Every Linux World for the past three years has talked about this. From CA's CEO last year in Boston, to ODSL, Red Hat, SuSE, MySQL, etc. etc., the message is the same every year. Open Standards good, proprietary bad.
The problem is that we sit here and beat our drums, but someone comes along and says "when Linux is ready..."
Last I heard there were many organizations (Government, etc.) already using Linux on the desktop. I'm sure they will tell you it is ready.
2005, 2004, 2003, 2002 and 2001 were the years of the Linux Desktop. I still have my Linux Magazines to prove it. After all, it was mentioned every January or February issue...
He had been known for his Slash-dotting...they'd cheer "Slashdot Kid Slashdot Kid Slashdot Kid" and every hot chick in school would be all over him like the geek that he is!
Actually, I did read the entire thread. It is you who appears to have not read my posting.
I know they didn't discontinue Fedora, but they have no interest in supporting it other than to have a board. The Foundation was a good thing because it allowed $$ to be covered under the not for profit category, and development could continue. That isn't going to happen any more.
It's just a continuation of dumpping support for Red Hat 8 and Red Hat 9. Think I'm wrong...that's fine. I work for a company that is a significant Red Hat partner and it is crystal clear where they are going...and Fedora isn't a big part of that roadmap.
Red Hat has done it again. The fact is, this is TWICE they have said "piss-off" to the Open Source community. They need to make money, and Fedora brings them ZERO revenue. Frankly, until someone buys Red Hat (as Novell did SuSE) that has some real cash behind them, I wouldn't look for anything free from Red Hat. It just isn't good economics, and all the Fedora users in the world are not going to keep the lights on...only paying customers of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
This isn't much of a surprise. Google is a Bay area fixture, and Earthlink has a major focus on providing urban Broadband. The partnership of the two is a natural and will make SF a key example of what more metro areas need to be.
I have to admit (and this will undoubtedly get me the "TROLL" mod) that I was impressed with what I read. Let's face it, we, and a lot of other people, have beat this man about the head and shoulders for years yet he and MS seem to keep a loyal following. He and his family have donated gazillions of dollars to charity, and most of us, if we're honest, became Linux people after we started on Windows.
Do I agree with the politics of MS? NO...not in a million years. But demonizing him constantly has lost its luster for me. I do think he's fairly down to earth, given the numbers of eyes just waiting for him or MS to screw up.
Think about it...the lawyers and other talking heads at SCO have managed, for some time now, to keep this company afloat on pure BS alone, and they did it by spoofing the courts, the media, etc. Sure...Tech people saw right past it, but the fact is that they were to do a job...to keep this company alive, and they did it for a long time. This might be the death-blow for them, but hey, they did a hell of a job getting it this far.
Now...let the ship sink. Should have gone down long ago.
Saying that selling a PC without an OS is a risk to customers and their business is comical actually. Tell me how running Windows isn't a risk. OH...that's right...they already did. They said Windows is more secure. They said Windows is faster. They said Windows is more trustworthy and they said Windows cost less that Linux.
I for one think we need to thank our friends at Microsoft for keeping us safe from the evils of the mad penguin.
I've actually been very impressed with IE7. I expected it to be crap, but in fact, even the Beta hasn't been at all bad, and it's been very stable. I'll stick with Firefox though:)
Actually, I think I got stuck testing it just to piss me off.
AMEN! They have been acting like the 800 pound gorilla for far too long now, and it is time they learned that even the strongest men can be brought down by a good swift kick to the knees.
Don't get me wrong...I like Google, but the China deal and now this...I think it's time for some humbling.
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Xandros is an awesome distro, and they release great products with top quality, compliments of Ming and his engineering team.
I have used Xandros Desktop since Desktop 1.0 and will be looking forward to implementing their server product.
Every Linux World for the past three years has talked about this. From CA's CEO last year in Boston, to ODSL, Red Hat, SuSE, MySQL, etc. etc., the message is the same every year. Open Standards good, proprietary bad.
The problem is that we sit here and beat our drums, but someone comes along and says "when Linux is ready..."
Last I heard there were many organizations (Government, etc.) already using Linux on the desktop. I'm sure they will tell you it is ready.
No silly...
2005, 2004, 2003, 2002 and 2001 were the years of the Linux Desktop. I still have my Linux Magazines to prove it. After all, it was mentioned every January or February issue...
That could also be a good title for a porn flick!
He had been known for his Slash-dotting...they'd cheer "Slashdot Kid Slashdot Kid Slashdot Kid" and every hot chick in school would be all over him like the geek that he is!
Get eFax...comes to my inbox. No wasted paper, no 2:00 AM ringing fax machine.
It was probably the duct tape that was used to secure the phone to the head of the rabbit that gave it cancer.
I thought the software of space exploration was "Astroids"
OK...that's good information. I take back my posting. Thanks for the correction.
Oh...sure...ruin a good idea. (end of sarcasm). Seriously though, that is a very good point.
Actually, I did read the entire thread. It is you who appears to have not read my posting.
I know they didn't discontinue Fedora, but they have no interest in supporting it other than to have a board. The Foundation was a good thing because it allowed $$ to be covered under the not for profit category, and development could continue. That isn't going to happen any more.
It's just a continuation of dumpping support for Red Hat 8 and Red Hat 9. Think I'm wrong...that's fine. I work for a company that is a significant Red Hat partner and it is crystal clear where they are going...and Fedora isn't a big part of that roadmap.
Red Hat has done it again. The fact is, this is TWICE they have said "piss-off" to the Open Source community. They need to make money, and Fedora brings them ZERO revenue. Frankly, until someone buys Red Hat (as Novell did SuSE) that has some real cash behind them, I wouldn't look for anything free from Red Hat. It just isn't good economics, and all the Fedora users in the world are not going to keep the lights on...only paying customers of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
This isn't much of a surprise. Google is a Bay area fixture, and Earthlink has a major focus on providing urban Broadband. The partnership of the two is a natural and will make SF a key example of what more metro areas need to be.
I have to admit (and this will undoubtedly get me the "TROLL" mod) that I was impressed with what I read. Let's face it, we, and a lot of other people, have beat this man about the head and shoulders for years yet he and MS seem to keep a loyal following. He and his family have donated gazillions of dollars to charity, and most of us, if we're honest, became Linux people after we started on Windows.
Do I agree with the politics of MS? NO...not in a million years. But demonizing him constantly has lost its luster for me. I do think he's fairly down to earth, given the numbers of eyes just waiting for him or MS to screw up.
Now...back to my Firefiox and StarOffice...
Think about it...the lawyers and other talking heads at SCO have managed, for some time now, to keep this company afloat on pure BS alone, and they did it by spoofing the courts, the media, etc. Sure...Tech people saw right past it, but the fact is that they were to do a job...to keep this company alive, and they did it for a long time. This might be the death-blow for them, but hey, they did a hell of a job getting it this far.
Now...let the ship sink. Should have gone down long ago.
Saying that selling a PC without an OS is a risk to customers and their business is comical actually. Tell me how running Windows isn't a risk. OH...that's right...they already did. They said Windows is more secure. They said Windows is faster. They said Windows is more trustworthy and they said Windows cost less that Linux. I for one think we need to thank our friends at Microsoft for keeping us safe from the evils of the mad penguin.
They must be using Time Warner / BrightHouse Networks for their ISP. Note to NASA...Check out Verizon FIOS.
(sarcasm)
You think they would actually LIE to us? Shocked I am. SHOCKED!
Without cubes, we never would have been given Dilbert, Office Space or User Friendly. Cubes aint all that bad!
I always knew that too much Leisure Suit Larry would come back to haunt me!
Point well taken.
I have been using a Mac iBook for some time with 10.4 , and LOVED it until I had to rebuilt it. Now, it's as unstable as Charles Mason on crack.
I've actually been very impressed with IE7. I expected it to be crap, but in fact, even the Beta hasn't been at all bad, and it's been very stable. I'll stick with Firefox though :)
Actually, I think I got stuck testing it just to piss me off.
I have been forced to test IE 7 for my company, and the fact that Firefox 2 will have this will give us no reason to use IE 7.
AMEN! They have been acting like the 800 pound gorilla for far too long now, and it is time they learned that even the strongest men can be brought down by a good swift kick to the knees.
Don't get me wrong...I like Google, but the China deal and now this...I think it's time for some humbling.