Microsoft lies through their teeth whenever they talk about adhering to any standard. When will the world wake and realize they are sham and just want their crap software everywhere - no matter who it hurts.
I hope no one attends and maybe then they will quit getting these microsoft employees spilling their lines at these unix events.
You still have to go and get training for their configuration manager. So why train your people on actually configuring the components that make up the stack. Your company will be better off and they will certainly learn a lot more than just that one company's configuration manager.
I don't know maybe I am missing something but keep it simple folks quit making things a lot more difficult than they really are.
how the article never mentions the drm that is involved. that is the only reason the mpaa choose microsoft because they sold them drm
so now they tell you what to do with the movies you are paying for.
I see flop. big big flop. I already have this with a tv card in my pc why would I buy this and I don't have drm and so I can make as many copies of tv shows as I want. but now we are going to get drm shoved down our throats because that is how the movie industry is going to sell their product. they want our homes to be just like going to the movie show. you pay everytime you watch the movie.
there should be no cosolidation. I like choice and it is the natural check and balance system of open source.
Whether who is the best or most popular or who bought who is irrelevant. Companies just need to choose one as their standard and stick with it. Companies everyday choose one window application to do a task as a standard when there could be tons of choices.
"However, he cautioned, the studio's entry into the Internet sphere must be accompanied by fail-safe methods to prevent the films from being copied and redistributed."
I bet this failsafe method will only run on windows. must be the same drm that windows is using on iptv.
""We are disappointed in not only your failure to consider our proposals but also at the clear lack of urgency in implementing a strategic plan,""
Gee maybe if they weren't busy trying to defend their business in frivolous lawsuits like sco then maybe they could concentrate and spend money on their actual business.
Sounds like to me just a blowhard that either sco or microsoft or sun got a hold of to distract the company from the issues at hand.
I fully support Novell in what they are they doing. Just because their busines model doesn't meet the standards of a convicted monopolist doesn't mean a thing. I got some of the longest uptimes on my servers from SUSE linux. To me that is what makes a business model. Fricken reliability - what a concept.
Their NDS still rocks and runs on any platform. It blows Microsoft AD crap away.
I am still waiting on sco's response to novell which I believe should be coming up real soon.
I have to agree with you - I don't see what the Apple attraction is besides their hardware. I have a Imac 266 256 meg of ram for my daughter - I got Ubuntu/Apple os9 on it and it runs quite nicely.
I do like their hardware but I don't get what the software attraction is. Yes they did things right with os x in making it unix like - but I can install ubuntu on it and have the same thing and it runs a lot quicker.
I like having the ability to turn shadows off and on along with transparencies.
sometimes I want those things sometimes I do.
No company can achieve what Linux has - it can run on anything from a watch to a mainframe. How powerful is that?
It is ashame that apple is ditching power - I happen to like the power and if this drm and tcpa gets out of hand (like intel puts it on the board and I can't install linux on a pc if it originally had windows on it) I will seriously consider buying a power pc.
I do think apple puts out better software than windows but I think Linux and open source puts out the best.
What is the difference between following apple's upgrade cycle madness versus windows upgrade madness. None I can see they will both leave you with less money in your pocket.
I put jaguar on my daughter's computer but since they dropped support and patching for it I got rid of it and now I just run apple os 9 since most of her games run on os 9 (without networking) and linux - I am currently working on getting os 9 to run inside of linux to get rid of the dual boot - but it's not high on my priority list right now and I will get around to it eventually.
this has been coming for months - DRM, TCPA - isn't it great - now there is going to be great iptv with the same drm crap that probably the MPAA and RIAA are forcing on the content providers.
I say don't buy the crap - show them we will not stand for are rights being digitally managed - make them go bankrupt and spend the money on doing some family fun stuff. screw them and their movies we don't need them and never did. I hope the sob's go bankrupt and have to sell at least two of their houses.
I guarantee that their goal is to get out of warranty work.
Gee our onstar shows you didn't do the subscribe 1000 dollar maintenance PERFORMED BY US - sorry you have to pay 5000 to fix your car.
This could be the start of the throw away car - you know the same way people throw away their computers when they become infested with spyware, addware and other crap. It costs more to fix it than to buy a new computer. So just buy a new computer.
This is the microsoft way of thinking that has been put on our society by the wonderful software company. Just throw it away and pay us more for a new one.
Mod me down or whatever but this is where they are going with this.
I see a company on the way down and out. They are patenting stuff just to stay alive. Now their next great hope is the proprietary codecs and drm and trusted computing - hoping to lock people in to the hardware so you can't do anything with it except pay them for features you want unlocked.
They probably think that the versions are a good marketing tactic. After all they are a pretty marketing company.
Just go learn open source now and save yourself a bunch of headaches down the road. I did years ago and now I just sit back and LOL at microsoft.
You can live without Windows - they just don't want you to know that.
but I don't really think this is helping any. The real thieves are still going to steal and they will never catch them.
all this is doing is tarnishing their reputation with the honest buying music people.
I still just buy cds and make copies and keep the original in a safe spot. I will not buy anything online just because I do not know how they determine how you are stealing and I just don't feel like dealing with lawyers and the possibility of getting sued. I am currently working on moving my records to cd - will they sound as good as if I bought a cd - probably not - but I get the satisfaction of not giving my money again to these so-called-legal crooks.
Here is a few suggestions for the riaa/mpaa and I think it will save them money.
Why don't they just create their own music store where they charge $.50 a song or $5.00 an album and $10.00 for any specialty album or double album. And have this without any drm or make the drm they use available on ALL platforms - Unix, Windows, Apple. This has got to be less expensive than all these lawsuits and the ill-will that is created. Second, MPAA should do the same with DVD players make one for ALL platforms as above.
I truely believe that if they did this this would put a bigger dent into stealing than all of these lawsuits.
does any of this really surprise anybody. it is microsoft pretending to be getting along with the industry open standards and then they will come along and make their own so they can lock people in and keep the revenue stream coming in.
now especially with IPTV and all the drm crap they are making with the MPAA/RIAA it is obvious where they are going along with apple. You are obviously going to have to have the platform THEY choose to view their movies/tv.
Umm, I wonder if it will stop with just movies and tv - you think I will be able to install linux on the new vista pcs.
The IPTV and the drm with music and movies is just the DVDCss all over again. You have to have a platform THEY choose for you and if you don't well tough - you can view or buy their content.
""To be candid, he sort of moved into this moving propeller," said Mr. Perry, a former Orange County judge. He said courts would likely focus on how Mr. Wall responded to requests to remove material from his site, and Mr. Wall's criticism of Traffic-Power.com. "The Internet is not your personal stump to beat up people.""
wrong try again - it called freedom of speech -
like I can say microsoft sucks and is a convicted monopolists that uses strongarm tactics to undermine the open standards in the industry.
I also can say Linux rocks.
since when are we going to sensor what people say on the internet. I tell people all day that microsoft sucks - so you are telling me I can get sued for that. Can we all say Back in the USSR. There I knew you could.
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" it was considered nothing more than a slow operating environment that had arrived late to the party, well behind the industry leaders,"
and still is today!!
Microsoft lies through their teeth whenever they talk about adhering to any standard. When will the world wake and realize they are sham and just want their crap software everywhere - no matter who it hurts.
I hope no one attends and maybe then they will quit getting these microsoft employees spilling their lines at these unix events.
a news organization that actually tells both sides of the story. Including the citizens that it supposedly sells too.
what a concept
You still have to go and get training for their configuration manager. So why train your people on actually configuring the components that make up the stack. Your company will be better off and they will certainly learn a lot more than just that one company's configuration manager.
I don't know maybe I am missing something but keep it simple folks quit making things a lot more difficult than they really are.
Just my two cents worth.
ya you are right about that - pbs is the only one to really get the news from. every other news is enterntainment and crap too
how the article never mentions the drm that is involved.
that is the only reason the mpaa choose microsoft because they sold them drm
so now they tell you what to do with the movies you are paying for.
I see flop. big big flop. I already have this with a tv card in my pc why would I buy this and I don't have drm and so I can make as many copies of tv shows as I want. but now we are going to get drm shoved down our throats because that is how the movie industry is going to sell their product. they want our homes to be just like going to the movie show. you pay everytime you watch the movie.
have fun folks - I won't be buying.
great situation for microsoft damned if you do damned if you don't
I would suggest to them a rewriting of their os to make it secure from the get go instead of just piling on crap onto crap.
too bad for all the companies out there that wrote software for windows - looks like they are going to have a rough time of it in years to come.
to me tv is crap anyway - I only use it to watch news and sports anything else is crap -
there should be no cosolidation. I like choice and it is the natural check and balance system of open source.
Whether who is the best or most popular or who bought who is irrelevant. Companies just need to choose one as their standard and stick with it. Companies everyday choose one window application to do a task as a standard when there could be tons of choices.
choice good - consolidation bad.
"However, he cautioned, the studio's entry into the Internet sphere must be accompanied by fail-safe methods to prevent the films from being copied and redistributed."
I bet this failsafe method will only run on windows. must be the same drm that windows is using on iptv.
using IE6 will never ever lock you and or your company into one single software company.
I just think we should just give total media control to the RIAA and MPAA and be done with it.
I just sick of hearing about the greedy bastards.
Pretty soon they are going to go after the written word.
fsck off riaa and mpaa take that and copyright it where the sun doesn't shine.
that movies and iptv will play because of drm and tcpa and all the patented crappy codecs.
can't wait to put linux on their new intel hardware.
this is the most useless article I have read.
I have read it and still don't know what to make of it. He doesn't really define a vulnerability first of all.
If anything this tells me firefox is being actively developed and improved and is easily upgradeable.
I think Microsoft is just putting security updates out and not improvements. So it makes me wonder what he defines a vulnerability.
""We are disappointed in not only your failure to consider our proposals but also at the clear lack of urgency in implementing a strategic plan,""
Gee maybe if they weren't busy trying to defend their business in frivolous lawsuits like sco then maybe they could concentrate and spend money on their actual business.
Sounds like to me just a blowhard that either sco or microsoft or sun got a hold of to distract the company from the issues at hand.
I fully support Novell in what they are they doing. Just because their busines model doesn't meet the standards of a convicted monopolist doesn't mean a thing. I got some of the longest uptimes on my servers from SUSE linux. To me that is what makes a business model. Fricken reliability - what a concept.
Their NDS still rocks and runs on any platform. It blows Microsoft AD crap away.
I am still waiting on sco's response to novell which I believe should be coming up real soon.
I have to agree with you - I don't see what the Apple attraction is besides their hardware. I have a Imac 266 256 meg of ram for my daughter - I got Ubuntu/Apple os9 on it and it runs quite nicely.
I do like their hardware but I don't get what the software attraction is. Yes they did things right with os x in making it unix like - but I can install ubuntu on it and have the same thing and it runs a lot quicker.
I like having the ability to turn shadows off and on along with transparencies.
sometimes I want those things sometimes I do.
No company can achieve what Linux has - it can run on anything from a watch to a mainframe. How powerful is that?
It is ashame that apple is ditching power - I happen to like the power and if this drm and tcpa gets out of hand (like intel puts it on the board and I can't install linux on a pc if it originally had windows on it) I will seriously consider buying a power pc.
I do think apple puts out better software than windows but I think Linux and open source puts out the best.
What is the difference between following apple's upgrade cycle madness versus windows upgrade madness. None I can see they will both leave you with less money in your pocket.
I put jaguar on my daughter's computer but since they dropped support and patching for it I got rid of it and now I just run apple os 9 since most of her games run on os 9 (without networking) and linux - I am currently working on getting os 9 to run inside of linux to get rid of the dual boot - but it's not high on my priority list right now and I will get around to it eventually.
this has been coming for months - DRM, TCPA - isn't it great - now there is going to be great iptv with the same drm crap that probably the MPAA and RIAA are forcing on the content providers.
I say don't buy the crap - show them we will not stand for are rights being digitally managed - make them go bankrupt and spend the money on doing some family fun stuff. screw them and their movies we don't need them and never did. I hope the sob's go bankrupt and have to sell at least two of their houses.
I guarantee that their goal is to get out of warranty work.
Gee our onstar shows you didn't do the subscribe 1000 dollar maintenance PERFORMED BY US - sorry you have to pay 5000 to fix your car.
This could be the start of the throw away car - you know the same way people throw away their computers when they become infested with spyware, addware and other crap. It costs more to fix it than to buy a new computer. So just buy a new computer.
This is the microsoft way of thinking that has been put on our society by the wonderful software company. Just throw it away and pay us more for a new one.
Mod me down or whatever but this is where they are going with this.
I think I will go get the 400 dollars out of pocket and go buy a copy.
can't wait can't wait.
I see a company on the way down and out. They are patenting stuff just to stay alive. Now their next great hope is the proprietary codecs and drm and trusted computing - hoping to lock people in to the hardware so you can't do anything with it except pay them for features you want unlocked.
They probably think that the versions are a good marketing tactic. After all they are a pretty marketing company.
Just go learn open source now and save yourself a bunch of headaches down the road. I did years ago and now I just sit back and LOL at microsoft.
You can live without Windows - they just don't want you to know that.
you are an idiot - it is because of people like you that this problem exist -
standards exist - deal with it - and if they are willing to run their site on linux then they should support linux.
isn't java the write once run everywhere language that wonderful sun promotes?
there is no excuse to write a website to one browser - write to standards and deal with it.
it is possible to write to every browser and os - that is why standards exist -
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http%3A%2 F%2Fwww.fema.gov
according to this link their site is running linux but yet they require internet explorer.
are they retarded or what?
gee - lets make the web a client server application just like the 80's.
what fricken idiots
I wish someone would bring a lawsuit.
but I don't really think this is helping any. The real thieves are still going to steal and they will never catch them.
all this is doing is tarnishing their reputation with the honest buying music people.
I still just buy cds and make copies and keep the original in a safe spot. I will not buy anything online just because I do not know how they determine how you are stealing and I just don't feel like dealing with lawyers and the possibility of getting sued. I am currently working on moving my records to cd - will they sound as good as if I bought a cd - probably not - but I get the satisfaction of not giving my money again to these so-called-legal crooks.
Here is a few suggestions for the riaa/mpaa and I think it will save them money.
Why don't they just create their own music store where they charge $.50 a song or $5.00 an album and $10.00 for any specialty album or double album. And have this without any drm or make the drm they use available on ALL platforms - Unix, Windows, Apple. This has got to be less expensive than all these lawsuits and the ill-will that is created. Second, MPAA should do the same with DVD players make one for ALL platforms as above.
I truely believe that if they did this this would put a bigger dent into stealing than all of these lawsuits.
does any of this really surprise anybody. it is microsoft pretending to be getting along with the industry open standards and then they will come along and make their own so they can lock people in and keep the revenue stream coming in.
now especially with IPTV and all the drm crap they are making with the MPAA/RIAA it is obvious where they are going along with apple. You are obviously going to have to have the platform THEY choose to view their movies/tv.
Umm, I wonder if it will stop with just movies and tv - you think I will be able to install linux on the new vista pcs.
The IPTV and the drm with music and movies is just the DVDCss all over again. You have to have a platform THEY choose for you and if you don't well tough - you can view or buy their content.
Boy who would of seen this coming.
""To be candid, he sort of moved into this moving propeller," said Mr. Perry, a former Orange County judge. He said courts would likely focus on how Mr. Wall responded to requests to remove material from his site, and Mr. Wall's criticism of Traffic-Power.com. "The Internet is not your personal stump to beat up people.""
wrong try again - it called freedom of speech -
like I can say microsoft sucks and is a convicted monopolists that uses strongarm tactics to undermine the open standards in the industry.
I also can say Linux rocks.
since when are we going to sensor what people say on the internet. I tell people all day that microsoft sucks - so you are telling me I can get sued for that. Can we all say Back in the USSR. There I knew you could.