I don't hate microsoft, i repect their business tactics, because they are just that, a business. And i respect the quailty products they market and make. I should not have to justify myself, but alas, i use a MS keyboard and mouse and many many microsoft software products. I like microsoft, as i do any company of the products i enjoy using.
I was mearly stating that in 6 years, i expected more from a company i respect. I understand what the term beta implies, but frankly the original testing builds of the software seemed to be more ground breaking.
I was looking forward to screenshots of something great from microsoft, and instead i recived something mediocre.
I dont know if it was misinterpretation, or the reaction of a zealot, but never the less i like microsoft, and it was BECUASE of that fact that i am dissapointed. Infact i remeber saying at one point in what i wrote that i dont hate microsoft, and make a joke about it. Infact it now seems possible that i was being flamed by a person who infact didn't read my second post.
But seriously, i say that because i was really actually looking forward to something new and dareing from microsoft.
They let me and themselves down.
Frankly it looks like Windows XP with a new UI and alpha tranceparancy.
Actually, come to think of it i cannot in words exspress my dissapointment. I don't hate microsoft (thats a mod down) but i'm starting to think they that why linux and mac zelots say is actually grounded by some evidence.
Common Microsoft, wheres the new File System, the, the sidebar with add-ins, the new user experience?
Please don't tell your customers we waited 6 years for a new desktop theme and background.
I agree, to an extend, and i was infact going to place this in my argument, as anyone would know a web interface would be entirely cross platform.
Though what i feel held the government back from this is security reasons, possibly unfounded but worth considering.For government offecials Internet=Hackers=Bad. Its a sad fact that they chose a direction that is essentially no different, aside from some software based features.
In so doing, you support my argument to an extend, as a cross platform migration would not be needed if they setup a secure web interface.
Personally, i trust what has been made avaliable and last year i found after a small trial that using the e-tax system is only slightly faster and more convienient than the hard-copy version. But thats just my opinion.
I know im going to get modded as a Troll for this *sigh*
But seriously, why does anyone care, im for cross platform software as much as anyone. And I can see the relevance of this issue if we were dealing with a common day usage piece of software, but we are talking about a tax system that gets used once a year.
I understand the governments position in the issue, that by providing for windows they are providing for the larger portion of citizens with computers, whether we like it or not.
Im sure with some more time in development the system could be written or ported to other operating systems, but I ask is this really necessary?
In Australia you can easily lodge you tax information on paper in about the same amount of time. And if you wish to use e-tax then it is a matter of dropping into your relative's house for a use of their windows based machine.
I know all of this seems a long winded excuse for not having cross platform support, but for a little used program that because of this choice already supports most of the population is such cross platform support a necessity or are we protecting for comfort.
I hardly think that more tax payers money needs to be spent employing people to port the program, and please don't scream community development because I defiantly wouldn't like my tax information to be lodged using a program ported by the community, no matter the quality. I'm sure that almost 100% of people wishing to use e-tax could find some access to a Windows platform once a year.
What is done, is done. It's not the optimal approach and the point of this post is to seek a better environment for cross platform users, but I simply believe that program aesthetics aside, what we have is all we need; anything more is what we want.
They want progress in the opposite direction.
They believe that only by destabilizing wesstern nations aiming for peace will their extreamist islamic world-order ever happen.
What they are to, dare i say, ignorant to see is that every time they deal us with a relativly small attack, even though such an attack is regretable, they only provide us with more reason to unite and strengthen.
"The study found 198 wars between non-democracies, 155 wars between democracies and non-democracies, and 0 wars between democracies."
Hopefully, eventually, whether or not every nation becomes a democracy i forsee two possible outcomes:
1. The evil of the world will distroy itself leaving only peace
2. Evil regimes and way of thinking will stagnate and die from either lack of support, funding, economy, realisation or the force of peaceful nations.
This of course will take considerable time, but if one looks deeply into the progress the UN has made, without bias, and the progress of western nations if somewhat raising living standards to the best of their ability in commonly warlord governed states where charity is often absorbed, you will see progress is being made.
The world will not destory itself, and i regret to say, but terrorist attacks on western nations only unites us under a common goal and the thurtherment of peace.
It's a sad realisty, but unless the terrorists can deafeat democracy and freedom in one go, then every time they strike on relativly small scales they will only strength free peoples resolve.
This has to be about the 10th time i have seen the whole "Windows can be compramised in [insert time here]" deal.
Anyone who actively follows the news and comments on slashot should know by now that windows is open to attack. And secondly i would hope that anyone who has the least bit of common sense would realise the viruses exist and that if you dont take neccisarry precations such as patching your version of windows.
Let me make it staight. Windows has security issues, it gets viruses, and other malware. Get over it. Get onto doing something about it. stop scareing thepublic and educate people on ways of being protected.
Was that a female....building a starwars model from lego. and it looks to me like she did it fast then the two guys.
Good show to the makes of the vid it was a good waste fo a few minutes.
If you RTFA you would have realised that they were not talking about parasites or corss species cooperation but infact the social organisation and development somewhat contradictory to darwins theory. Many animals from humans to penguins cooperate and group instead of competeing amoungst one another. It can also be seen as more evidence for darwin since it is logical to assume that over many thousands of years many species realised that What is be for themselves is generally best for the group and that they have a better chance of passing on their DNA if they protect each other.
The difference with humans is of course that we do this at such a high level with extreamly complex relations ships which according to the article is because of our ability to remeber much better then other animals which memebers of a group are of much more value in the way of good or bad. Let alone taking into account the various empotions humans have.
The point of the question though lies with the fact that some species chose one of two possible paths, we chose a compedative but mainly group cooperative behaviour while many many other species choose to act without and recourse for a group and act on the very fundamentals of darwins teachings, that the very fitest survive. Another part of the question lies with another fact of human behaviour and that athough evoultionary it may seem clear that it is wise to help a group in things such as defence and food, but what cannot be explained is that in many cases humans are willing to risk their lives for others at the ultimate price of their own life, such as helping a stranger who is drowning in a freezing pond. You don't know the stranger, and you cannot identify how cooperating with him will allow you survive but nether the less you help.
So you dont wnat RSS intergrated into windows and future ie version (ignoring firefox for a second)?
I'm sorry, i dont like MS's business tactics, but im not such a blind hater that i cant see good developement when it is made, abiet slowly compared to other browsers.
For the sake of us all, hate ms as much as you like, call them slow, but dont discredit progress that offers features for consumers abroad.
Windows has the handy ability to group similar programs in the taskbar, alot of people put this function down, but i find it invaluable to be able to manage large groups of windows at the same time. Its like tabs, inside tabs, abeit in the task bar.
wait...so the rats didnt kill your grandpa? and the frogs arnt part of the mob?
Ohhhh now i remeber this movie, its the one where they put the virus in the mothership and everything explodes.
Sorry is it just me or did i not get your point.
The ad shows a young girl clicling a massive red button labled "download movie", then shows children stealing items from shops and people. It then returns to the young girl on a computer who click cancle download and prceeds to tell us "Downloading Movies is a crime"
I and my friends, possibly the only minority in the country capable of actually sourceing movies from the internet, compared to the majority of the popualtion who simply buy them at the saturday markets from shady asian stalls, laughed our asses off at a horrible waste of money, time and assets to try ant stop copywrite infringers.
It shows how little grasp the organisations hold on the issue, instead of taking advantage of a new business opertunity they instead try to kill it, and in doing so waste vast amounts of money doing literally shit all.
I was somewhat offended that people with the same skills as me with the use of bittorrent who choose to break the law were supposed to be influenced to change their ways because a young girl clicked a big red cancel button.
BTW, i have seen the british ones on british videos i have hired, i remeber a rather large man half naked throwing video cassets into a fire while some dark music played, followed by a copyright hotline. Everytime i see these and other forms of copyright propoganda i cant help but piss myself laughing.
Heres and idea for the media organiseations. Stop sueing people, and producing pointless and hilarious ads, save the money and use it to knock down the price of media a bit, embarce a new online markey more openly then has already been sucessfully done with itunes, and i gurentee you will reep the rewards.
BTW, one quick question, why is it illegal to copy material we legaly own? Where has the distinction gone? I believe as of yet i do not licence CD's of DVD's i have bough from their owners, i believe infact that i physically own it and the data on it, the organisations own the talent. So exactly between where does ownership and copyright merge into one hazy goop?
Over here in Australia we have Telstra, they actually own a portal to hell, they are pretty evil, but to send a squad of rats to take out a powercable causing much of a country to loose its communications tops the list...
It did decrease our workoad, the only thing we didnt forsee was that it would inevitably mean we could do more things in less amount of time, which was our choice, not the computers.
If you look at the world fact book cia edition, it states that the technological revolution of the late 20th century has caused less and less people to be involved in the production of our food.
As for the question if we are happy or not, i once posed this to my great grandparents and grandparent before they died, both stated that they are happier, and that life is easier, which i take with much respect considered they saw the whole scope of advancement of the previous century.
As for less human contact, i will pay that, but a catch twenty-two is that with the advent of email to video chat a whole new door of closeness bewen eachother has opened up. It may seem insignificant, but im sure you have all felt it....online, whether you would admit it, you feel more open, and more youself, since prejudice is non-existant.
It did increase efficency, and decrease our work load, just ask any economist about the missing parallels between societies using and not using computers. As stated before it has just allowed us to do more in less time. Another corilation is that it has moved us from more hard labour to a more mind straining field of operation.
Thats just me 2 cents.
The materialistic things that i most enjoy in my life are a product of your invention. Man kind would not be where it is without you.
Thank You and rest in peace.
I'm a high school student, and while I ponder in class, as one does, i always imagine a prospect for business in interactive whiteboards.
I imagined a large whiteboard 3 meters wide by 1 or 2 meters high made of a flat screen like an lcd at a low cost especially since in most cases moderate resolution and refresh-rates will do, or any other technology capable though not a projector. The screen would then be laced with a touch sensitive layer like that of tablet PCs
Then using the same principal as tablet PC's i.e. a stylus: shaped exactly like a whiteboard marker to interact with the board. I also imagine a luxury edition would have some sot of glove reminiscent of the one from The Minority Report to allow teachers to manipulate objects on the board from specific hand movements such as grabbing and dragging.
The system would then run on a custom platform capable of the following features: text formatting, image manipulation, intelligent recognition of 3d and 2d shapes and subsequent 3d manipulation and scaling, internet access, flow chart recognition and video/music display. Of course all these functions would need to be available first hand in very minimal complexities for teacher to quickly understand and make use of them. Another feature could be the ability to recall exact setup from previous lessons onto the screen for the current lesson, such as video location or written text.
Basically you have you standard large whiteboard replaced with a same size touch sensitive lcd/other flat-screen with a stylus instead of marker, capable of information manifestation and manipulation. And running specifically designed software to be unobtrusive, simple yet powerful. Imagine a wall sized whiteboard replaced by a tablet pc.
If there is any use for this besides the cost, it is the trouble some students have with visualising congruent figures and similar 3d shapes, where the ability for a intelligent whiteboard to recognise a 3d shapes and allow the teacher to flip/rotate it would be invaluable.
The only downside is the cost of developing such a device and the actual product cost. I would think that developing a very basic proprietary OS capable of touch sensitive input recognition (written recognition comes later) and large screen display would be more then enough to start with, the hardware could at first be very basic: a low resolution and low refresh-rate, "lcd like" and basic computer components.
The problem I have with the one that appeared in the article is that it worked on projection and recognising hand movements, and then using that data to interface with already built programs. Whereas my idea would be as simple as walking into a classroom, picking up the stylus from the desk, touching the dormant screen to activate it, entering any account information necessary and then simply writing as you would a normal board until such time as you needed extra tools such as text scaling to provide more room or the ability to show the class a video documentary where all that is required is to touch unobtrusive buttons located on the corners of the board to do quick formatting or to access simple media players.
He had sick ideas about racial purity, jews and value of human lives, he also made many misjudgements in Germany's strategy but he is not the idiot maniac so many Americans like to think he is. He actually cared for a rather large subset of Germans and avoided risking their lives unnecessarily.
Either way, he was still the most evil human to grace the face of the earth. And that inst a biased or sterotypical view.
Do kids these days even know multiplication tables without reaching for their cell phone's calculator app?
Do they need to know their multiplication times tables, if they have a cellphone?
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I don't hate microsoft, i repect their business tactics, because they are just that, a business. And i respect the quailty products they market and make. I should not have to justify myself, but alas, i use a MS keyboard and mouse and many many microsoft software products. I like microsoft, as i do any company of the products i enjoy using.
I was mearly stating that in 6 years, i expected more from a company i respect. I understand what the term beta implies, but frankly the original testing builds of the software seemed to be more ground breaking.
I was looking forward to screenshots of something great from microsoft, and instead i recived something mediocre.
I dont know if it was misinterpretation, or the reaction of a zealot, but never the less i like microsoft, and it was BECUASE of that fact that i am dissapointed. Infact i remeber saying at one point in what i wrote that i dont hate microsoft, and make a joke about it. Infact it now seems possible that i was being flamed by a person who infact didn't read my second post.
But seriously, i say that because i was really actually looking forward to something new and dareing from microsoft.
They let me and themselves down.
Frankly it looks like Windows XP with a new UI and alpha tranceparancy.
Actually, come to think of it i cannot in words exspress my dissapointment. I don't hate microsoft (thats a mod down) but i'm starting to think they that why linux and mac zelots say is actually grounded by some evidence.
Common Microsoft, wheres the new File System, the, the sidebar with add-ins, the new user experience?
Please don't tell your customers we waited 6 years for a new desktop theme and background.
You can put polish on a piece of shit, but you'll just end up with a shiny piece of shit.
I agree, to an extend, and i was infact going to place this in my argument, as anyone would know a web interface would be entirely cross platform.
Though what i feel held the government back from this is security reasons, possibly unfounded but worth considering.For government offecials Internet=Hackers=Bad. Its a sad fact that they chose a direction that is essentially no different, aside from some software based features.
In so doing, you support my argument to an extend, as a cross platform migration would not be needed if they setup a secure web interface.
Personally, i trust what has been made avaliable and last year i found after a small trial that using the e-tax system is only slightly faster and more convienient than the hard-copy version. But thats just my opinion.
I know im going to get modded as a Troll for this *sigh*
But seriously, why does anyone care, im for cross platform software as much as anyone. And I can see the relevance of this issue if we were dealing with a common day usage piece of software, but we are talking about a tax system that gets used once a year.
I understand the governments position in the issue, that by providing for windows they are providing for the larger portion of citizens with computers, whether we like it or not.
Im sure with some more time in development the system could be written or ported to other operating systems, but I ask is this really necessary?
In Australia you can easily lodge you tax information on paper in about the same amount of time. And if you wish to use e-tax then it is a matter of dropping into your relative's house for a use of their windows based machine.
I know all of this seems a long winded excuse for not having cross platform support, but for a little used program that because of this choice already supports most of the population is such cross platform support a necessity or are we protecting for comfort.
I hardly think that more tax payers money needs to be spent employing people to port the program, and please don't scream community development because I defiantly wouldn't like my tax information to be lodged using a program ported by the community, no matter the quality. I'm sure that almost 100% of people wishing to use e-tax could find some access to a Windows platform once a year.
What is done, is done. It's not the optimal approach and the point of this post is to seek a better environment for cross platform users, but I simply believe that program aesthetics aside, what we have is all we need; anything more is what we want.
They want progress in the opposite direction. They believe that only by destabilizing wesstern nations aiming for peace will their extreamist islamic world-order ever happen. What they are to, dare i say, ignorant to see is that every time they deal us with a relativly small attack, even though such an attack is regretable, they only provide us with more reason to unite and strengthen.
World peace is infact a possibility:
Quoteing Wikipedia
"The study found 198 wars between non-democracies, 155 wars between democracies and non-democracies, and 0 wars between democracies."
Hopefully, eventually, whether or not every nation becomes a democracy i forsee two possible outcomes:
1. The evil of the world will distroy itself leaving only peace
2. Evil regimes and way of thinking will stagnate and die from either lack of support, funding, economy, realisation or the force of peaceful nations.
This of course will take considerable time, but if one looks deeply into the progress the UN has made, without bias, and the progress of western nations if somewhat raising living standards to the best of their ability in commonly warlord governed states where charity is often absorbed, you will see progress is being made.
The world will not destory itself, and i regret to say, but terrorist attacks on western nations only unites us under a common goal and the thurtherment of peace.
It's a sad realisty, but unless the terrorists can deafeat democracy and freedom in one go, then every time they strike on relativly small scales they will only strength free peoples resolve.
This has to be about the 10th time i have seen the whole "Windows can be compramised in [insert time here]" deal.
Anyone who actively follows the news and comments on slashot should know by now that windows is open to attack. And secondly i would hope that anyone who has the least bit of common sense would realise the viruses exist and that if you dont take neccisarry precations such as patching your version of windows.
Let me make it staight.
Windows has security issues, it gets viruses, and other malware. Get over it. Get onto doing something about it. stop scareing thepublic and educate people on ways of being protected.
Was that a female....building a starwars model from lego. and it looks to me like she did it fast then the two guys. Good show to the makes of the vid it was a good waste fo a few minutes.
If you RTFA you would have realised that they were not talking about parasites or corss species cooperation but infact the social organisation and development somewhat contradictory to darwins theory. Many animals from humans to penguins cooperate and group instead of competeing amoungst one another. It can also be seen as more evidence for darwin since it is logical to assume that over many thousands of years many species realised that What is be for themselves is generally best for the group and that they have a better chance of passing on their DNA if they protect each other.
The difference with humans is of course that we do this at such a high level with extreamly complex relations ships which according to the article is because of our ability to remeber much better then other animals which memebers of a group are of much more value in the way of good or bad. Let alone taking into account the various empotions humans have.
The point of the question though lies with the fact that some species chose one of two possible paths, we chose a compedative but mainly group cooperative behaviour while many many other species choose to act without and recourse for a group and act on the very fundamentals of darwins teachings, that the very fitest survive. Another part of the question lies with another fact of human behaviour and that athough evoultionary it may seem clear that it is wise to help a group in things such as defence and food, but what cannot be explained is that in many cases humans are willing to risk their lives for others at the ultimate price of their own life, such as helping a stranger who is drowning in a freezing pond. You don't know the stranger, and you cannot identify how cooperating with him will allow you survive but nether the less you help.
So you dont wnat RSS intergrated into windows and future ie version (ignoring firefox for a second)?
I'm sorry, i dont like MS's business tactics, but im not such a blind hater that i cant see good developement when it is made, abiet slowly compared to other browsers.
For the sake of us all, hate ms as much as you like, call them slow, but dont discredit progress that offers features for consumers abroad.
Windows has the handy ability to group similar programs in the taskbar, alot of people put this function down, but i find it invaluable to be able to manage large groups of windows at the same time. Its like tabs, inside tabs, abeit in the task bar.
wait...so the rats didnt kill your grandpa? and the frogs arnt part of the mob? Ohhhh now i remeber this movie, its the one where they put the virus in the mothership and everything explodes. Sorry is it just me or did i not get your point.
They are horrible down here too in Australia
The ad shows a young girl clicling a massive red button labled "download movie", then shows children stealing items from shops and people. It then returns to the young girl on a computer who click cancle download and prceeds to tell us "Downloading Movies is a crime"
I and my friends, possibly the only minority in the country capable of actually sourceing movies from the internet, compared to the majority of the popualtion who simply buy them at the saturday markets from shady asian stalls, laughed our asses off at a horrible waste of money, time and assets to try ant stop copywrite infringers.
It shows how little grasp the organisations hold on the issue, instead of taking advantage of a new business opertunity they instead try to kill it, and in doing so waste vast amounts of money doing literally shit all.
I was somewhat offended that people with the same skills as me with the use of bittorrent who choose to break the law were supposed to be influenced to change their ways because a young girl clicked a big red cancel button.
BTW, i have seen the british ones on british videos i have hired, i remeber a rather large man half naked throwing video cassets into a fire while some dark music played, followed by a copyright hotline. Everytime i see these and other forms of copyright propoganda i cant help but piss myself laughing.
Heres and idea for the media organiseations. Stop sueing people, and producing pointless and hilarious ads, save the money and use it to knock down the price of media a bit, embarce a new online markey more openly then has already been sucessfully done with itunes, and i gurentee you will reep the rewards.
BTW, one quick question, why is it illegal to copy material we legaly own? Where has the distinction gone? I believe as of yet i do not licence CD's of DVD's i have bough from their owners, i believe infact that i physically own it and the data on it, the organisations own the talent. So exactly between where does ownership and copyright merge into one hazy goop?
Over here in Australia we have Telstra, they actually own a portal to hell, they are pretty evil, but to send a squad of rats to take out a powercable causing much of a country to loose its communications tops the list...
And all the while we Australians sat and watched as the new zealand civilisation crumbled in the darkness
Phase one of our takeover is complete....
Now it is time for the invasion!
Go rats, destroy the new zealanders, and there will be limitless piles of cheese for all!
It did decrease our workoad, the only thing we didnt forsee was that it would inevitably mean we could do more things in less amount of time, which was our choice, not the computers. If you look at the world fact book cia edition, it states that the technological revolution of the late 20th century has caused less and less people to be involved in the production of our food. As for the question if we are happy or not, i once posed this to my great grandparents and grandparent before they died, both stated that they are happier, and that life is easier, which i take with much respect considered they saw the whole scope of advancement of the previous century. As for less human contact, i will pay that, but a catch twenty-two is that with the advent of email to video chat a whole new door of closeness bewen eachother has opened up. It may seem insignificant, but im sure you have all felt it....online, whether you would admit it, you feel more open, and more youself, since prejudice is non-existant. It did increase efficency, and decrease our work load, just ask any economist about the missing parallels between societies using and not using computers. As stated before it has just allowed us to do more in less time. Another corilation is that it has moved us from more hard labour to a more mind straining field of operation. Thats just me 2 cents.
The materialistic things that i most enjoy in my life are a product of your invention. Man kind would not be where it is without you. Thank You and rest in peace.
Theres no life on other worlds, heretic! The earth is flat, its the center of the universe and it took 7 days to build.
I'm a high school student, and while I ponder in class, as one does, i always imagine a prospect for business in interactive whiteboards. I imagined a large whiteboard 3 meters wide by 1 or 2 meters high made of a flat screen like an lcd at a low cost especially since in most cases moderate resolution and refresh-rates will do, or any other technology capable though not a projector. The screen would then be laced with a touch sensitive layer like that of tablet PCs Then using the same principal as tablet PC's i.e. a stylus: shaped exactly like a whiteboard marker to interact with the board. I also imagine a luxury edition would have some sot of glove reminiscent of the one from The Minority Report to allow teachers to manipulate objects on the board from specific hand movements such as grabbing and dragging. The system would then run on a custom platform capable of the following features: text formatting, image manipulation, intelligent recognition of 3d and 2d shapes and subsequent 3d manipulation and scaling, internet access, flow chart recognition and video/music display. Of course all these functions would need to be available first hand in very minimal complexities for teacher to quickly understand and make use of them. Another feature could be the ability to recall exact setup from previous lessons onto the screen for the current lesson, such as video location or written text. Basically you have you standard large whiteboard replaced with a same size touch sensitive lcd/other flat-screen with a stylus instead of marker, capable of information manifestation and manipulation. And running specifically designed software to be unobtrusive, simple yet powerful. Imagine a wall sized whiteboard replaced by a tablet pc. If there is any use for this besides the cost, it is the trouble some students have with visualising congruent figures and similar 3d shapes, where the ability for a intelligent whiteboard to recognise a 3d shapes and allow the teacher to flip/rotate it would be invaluable. The only downside is the cost of developing such a device and the actual product cost. I would think that developing a very basic proprietary OS capable of touch sensitive input recognition (written recognition comes later) and large screen display would be more then enough to start with, the hardware could at first be very basic: a low resolution and low refresh-rate, "lcd like" and basic computer components. The problem I have with the one that appeared in the article is that it worked on projection and recognising hand movements, and then using that data to interface with already built programs. Whereas my idea would be as simple as walking into a classroom, picking up the stylus from the desk, touching the dormant screen to activate it, entering any account information necessary and then simply writing as you would a normal board until such time as you needed extra tools such as text scaling to provide more room or the ability to show the class a video documentary where all that is required is to touch unobtrusive buttons located on the corners of the board to do quick formatting or to access simple media players.
The way MS are going right now, it sounds like you'll be removing data....
i saw that once in Star Trek Voyager, so yes, its defiently possible.
He had sick ideas about racial purity, jews and value of human lives, he also made many misjudgements in Germany's strategy but he is not the idiot maniac so many Americans like to think he is. He actually cared for a rather large subset of Germans and avoided risking their lives unnecessarily. Either way, he was still the most evil human to grace the face of the earth. And that inst a biased or sterotypical view.
Do kids these days even know multiplication tables without reaching for their cell phone's calculator app? Do they need to know their multiplication times tables, if they have a cellphone?
ahahaha yeh your right i cant. but if u did read my statement u might catch the jist of my argument.