventually require them, so its only "voluntary" if you want to be uneducated and unemployed.. just like eating is a "voluntary" activity for people who don't want to live more than a couple weeks, I suppose?
I don't mean to sound like a troll, but I don't think calling this "voluntary" makes much sense.
Perhaps he can answer this though: without exploit code, how do we know the problem is really fixed ? Twice to my knowedge MS has released patches that didn't fix the hole they claimed. Publicly available exploits are a failsafe, they provide an independant means of verifying that the hole is actually closed.
I think that is the single most important reason for exploit code.
I read one of the new (yes, I know, the old were much better) Tom Swift books where Tom invents some sort of magical force field and, as the acid test, he makes his robot assistant fire a few rounds at him. Of course, it's dangerous to fire a gun at a person, but other than proving its effectiveness beyond any reasonable doubt by examining the mechanism behind the force field (akin to studying the source code in detail, which, since it isn't open to the public, isn't open to scrutiny) there is no other final way of determining that something works other than trying it.
If Microsoft is going to be a closed-source software industry, they're going to have to accept the consequences of their decisions. They have to take full responsibility for their own code. Blaming their problems on something else does not eradicate them.
My cat uses a mac.
Actually, ROT26 is fun with non-English alphabets. Not only does it change the data, but it's non-symmetrical (except for 52-letter alphabets.)
:)
Plural of focus is foci :)
The idea behind open-source is that the information is free and free to alter. The information in this case is the chip internals; the actual chip may still cost many $$, just like Red Hat's Linux costs many $$ even though (almost?) all the software included is available for free.
Yes! /. types should head the way of indie labels, IMHO. There are some *good* punk and metal bands that put pop culture to shame on indie labels, who haven't sold out because they are happy with their status.
;D
And besides, maybe this means more sales for my band, fear of zero (fearofzero.50megs.com) -- 'specially because the music is guaranteed to be readable on a computer, after all, we wrote it to the disc with a computer!
I got a pair of $60 Philips USB speakers (40W I believe) as a Christmas present -- they have decent frequency response for computer speakers, and they can amplify most things well without clipping except for 4K-8K range, so you lose some definition at high volume. They definitely bring out the bad parts of cheap MP3's, too -- although I think it's more the encoder's fault than the bitrate; bladeenc and gogo have never given me that sort of trashy sound even at 96 kbps.
Damn, Who isn't?
I mean....
You know, I read this article title as "AMD to Close Pants, ..." the first time I glanced at it...
:) They could go into the toasters business....
AMD, you little heat-whore, you
"Big Blue's dominator is getting closer to being turned on."
Ooh, can I do it? I like to turn on dominators!
Sticks and stones may break my bones
But whips and chains excite me.
AugstWest: Over the past few days, I've learned that no matter how important or interesting of a point you are making, people are bound to interpret it wrong, judge quickly, etc. Everybody's just anxious, nervous, and scared, for the most part; I think it's best not to worry about petty things like comment moderations :)
My view exactly! Retaliation on such a grand scale is simply an excuse for more mass murder.
(Of course, I've already posted that several times already, and gotten modded down as "Troll"...)
Why, so foreign people will have an advantage over US citizens? I doubt it. Probably the major repercussions will all take place *within* the government, especially in the area of intelligence.
It's Guttermouth's song, not mine. Besides, you'll notice they list a whole bunch of things, not necessarily connected to each other.
I stated that my point was "who is the asshole?" et cetera. To clarify: I am commenting on the fact that I am watching everybody lay the blame on each other here, at school, on the news -- the people laying the blame do so because they think they know who the "asshole" is, yet they're being assholes themselve.
Please read comments carefully. Don't assume that because I quote something I believe it. If someone said, "Never in my life... I would have voted for Bush." If you only saw the "I would have voted for Bush" part, and not the first part, you would have completely missed the point the person was making, just because you didn't take the time to read it fully.
[To say nothing of my personal feelings!] I firmly disapprove of prejudice and stereotyping and I can't stand people who do it. Don't assume I stereotype unless you know for a fact that I do. It's your kinds of comment that deserve "-1, Troll".
"Moderations: Troll=2"
Let me explain my point in more obvious terms, since it is apparent you did not take the time to read carefully.
(This would make so-and-so an asshole of immense proportions.)
But wouldn't those laying undue blame be assholes themselves then?
Just like in the song, people are stereotyping. I have seen more "Bomb the Middle East" posts than I can count. <SARCASM>So I guess everyone in the Middle East deserves to die, eh...</SARCASM>
Hah. Now I know why experienced slashdot users sometimes write sarcasm in all caps; otherwise the triggerhappy moderators might not see it.
This is not a troll. I repeat, this is not a troll. I just want people to think about the philsophy behind these lyrics, and how it applies to the terrorists, the people shouting "WAR", the people shouting "Bomb the Middle East", the people shouting "Turn the Other Cheek", and everyone else who has formed some opinion...
My point: are we really all assholes? Who's the asshole here? Who's supposed to be the asshole? Who wants whom to be the asshole?
Asshole [Guttermouth]
I don't like the things you like
And you don't like the things I like
She don't like the things they like
So who the fuck is really right
See a skinhead at a show
Let him know he's got to go
Fuck white power, the KKK
A-S-S-H-O-L-E!
Chorus
Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole
Mom and dad, the Grateful Dead
Major labels and straight edge
Coors and school and roller blades
God, Rick James and Oakley shades
Fishing, Wayne, silly jocks
Nazis, midgets, new tube socks
L.D. from M.R.&R.
And fucking Zeppelin Man
Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole
Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole
Hippies, harleys, Pearl Jam
Chili peppers, case of Spam
Riot grrls, Ponch and Jon
Squash and pork and carmel flan
We hate these things
We hate you, too
Go fuck a monkey in the zoo
Oscar Meyer has a way with
B.O.L.O.G.N.A.
(I apologize in advance if I got any of the lyrics wrong.)
Not necessarily. In some OO languages, the = operator can be overloaded; in fact, this is my big beef with OO languages is you don't know what the computer is doing (Simple expressions can be executing functions and the like, and this is extremely misleading). Plus, maybe in an old spec of some "Huge Integer" package, the undocumented x += value works as expected, but maybe in a new version, it might increase the precision instead or something.
I had a laptop that worked fine up until 1997, at which point it suddenly decided it was 2097. It used an OLD PhoenixBIOS I _think_. My only guess is that the BIOS clock-setting utility was designed to have Y2K support but used a century flag that happened to sit over some bit position they didn't foresee being in use :D
I post a verbatim copy of a letter I sent to the battlebots.com site and Heather Mayer, their attorney, below, which I believe should clarify what a corporation's "rights" seem to be:
... from our attorney" which
.com in
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 08:16:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: root@os.markbach.com
To: info@battlebots.com, press@battlebots.com, jason@battlebots.com,
roski@battlebots.com, young@battlebots.com, heather.mayer@lw.com
Cc: blyon@theshell.com
Subject: Re: battlebots.org
Dear Sirs/Madams:
I would like to start by informing you I am not involved with
battlebots.org or Mr. Lyon in any way, shape, or form. I simply
discovered his website. Therefore, anything I say should not, and must
not, be held against him or his website in any way, including all legal
proceedings. I also do not profess to be a certified expert on
the law, so you may wish to take my legal opinions with a grain of salt.
The examples I provide, however, should clarify my position and
observations.
On his website battlebots.org, Mr. Lyon has posted your
communications with him, to which I am replying.
Following are excerpts from a letter written by a Jason Cooper, in
quotes, followed by my own replies:
"We understand that you have received the cease and desist letter from our
attorney. Since this is a matter of great sensitivity to us, we are forced
to consider legal action to enjoin you from further use of the domain
name. However, we would also like to resolve the situation in the least
contentious manner possible under the circumstances."
[To Battlebots.com company, et al]
It is obvious you don't want to shoulder responsibility for this. You say
that you "understand that you have received
makes it sound as if "your" attorney has nothing to do with you
whatsoever. You also claim "this is a matter of great sensitivity" --- it
is common knowledge that a ".com" site is almost always more well-known,
more respected, and considered more authoritative than a ".org" site.
[To Battlebots.com company and Attorney Heather Mayer]
It seems your obsession with owning battlebots.org is based solely on the
U.S. law requiring a company owning a trademark to enforce its ownership.
On that note, Microsoft should have sued me at least several times by now.
I have said "Shut the windows*, there's a storm coming!" more times than I
can count. (*=In case you were unaware, Windows is a trademark of
Microsoft Corp.)
It seems obvious to me that trademark enforcement only applies to the
specific domain for which whatever is trademarked is applicable. In other
words, "Battlebots" refers to fighting robots --- *IF* battlebots.org was
a site about fighting robots, which it is most definitely *NOT*, you
should enforce your trademark on that term specific to that realm.
However, the site has nothing to do with the type of entertainment you
trademarked. In fact, the site has nothing to do with entertainment.
You may also note that "OpenOffice" has been trademarked, yet
openoffice.org, owned by Sun Microsystems and unaffiliated with the
company that trademarked "OpenOffice", continues to operate. On their
website, they specifically note the trademark issue, and say that there
site has nothing to do with OpenOffice, and officially is a site about
openoffice.org. (Yes, a website *about* a something that has the name of
a website. Confusing, isn't it? So are the U.S. trademark laws, ha!)
You also claim you would like to resolve this matter in "the least
contentious manner possible under the circumstances."
The circumstances are this: you want something that has nothing to do with
your trademark. Trademark is a compound word, consisting of "trade" and
"mark". You'll notice that battlebots.org and battlebots.com do not share
the same trade. This should make the circumstances, or lack thereof, very
easy to understand.
"As you will not be able to use the domain (battlebots.org) in any
fashion, we recommend that you transfer it to us immediately, and
BattleBots Inc. will reimburse you for the expense you incurred in
registering the name."
If my given birth name was Battlebots, and you made me change my name,
would reimbursement for the fees involved help me rebuild my reputation?
No.
If everybody who had ever done business with me knew I was named
Battlebots Williams and suddenly could not locate me, would you reimburse
me for the lost sales? It sure doesn't look that way.
Williams is a very common name. People would most likely know me as
Battlebots Williams, not as simply Mr. Williams.
Likewise, no seasoned user of the Internet would ever think of trying to
find AOL's homepage by simply looking through every single
existence. Battlebots.org is not uniquely identifiable as simply
something "dot-org."
"We're sorry for any inconvenience, but we must protect our US and
international trademarks and intellectual property."
The U.S. trademark system is designed to prevent your competitors from
stealing your business by using your name, provided you enforce your
ownership.
Mr. Lyon was not stealing your business.
Therefore, what enforcement needs to be done?
--theorangesquid
aka matt williams