Linux executable size is larger due to visibility issues with a pre 4.0 gcc. It keeps certain symbols from being removed that should be. I still wouldn't doubt that windows would have a smaller executable though.
If I had to choose a free operating system for my financial instituion I would hope it would be openbsd which is geared at 95 percent security and 5 percent functionailty. Not 1 percent of user friendly-ness.
Openbsd should be used alot more in financial institutions by people that know what they are doing. Openbsd has more security based code than any os and if you say otherwise then you have obviously never tried it. It has the ability to setup more redundancy than any OS.
Openbsd isn't a desktop OS for the masses either but I guess thats your freebsd plug;)
I know he deserves troll for cursing but the idea of pushing pollution on to the less fortunate is a far greater tradegy than some cursing. Mod grandparent a troll instead..
DOS has always been a single process OS and that seems to be very useful for a slow system. DOS is blazing fast for your text-based or simple device interface. It doesn't waste alot of time doing multi-threaded applications with the extra processing time or memory for thread-based variables. A database on dos would even be fine as long as the database set up its own thread implementation. For a POS terminal dos would only need to do one thing: recieve input and ask for output.
I bet the overhead of embedded windows/linux would be fine for a decent 100mhz processor but why overkill? An ATM could run on a 286 with as little work as it actually does (you know the atm is really asking a bunch of big computers to do the work for them. (It doesn't even do the math calculations b/c that would be a security risk).
I think Dos will continue to be a great OS for real simple embedded applications and hope it continues to be used for such. I bet the internal workings of space rockets still use DOS on their 386 system computers.
Well done response but it only tends to suggest that if java itself isn't coded well then a bad program can cause stack smashing. If java allows a programmer to cause a problem then its java's fault. Everything is an object and I don't believe that a java program should ever reach (or can possibly) out of the jvm's memory range. In fact it can't address memory outright at all. Its all done via relationships of objects. This will limit a java programs ability to leak memory from another program.
If java is coded well (which means that its coded well in C by good programmers) and the fact you can't grab memory absolutely or anything else except relationship-wise, then java seems pretty self contained. In fact a java program shouldn't be able to touch another java's memory(hopefully).
The only thing I think could make a java program insecure is if I C program attacks a jvm specific problem. ie. java itself wasn't coded well.
I hope you are not talking about swt or functions outside of java like windows api. You can't simply expect java to do everything under the sun(pun).
On note to the grandparent, C is only more secure in that a very adept programmer can control any aspect of the program he wants to. Even still you rely on libraries many times creating even a simple program.
I would bet that a java program would be more secure than a C program in that fact that C just leaves you out there. Java has security features built in whether or not you use them.
The only way to make something like this affordable would be to design the clickers yourself and get them mass produced. You can probably build a bulk 1000+ clickers @ 20 dollars or less each. Starting with a "smart remote" will be way too expensive. If you really cared, then pool a few investors and get some outsourced electronics company to build your clickers (preferably with a design you submit to them. I wouldn't trust some guy I don't know to mess up my idea). You could even set a unique id on a memory chip in the manufactured remote.
If you did do this be sure to have your ssh keys sent by something not electronic or that couldn't be searched (you know, if your mail is searched then don't get it sent that way either).
If you do that then you will always be encrypted towards your server. Then just set it up as a proxy and boom, you got a great outgoing connection.
Not meaning to "feed a troll"(towards moderators) but why does everyone around here still like apple?
They took alot of help from OSS and I don't think they particularly dislike KDE. They are a corporation and if they could they would have bought all of the code instead of using it as is.
Apple has been doing some shady business lately and I hope they never get to microsoft's size . . . it'd be very disappointing.
Reading some of the blogs on planet.mozilla.org states just that. Lots of tiny nifty features are supposedly going to be making it into 1.1 (the back/forward cache should make my 1 sec wait non-existent now!).
Does K12LTSP have any clustering options? Say using 8 of your existing (reasonably powered)computers to work for 50 dumb clients.
Its sad to have pentium 4 2.0ghz computers w/512mb ram sitting in my old high school's library running windows xp and crashing every class period (its strange when office makes the whole os crash . . . but that IT department will use "netware" until they are force to upgrade to suse when longhorn is released).
Anyhow, using those computers in a cluster with a nas configuration of some of the old hard drives would be a good recyling project for the whole network.
I am certian ms will try to just ease out a few features so that their longhorn IE will be even better. This will probably be a security update and small feature release. I can imagine some hacked on tabs b/c Longhorn needs something better.
I don't think microsoft follows the model of "Give the customer what they want."
Especially true of sp2 . . . I wish they would make a new xkdrive though. The old ones still run great but I want a minimal X with transparency effects.
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Linux executable size is larger due to visibility issues with a pre 4.0 gcc. It keeps certain symbols from being removed that should be. I still wouldn't doubt that windows would have a smaller executable though.
If I had to choose a free operating system for my financial instituion I would hope it would be openbsd which is geared at 95 percent security and 5 percent functionailty. Not 1 percent of user friendly-ness. Openbsd should be used alot more in financial institutions by people that know what they are doing. Openbsd has more security based code than any os and if you say otherwise then you have obviously never tried it. It has the ability to setup more redundancy than any OS. Openbsd isn't a desktop OS for the masses either but I guess thats your freebsd plug ;)
I know he deserves troll for cursing but the idea of pushing pollution on to the less fortunate is a far greater tradegy than some cursing. Mod grandparent a troll instead..
DOS has always been a single process OS and that seems to be very useful for a slow system. DOS is blazing fast for your text-based or simple device interface. It doesn't waste alot of time doing multi-threaded applications with the extra processing time or memory for thread-based variables. A database on dos would even be fine as long as the database set up its own thread implementation. For a POS terminal dos would only need to do one thing: recieve input and ask for output. I bet the overhead of embedded windows/linux would be fine for a decent 100mhz processor but why overkill? An ATM could run on a 286 with as little work as it actually does (you know the atm is really asking a bunch of big computers to do the work for them. (It doesn't even do the math calculations b/c that would be a security risk). I think Dos will continue to be a great OS for real simple embedded applications and hope it continues to be used for such. I bet the internal workings of space rockets still use DOS on their 386 system computers.
I believe its because of the old Apple II syndrome. It worked so well to have only one focused window back then and people were more patient too.
Well done response but it only tends to suggest that if java itself isn't coded well then a bad program can cause stack smashing. If java allows a programmer to cause a problem then its java's fault. Everything is an object and I don't believe that a java program should ever reach (or can possibly) out of the jvm's memory range. In fact it can't address memory outright at all. Its all done via relationships of objects. This will limit a java programs ability to leak memory from another program.
If java is coded well (which means that its coded well in C by good programmers) and the fact you can't grab memory absolutely or anything else except relationship-wise, then java seems pretty self contained. In fact a java program shouldn't be able to touch another java's memory(hopefully).
The only thing I think could make a java program insecure is if I C program attacks a jvm specific problem. ie. java itself wasn't coded well.
I hope you are not talking about swt or functions outside of java like windows api. You can't simply expect java to do everything under the sun(pun). On note to the grandparent, C is only more secure in that a very adept programmer can control any aspect of the program he wants to. Even still you rely on libraries many times creating even a simple program. I would bet that a java program would be more secure than a C program in that fact that C just leaves you out there. Java has security features built in whether or not you use them.
Is it april 1st already?
The only way to make something like this affordable would be to design the clickers yourself and get them mass produced. You can probably build a bulk 1000+ clickers @ 20 dollars or less each. Starting with a "smart remote" will be way too expensive. If you really cared, then pool a few investors and get some outsourced electronics company to build your clickers (preferably with a design you submit to them. I wouldn't trust some guy I don't know to mess up my idea). You could even set a unique id on a memory chip in the manufactured remote.
There is no cheap and easy way to do it.
If you did do this be sure to have your ssh keys sent by something not electronic or that couldn't be searched (you know, if your mail is searched then don't get it sent that way either).
If you do that then you will always be encrypted towards your server. Then just set it up as a proxy and boom, you got a great outgoing connection.
Not meaning to "feed a troll"(towards moderators) but why does everyone around here still like apple?
They took alot of help from OSS and I don't think they particularly dislike KDE. They are a corporation and if they could they would have bought all of the code instead of using it as is.
Apple has been doing some shady business lately and I hope they never get to microsoft's size . . . it'd be very disappointing.
Mod my parent up. I didn't know telling a compliment was redundant.
Reading some of the blogs on planet.mozilla.org states just that. Lots of tiny nifty features are supposedly going to be making it into 1.1 (the back/forward cache should make my 1 sec wait non-existent now!).
Does K12LTSP have any clustering options? Say using 8 of your existing (reasonably powered)computers to work for 50 dumb clients.
Its sad to have pentium 4 2.0ghz computers w/512mb ram sitting in my old high school's library running windows xp and crashing every class period (its strange when office makes the whole os crash . . . but that IT department will use "netware" until they are force to upgrade to suse when longhorn is released).
Anyhow, using those computers in a cluster with a nas configuration of some of the old hard drives would be a good recyling project for the whole network.
Or maybe it has something to do with the confirmed loss of their pc market to that chinese company Leveno or something.
No offense to english majors too? Arkansas . . . not arkasas.
Enough Tim-bashing for one day. My god slashdotters complain overly too much.
Khtml is a horrid html render and I agree that a gecko engine is long overdo.
There are two choices nowadays. Gecko or khtml. Sadly khtml isn't up to par.
No wait I got a better response . . . yeah and our blind luck . . . uh . . . is only passed by our uh . . . Ok, our stupidity exceeds all.
http://www.eds.com/services/casestudies/eds_instan t.aspx
EDS claims here that linux provides security unavailable elsewhere. Am I missing something?
Is columbia, sc the grocery technological center? I've been using the self-scanners here for awhile and I thought it was normal too.
haha, try and document all 400 million perl modules.
I am certian ms will try to just ease out a few features so that their longhorn IE will be even better. This will probably be a security update and small feature release. I can imagine some hacked on tabs b/c Longhorn needs something better. I don't think microsoft follows the model of "Give the customer what they want."
Especially true of sp2 . . . I wish they would make a new xkdrive though. The old ones still run great but I want a minimal X with transparency effects.