I'll pay for three and donate two any day of the week. I'm not rolling in cash mind you, but if I can help by providing something for those that can't afford it, then I think that is my responsibility, especially if I espouse the Free Software ideal.
Dell, HP, Toshiba, etc. etc. STILL package Windows with every new PC that leaves the shop. I have seen no indication that they plan on changing that any time soon. Sure...Dell might say he likes Ubuntu, but I'll believe it when the first Dell ships with Ubuntu and a Ubuntu sticker on the front where the Windows sticker used to be...you know "This PC specifically designed for Ubuntu Linux."
I don't know too many people that are going to go out and buy a while-box PC (other than geeks) and load Linux, when for about $400.00 you can get a fully rigged-out Dell with Windows and all the goodies.
Like life, creative people will find a way. Some of the most brilliant and creative people I have ever met are Open Source people who, against the odds, have successfully taken on the giants and done so well. Red Hat, MySQL, Firefox...just to name a few. Talking about new and creative products, one only need look to SPLUNK.
The only people who see innovation as dead are those who don't thin it is possible to create. I'm not creative...I'll admit that. But I don't think everyone will throw in the towel, and I think some of the best is yet to come...from the Open Source community.
With all the regs out there now about privacy (Sarbanes, etc.) I'm betting that is what this is about, in addition to most companies using HR systems to do their work. Paper apps would take time to enter, and that costs money.
Others on the list agreeing with the posting. This is a problem I have heard over and over and over again from people who tried Linux, but when they went to their local LUG they were told to RTFM and to google it before asking questions (oh...and mention that you are trying to find the answer in Google usually fends off another flame from someone.
I sat nex to a woman on the plane the other day who had tried to get Linux running (she was successful in getting it installed but she wanted to get Apache up and running (I know...a simple task) and get a streaming media server going for her music and movies. After much grief from the LUG she said "Screw Linux" and bought W2K3 Standard server, two clicks of a mouse later she has a streaming media server.
I switched from Linux to Mac at home because, well, Mac just works...and it works well. At my office I no longer use Linux...I use Windows XP because it is the corporate standard...and I don't have much of a choice. The funny thing is, we were on the verge of switching to a Linux desktop in myu department (development) but when the GIS desktop management people got hooked up with their local lugs and were greeted with the same love described by the article and by a few people here, they said "at least Microsft does't tell me to read the fine manual or talk down to me like I'm an idiot. I had my fair share of run-ins with the snobs referred to here, and to be sure, MANY that I know are not snobs and in fact are more than willing to help because they want others to learn and see the value in Linux.
Frankly, I'm over the Linux thing (but I can't change my login name to MacBoyDave). I've been a Linux guy since 1997 and since I boought my first Mac, I've bought two more. I still use Firefox and Thunderbird, To be sure though, I'll never recommend Linux as a desktop to anyone again. I said it at a LUG meeting (and was told to leave) and I'll say it again (and earn the troll mod, I'm sure)...Linux people are their own worst enemy.
He has been quoted as saying that if the best tool for the job costs money, then he is going to buy it. True...if you go by the FSF way of doing things, then you can't have the drivers. However, it goes back to the "best tool for the job" argument. I need to make Linux work...period. If nobody is going to produce a driver that works and the company isn't going to open the driver, yet they provide it for free, I'm going to use it.
Hey...as so many of you point out, Evolution is a fact, so we'll just evolve. If golbal warming is happening and all the crops die, the polar ice caps melt putting my city under water and the sun rises is the west, I expect we'll learn to grow gills and webbed feet, eat sand...and be happy.
I'm gonna throw a sand-tasting party later if anyone wants to come...
It seems to me that for someone to be concerned about shielding his children, etc. and that people who find out won't let their kds play with his because they don't like his business, and this bothers him, perhaps he should find another line of work.
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We here in Slashdot land are not known to like "shiny, pretty" things...we like functional. However, the vast majority on computer users like pretty guis, etc. that they can click click click and be done. Google is a great search engine, and they have some great technology. However, until Google decides to make it's portal functional for the masses as YAHOO does, I don't think Google will be all things to all people. It will remain all things to all geeks. YAHOO will remain all things to all people.
I don't mean to sound like a troll here...I am asking because I just don't know. I have used Ubuntu and I didn't like it. Xandros...I like that. Debian...my primary Desktop. Ubuntu...I just don't see what has people so excited about it. Can someone help me see what I am missing here. If it is better, help me see the light.
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Hi Saddam,
I'm sorry we caught you and you'll be a pinata soon enough. At least they gave you Internet access in the PMITA prison.
Oh...almost forgot...
Fuck you too.
Since I commented in this I can't mod, but THAT is funny! Perhaps they can get the robots to at least talk in a hot, Jessica Alba voice.
As a Disabled American Veteran and member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, let me say Thank You! This technology is long over-due.
RMS comes out against a for-profit company that manufactures proprietary software. Nothing new here...move along.
I'll pay for three and donate two any day of the week. I'm not rolling in cash mind you, but if I can help by providing something for those that can't afford it, then I think that is my responsibility, especially if I espouse the Free Software ideal.
I once borrowed a copy of Windows 98. I suddenly feel just like Bin Laden. Oh the HUMANITY!
Dell, HP, Toshiba, etc. etc. STILL package Windows with every new PC that leaves the shop. I have seen no indication that they plan on changing that any time soon. Sure...Dell might say he likes Ubuntu, but I'll believe it when the first Dell ships with Ubuntu and a Ubuntu sticker on the front where the Windows sticker used to be...you know "This PC specifically designed for Ubuntu Linux."
I don't know too many people that are going to go out and buy a while-box PC (other than geeks) and load Linux, when for about $400.00 you can get a fully rigged-out Dell with Windows and all the goodies.
Like life, creative people will find a way. Some of the most brilliant and creative people I have ever met are Open Source people who, against the odds, have successfully taken on the giants and done so well. Red Hat, MySQL, Firefox...just to name a few. Talking about new and creative products, one only need look to SPLUNK.
The only people who see innovation as dead are those who don't thin it is possible to create. I'm not creative...I'll admit that. But I don't think everyone will throw in the towel, and I think some of the best is yet to come...from the Open Source community.
Don't most slashdot reader work there?
I'M KIDDING!!!
Hey...I thought it was funny.
With all the regs out there now about privacy (Sarbanes, etc.) I'm betting that is what this is about, in addition to most companies using HR systems to do their work. Paper apps would take time to enter, and that costs money.
"There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, General Electric, and Exxon"
Hey...don't forget Hooters!
From: Larry Ellison
To: IBM
SUBJ: Your note to us about Open Source
Dear IBM,
Piss off. I have two Mig jets and a really big-ass boat. I can buy anything I want.
Oraclistically Yours,
Larry
Others on the list agreeing with the posting. This is a problem I have heard over and over and over again from people who tried Linux, but when they went to their local LUG they were told to RTFM and to google it before asking questions (oh...and mention that you are trying to find the answer in Google usually fends off another flame from someone.
I sat nex to a woman on the plane the other day who had tried to get Linux running (she was successful in getting it installed but she wanted to get Apache up and running (I know...a simple task) and get a streaming media server going for her music and movies. After much grief from the LUG she said "Screw Linux" and bought W2K3 Standard server, two clicks of a mouse later she has a streaming media server.
I switched from Linux to Mac at home because, well, Mac just works...and it works well. At my office I no longer use Linux...I use Windows XP because it is the corporate standard...and I don't have much of a choice. The funny thing is, we were on the verge of switching to a Linux desktop in myu department (development) but when the GIS desktop management people got hooked up with their local lugs and were greeted with the same love described by the article and by a few people here, they said "at least Microsft does't tell me to read the fine manual or talk down to me like I'm an idiot. I had my fair share of run-ins with the snobs referred to here, and to be sure, MANY that I know are not snobs and in fact are more than willing to help because they want others to learn and see the value in Linux.
Frankly, I'm over the Linux thing (but I can't change my login name to MacBoyDave). I've been a Linux guy since 1997 and since I boought my first Mac, I've bought two more. I still use Firefox and Thunderbird, To be sure though, I'll never recommend Linux as a desktop to anyone again. I said it at a LUG meeting (and was told to leave) and I'll say it again (and earn the troll mod, I'm sure)...Linux people are their own worst enemy.
Dvorak is still an ass. He's so anti-anything being opened, I wonder where his real agenda is?
Thank you. I was wondering that same thing.
It might perform well now, but how long will it last under a load? Will something happen over time that they do not forsee?
Intel makes great stuff, but I think it is far too early to say it is the best chip ever...give it a few months in production and let the user decide.
He has been quoted as saying that if the best tool for the job costs money, then he is going to buy it. True...if you go by the FSF way of doing things, then you can't have the drivers. However, it goes back to the "best tool for the job" argument. I need to make Linux work...period. If nobody is going to produce a driver that works and the company isn't going to open the driver, yet they provide it for free, I'm going to use it.
I'm just wondering how many customers he'll be getting after this article pops up a few places.
Hey...as so many of you point out, Evolution is a fact, so we'll just evolve. If golbal warming is happening and all the crops die, the polar ice caps melt putting my city under water and the sun rises is the west, I expect we'll learn to grow gills and webbed feet, eat sand...and be happy.
I'm gonna throw a sand-tasting party later if anyone wants to come...
I sit right next to her...a cross between Milton (office space) and Richard Stallman. Enough to convince me.
It seems to me that for someone to be concerned about shielding his children, etc. and that people who find out won't let their kds play with his because they don't like his business, and this bothers him, perhaps he should find another line of work.
We here in Slashdot land are not known to like "shiny, pretty" things...we like functional. However, the vast majority on computer users like pretty guis, etc. that they can click click click and be done. Google is a great search engine, and they have some great technology. However, until Google decides to make it's portal functional for the masses as YAHOO does, I don't think Google will be all things to all people. It will remain all things to all geeks. YAHOO will remain all things to all people.
I don't mean to sound like a troll here...I am asking because I just don't know. I have used Ubuntu and I didn't like it. Xandros...I like that. Debian...my primary Desktop. Ubuntu...I just don't see what has people so excited about it. Can someone help me see what I am missing here. If it is better, help me see the light.
I can see how you could put that statement to Stallman...